dmcnews-digest Thursday, 1 May 1997 Volume 02 : Number 237 In this issue: Re: Parts for sale/wanted RE: Photos, please? Jokes about the DMC Re: Jokes about the DMC Whats with the "pi" symbol? Re: How-to compilation? Sitting in Cars Re: Obligations of owners (was Photo's, Please?) Re: Jokes about the DMC Re: Facia Painting Re: Whats with the "pi" symbol? Re:looking for owner Re: Photos, and other Public Relations RE: Whats with the "pi" symbol? 81, 82 and 83 Chronology UPDATE ADMIN NOTE: email addresses Doors ! Adjusting Brakes RE: Dependable??? I need a DeLorean seat! (or two) Re: Doors ! Adjusting re: Brakes Doors New Owner / De- Lurker ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James NicholsDate: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 13:05:22 +0000 Subject: Re: Parts for sale/wanted Michael Pack wrote: "1. Set of rear Goodyear NCT tires. These were the original tires on the car from the factory. I would NOT drive on these tires but the tread depth is good, and the side walls are in good shape. They have 12,000 miles on them. Good for Concours d' Elegance." I have talked to several tire men who have told me that either nylon or polyester tires are safe as long as the rubber on the sidewall and between the tread is not cracked. My tires are original with 12000 miles also and I drive the the car once a week or so. Do we have any tire (or tyre) experts on the list? Jim #6884 ------------------------------ From: PLANT1B.PCNET.net.com!ke6507@kaiser Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 16:21:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: RE: Photos, please? I have owned my DeLorean for three years and often get asked by both kids and adults if they can either see the interior or sit in the car. I have owned several classic and unique sports cars and I expect people, especially kids, to want to look at and even check out the car. However, I have the opposite reaction you had. If I want to be left alone, I don't drive my DeLorean. Most classic car owners I know are very open to showing off their cars. The ultimate complement to me is someone wanting to take a picture (of course I'm never in the picture). You're driving a "Back to the Future Car" that kids love and it will always draw attention. I have never had anyone damage my car. Most kids talk about this experience for weeks (at least that's what my kids tell me). I have never had the experience of anyone sitting in my car without asking me. I remember what it was like seeing classic sports cars when I was a kid. I always make time for kids who want to see what a DMC is all about. Dave B ------------------------------ From: "Scott Mueller" Date: Wed, 30 Apr 97 00:05:41 UT Subject: Jokes about the DMC James, How about a HUMOR SECTION on your new web page. A place for jokes about the DMC. Like, The DeLorean is the only car ever to come with an Autopilot as standard equipment, it just follows the white lines. CalTrans hates the DeLorean. Caltrans has to replace all of the white dots on the road when a DeLorean travels down it. I enjoy hearing them, and people enjoy me telling them, I think? ------------------------------ From: Starman Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 23:11:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Jokes about the DMC Hi, I don't like DMC jokes. When you drop several thousand dollars on something I don't think jokes are what you'd like to hear. Mike ------------------------------ From: Jack Danuke Date: Tue, 29 Apr 97 17:54:02 -0000 Subject: Whats with the "pi" symbol? On the new dmcnews web pages there is a "pi" symbol down near the bottom on the black side that wasn't there last week. I clicked on it and it asked me for a user name and password? What's the deal? Jack ------------------------------ From: e/evan/altendorf Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 19:08:05 -0700 Subject: Re: How-to compilation? On Mon, 28 Apr 1997 13:27:44 -0000, James Espey wrote: II am actively searching for a method of easily indexing the back issues, or looking for a volunteer to do so. Additionally, I am open to any ideas that would make the back issues "searchable" through the web pages. Please email me directly if you have ideas or other input how we can extract as much usefulness out the wealth of information in the back issues... There are a couple of tools for converting mail archives to HTML pages with threaded indices. One of my favorites is MHonArc. http://www.oac.uci.edu/indiv/ehood/mhonarc.html It's very customizable. This doesn't directly support searches, however. You'd have to find another program to set up a search engine. What I was thinking of is a manually compiled and sorted set of specific how- to's, so that when something breaks down, you can go to the TOC and click on it, and see how other people fixed it. I guess a search engine would do the same thing, it would just lack that repair-manual feel. OTOH, it would be more flexible. - -e. ------------------------------ From: "Scott Mueller" Date: Wed, 30 Apr 97 00:02:17 UT Subject: Sitting in Cars I have recently participated in two car shows. The first was the "British Car Show" in Monterey. The attendees were primarily very polite and respected the signs. When someone came up who was obviously very excited about the car, ask if they could sit in it, I would ask to see the bottoms of there shoes and make sure that nothing was in there pockets that would damage the seats. I found that by asking those questions first, they relized that my DMC was important to me. At the Pacific Coast Dream Machines, a very large show in Half Moon Bay last weekend, there were 1500 cars and thousands of people. Again, the same rules applied. I only turned one group away, "Punk Rockers/Grunge", the reason being was the heavy black boots, studs in the leather clothes, ect. They were not happy, but when you have a bunch of Harley owners across the way that like your car, who's gonna screw with you. I personaly enjoy going to the shows and talking to people about my car. Most are polite and are just curious. In fact I have meet many interesting people and have heard some good jokes about the DeLorean. ------------------------------ From: ian@inow.com (Ian) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 21:00:57 +0000 Subject: Re: Obligations of owners (was Photo's, Please?) >The car will attract attention, anytime, anywhere. One of the early magazine reviews noted this and said the Delorean is not a car for the introverted. I don't think we have any more obligations than owners of other "interesting" cars, but at the same time, I do go out of my way to leave a positive impression with people about the car. >James I do understand your position. I know I have one heck of a rush every time I meet a DeLorean owner, but one time I was with some 'friends' from school going to my house for a project... I saw the DeLorean and obviously pulled over as quickly as possible. I approached and quietly waited for a signal from the owner, who was standing near the car talking to his passenger, once I was shure he was not in some type of serious situation I made the famous statement: "Gorgeous DeLorean." He was happy to talk to me but he was obvoiusly ready to go. I saw this and made the comment that it was nice to see him and I'll let him go... Right then my 'buddy' asks "Can we get a ride?" and gets in his face. Oy. Embarrassment. I think it takes a special breed to own a DeLorean, I have never met one who was not curtious and kind. It's to bad that there are people who take advantage of this... DeLorean and Volkswagen Bug owners: both seem to have the right attitude towards life. Tis my .02 - -Ian ian@inow.com The DeLorean Mailing List Back Issue Guy. Remember: http://www.dmcnews.com/ (p.s. James, have you gotten my email?) ------------------------------ From: James Espey Date: Tue, 29 Apr 97 21:27:08 -0000 Subject: Re: Jokes about the DMC >James, >How about a HUMOR SECTION on your new web page. >A place for jokes about the DMC. I think I'll leave that to one of the "less serious" websites, personally I get a little sick of feigning amusement at the same, tired, BTTF, coke, etc. jokes... James ------------------------------ From: James Nichols Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 23:24:58 +0000 Subject: Re: Facia Painting Rob Hook wrote: "I don't think I had asked about this or not but I was searching the=20 back- issues for the proper paint to use on the fascias. I didn't find it in the list so I thought I'd post it here: Ditzler #STO4282. I don't know whether you need additives to let it flex or not. I imagnie so and I'll post that when I find out." I found this in the service bullitens, perhaps it will be useful. Jim # 6884 SERVICE BULLETIN DE LOREAN MOTOR COMPANY NUMBER ST- 13-9/81 CATEGORY: TECHNICAL ATTENTION: DMC DEALERS/SERVICE MANAGERS SUBJECT: FACIA FRONT/REAR REPAIRS AND REFINISHING Attached please find the instructions for repairs and refinishing of the front or rear facias. The soft facias of the DE LOREAN vehicle are made of polyurethane material which require special repair and refinishing methods. The attached instructions contain the paint formula usinq R-M (Rinshed - Mason) products. Paint formulas of other suppliers will be made available as soon as we receive them. Please inform all personnel concerned accordingly. Sincerely, Lutz Feuerabendt Technical Service Manager LF: dg attachment BULLETIN ST-13-9/81 PROCEDURES REPAIRS: Facias must be installed tension free. If necessary, the mounting points/surfaces of the body or facias must be reworked. 2. Heavy Damages: Multiple or large tears, or torn out pieces, require the replacement of the facia. 3. Cracks, Tears, Scratches, Gouges: a. Cracks/Tears - Can be repaired by bonding using 3M-8101 construction glue. b. Minor Scratches/Gouges - Involving the surface paint coat only, can be repaired as follows: Using 400 paper (wet), color sand until scratch is removed. If necessary, to provide a good painting surface, spray and sand the area using the color coat material. (See Refinishing.) c. Major Scratches/Gouges - Using coarse sandpaper, prepare the area to be repaired. The area must also be free of oil/grease. Build up material as necessary using 3M-8101 construction glue. If a layered build up is required, allow approximately one hour between applications. Wet sand the repaired area starting with 200 sandpaper and then with 400-600 sandpaper to obtain a smooth surface. If necessary, to provide a good painting surface, spray and sand the area using the color coat material. (See Refinishing.) (Continued) BULLETIN ST-13-9/81 PROCEDURES (Continued) REFINISHING: Depending on the size or location of the required area(s), either spot/area painting or complete repainting of the facia may be necessary. The following steps apply to either approach: 1. Thoroughly remove all greases, dirt, wax, and other contaminants from the area to be painted with RM 900 Precleano. 2. Wet sand with 400 paper. 3. Repeat Step 1. NOTE: Be sure to remove all hard water residue if water sanding is used. . Apply Alpha-Cryl Lacquer color coat. RM (RINSHED MASON) FORMULA PNT - 90 - 100 AT - 141 - 253 AT - 114 - 348 AT - 116 - 428 AT - 184 - 434 AT - 122 - 440 AT - 100 - 1000 891 - See label Directions (Flex Agent) 5. Allow Alpha-Cryl color to dry a minimum of two hours (16 hours for maximum gloss at 70-72=B0 F.). NOTE: A minimum of two hours is required before Step 6 is performed. . For the high gloss finish, apply RM 893 2K Clear / 894 2K Hardener per label directions. ------------------------------ From: "Michael E. Gaines" Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 20:03:15 +0100 Subject: Re: Whats with the "pi" symbol? Jack Danuke wrote: >On the new dmcnews web pages there is a "pi" symbol down near the bottom on the black side that wasn't there last week. I clicked on it and it asked me for a user name and password? What's the deal? >Jack Haha. Watch 'The Net'. I have one of those on my web page too. http://www.cnj.digex.net/~starman Mike ------------------------------ From: "Marc Levy" Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 08:15:45 -0400 Subject: Re:looking for owner Doug Writes: >I saw a DeLorean driving around East Brunswick NJ today Just wondering if your on the list >If you are, Please E-mail me I drive my D through East Brunswick on a regular basis (today, as a matter of fact!), but it was not me who you saw on Saturday. I was home putting a new radiator in my SHO. It would be fun to get a few local D's together from central Jersey for one of the cruise nights.. Like in Freehold. Marc marc.levy@prudential.com ------------------------------ From: "Marc Levy" Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 08:46:14 -0400 Subject: Re: Photos, and other Public Relations Mike Wrote: >This weekend my wife and I just went for a drive down the shore. We stopped for a bit in Atlantic Highlands and of course the car attracted >plop their kids in the car and take pictures without asking. I didn't buy Wow! You live in the area too! I drive down that way all the time in my D, ant other cars... Anyway, I have not had any strangers be so bold as to ask to put his brat in my car, but it is almost guaranteed that the gas station dude will always ask the same standard questions.. I have considered printing out the FAQ, and keeping copies in the car for all of the questions I get asked. "Check the doors for drugs yet" is on the top ten of most asked questions, along with "Where is the flux capacitor" I wish I had a dime for every....... The truth is, I have never been rude, and have always just politely answered their questions. Unless you have owned such a car that attracts attention, you don't understand that everyone asks the same questions. To them, they think they are the first person to show a interest.. I bought a 66 Mustang when I was 16, so I got used to the conversations and questions at every possible opportunity. On one trip in the mustang, I was asked "What Year" at almost every red light. Why? Who cares what year it is! And who cares that you used to have one when they were new, am I supposed to be impressed? This is not a competition, I am just out enjoying a drive in my car! Competition, that is a whole different thread! Why is it that every dirtbag in a 5.0 mustang, or camaro feels the need to race me?! This morning I had a Escort "Sport Coupe" try and race me. With the twin turbos, I give the Mustangs a good race, but little do they know that I am keeping up with 2 less liters and 2 less cylinders! Besides, it is more fun to leave them in the dust with my SHO. "Hey! You just got beat by a grandpa car!!" allrightiey I'm done.. Marc marc.levy@prudental.com ------------------------------ From: Mike Asher Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 08:43:56 -0500Subject: RE: Whats with the "pi" symbol? Wasn't that in "The Net"? ....It was the mark of an underground group trying to take over the world.... >---------- >From: Jack Danuke >Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 1997 12:54 PM >To: DMC News >Subject: Whats with the "pi" symbol? >On the new dmcnews web pages there is a "pi" symbol down near the bottom on the black side that wasn't there last week. I clicked on it and it asked me for a user name and password? What's the deal? >Jack ------------------------------ From: James Espey Date: Wed, 30 Apr 97 11:02:47 -0000 Subject: 81, 82 and 83 Chronology UPDATE Well, with 83 cars, or nearly 1 percent of the commonly accepted production total of 8583 cars, I think we're moving along nicely. There are still MANY list subscribers that have not sent in their info to me. Remember, if you don't want your name listed, just let me know and I can include your data but not your name. Some thoughts that I had while looking over the list.. 1. Still no consecutively numbered cars. 2. Many states still not represented. 3. Any more cars with a VIN under 1000? 4. Any cars after Jan 82 and before Aug 82? 5. Do any of the local DMC clubs track VIN's of members cars? Full details of the production chronology with an estimated production graph (by Knut Grimsrud) can be found at: http://www.dmcnews.com/chrono.html Thanks! James "Mikasa" Espey Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List http://www.dmcnews.com/ ************************************************* 1981 DeLorean Production Chronology (53) - ---------------------------------------------- - 00500 Mar 81 Crawford Automotive Museum (Ohio), black, 5 speed 00577 Mar 81 Scott Sykes (New Jersey), black, 5-speed 01028 ??? 81 George Ford (North Carolina), black, 5 speed 01042 Apr 81 Billy Runyan (Illinois), black, 5 speed 01049 Apr 81 Web Bixby (Missouri), black, 5 speed 01141 Apr 81 WITHHOLD NAME (California), black, 5 speed 01149 Apr 81 Don Gowler (Illinois), black, automatic 01280 May 81 Mike Substelny (Ohio), black, 5 speed 01482 May 81 Tom Long (Georgia), black, 5 speed 01523 May 81 Scott Ciszek (Virginia), black, 5 speed 01529 May 81 Chase Clark (Missouri), black, 5-speed 01606 Jun 81 Ralph Sandstrom (Illinois), black, 5 speed 02135 Jul 81 Mike Griese (Minnesota), black, 5 speed 02191 Jul 81 Steve Klein (New York), black, automatic 02255 Jul 81 Markus Gunkel (Germany), black, 5 speed 02273 Jul 81 Jameel Ahed (Illinois), black, 5-speed 02320 Jul 81 Richard Strecker (Ohio), black, 5 speed 02541 ??? 81 WITHHOLD NAME (New Hampshire), black, 5 speed 02781 Aug 81 Bob Benyon (Rhode Island), black, auto 02860 Aug 81 Chris Rabalais (Arizona), black, 5 speed 02981 Aug 81 Scott Mueller (California), grey, 5-speed 03153 Aug 81 Ray Haug (California), Grey, 5 speed 03472 Aug 81 Michael Babb (North Carolina), grey, 5 speed 03476 Aug 81 Joel Matos (Puerto Rico), grey, 5 speed 03583 Sep 81 Bob Benyon (Rhode Island), black, auto 03864 Sep 81 WITHHOLD NAME (California), black, 5-speed 03886 Sep 81 Bob Kidd (Ohio), black, 5-speed 04155 Sep 81 Guy Boutet (Quebec), black, 5 speed 04428 Oct 81 Matt Peak (California), grey, 5-speed 04556 Oct 81 Vincent Voss (Alaska), grey, 5 speed 04797 Oct 81 Dennis Lowery (Virginia), grey, automatic 04883 Oct 81 Garry Hewitt (United Kingdom), grey, 5 speed 05203 Oct 81 Jason Winter (Texas), grey, 5 speed 05319 Oct 81 Bill Burden (Alabama), grey, 5 speed 05429 Oct 81 David Swingle (Illinois), grey, 5 speed 05922 Oct 81 Frederick Embden (New York) 05962 Oct 81 Murray Fisher (Washington), grey, automatic 06097 ??? 81 Gabe Rexach (Florida), grey, 5 speed 06221 Nov 81 George Ford (North Carolina) TOTALLED 06247 Nov 81 Mike Novotny (Pennsylvania, grey, 5 speed 06250 Nov 81 Dennis Listenberger (Indiana), grey, automatic 06301 Nov 81 Chris Shepherd (Oregon), grey, 5 speed 06416 Nov 81 Jason Ross (Illinois), grey, 5 speed 06530 Nov 81 Dick Ryan (Colorado), grey, auto 06569 Nov 81 Bruce Battles (Tennessee), grey, 5 speed 06581 Nov 81 Lars-Goran Andersson (Sweden), grey, 5 speed 06600 Nov 81 Byrne Heninger (Georgia), ???, 5 speed 06623 Nov 81 Dan Berglund (Washington), grey, 5 speed 06810 Nov 81 Kevin Wolter (Illinois), grey, 5- speed 06882 Nov 81 Raz D'Angelo (Florida) grey, automatic 06884 Nov 81 James Nichols Sr (Texas), grey, 5 speed 06938 Nov 81 Bruce Benson (Minnesota), grey, 5 speed 07134 Nov 81 Phillip Pratt (Texas), grey, 5 speed 1982 DeLorean Production Chronology (17) - ---------------------------------------------- - 10059 ??? 81 WITHHOLD NAME (California) 10209 Dec 81 Ron and Margaret Jackson (Arizona) 10213 Dec 81 Michael Gaines (New Jersey), grey, 5 speed 10251 Dec 81 Eddy Cue (California), grey, 5 speed 10410 Dec 81 Tom Ghesquiere (Texas), grey, 5 speed 10570 Dec 81 James Espey (Arizona), grey, 5 speed 10574 Dec 81 Dennis Adams (Wisconsin), grey, 5-speed 10607 Dec 81 Tony Swiantek (Illinois), grey, automatic 10675 Dec 81 Marty Maier (Illinois), grey, 5 speed 10688 Dec 81 Steve Brodsky (Texas), grey, 5-speed 10696 Dec 81 DeLorean Motor Company (Texas) 10788 Dec 81 Don Gowler (Illinois), grey, 5 speed 11060 Jan 82 Rob Hook (Virginia) grey, 5 speed 11152 ??? ?? Trinity M. Barbuto (Massachusetts) 11529 Jan 82 Bryan Pearce (Illinois) 11554 Jan 82 Aaron Mills (Michigan) 11594 Jan 82 David Olson (Wisconsin), black, 5-speed 1983 DeLorean Production Chronology (13) - ---------------------------------------------- 15244 Aug 82 Byrne Heninger (Georgia), black, 5 speed 15880 Aug 82 Doug Venner (New Jersey), grey, 5-speed 16000 Aug 82 Marv Sterling (New York), grey, 5-speed 16344 Aug 82 Knut Grimsrud (Oregon), grey, 5-speed 16348 Aug 82 Ray Haug (California), grey, automatic 16381 Aug 82 Michael Reinemuth (Heidelberg / Germany) 16422 Aug 82 Ray Petragallo (Nevada) 16693 Aug 82 Dave Kaplan (???), black, automatic 16873 Aug 82 Jeffrey Altman (Florida), grey, 5 -speed 17015 Sep 82 Robert S. Rodgers (New Jersey), black, 5- speed 17065 Sep 82 Eric Hennebury (Toronto), grey, 5-speed 17106 Sep 82 Michael Fischer (Calgary) grey, 5-speed 20095 Dec 82 WITHHOLD NAME (New Jersey), grey, 5-speed (10th from last made) ------------------------------ From: James Espey Date: Wed, 30 Apr 97 13:51:14 -0000 Subject: ADMIN NOTE: email addresses Effective immediately, please note my new email address: espey@dmcnews.com This is for personal as well as list-related email BUT NOT ITEMS YOU WANT POSTED TO THE LIST! The address for postings remains: dmcnews@world.std.com Please verify that this is where you are sending your postings. I have learned that some people are sending to addresses like dmcnews@europe.std.com dmcnews-approval@world.std.com dmcnews-digest@world.std.com dmcnews-digest@europe.std.com THESE ARE ALL BAD ADDRESSES! These postings do not always make it to me and therefore do not make it to the list. Also, there is no need to CC: the digest address, all postings to the "live" version are automatically included in the next digest. Thanks, and be sure to visit www.dmcnews.com! James Espey Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List http://www.dmcnews.com/ ------------------------------ From: "Brandon S. Moody" Date: Wed, 30 Apr 97 05:28:22 PDT Subject: Doors ! Adjusting Can someone give me some advice on how to adjust the doors. The driver door doesn't come down over the pins accurately. It bumps the top of the pin and then rides along the top of the pin until it latches. This makes it very hard to close the door and is tearing up the hinge assembly. HELP !!! PLEASE !!!! ------------------------------ From: Kevin Wolter Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 19:39:21 -0500 Subject: Brakes Hello all. I am getting ready to get my DMC out of storage and have a = question. When I put it in storage I was starting to have a brake problem. From = what I remember the brakes worked fine immediately after depressing the = pedal but after a second or two the pedal would start to slowly lower to = the floor and eventually I would loose my braking (definitely not very = fun in the middle of traffic!). Pumping the brakes helped a little bit. = Does this sound like I have air in the lines, the master cylinder is = bad, or some other type of weird DMC specific problem. I plan to take it to a local garage here in Champaign, IL that works on = other exotic type cars (Lotus, Porsche, etc). He has never worked on a = DMC but he is willing to. If he does a good job I will post his company = name and address in case anybody else needs it. Thanks Kevin #6810 ------------------------------ From: Rob Hook Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 17:21:59 -0400 Subject: RE: Dependable??? Phillip, Where in Virginia did you buy your car? I've been looking at them in this area for a while. Chances are, I test drove that car too. Was it in the Northern Virginia area? - --Rob Hook ------------------------------ From: James Espey Date: Wed, 30 Apr 97 19:39:51 -0000 Subject: I need a DeLorean seat! (or two) I am searching for a DeLorean seat. I would prefer to buy just one (either side) but if forced to I will buy a pair. If someone knows of a wrecked car or a car that the seats have been swapped out (I saw a set of Recaros in a DeLorean at the Las Vegas expo in '95), I would appreciate it. I intend to make an office chair out of it, so condition of the leather is not important. James ------------------------------ From: BRUCE BENSON Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 02:09:01 +0000 Subject: Re: Doors ! Adjusting At 12:28 PM 4/30/97 +0000, you wrote: >Can someone give me some advice on how to adjust the doors. The driver door doesn't come down over the pins accurately. It bumps the top of the pin and then rides along the top of the pin until it latches. This makes it very hard to close the door and is tearing up the hinge assembly. >HELP !!! PLEASE !!!! There is some degree of adjustment in the striker pin itself. If your car still has the rubber cover on the base if the striker pin remove it to reveal the hex shaped base. As you close the door try to see which direction the pin must go. Loosen the pin a bit and tap it to where you've determined it should be. Don't force the door to latch because it is possible to jam the latch if you've moved the pin too far out of alignment. With a little care and some trial and error you can find that happy medium. If the hinges need to be adjusted it becomes more involved because the front hinge adjustment requires removing the torsion bar. I'll bet just moving the striker pin will solve your problem. Bruce Benson ------------------------------ From: DMC12 Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 22:37:16 -0400 Subject: re: Brakes Mike Your description sounds like you have a bad master cylinder. It is easy to get to on the car so any mechanic should be able to handle the job without a problem. Make sure you get the system flushed out with the proper DOT 4 brake fluid to avoid other future problems. Doug '83 #15880 N.J. ------------------------------ From: DMC12 Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 22:41:54 -0400 Subject: Doors My right side door lines up very poorly to the front fender, but opens and closes fine. I am assuming that it was always like that but was wondering if there is anyway I can adjust it to make it line up. Right now it doesn't look real good because the black side moulding on the door is a inch or so lower than the moulding on the front fender. Thanx Doug Venner '83 #15880 N.J. ------------------------------ From: David Swingle Date: Wed, 30 Apr 97 22:56:40 -0600 Subject: New Owner / De- Lurker Another Lurker de-lurks! After collecting the DMC News list for over a year, reading all of the back issues, going to the DOA convention in Nashville, and having a couple of beers with our esteemed moderator in Phoenix, I finally took the plunge and purchased (October) 1981 #05429 last week. It is unpainted stainless, grey interior, hood with grooves/no flap, 5-speed. This will be a "weekend" car. My daily driver is a '94 Acura Integra GS-R. Since it absolutely never breaks (50k miles and only a brake job), I could use something interesting to work on. I've been a fan of, and following the DeLorean since the beginning, and have many of the original Car&Driver, R&T etc magazines from 1980-83 covering the rollout and ongoing story. Having a 12-year old son who is also nuts about the car was the final prod to get one. I found the DMC in a local ad paper. The car has been kept in a heated airplane hangar for the past 6 years and is relatively clean, runs well, with a few of the common cosmetic flaws that you see mentioned on the mailing list. It's not perfect, and was priced accordingly. The speedometer works and mileage shows 27000, but since the angle drive is held on to the backplate with a piece of wire I'm more than a little suspicious. Also there was a receipt buried in the owners' manual showing the tires being replaced at 20800 miles in 1986, even though the title showed the prior owner buying it in 1989 with 20000 miles on the odometer. The car was originally sold in Anaheim California but was brought to Illinois between 1986-89. I have the window sticker showing an original total price of $26175 with no options. Interesting to note that "Rear Mounted Power Antenna" appears to have been manually typed in at the bottom of the equipment list. The car is very original with only a couple of glaring exceptions, including a modified steering wheel (the top was cut off so it looks like an airplane wheel!). This was alledgedly done by the original dealer. It's interesting to look at, but kind of annoying to drive this way. I'm very interested in finding a "normal" steering wheel. If anybody has one available, email me at the address below. Also, there's a droopy center headliner, and the door headliners were replaced with what looks like mouse fur. The radio is the original Craig with some of the dial numbers still working (depending on how far you push the tape door). It still has the plastic water bottle. The rest of the interior appears perfect except for a crack in the instrument binnacle. Everything seems to work except the air conditioner (big surprise there). Although it runs very well, the car does show a few of the beginning signs of non-driving neglect. I've immediately started into the mechanical clean-up process. Cosmetics will have to wait a while. I plan to post the progress here as sort of a diary, feel free to toss in advice where you see fit. That said: First project was to check out the brakes. Looking into the master cylinder and seeing a bunch of what looks like green rocks and jello in the reservoir, and signs of rust on the steel disk, I decided to replace the master cylinder and do a cleanup of the hydralic system. I don't feel brakes are a good place to compromise. So far I've taken apart one of the calipers, and it looks like they should clean up OK. The pistons have very minor surface rust and no sign of pitting. The pads and rotors are in good shape. I expect to have the brakes finished this weekend, then it's on to the clutch hydraulics and cooling system. Future posting won't be so wordy, but I figured I could get away with it for the first one after a year of reading. Stay tuned. Dave Swingle dswingle@enteract.com ------------------------------ End of dmcnews-digest V2 #237 ***************************** To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@world.std.com with the message UNSUBSCRIBE DMCNEWS-DIGEST Back issues are available at http://www.dmcnews.com Contact mikasa@goodnet.com if you have problems.
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