DeLorean Mailing List - 5/19/97
dmcnews-digest Monday, May 19 1997 Volume 02 : Number 242
In this issue:
DML A/C problem!?
DML relay in the engine compartment
DML missing backissues
DML manual transmisson fluid
DML seat belt warning unit
DML Updates
DML ADMIN NOTE: Guest Moderator/List changes
DML Fuel gauge, strange things
Re: DML Fuel gauge, strange things
[none]
DML Fall Convention ????
DML DMC FOR SALE
DML Oil Filters
DML Did DMC ever make a right hand drive delorean?
DML: Stolen Parts Alert
DML: TECH SESSION - MIDWEST CONNECTION
DML: Coolant Draining
DML: DMC FOR SALE
DML: Where do you live?
DML: DeLorean Owners Directory
DML: Re: DML DMC FOR SALE
DML: TECH SESSION - MIDWEST CONNECTION
DML: 81, 82 and 83 Chronology UPDATE
DML: Lost keys
DML: Reminder, Oregon DMC enthusiast event
DML: Starting Problems/Oil Plug Wrench
DML: Coolant Drain Plugs
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Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 02:54:10 -0400 (EDT) From: GunkelWWW@aol.com
Subject: DML A/C problem!?
Can someone explain how often the A/C cycles, and it is depending on the
interior and exterior temperature in any way or only on the pressure in the
A/C System?
My A/C was low on freon. The Shop check my A/C and put new freon in it
(VIN2255 07/81 1250gr. freon R12).
Now I have cool air, but the A/C and the both cooling fan cycles on and off
every minute. Is this normal!? I think its very often!?
I a read about a filter that must be changed when refilling the A/C. Is this
true?
thank you for help!
Markus Gunkel
VIN 2255 Germany
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Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 02:55:34 -0400 (EDT) From: GunkelWWW@aol.com
Subject: DML relay in the engine compartment
I renewed the old relays in the electric compartment. And now I noticed a
relay in the engine compartment next to the compartment light switch.
Nowhere in the "books" is something mentioned about this relay. I think its
was later installed and it is connected
to the resistors from the coil.
Is this relay common and whats the function of this relay!?
Markus Gunkel
VIN 2255 Germany
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Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 02:56:10 -0400 (EDT) From: GunkelWWW@aol.com
Subject: DML missing backissues
I lost some of my delorean mailing lists. Can someone eMail me the issues
160-167. They also missing in the DMCNEWS backissues! Thank you...!
Markus Gunkel
VIN 2255 Germany
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Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 02:56:58 -0400 (EDT) From: GunkelWWW@aol.com
Subject: DML manual transmisson fluid
Where can you see/check/renew the manual transmisson fluid!? I only knew
the brake and clutch fluid (both DOT4?).
Markus Gunkel
VIN 2255 Germany
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Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 02:59:23 -0400 (EDT) From: GunkelWWW@aol.com
Subject: DML seat belt warning unit
I wondered why my seat belt warning unit don't work.
U U U U U U connector
I I I I I I
1 2 3 4 5 6 Pektron module (when you look on the contacts)
1 +12V
2 door switch (to ignition +12V)
3 seat switch (to ground)
4 warning lamp
5 Ground
6 ignition +12V
I which case must the warning lamp and the buzzer go on (both light and
sound when you turn ignition(engine?) on without using the belt, closing the
door(both sides?) or in both situations) and which conditions have the door
and seat switch then (open or connected to +12/ground)?
Is there a common failure with this units?
thank you for help!!
Markus Gunkel
VIN 2255 Germany
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Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 12:26:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Marcussen
Subject: DML Updates
I recently purchased a D and have begun reading archived DMLs. There are
frequent references on the list to "updates" being performed on the cars. I
presume that the updates are for safety, reliability and driveability reasons,
but have not yet encountered any specifics on them. Does anyone have a
listing and/or description of the updates?
Thanks,
Bill
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Date: Wed, 14 May 97 18:41:42 -0000
From: James Espey
Subject: DML ADMIN NOTE: Guest Moderator/List changes
Part of my preparation for EuroFest has been what to do with the list. Those
who were here last fall will remember that I took the list off moderation
while I went to the Expo in Nashville, and the results were not pretty.
Knut "Knasty" Grimsrud has graciously volunteered to maintain the list as
"Guest Moderator" in my absence. THERE IS NO CHANGE IN WHERE OR
TO WHOM YOU SOULD SEND POSTINGS FOR THE LIST.
I have also chosen this time to make some changes to the list and digest.
Effective immediately, a digest will be generated every three days or when the
content of all the digested(?) messages exceeds 40K, whichever comes first.
Subscribers to the "live" version should see the letters "DML" as a prefix for
each posted message. Maybe this will help sorting and such for some.
Sometime over the weekend I will disable the forms for subscribing and
unsubscribing until I get back from Belfast - instructions are there for
subbing/unsubbing "the old way".
Questions? Email me, I will be checking email until sometime next Tuesday...
James Espey
Vacationing Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List http://www.dmcnews.com/
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Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 10:50:46 -0500
From: Kevin Wolter Subject: DML Fuel gauge,
strange things
Hello all.
As I was coming into work this morning I noticed my fuel gauge jump =
twice during the 20 minute trip. When I pulled into work I then noticed =
that the needle was pegged pointing straight down. Any ideas?
And on a strange note. Does anybody else have a D's that just starts = fixing
itself? Last night on the way back from work my driver side = mirror started
working again. I wonder if there if there is some = 'force' in the DeLorean
that fixes one thing a breaks another. :^)
Thanks in advance.
Kevin #6810
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Date: Thu, 15 May 97 09:37:41 -0000
From: James Espey
Subject: Re: DML Fuel gauge, strange things
>As I was coming into work this morning I noticed my fuel gauge jump =
twice during the 20 minute trip. When I pulled into work I then noticed =
that the needle was pegged pointing straight down. Any ideas?
THis happened on a friends car, except the needle went straight UP, one fo the
wires attached to the top of the sending unit had come loose -
James
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Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 13:46:37 -0400 (EDT) From: GullWinged@aol.com
Subject: [none]
>I'm curious if there are DeLorean owners in the St. Louis Missouri...I'm
curious as to how I would fit with (and in) >a
DeLorean. I'd just like to see one in person.
For Andy and anyone else with a similar interest, I will be bringing my
custom DeLorean to the St. Louis area in a few weeks to take delivery of some
'special' parts for my car. FYI, I will be travelling on I-70 from Columbia to St.
Louis. Anyone wanting a chance to gawk and paw the car, just let me know
via email and I'll keep you informed of my travel plans as they are finalized.
Chase Clark
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Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 15:57:10 -0400 (EDT) From: GullWinged@aol.com
Subject: DML Fall Convention ????
I just recently made up my mind about joining DOA and attending the
convention in Colorado late this summer. Actually, it wasn't that hard a
decision after looking through the agenda for last year's convention and
reviewing the list of 'to do' items on my own '81 DeLorean. In essence I will
not be going and it is not meant to be taken as a way of slamming DOA. The
organization has been very instrumental in banding together owners and
keeping some much-needed technical information in circulation.
HOWEVER, I find the convention is more for the upper-class owners to
congregrate at expensive hotels, socialize at numerous buffets and sight-see in
style. I can find much better uses of $1,200 than going to Colorado.
Actually, I am one of the 'newer' breed of DeLorean owners that were
fascinated by the car for its own sake, as well as the BTTF movies perhaps, and
started to research it. I found it to be very affordable luxury for an 'exotic' car
and could not resist buying one. In no way am I rich and wanting to waste lots
of money on a club event that is more social than technical related. I would
love to see a convention where owners and enthusiasts could get together
and socialize, learn more technical info about the car and even participate in a
couple of events to promote the DMC.
With this in mind, I am posting this to see if there would be any interest in
having a cheaper convention this fall in the Midwest. Being from Missouri
and having grown up near Lake of the Ozarks, I was thinking that it would
not be too difficult for me to arrange a 2-4 day event at the Lake in late
September to mid October. The summer heat will be gone, the leaves will be
changing to all shades of color and the manic summer tourists will have
departed for the most part.
I was thinking of setting up a deal with a moderately-priced hotel that would
include somewhat-casual breakfast and dinner plans. Naturally, a car show
and technicial meetings would be held. I am also interested in setting up a
charity golf tourney to benefit the Ronald McDonald House and the Dream
Factory (which helps dying children fulfill their dreams). The reason for this
would be to help foster a greater respect for us owners and the DeLorean itself.
I would have no problems arranging publicity and news coverage since I
spent several years as a journalist at numerous publications within a 60 mile
radius of the Lake.
Cost of the event, to be held Friday through Sunday, is not known yet, but I
would want to bring it down below half the cost of the DOA convention. The
major expenses would be the hotel, banquests and bringing in Stephen
Wynne or Rob Grady as technical experts. I want to keep it cheap enough that
more people interested in buying a DeLorean now or in the future will
consider attending the event to see the cars and learn more about them. I also
want to attract a larger breadth of owners than I believe the DOA event does.
Sorry for the length here, but it was necessary to get this all said. Anyone who
might be interested in attending this (hopeful) event should contact me via
email within the next month. I would need to have at least two full months
to organize everything and a sufficient number of commited attendees to
turn it into a reality.
Thanks!
Chase Clark
GullWinged@aol.co,
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Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 17:53:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Trepkose13@aol.com
Subject: DML DMC FOR SALE
Sorry to say that I am going to have to sell my DMC. It is a 1981 with 23K
original miles. The body and interior look brand new. Various updates and
extras. 5 speed with grey interior. Always covered\garaged. Asking $18,500. E-
Mail me for more information.
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Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 15:23:53 +0000
From: James Nichols Subject: DML Oil Filters
Since there has been so much concern on oil filters being too large in
diameter to fit the Delorean without removing the pressure sending unit, I
made a few phone calls to some of the manufactures' of oil filters. I was
impressed by the courteous response from each of the manufactures that I
talked to. They were very helpful and had things like flow rates, by pass valve
pressures, and fitting sizes at hand.
Apparently the lawyers have been around, since each manufacturer,
including Purolator, warned me that use of any filter not specifically
recommended for the Delorean would be "AT YOUR OWN RISK". Purolator
is the only manufacturer that that I found that recommends a filter for the
Delorean, the L10018, which is also too large to install easily. A filter
recommendation for a Volvo does not count as a recommendation for a
Delorean. Oh well, I guess we all have to take a risk once in a while.
The filter that appears to match our needs is longer and slimmer than the
original, has the same 3/4 inch thread and the same diameter gasket. The
bypass valve is set at 8-11 psi, whereas the bypass valve in the recommended
filter is 14-16 psi. The bypass valve is built into the filter and opens when
there is a differential pressure across the filter element to allow oil flow to the
engine if the filter element becomes clogged. If you change your oil every 3000
miles the lower bypass pressure should be of no consequence.
The following filters meet the above criteria: AC PF 56 Fram 3600
Lee LF400
Motorcraft FL400A
Purolator L20195
Wix 51516
Do not use the following eventhough they will fit: Lee LF 2861 (bypass
pressure 27-35)
Purolator L20064 (no bypass valve)
I hope that this may be of some help.
Jim #6884
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Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 10:50:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Andy
Vousden@world.std.com, andyv@andy.noc.demon.net Subject: DML Did
DMC ever make a right hand drive delorean?
As Deloreans were made in Ireland were there any right hand drive cars
made as I've not seen any.
cheers
- --
Andy Vousden OPERATIONS TEAM 322 Regents Park Road,
andyv@demon.net 42a Hendon Lane,
andy@wonderland.org Finchley, London.
http://www.demon.net/ (+44)01813711000
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Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 16:20:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael
McDonough@world.std.com, dmcflyer@msn.com Subject: DML: Stolen Parts
Alert
As a result of the ongoing Divorce Wars, Specialty Automotive has recently
experienced the theft of the following DeLorean parts and memorabilia: 5 left
front fenders (1 new; 1 good used; 3 repaired); large black banner; original
DMC, very rare; case of BTTF 12" toy cars; BTTF model set, unopened; radio
control toy car; misc. books and other collectibles as well as other parts.
If you have been offered or purchased such pieces from Washington State,
please contact me immediately. A reward is available for information leading
to recovery and /or prosecution of the seller (not the buyer).
Darryl Tinnerstet
P.O. Box 11323
Olympia, WA 98508
PH: 360-786-0243
FAX 360-705-2246
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Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 16:21:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Gowler-
CFPO01@world.std.com, Don_Gowler-CFPO01@email.mot.com Subject:
DML: TECH SESSION - MIDWEST CONNECTION
Just a last minute reminder to all of the DeLorean Midwest Connection
members
that our technical session is being held tomorrow the 17th of May at the
Waubonsee Valley High School in Aurora, Illinois from 9:00am to 5:00pm.
Don Steger of DeLorean Motor Center / California will be our host mechanic
as
always and we will also be receiving the able assistance of Dave Donaldson,
our
Tech Director, and Mike Carollo, past Tech director. Call dave at (630) 629-
3839 if your planning on going and haven't already advised him.
Regards, The Silver Fox - (Don Gowler) (847) 435-3733
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Date: Thu, 15 May 97 22:32:31 -0600
From: David Swingle Subject: DML: Coolant
Draining
Mpeak@aol.com WROTE
>Subject: Various responses
>[snip]
>David Swingle: I think the best way to drain the coolant is, like
you >said,
>by removing the coolant hose attached to the radiator on the
passenger >side.>The coolant will not completely drain out of all the pipes if
it is drained
>from the engine plug since this is not one of the lowest points in
the >cooling system.
But it is the lowest point in the engine. I'd rather do both. On any car I've
had, pulling the block drain(s) after draining the radiator always dumps
another gallon or so of coolant. The coolant hoses are connected to the engine
relatively high up, so by draining the system only at the radiator you still end
up with an engine block full of old coolant. One block drain is located just
above the oil pressure sender on the passenger side, but the one on the left is
cleverly hidden behind the catalytic converter. I don't plan to remove the
converter for THAT, but draining half the engine is better than not.
>From: Mike Substelny WROTE
>Subject: Tool requirementss? What tool requirements? > Could you be more
specific, Dave? I have changed my own >oil and
coolant, but I never needed any special tools. What >did you need?
>- -Mike Substelny
AND
>From: "Michael E. Gaines" >Subject: Special
tools
>This Snap-On part I had to get from Rob Grady. It's an 8mm square
male >ratchet. I had a tough time finding it too. Auto parts places would
>look at me quizzically. "Square bolt? You sure it's not stripped?". >Yeah...a
bolt that's stripped perfectly square :P.
Rob was also the one who graciously pointed me to Snap-on since he was out
of them. The funny part about this was that I had just chased down an Snap-
on Truck on the street and the guy gave me same reaction that you received.
Snap-on Corp sold me the tool on a phone order, the only drawback to this
was that their minimum shipping charge was almost as much as the socket,
then they shipped it UPS regular.
This same 8mm male socket is the oil drain and coolant drain. The manual
trans drain is a 10 mm female socket
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Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 08:29:32 +0000
From: James Nichols Subject: DML: DMC FOR
SALE
I found this ad in the Dallas Morning News, if anyone is interested . The
telephone number indicates that it is on the Fort Worth side of Dallas.
Jim #6884
1981 Delorean: 33K, good cond. needs a/c work, ask $12,500. 817-447-6035
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Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 20:31:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Phillip124@aol.com
Subject: DML: Where do you live?
I am thinking about going to Greenville for a wedding in June. I was
wondering how close to Dallas or Greenville you lived. I would like to see
your car. The vin numbers of our Deloreans are so close that yours could
have been assembled just before mine. I think I would fly down. I live in
Amarillo, Texas.
Phillip
Vin# 7134
MODERATOR'S NOTE: It would be hbelpful if message of this type were sent
directly to the person you are referring to. Since I have no clue who you are
referring to, I am posting this.
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Date: Fri, 16 May 97 08:01:16 -0000
From: James Espey
Subject: DML: DeLorean Owners Directory
As of this AM, the DeLorean Owners Directory (DOD) has 62 entries from the
United States, Canada, Germany, Japan, Puerto Rico and the Netherlands. I
will be posting the "latest and greatest" on Tuesday, May 20th. Please visit this
URL to be listed...
http://www.dmcnews.com/directory.html
If you cannot access this URL, or your browser does not support forms, please
send a note to:
directory@dmcnews.com
and I will email you the necessary information so that you can be listed.
Thanks!
James Espey
Vacationing Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List http://www.dmcnews.com/
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Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 11:22:12 -0400
From: "BLAZERSD"
Subject: DML: Re: DML DMC FOR SALE
Whereabouts is the Delorean that you have for sale. I am on the east coast in
New England.
Thanks for your time,
Saul Davidson
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>From: Trepkose13@aol.com
>To: dmcnews-digest@world.std.com
>Subject: DML DMC FOR SALE
>Date: Thursday, May 15, 1997 5:53 PM >
>Sorry to say that I am going to have to sell my DMC. It is a 1981 >
with 23K original miles. The body and interior look brand new.
VVarious updates and extras. 5 speed with grey interior. Always
covered\garaged. Asking $18,500. E-Mail me for more information.
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Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 11:18:00 -0500
From: Don Gowler-CFPO01 Subject:
DML: TECH SESSION - MIDWEST CONNECTION
Just a last minute reminder to all of the DeLorean Midwest Connection
members that our technical session is being held tomorrow the 17th of May at
the Waubonsee Valley High School in Aurora, Illinois from 9:00am to
5:00pm.
Don Steger of DeLorean Motor Center / California will be our host mechanic
as always and we will also be receiving the able assistance of Dave Donaldson,
our
Tech Director, and Mike Carollo, past Tech director. Call dave at (630) 629-
3839 if your planning on going and haven't already advised him.
Regards, The Silver Fox - (Don Gowler) (847) 435-3733
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Date: Fri, 16 May 97 09:38:28 -0000
From: James Espey
Subject: DML: 81, 82 and 83 Chronology UPDATE
As of this morning, there are 103 cars in the list. If you own a car, have a
friend with one, know of one in a junkyard or museum, please try and obtain
the build data for me. If you want, you can just forward me the name/contact
info for the owner and I will contact them personally.
Thanks!
James
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1981 DeLorean Production Chronology (65) - ----------------------------------------------
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00500 Mar 81 Crawford Automotive Museum (Ohio), black, 5 speed 00577 Mar
81 Scott Sykes (New Jersey), black, 5-speed 00897 Mar 81 Nick Kemp
(Minnesota), black, 5 speed 00938 Apr 81 Osamu Shimohara (Japan), black, 5-
speed 01028 Apr 81 George Ford (North Carolina), black, 5 speed 01042 Apr 81
Billy Runyan (Illinois), black, 5 speed 01049 Apr 81 Web Bixby (Missouri),
black, 5 speed 01141 Apr 81 WITHHOLD NAME (California), black, 5 speed
(no build plate on car-salvage)
01149 Apr 81 Don Gowler (Illinois), black, automatic 01280 May 81 Mike
Substelny (Ohio), black, 5 speed 01329 May 81 Ken Knowlton (Ohio), black,
automatic 01387 May 81 Mike Hirko (Washington), black, 5 speed 01482 May
81 Tom Long (Georgia), black, 5 speed 01523 May 81 Scott Ciszek (Virginia),
black, 5 speed 01529 May 81 Chase Clark (Missouri), black, 5-speed 01604 Jun 81
Scott Engelhart (Wisconsin), black, 5-speed 01606 Jun 81 Ralph Sandstrom
(Illinois), black, 5 speed 02135 Jul 81 Mike Griese (Minnesota), black, 5 speed
02191 Jul 81 Steve Klein (New York), black, automatic 02200 Jul 81 Dave Olson
(Washington), black, automatic 02255 Jul 81 Markus Gunkel (Germany), black,
5 speed 02273 Jul 81 Jameel Ahed (Illinois), black, 5-speed 02320 Jul 81 Richard
Strecker (Ohio), black, 5 speed 02541 Aug 81 Mike Allsun (New Hampshire),
black, 5 speed 02781 Aug 81 Bob Benyon (Rhode Island), black, auto 02860 Aug
81 Chris Rabalais (Arizona), black, 5 speed 02981 Aug 81 Scott Mueller
(California), grey, 5-speed 03014 Aug 81 Charlie Sens' Antique Auto Museum
(Ohio), grey 03153 Aug 81 Ray Haug (California), Grey, 5 speed 03156 Aug 81
Riteway Auto Parts (Arizona) TOTALLED 03472 Aug 81 Michael Babb (North
Carolina), grey, 5 speed 03476 Aug 81 Joel Matos (Puerto Rico), grey, 5 speed
03583 Sep 81 Bob Benyon (Rhode Island), black, auto 03864 Sep 81
WITHHOLD NAME (California), black, 5-speed 03886 Sep 81 Bob Kidd (Ohio),
black, 5-speed 04155 Sep 81 Guy Boutet (Quebec), black, 5 speed 04181 Sep 81
Frank Augustine (Illinois), black, 5-speed 04428 Oct 81 Matt Peak (California),
grey, 5-speed 04556 Oct 81 Vincent Voss (Alaska), grey, 5 speed 04797 Oct 81
Dennis Lowery (Virginia), grey, automatic 04883 Oct 81 Garry Hewitt (United
Kingdom), grey, 5 speed 05203 Oct 81 Jason Winter (Texas), grey, 5 speed 05319
Oct 81 Bill Burden (Alabama), grey, 5 speed 05429 Oct 81 David Swingle
(Illinois), grey, 5 speed 05501 Oct 81 Randal Brown (Minnesota), grey, manual
05832 Oct 81 Jim Senft (Maryland), grey, 5 speed 05922 Oct 81 Frederick
Embden (New York) 05962 Oct 81 Murray Fisher (Washington), grey,
automatic 06097 ??? 81 Gabe Rexach (Florida), grey, 5 speed 06221 Nov 81
George Ford (North Carolina) TOTALLED 06247 Nov 81 Mike Novotny
(Pennsylvania, grey, 5 speed 06250 Nov 81 Dennis Listenberger (Indiana), grey,
automatic 06301 Nov 81 Chris Shepherd (Oregon), grey, 5 speed 06416 Nov 81
Jason Ross (Illinois), grey, 5 speed 06530 Nov 81 Dick Ryan (Colorado), grey,
auto 06569 Nov 81 Bruce Battles (Tennessee), grey, 5 speed 06581 Nov 81 Lars-
Goran Andersson (Sweden), grey, 5 speed 06600 Nov 81 Byrne Heninger
(Georgia), ???, 5 speed 06623 Nov 81 Dan Berglund (Washington), grey, 5
speed 06810 Nov 81 Kevin Wolter (Illinois), grey, 5-speed 06882 Nov 81 Raz
D'Angelo (Florida) grey, automatic 06884 Nov 81 James Nichols Sr (Texas),
grey, 5 speed 06938 Nov 81 Bruce Benson (Minnesota), grey, 5 speed 07134
Nov 81 Phillip Pratt (Texas), grey, 5 speed
1982 DeLorean Production Chronology (17) - ----------------------------------------------
-
10059 ??? 81 WITHHOLD NAME (California)
10209 Dec 81 Ron and Margaret Jackson (Arizona) 10213 Dec 81 Michael
Gaines (New Jersey), grey, 5 speed 10251 Dec 81 Eddy Cue (California), grey, 5
speed 10410 Dec 81 Tom Ghesquiere (Texas), grey, 5 speed 10570 Dec 81 James
Espey (Arizona), grey, 5 speed 10574 Dec 81 Dennis Adams (Wisconsin), grey,
5-speed 10607 Dec 81 Tony Swiantek (Illinois), grey, automatic 10675 Dec 81
Marty Maier (Illinois), grey, 5 speed 10688 Dec 81 Steve Brodsky (Texas), grey,
5-speed 10696 Dec 81 DeLorean Motor Company (Texas) 10788 Dec 81 Don
Gowler (Illinois), grey, 5 speed 11060 Jan 81 Rob Hook (Virginia) grey, 5 speed
11152 Jan 82 Trinity M. Barbuto (Massachusetts) 11529 Jan 82 Bryan Pearce
(Illinois)
11554 Jan 82 Aaron Mills (Michigan)
11594 Jan 82 David Olson (Wisconsin), black, 5-speed
1983 DeLorean Production Chronology (21) - ----------------------------------------------
15244 Aug 82 Byrne Heninger (Georgia), black, 5 speed 15275 Aug 82 David
Hudgins (Maryland), grey, 5 speed 15880 Aug 82 Doug Venner (New Jersey),
grey, 5-speed 16000 Aug 82 Marv Sterling (New York), grey, 5-speed 16344 Aug
82 Knut Grimsrud (Oregon), grey, 5-speed 16348 Aug 82 Ray Haug (California),
grey, automatic 16353 Aug 82 Randy Atamaniuk (Canada), grey, 5 speed 16381
Aug 82 Michael Reinemuth (Heidelberg / Germany) 16422 Aug 82 Ray
Petragallo (California). grey, 5 speed 16684 Aug 82 Ken Koncelik (Ohio), black,
5 speed 16693 Aug 82 Dave Kaplan (???), black, automatic 16873 Aug 82 Jeffrey
Altman (Florida), grey, 5 -speed 16900 Aug 82 Jay Steinberg (Illinois), grey, 5-
speed 17006 Sep 82 Virginia Hodges (Maryland), grey, automatic 17015 Sep 82
Robert S. Rodgers (New Jersey), black, 5-speed 17065 Sep 82 Eric Hennebury
(Toronto), grey, 5-speed 17106 Sep 82 Michael Fischer (Calgary) grey, 5-speed
17115 ??? 82 WITHHOLD NAME (Netherlands), grey, 5 speed 20040 ??? 82
Charlie Sens' Antique Auto Museum (OH), grey 20095 Dec 82 WITHHOLD
NAME (New Jersey), grey, 5-speed (10th from last made) 20103 Dec 82 Michael
Stark (Illinois), grey, 5 speed
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Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 04:07:53 +0200
From: "Jos Candel"
Subject: DML: Lost keys
Who knows the manufacturer of the door locks ? Need new ones as well as
an ignition keylock.
KR Jos Candel
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Date: Fri, 16 May 97 09:28:00 PDT
From: Knut S Grimsrud Subject:
DML: Reminder, Oregon DMC enthusiast event
Just a reminder that the DeLorean enthusiasts in the Oregon and southern
Washington area are getting together on Sunday for a tour of the Mt. St.
Helens national monument. Event information can be found in the Club
section of the DeLorean FAQ or contact me for more details.
Knut Grimsrud
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Date: Sat, 17 May 97 12:34:28 UT
From: "Scott Mueller" Subject: DML:
Starting Problems/Oil Plug Wrench
Steve wrote:
Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 00:05:24 -0500
From: Steve Brodsky Subject: starting problems
is it my imagination or does there appear to be a significant number of
instances of starting/running problems suddenly cropping up? Given that all
the cars are about the same age, I'd look for a common denominator that may
be age related. Warren at DMC had the best idea I've heard yet when I spoke
with him. Check the inlet hose on the fuel pump in the tank. Age and/or
new gas formulations can cause it to deteriorate and cause loss of suction. I've
had cases with mechanical fuel pumps where the layers of a hose seperated
internally. The gas under pressure pumped between the layers of rubber
causing a restriction in the hose. I'm going to try it this weekend myself.
Steve Brodsky #10688
Steve, you may be on the right track with the collapsed fuel pump suction
hose.
When I was in Monterey, my 1981 just stop running. It turned out that the
suction line had collapsed.
This hose had been in actual service for approximately 1 year, I purchased it
two years ago from DeLorean One,
along with a fuel pump ect...
The return line hose, which is in the same environment, and which has fuel
flowing through it at a much higher
velocity was still in perfect condition. I will concede that the fuel we have
today will attack some of the more
common materials, but it seems to me that if the suction line was reinforced
and made from the same material as the
return line, there would be no problem.
Scott Mueller #2981
OIL PLUG WRENCH
Dave Swingle said:
>"I've also been unpleasantly surprised about tool requirements. It took me
some digging around and a call to Snap-On to get the tool required to drain
the oil and anti-freeze."
I made my tool, just go to the hardware store and buy a piece of square bar
stock slightly larger than the socket head plug.
Grind the end to fit, then bend it 90 deg, like an allen wrench.
Worked great for me and cost about $0.50
SCOTT MUELLER #2981
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Date: Sun, 18 May 97 22:54:11 -0600
From: David Swingle Subject: DML: Coolant Drain
Plugs
I changed the coolant today, and contrary to my earlier statement was able to
remove both the left and right block drain plugs. The one on the left side is
visible only from position near the left tailpipe. Both sides together dumped
out over a gallon of coolant AFTER the radiator had been drained.
A couple of hints on this - the tool is the same 8mm male square socket you
need for the oil drain plug. It must be a socket since you need to use a 10"
extension on the left side. This plug also use the same copper o-ring as the oil
drain plug, so be prepared (say "82 Volvo" at the parts store - 16mm copper
gasket). Get extras. The biggest pain of the job is retrieving the plug on the left
side after you drop it behind the catalytic converter-Careful! I also have to
agree with whoever it was (Chase?) that posted a while back regarding the
capacity - the manuals state 2.9 US gallons, but I was able to put in about four.
The manual must have meant Imperial gallons.
Dave Swingle
dswingle@enteract.com
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