DeLorean Mailing List - 05/13/96


Monday, 13 May 1996        Volume 02 : Number 112

       In this issue:
        Door locks and clunking sounds
        Re: Tech. FAQ
        Clunking Sound and Etc...
        What to Look For (Odometer)
        Delorean info
        Too hot & out of gas
        Frame Rust from Chase

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From: Todd Saylor, todd(AT)bi-tech.com
Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 12:11:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Door locks and clunking sounds

Many thanks to Chase for his work on the "common faults" list -- I look 
forward to seeing the results of his effort.  The table of contents looks 
great!

Problems for today (probably common faults):

1) I've noticed that when I lock/unlock the driver door, the passenger door 
follows along.  Yet, when I lock/unlock the passenger door, the driver door 
does not.  I don't think this is the correct behavior -- any idea which of 
the two locking mechanisms I should suspect?

2) I noticed that Chase's list included something about clunking sounds 
from the rear.  I have such a sound, usually when turning hard or backing 
out of a driveway and turning.  I've been told it sounds like a problem 
with the CV (constant velocity) joint.  Is there a more likely cause?

3) When my AC cycles on/off, it sends a "popping" sound through my stereo. 
 Often, it generates enough electrical noise to shut down my equalizer or 
amplifier (no, they're not stock; they're too computerized for their own 
good).  Has anyone else experienced this?  Would you suggest some type of 
surge suppressor?

Any advice?

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From: Eric J.Hennebury, aj532(AT)freenet.toronto.on.ca
Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 17:41:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Tech. FAQ

Chase,
	Under wiring modifications, maybe the bypass of the fan fail 
module and upgrading of the circuit breakers should be mentioned.  This 
mod was suggested to me by the people at PJ Grady (no doubt because they 
sell the kit for a stiff $45!)  The circuit breaker for my cooling fans 
fried to a crisp, even though the fans themselves work and don't seem to 
draw excessive current.  I would be happy to e-mail you the specifics of 
this mod if you feel it should be included.  The list looks great!  I can 
hardly wait to check it out!
Good luck.
Eric

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From: Chase Clark, stormrider(AT)socketis.net
Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 17:41:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Clunking Sound and Etc...

Todd and Everyone Else:

The clunking sound is caused by the rear bearings and is not a cause for
concern from what others have told me. Evidently, the rear bearing cylinder
in the DeLorean is not a tight fit and is able to slide to and fro
slightly, creating a clunking sound during tight turns. My left rear wheel
has this sound all the time, but I hardly ever notice it from the right
rear wheel.

In another strange thing, I have heard a clicking sound from my rear brakes
(once again mostly the left rear wheel) when going down the road. This
sound goes away when the brakes are applied. However, I have heard that the
rear brakes do not have retaining pins and also are bouncing around
creating this noise. It's no wonder the brakes pads are reported to have
such a short life span.

As far as a popping through your electrical system from when the AC cycles,
do you have the Fanzilla module that is suppose to ease the load on the
electrical system? I do not have it yet myself, but likely will buy it as
some point. I suspect it would help your situation, although, putting surge
suppressors on each component still would be an excellent idea.

While on the subject of electrical work, has anyone experimenting with
using a higher-powered alternator than the original Motorola unit? I have
the ORIGINAL Ducellier right now (it's been rebuilt) and expect I'll have
to replace it at some point, and was wondering if a 110 amp unit might be
better than the stock 85-90 amp unit?

~ Chase

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From: Chase Clark, stormrider(AT)socketis.net
Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 17:51:21 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: What to Look For (Odometer)

Gonzo and Guy:

One thing to have checked out on any DeLorean for sale is the odometer
reading versus wear and tear on the body, interior and engine. The angle
drive unit that runs the speed/odometer gauges can be disabled in a matter
of minutes. Also, the angle drive has a high failure rate due to lack of
lubrication and it was quite common for it to fail on DeLoreans within
15,000 miles. The original lower speedo cable also was a bit too long and
had a habit of kinking up and causing the speedometer to flutter back and
forth, thereby giving inaccurate readings all the way around.

If other parts of the car look like they have more mileage than the
odometer states, then don't believe it's reading. Mechanics told me that my
engine looked like it had more than the 12,143 miles showing on the gauge
when I purchased it, but since the interior was in good shape and the
original NCT series tires were still on the rear of the car, I elected to
take my chances that it was still a pretty low mileage 15-year old car.

Just some advice for you to think about.

~ Chase

Guy: I will have more information for you within a week. Sorry that it is
taking so long to put together.

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From: michael richard pack, mrpack(AT)wam.umd.edu
Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 13:00:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Delorean info

There is a short story & photo on the Delorean in the 15 years ago 
section of the June 1996 Road & Track magazine page 32.

Does Robert Lamrock have an address I can write to Via Snail-mail, or 
E-mail? Does anybody have the book"The DeLorean Tapes" for sale?  I'm trying to locate a copy of the TV movie version via E-mail. 

For those of you that live on the east coast,(NY, NJ, DE, MD, VA, WVA 
etc) our Bowie British car day is on Sunday June 23, 1996. To participate 
in the parade around the lake we need 6 or more cars in attendance. The 
grounds open at 9:00 am. If you need directions, write for more details.

How bad is it if a Delorean was in an accident, however the front crush 
area was replaced as well as all the necessary parts? We've looked at 
some "nice cars" but they are really overpriced. In addition to thousands 
of dollars required in necessary repairs, and updates. Has anyone 
purchased a Delorean Motor Company refurbished car?  They seem to be 
daily driver ready with the necessary upgrades, etc. Any thoughts?
I don't need a daily Delorean, just something that I'll be proud to show 
my dad.

With Kind Regards
Michael Pack

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From: RFiechter(AT)aol.com
Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 13:31:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Too hot & out of gas

Took my 81 automatic delorean out today (cherry 8,500 miles)  The week 
before my battery died.  Ran a trickle charger for two days and she started up.  
Gas guage is off showing 1/4 tank less than it actually has.  After running on
the highway for about 30 miles the gauge was near zero (should have still
have had1/4 tank) and no idiot light was on ( if their is one).  Car 
stalled when I slowed to 30 for traffic in the left lane.  I coasted off the 
highway and she started up again.  Stalled out again and I limped into a gas 
station. Filled up and she ran fine except that the gauge had shot up to 180 - 200 degrees.  She usually runs at 120.  Drove for about another ten minutes 
home. engine didn't go ever 200 but didn't go down either.  Is this overheating 
due to running out of gas or did the stalling occur due to overheating?  
Could my charger have fried some circuitry?  Any ideas?

Rene Fiechter,  Baldwin NY rfiechter(AT)aol.com

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From: deneb(AT)denebcorp.com
Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 13:31:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Frame Rust from Chase

Chase writes:

> SNIP 

>I figure it can't hurt (might keeop some of those little nuts, bolts and
>screws from rusting) and is definitely cheaper than a new stainless steel
>frame, plus the time and labor it would take to place a new frame on a
>DeLorean. From what I can tell by looking at everything, it basically
>requires taking the entire car apart and then reassembling over the new
>frame. Not fun!
>
>~ Chase

As someone who has rebuilt a DeLorean, I wanted to comment on Chase's 
last paragraph for his post.  Installing a new frame in the DeLorean is 
actually not a difficult process.  Only 10 bolts hold the entire 
fiberglass underbody onto the DeLorean frame.  So in simple terms you 
have to remove the ten bolts, disconnect the heater antifreeze lines, 
some A/C lines, some misc. electrical connections, brake lines, and 
steering linkage.  Once everything is disconnected, you can lift/jack the 
fiberglass underbody off the frame leaving you with the frame, 
engine/trans, suspension and easy access to all fluid lines on the car.  
You never have to remove anything from the top of the car like Stainless 
Steel panels, doors, or glass.

If anyone has any specific questions, about this process, please feel 
free to E-Mail.

Bryan Pearce

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