Wednesday, March 24 1999 Volume 03 : Number 495
In this issue:
DML: car for sale
Re: [DML: VIN # list?]
DML: Another D For Sale
Re: DML: carpet cleaner?
DML: QAC in NJ
Re: DML: DeLorean World issues ???
DML: NJ owners
DML: Re: carpet cleaner?
DML: Specialty automotive???
Re: DML: DeLorean in News
DML: Camellia Classic Car Show April 3, 1999 - UPDATE #3
DML: fuel problem, poor acceleration
DML: another delorean needs a good home
DML: June Show in Ponchatoula
DML: British Car show May 1st
DML: Re: Specialty automotive???
DML: Fuel Filter and Distributor location
DML: High pressure/volume oil pump
Re: DML: Specialty automotive???
DML: Can't get it above 65 in Ohio
DML: New D-Club in Europe
DML: Re: fuel problem, poor acceleration
Re: DML: fuel problem, poor acceleration
Re: DML: fuel problem, poor acceleration
DML: Re: Classifieds wasteland...
DML: RE: Illusion of Stainless Delorean
Re: DML: fuel problem, poor acceleration
Re: DML: fuel problem, poor acceleration
DML: illuminated key on EBAY ?
Re: DML: DeLorean World issues ???
DML: Townsend show
DML: Re: Fuel Filter and Distributor location
DML: Re: Re: Specialty automotive???
DML: DMC: Insurance
DML: patients please
DML: no subject
DML: Engine Bay Latch
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 11:15:10 +0000 From: "darryl@techline.com" <darryl@techline.com> Subject: DML: car for sale
Since the classified ads haven't been updated since January, I reluctantly need to use the DML to help a desparate friend try to sell his car. It is a 1981 gray interior 5 speed, VIN 5999, with 45,000 miles. It is not currently running, due to an apparent lack of spark. He is asking $10,000 and can be contacted by calling Lowell at 360-538-7491.
Also, in my ad for issues of Special Interest Autos with the DeLorean on the cover, the price should have been $5.95 plus $2 postage. I tried to change that ad too, but no response. James, what's the story?
Darryl Tinnerstet McCleary, WA
[ADMIN NOTE: With Dave Price no longer able to keep the site updated, it has been one of the things that has fallen by the wayside. I hope to have the situation remediedby the end of the month. JVE]
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Date: 19 Mar 99 11:34:41 PST From: KIRK BRANDON <delorean02378@netscape.net> Subject: Re: [DML: VIN # list?]
"Marc Barth" <d16y8@hotmail.com> wrote: Has anyone tried to gather info on all of the vins out there? Listing =
them in order and where the car currently resides whether by an owner in =
a certain state or country, museum, or wrecked? Just curious. I think =
it would be an interesting internet project for those who have Delorean =
pages.
Marc d16y8@hotmail.com
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Marc, Yes, as a matter of fact there is a listing that shows the vin# Owner, St= ate, interior color and trans type. Go to WWW.DMCNEWS.COM/CHRONOLOGY.HTML. Jam= es is kind enough to provide this list for us to check out and learn when our D= 's were built. Unfortunately it has not been updated since October 1, so I'm= sure there are a lot more D's that have been added to the list. Also DMCJOE is planning to find out how many D'd are left. Go check out h= is web site at deloreanservices.com. Hope this helps.
Kirk Vin#02378 Send postings to "dmcnews@world.std.com" Before posting, search the archives! www.dmcnews.com/search.html Thank you!
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 12:13:45 PST From: "jack knife" <knife_jack@hotmail.com> Subject: DML: Another D For Sale
Sorry to be posting this 'for sale' message this way, but I am still yet to see my car being posted on the web site.
For sale is an early 1981 (May, vin:1328) DeLorean. Five speed, black interior, gray wheels. New engine from DMC in Houston (less 7k miles), new front end. Other recall updates performed. Call 256.536.7883 for more info or return e-mail to: knife_jack@hotmail.com 11,500k
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 15:30:52 EST From: DMC3309@aol.com Subject: Re: DML: carpet cleaner?
I cleaned my grey carpet with just any carpet cleaner found at the Automotive store designed for auto interiors. I worked just fine. And did not fade
Robert VIN3309
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 16:45:32 EST From: LovDMC12@aol.com Subject: DML: QAC in NJ
The QAC was in Bridgewater, NJ. It is mentioned in several other books concerning the history of DMC, among them are William Haddad's "Hard Driving," Levin's "Grand Delusions," and Fallon's "Dream Maker." Several mention the fact that the QAC was very close to DeLorean's home in Bedminster, NJ.
Brian Henson VIN 1597
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 19:10:59 EST From: DeLorean31@aol.com Subject: Re: DML: DeLorean World issues ???
In a message dated 3/19/99 1:23:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, mikeatk@concentric.net writes:
<< Hopefully by this summer I'll be able to purchase P.J. Grady's lock and window zilla upgrade kits for our DeLorean. >>
I too am thinking of purcahsing these two kits this summer. I just ordred Fanzilla. I was searching the archives and I saw mention of Fanzilla. I also a posting asking anyone who had installed Fanzilla in their car to comment on it. I couldnt find any actual comments about it though. It seems like it is a fine product and I look forward to intalling it. If anyone out there has it can they please tell us their opinions on it? If their was comments previously let me know but as I said I wasnt able to find actual replys. Thanks in advance
Gary VIN 3360
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 20:03:37 -0500 From: "DOUG T VENNER" <DMC12@prodigy.net> Subject: DML: NJ owners
I notice that a lot of members of this list are from NJ. I would really = like to get us NJ owners all together this spring/summer, at a event, or = just all of us getting together for dinner and the such. A few of us are = going to Raceway Parks swap meet on April 18th in Old Bridge NJ. Please = contact me if you would like to join us. Also don't forget the DeLorean = Mid-Atlantic door adjustment day on April 25th.=20 Doug Venner Browns Mills NJ #16680 DMC12@prodigy.net
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 19:19:48 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: carpet cleaner?
Darren, Any carpet cleaner will do the job. "Resolve" will do a good general cleaning job. For imbedded stains we use a solution of "Westleys Bleach White" diluted to a one to one mix with water. If you want to leave the carpet with a fresh clean "like new" smell use "Odor-X" by Turtle Wax.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
- ---------- > From: Iznodmad@aol.com > To: dmcnews@world.std.com > Subject: DML: carpet cleaner? > Date: Friday, March 19, 1999 12:27 PM > > Dear DML, > My carpets need a good cleaning. I was just wondering if anyone out > there has found a good carpet cleaner that works well and won't fade the > fabric. Just in case it matters, I have the grey interior. > > Thank you, > Darren Decker > #5000
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 21:11:15 -0500 From: Gerald Deutsch <Jerry1@eclipse.net> Subject: DML: Specialty automotive???
Can someone please give me an e-mail or phone number to reach Darryl at Specialty Automotive? Thanks in advance. ---Dan
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 11:16:45 EST From: OZZMAN283@aol.com Subject: Re: DML: DeLorean in News
Does the Colorado Historical Society have a web page?
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 11:41:00 -0600 From: scottmueller@zebra.net (Scott Mueller) Subject: DML: Camellia Classic Car Show April 3, 1999 - UPDATE #3
April 3, 1999 is rapidly approaching.
The Camellia Classic Car Show at Bellingrath Gardens in Mobile Alabama is a show you do not want to miss.
We have three owners who have pre-registered for the show, and two other owners who have verbally committed. Check out my web page for the particulars.
http://www.zebra.net/~scottmueller/Web%20Page/CamilliaClassic.htm
The show organizer will create a class for DeLoreans if there are four cars pre-registered. The photo ops are fantastic. When we know who is coming, I will plan a time and place that we can meet so we can caravan in and park together.
Bring your family, the gardens are wonderful and last year there was lots of activities for the kids.
If you would like me to fax the entry form to you, email me directly with your name and phone/fax numbers.
This was a great show last year and I am looking forward to participating again.
Scott Mueller ScottMueller@zebra.net 1981/002981 DOA5031/DMCNEWS Deep South Delorean Owners Future Events Page http://www.zebra.net/~scottmueller/Web%20Page/CamilliaClassic.htm April 3, 1999 Mobile, AL Camillia Classic April 17, 1999 Pensacola, FL Beach Bash and All British Car Show May 2, 1999 Townsend, TN Blount British Car Gathering May 21-23, 1999, DeLorean Eastern Regional Run 9, hosted by DeLoreans of New England
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 13:35:07 -0500 From: cooney@pathway.net Subject: DML: fuel problem, poor acceleration
Purchased an '81 D, this winter. Had it trucked north from the Carolinas. Beginning to see why the former owner of this "excellent condition" car pushed for me to have it trucked. The archives haven't produced an answer.
The fuel pump seems to work when it wants to. There have been days when I drove with no problem. There have been trailered home days. At times it will start, idle for several minutes then quit. Sometimes it will then restart, sometimes it will not. Sometimes it will restart days later. Today it ran for five minutes, quit, restart for one second then die. After several attempts it will now not restart at all.
Warren in Texas has worked with me to find a solution but as yet, it's not fixed. So far, I have replaced the fuel pump relay. The pump had been running when straight wired with the relay out, but at this writing it does not. The fuses are fine. The coil has spark. Juice flows to the fuel pump. The inertia switch has been by-passed. The fuel pump was replaced three years ago. Am I missing something? Suggestions?
Secondly, this car won't beat a bicycle. Except for a few times before the transport picked it up, the former owner did not drive it much and had it in a dealer friend's showroom for quite a long while. RPM's will shoot up when accelerated in neutral, but 65 mph is the limit when driving. I checked the automatic transmission computer with the test light method recently described. All systems go there. D. One suggested just running the heck out of it due to possible varnish buildup. No luck so far. Suggestions?
Lastly, does anyone know of a good shop in W. Pa. or E. Ohio? I am in Grove City, Pa, midway between Erie and Pgh, east of Youngstown. Sorry for such a long post but I'd hate for this to be a trailer car. Other than these problems it really is in excellent condition with all updates done at D1. (under 30,000 miles)
Thanks much, Mike #2467
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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 06:15:18 EST From: WtrResQ@aol.com Subject: DML: another delorean needs a good home
1981 vin SCEDT26T3BD003160, is for sale inWalnut Creek CA. it has 37K miles and has no upgrades. she is on consignment at Grand Prix Motors and the asking price was $16,500, although i have it on a good source that the owner will take $15K. the original owner of the car took, OK care of the car. will need TLC...
contact Augusts Juris at 925-274-0713
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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 15:36:19 -0600 From: Steve Rice <stevedmc@juno.com> Subject: DML: June Show in Ponchatoula
I am not exactly up to the idea of this but here goes.
I talked to the lady about Strawberry Festival and she is very interested about doing it with the D's next year. SHe mentioned a show in June that she would like to invite you guys out to.
Here are the details as of today,
June 25th, 1999- (Time not known)Ribbon cutting ceremony with Governor Mike Foster 4pm- Street dance to be held. I am guessing that the street dance will include some sort of parade.
June 26&27 will be all day events. I do not know what the exact plans are. The name of the festival is to be something like "Antique City of America".
The woman I talked to told me she might be able to arrange some sort of car show. I told her I would let my friends on the DML know about the event and I would get back with her at the end of the week.
I'm not to sure about this event but many of you may feel differently. Please contact me direct at SteveDMC@hotmail.com and we can talk about it.
She told me that this will hopefully be the start of an anual even and she needs something like the D to promote it. Maybe we can help.
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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 22:27:40 EST From: ABatt10347@aol.com Subject: DML: British Car show May 1st
Fellow DMCer's, I posted this show a few months ago but just wanted to remind anyone interested that the Blount British Car club was having it annual car show the first weekend in May ( last year 150+ cars). We are trying to get a class for Deloreans. If you are interested please contact me at ABatt10347@aol.com. I'm not a member of this club just really enjoy the show each year. The show will be in Townsend, TN ( just outside of Knoxville). All money raised goes to the Blount County Home for Children. So come to east TN and have a weekend to remember! Bruce Battles Vin# 6569
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Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 22:12:19 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Specialty automotive???
Gerald, The phone number for Specialty is 360 943-2497.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
- ---------- > From: Gerald Deutsch <Jerry1@eclipse.net> > To: 'dmcnews@world.std.com' > Subject: DML: Specialty automotive??? > Date: Friday, March 19, 1999 9:11 PM > > Can someone please give me an e-mail or phone number to reach Darryl at > Specialty Automotive? Thanks in advance. ---Dan >
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Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 22:59:07 -0500 From: "yugoman" <mdrig@email.msn.com> Subject: DML: Fuel Filter and Distributor location
A man was looking at a car I have for sale yesterday, and seeing the Delorean in the driveway started asking a few questions about it. I showed him how it runs, starting out fairly smooth but getting rough after a while. He suggested first thing to change the fuel filter, then maybe the distributor cap nad wires. Problem is I don't know where any of these items are! Ok, it's my stupid question of the week!
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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 14:57:51 -0600 From: "Duke" <at88mph@mobis.com> Subject: DML: High pressure/volume oil pump
Has anyone ever installed a high pressure/high volume oil pump in their = 'D? =20
Thanks,
Duke
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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 08:59:20 -0800 From: Mike Hirko <wawazat1@aone.com> Subject: Re: DML: Specialty automotive???
Gerald Deutsch wrote: > > Can someone please give me an e-mail or phone number to reach Darryl at > Specialty Automotive? Thanks in advance. ---Dan Gerald It's darryl@techline.com
Mike Hirko Kelso WA
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Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 19:43:59 -0500 From: "." <jdl@interax.com> Subject: DML: Can't get it above 65 in Ohio
Had a similar problem with my D when I bought it, couldn't accelerate = above about 67. Turns out it was a major vacuum leak. You might want = to pressure test it, take a scope to the car and see what is going on. = There are a few good places you can take the car here in Cleveland or = even better, in Columbus. E-mail me directly for more info.
David Levey Cleveland =20
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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 20:55:52 +0100 From: Perotti <perotti@wxs.nl> Subject: DML: New D-Club in Europe
A New DeLorean Club in Europe!!
The DeLorean Club Netherlands was formed on March 12 1999 by Mario Perotti, Ed Uding and Roland van Vliet to promote the DeLorean and provide backup to Dutch Owners for technical help. The club offers membership not only to owners, but to club "associates" and to enthusiasts from The Netherlands and Europe. Members enjoy a yearly event and a quarterly newsletter. Ofcourse our club is also 'on-line' at: http://home.wxs.nl/~perotti/dcn/
Regards, Mario Perotti President DeLorean Club Netherlands VIN #10117
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Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 22:16:49 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: fuel problem, poor acceleration
Mike, Thanks for the details on your troubleshooting process. It make our job much easier. To save a lot of time let me ask you a couple of questions.
Question: When the car stops running or does not re start do you know for sure that the pump is actually running. If not, either listen for it or put a test light on it.
When we have a "D" with the same intermittent problem we hook a test light with long leads to the pump terminals and tape the test light to the windshield. If the light goes out while the engine is running the problem is isolated to the circuit between the relay and the pump. If the light stays on the problem is in the pump or pump fuel supply.
The problem with your poor acceleration is probably in the fuel enrichment circuit. After we get the engine running non-stop we will show you how to correct the enrichment problem.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 07:59:30 -0500 From: Marc A Levy <malevy@dnrc.bell-labs.com> Subject: Re: DML: fuel problem, poor acceleration
You changed the relay, so I assume you cleaned up all of the contacts. You may also want to change the fuses (even if they are good.. the blades tarnish with time).
Also, remove the pump, make sure there is no gunk in the tank, and the hoses in the tank are in good shape.
Your not that far from PJ Grady. There may be someplace in Ohio that is closer, but I dont know.
cooney@pathway.net wrote: <SNIP> > The fuel pump seems to work when it wants to. There have been days when > I drove with no problem. There have been trailered home days. At times <SNIP> > > Lastly, does anyone know of a good shop in W. Pa. or E. Ohio? I am in > Grove City, Pa, midway between Erie and Pgh, east of Youngstown. Sorry > for such a long post but I'd hate for this to be a trailer car. Other > than these problems it really is in excellent condition with all updates > done at D1. (under 30,000 miles)
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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 From: Mike Substelny <msubstel@lorainccc.edu> Subject: Re: DML: fuel problem, poor acceleration
Mike (Cooney?) said:
> The fuel pump seems to work when it wants to. There > have been days when I drove with no problem. There > have been trailered home days. At times it will start, idle > for several minutes then quit. Sometimes it will then restart, > sometimes it will not.
When I first acquired my car it did the same thing. I could always start it if I fiddled with it long enough; I never needed top trailer it home. I assumed the problem was poor electrical contact somewhere in the system, so I would jiggle all the relays and unplug - replug the fuel pump connection a few times and eventually the fuel pump would start.
One day while working on a different problem (bad start inhibit module) I removed all my relays, opened them up, and gave them a good cleaning. Five years and many thousands of miles later my fuel pump has never had another problem.
> Lastly, does anyone know of a good shop in W. Pa. or E. Ohio? I am in > Grove City, Pa, midway between Erie and Pgh, east of Youngstown.
For certain specific problems I know several good mechanics in the Cleveland area. For *any* possible DeLorean probelm you can go to Dave Bauerle near Columbus or DeLorean Cadillac here in Cleveland.
Too bad you didn't have this car last October. The DeLorean Club of Ohio's 1998 Fall tour was a drive from Sharon, PA to Cambridge Springs, PA, where we spent the night at the Riverside Inn . . . right in your neck of the woods!
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 18:01:31 -0800 From: "Dave Price" <davep2@clipper.net> Subject: DML: Re: Classifieds wasteland...
> >[ADMIN NOTE: With Dave Price no longer able to keep the site updated, it >has been one of the things that has fallen by the wayside. I hope to have >the situation remediedby the end of the month. JVE] >
Dear DML,
Please accept my most heartfelt apologies for neglecting the DMCNews Classifieds website. I ran into a few bumps in the road of life over the holiday season and failed to maintain the pages. I have updated the DMC For Sale page with postings received in March, all others have been purged. Please re-send your posting if you don't see it listed. I am more than happy to continue updating the site if you'll let me. Again, I am very sorry.
Thank you,
- - Dave
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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 00:04:23 -0800 From: "Brian J McCool" <brian.mccool@gte.net> Subject: DML: RE: Illusion of Stainless Delorean
Michael, the reason there were so many unsold Deloreans at the end of = DMC was directly related to 2 factors.=20 1. John Delorean doubled production of Deloreans in November of 1981 to = 80 cars a day, instead of building cars to dealer orders. This caused = cars to start stacking up in the distribution network that the market = couldn't absorb. John's reasoning behind this decision was that he only = had a certain amount of time to start paying off the loans from the = British government, as I understand. Sales in the summer of 1981, when = the car was introduced, went very well.=20 2. Historically speaking, winter is the worst time for auto = sales,especially sports cars. The winter of 1981 was especially bad, in = fact I read somewhere that the auto industry as a whole suffered its = worst selling season since the depression that winter.
Ultimately, John did over estimate the market for the DMC-12, but this = didn't have as much to do with the car, as it did with the fact that = every segment of the auto market can only absorb a certain amount of = cars produced. The fact that John even got the car into production in = the time frame he did was a miracle. Most first time buyers were willing = to overlook its initial quality problems. All new cars, by the way, have = some quality problems when they are first introduced, its just that = established automakers have deep pockets to fix them, John was doing the = best that he could in the time frame he was given. He had ,as most = mailing list members know, a plan to add a turbo option and a sedan, but = unfortunatly, time ran out for his company before this could happen. One = last thing concerning performance, John had already picked the engine = for his car because of its price, performance and its reliability. When = Lotus was picked to do the engineering work for his car, they added a = steel backbone or spider to the cars roof to support the weight of the = gullwing doors. Unfortunatly, this added about 500-600lbs to the car, = which caused its performance to suffer. Honestly though, would you = rather have gullwing doors or a couple extra MPH? Hope this addresses = all your questions, Michael.
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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 14:08:02 -0800 From: Mike Hirko <wawazat1@aone.com> Subject: Re: DML: fuel problem, poor acceleration
cooney@pathway.net wrote: > Beginning to see why the former owner of this "excellent > condition" car pushed for me to have it trucked. The archives haven't > produced an answer.
> Lastly, does anyone know of a good shop in W. Pa. or E. Ohio? I am in > Grove City, Pa, midway between Erie and Pgh, east of Youngstown.
P.J.Grady is your answer. If $$ are a problem, talk to them. I'll bet a way can be found to solve your problem & budget. From personal experience ( & I usually do all my own work on other vehicles) a dedicated D repair business will do a quality job & save you many $$ in the long run. Since I am on the left coast, Don Steger at DeLorean Motor Center in Garden Grove CA has done wonders for my D. Oops, I forgot Bauerle in Radnor, Ohio (740 595-3348), may be closer to you. Don't keep messing around trying to self-solve the problem. After the car is running perfectly, then learn as much about it as you can & keep on top of any problems that occur. In the meantime, let an expert put it right. Mike Hirko Kelso WA
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Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 23:49:25 -0500 From: Paul Gress <pgress@pb.net> Subject: Re: DML: fuel problem, poor acceleration
The only thing in my experience that may help you, is when I bought my Delorean new in 82. While driving for 3,000 I had no problems, then it just died. It wouldn't start. I got it towed home and the next morning it ran fine. Then next day it was dead. It was diagnosed as a loose connection where the wire harness (connector) goes through the firewall. It appeared that a pin in the connector was pulled back enough to make a connection on and off. All that was done to fix it was to re-insert the pin fully into the connector.
In other words, start looking at all electrical connection in the engine bay area. Maybe on is corroded, loose or just pulled back.
Paul Gress
cooney@pathway.net wrote:
> Purchased an '81 D, this winter. Had it trucked north from the > Carolinas. Beginning to see why the former owner of this "excellent > condition" car pushed for me to have it trucked. The archives haven't > produced an answer. > > The fuel pump seems to work when it wants to. There have been days when > I drove with no problem. There have been trailered home days. At times > it will start, idle for several minutes then quit. Sometimes it will > then restart, sometimes it will not. Sometimes it will restart days > later. Today it ran for five minutes, quit, restart for one second then > die. After several attempts it will now not restart at all. > > Warren in Texas has worked with me to find a solution but as yet, it's > not fixed. So far, I have replaced the fuel pump relay. The pump had > been running when straight wired with the relay out, but at this writing > it does not. The fuses are fine. The coil has spark. Juice flows to the > fuel pump. The inertia switch has been by-passed. The fuel pump was > replaced three years ago. Am I missing something? Suggestions? > > Secondly, this car won't beat a bicycle. Except for a few times before > the transport picked it up, the former owner did not drive it much and > had it in a dealer friend's showroom for quite a long while. RPM's will > shoot up when accelerated in neutral, but 65 mph is the limit when > driving. I checked the automatic transmission computer with the test > light method recently described. All systems go there. D. One suggested > just running the heck out of it due to possible varnish buildup. No luck > so far. Suggestions? > > Lastly, does anyone know of a good shop in W. Pa. or E. Ohio? I am in > Grove City, Pa, midway between Erie and Pgh, east of Youngstown. Sorry > for such a long post but I'd hate for this to be a trailer car. Other > than these problems it really is in excellent condition with all updates > done at D1. (under 30,000 miles) > > Thanks much, > Mike > #2467
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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 99 19:02:24 PST From: "Brandon S. Moody" <bsmoody@kih.net> Subject: DML: illuminated key on EBAY ?
There is a DMC illuminated key for sale on Ebay, item 79671609 . There is a picture of the key on the auction page and I have also placed the picture on my WWW site www.geocities.com/motorcity/downs/7872 Does anyone have this key with their car ? I have never saw THIS VERSION of the illuminated key. Its nothing like the illuminated key that came with my car. It just made me curious ?
- -Brandon bsmoody@kih.net
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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 18:42:22 -0600 From: scottmueller@zebra.net (Scott Mueller) Subject: Re: DML: DeLorean World issues ???
I installed FANZILLA last year while at the DeLorean Expo in Los Angeles. It works as advertised. The fans come on one at a time and shut off one at a time. The unit looks professionally made and was easy to install. The documentation that came with it was complete.
Scott Mueller ScottMueller@zebra.net 1981/002981 DOA5031/DMCNEWS Deep South Delorean Owners Future Events Page http://www.zebra.net/~scottmueller/Web%20Page/CamilliaClassic.htm April 3, 1999 Mobile, AL Camillia Classic April 17, 1999 Pensacola, FL Beach Bash and All British Car Show May 2, 1999 Townsend, TN Blount British Car Gathering May 21-23, 1999, DeLorean Eastern Regional Run 9, hosted by DeLoreans of New England
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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 21:05:50 EST From: ABatt10347@aol.com Subject: DML: Townsend show
I have recieved a lot of mail asking for details about the Townsend, TN show. So if James will allow I give the details for all. The show is May 1, 1999. ( yes the Blount County web site still lists last years show). The cost is $15.00 for pre-registered cars (thru april 10th) $ 20.00 day of show. All the proceeds go to the Blount County Childrens Home. The hotels in the area do give a discount rate for the show. Main staging area is the Best Western Inn. Dash plaques to the first 150 cars. There are three awards in each class. Door prizes thoughout the show. A short drive after the show. Last year about 75+ cars went on the drive. Picture 75+ British cars screaming around the ridges of the Smokie Mountains. After the drive there is a BBQ back at the Best Western. Cost $10.00. I almost forgot to mention Friday night. There is a gathering at the motel to meet each other and get a chance to admire, sit in and ride in about every make and model of British car ever made. If anyone needs more info email me at ABatt10347@aol.com. As stated in my previous post I'm not a member of this club, just someone who has enjoyed this show in the past. As of today looks like about 5 to 6 D's maybe coming. Thanks James for the bandwith. Bruce Battles Vin # 6569
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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 20:27:14 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Fuel Filter and Distributor location
If the car runs fine when started than the problem in not related to the fuel filter. Good cold operation and poor warm operation are usually related to the warm up and or fuel enrichment circuit or youmay need a CO mix adjustment.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net> ---------- > From: yugoman <mdrig@email.msn.com> > To: dmcnews@world.std.com > Subject: DML: Fuel Filter and Distributor location > Date: Monday, March 22, 1999 10:59 PM > > A man was looking at a car I have for sale yesterday, and seeing the > Delorean in the driveway started asking a few questions about it. I showed > him how it runs, starting out fairly smooth but getting rough after a > while. > He suggested first thing to change the fuel filter, then maybe the > distributor cap nad wires. Problem is I don't know where any of these > items > are! Ok, it's my stupid question of the week! >
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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 22:27:16 -0500 From: "David Silek, Regent School of Law" <dsilek@email.msn.com> Subject: DML: Re: Re: Specialty automotive???
Does anyone have any clue which month had the directions for removing the ceiling panels. I just got the new fiberglass panels from PJ Grady and need to know how to put them in as well as to take out the old ones.
Thanks David #6110
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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 20:57:25 -0700 From: "The Haney's" <haneydr@ix.netcom.com> Subject: DML: DMC: Insurance
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Being in Colorado I don't drive my D in the winter. It seems to act more like a run away sled than a sports car on ice. Plus there are too many transplants from states without snow who don't have the skills to drive in it.
I was able to get comprehensive ONLY insurance through my Farmers agent for under $100 for 6 months. Yes, I have a good driving record and I'm 38 years old. The replacement value is on the books at $15K(which incidentialy is more than I paid for it) but my agent said that's just a starting point and if I could prove its worth more I would have to work with the claims adjuster to come up with the true fair market value if something ever happened to it.
When I want to drive it I just call him up and tell him. They cover it for the day, weekend whatever and charge me $4.50 per day which comes out to roughly $800 for 6 months. This works out great saves me money, and it helps me to be disciplined and not just drive the car every day to work. The last time I covered it for a full 6 months(last summer) it cost me $590. So I think depending on your situation coverage isn't really too hard to get or too expensive.
Dan Haney Vin # 3254
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 03:24:03 -0800 From: Sharon <sharon@radiance.com> Subject: DML: patients please
Hello to the DLM,
My name is Sharon and I am Lee Seiler's wife.
Lee has been very ill with the influenza this past week and must rest in bed. I am not letting him work all night and most of the day on these car models until he has recovered from his influenza. I help him with the billing and shipping when I can. Let me reassure all owners of the model cars that Lee is making good progress producing and sending them out, I don't think any one understands how much work he puts into each one, but for the next week no kits may be shipped, it all depends on how soon Lee recovers.
I shipped (UPS) the last batch of models today for every one Lee contacted for the correct mailing address, you should get your model in a week.
If you have any questions about you model cars please send your e-mail to me.
Thank you
Sharon Seiler Model car widow
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 13:55:48 +0100 From: "j.m.s.c. lommen" <j.m.s.c.lommen@hccnet.nl> Subject: DML: no subject
Hi Mike, =20 I did't understand if you still would like to receive door panel removal = instructions. About the divers door mirror : replacing the mirror will = probably not solve your problem. To analise the electric problem, you = can measure if a current is flowing through the door mirror switch, and = the current received by the mirror. If the mirror doesn't receive a = current, you'll probably have a loose contact in the roof. If this is = so, send me a mail and I'll explain how to fix it. You can remove the = mirror glass only, since it is glued to the mirror with double adhesive = tape. Bend out one edge carefully, ontil you can stick a spatchler = behind the glass. Ease it though hehind the glass, and try not to break = the mirror further. You can use the broken glass as a mould, and get a = new custom made mirror.=20 =20 Good luck ! =20 Frenkie, Venray . Netherlands
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 11:14:32 -0500 From: "yugoman" <mdrig@email.msn.com> Subject: DML: Engine Bay Latch
I'll contribute another silly question! Opening the engine cover on #2423 is a two-person job- someone must be at the back to pull up on the latch while another pulls the handle inside the car. Is something wrong on my car, or was this just a DMC oversight? Anybody know of a fix?
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