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Friday, May 15 1998 Volume 03 : Number 365
In this issue:
Re: DML: RE: Re: hello
DML: Get Out and Vote
Re: DML: Tires
DML: rough idle
DML: DMC for sale
DML: Shop Manual for Sale
DML: One thing after another....
DML: Re: Tires
Re: DML: RE: History Channel : Greatest Sports Car ever
DML: WASHER BOTTLE NEEDED
DML: [Fwd: Bloomberg Delorean article]
DML: Vote for the Delorean!!!
DML: HC: Greatest Sports Car ever UPDATE
DML: Ed in Chicago Suburbs
DML: Champagne British Car Festival (fwd)
Re: DML: Exhaust manifold rebuild
DML: New "DeLorean" biography in development
DML: History Channel poll
DML: Re: Lower door trim
DML: Re: rough idle
RE: DML: RE: Re: hello
DML: voice feedback..
Re: DML: RE: Re: hello
DML: Part Request: Lens
DML: RE: [Fwd: Bloomberg DeLorean article]
Re: DML: Re: Tires
DML: DeLoreans autograph / bloomberg article
Re: DML: rough idle
DML: Inertia switches
DML: Bloomberg DeLorean article PNDC
DML: "Delorean cuts another deal...."
Re: DML: "Delorean cuts another deal...."
Re: DML: Exhaust manifold rebuild
Re: DML: "Delorean cuts another deal...."
DML: RE: Bloomberg DeLorean article PNDC
DML: TNN carshow
Re: DML: FS: '81, 5-speed, 35.8k miles
DML: Biloxi, MS meeting
DML: Top Ten clues you're a DeLorean fanatic...
DML: The DeLorean Motor Club
DML: Re: The DeLorean Motor Club
DML: Re: TNN cartoon
DML: Re: vin 16000 '83 for sale
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 17:55:53 -0600 (MDT)
From: raddad(AT)cmn.net
Subject: Re: DML: RE: Re: hello
I, too, have been most appreciative of the info provided by Joe and Bob.
I
have never interpreted their postings as anything other than helpful
dissemination of information. I hope they keep up their submissions and
that James continues to post them.
Dick Ryan
VIN 16867
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 19:09:03 -0500
From: scottmueller(AT)zebra.net (Scott Mueller)
Subject: DML: Get Out and Vote
I just voted for my favorite sports car.
Be a true dedicated owner and placve your vote for the DeLorean as the
Greatest Sports Car ever built.
Go to the History channel and be heard, perhapes we will be the ones to
get them to do a documentary about John DeLorean and our DeLorean's.
http://www.historychannel.com
I'll get off of the stump now.
Scott Mueller
2981
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 17:52:07 -0600 (MDT)
From: raddad(AT)cmn.net
Subject: Re: DML: Tires
Like so many others on this list I have Yokohama's. Whether you go for
the
AVS or the A/378 I think you will be quite satisfied as to ride, handling,
wear and lack of noise.
Dick Ryan
VIN 16867
- -----------------------
>Looking to purchase a good set of tires all for the Delorean.
>
>I drive my Delorean every day and in all weather, especially in the rain.
>
>Any recommendations?
>
>Kayo Ong
>#05508
>Lic 9D NY
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 22:08:47 -0500
From: "C. Longwisch"
Subject: DML: rough idle
Having just completed my winter DeLorean project of engine gaskets , it
now idles rough and "appears" to be running rich at idle. Lambda
sensor,wires, distributor cap, rotor, plugs were all replaced. It revs and
runs smooth on the road.
Also, has anyone worked on the guts of the fuel tank sensor? My electric's
work fine when I remove it from the tank but the float, which moves freely
on the slide, does not go to the top when submerged in gasoline. There is
no part breakdown in the books. Any ideas?
Cecil Longwisch
DMC1982
VIN# 10663
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 15:24:56 PDT
From: "Edward Raffenetti"
Subject: DML: DMC for sale
I recently spotted VIN #15314 for sale in front of a moving truck rental
place on Ogden Avenue in Downers Grove, Illinois.
- -25275 miles
- -Manual transmission
- -Stainless (minor scratches)
- -Grey interior (cracked)
- -Flat hood (no style lines)
- -DeLorean emblem on hood
- -No gas flap
- -Grill Logo
Owner is asking $14,900 or best offer. Call 847-803-0226. Looks to be in
good condition, but showing age. I would buy this car but I am not in a
position to at this time. Feel free to contact me if you need directions
here in the Chicago suburbs.
- -Ed Raffenetti, 18-year-old DeLorean Enthusiast
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Date: Mon, 11 May 98 14:57:00 PDT
From: "Kelo, Dan"
Subject: DML: Shop Manual for Sale
I have an old DeLorean shop manual for sale. I used to work
at a dealership which sold these cars, and my old boss gave
me this manual over ten years ago. I have no use for it.
It is an almost 2" thick book of single-sided pages loosely bound
between two worn black covers. It looks like a photocopy, but I
can verify that this is exactly as the manual came to our dealership
from the factory.
I will accept the best offer over $20, and the buyer will have to pay
for shipping from southern California.
Thanks very much.
Dan
dkelo(AT)pepperdine.edu
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 22:35:41 -0500
From: "Tim Hansen"
Subject: DML: One thing after another....
Finally got #4761 back from having some electrical work done (turned out
to
be bad battery terminals), take it out for a drive this morning, and all
of
a sudden there's a thunk and the engine is much louder.
I think the left-side exhaust manifold came loose.
Now, how do I fix this?
Can I just tighten a bolt or two and be OK?
Tim Hansen
thansen(AT)pensys.com
P.S., this car is still for sale at $15,500. Any repairs necesary will be
taken care of prior to sale.
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 22:42:45 -0400
From: "Joe "
Subject: DML: Re: Tires
Kayo,
If you have done any shopping around you may have noticed there are not
many choices on a matched set of tires for the DeLorean. The front 195's
are plentiful, its the rear 235's that are hard to find. My pick for ride,
availability, and price would be the Yokohama A-378 or AVS U+4. Keep in
mind that the DeLorean has a precision suspension system with very little
room for miss-alignment. Buy your tires at the best price you can find but
don't skimp on alignment. Insist on a shop that does "on the car
balancing", it may cost a few dollars more but will be worth it in
derivability and reduced tire wear.
Joe/DeLorean Services
- ----------
> From: Kayo Ong
> To: DMC News
> Subject: DML: Tires
> Date: Monday, May 11, 1998 1:24 PM
>
> Looking to purchase a good set of tires all for the Delorean.
>
> I drive my Delorean every day and in all weather, especially in the rain.
>
> Any recommendations?
>
> Kayo Ong
> #05508
> Lic 9D NY
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 20:30:07 -0700
From: Amanda Johnson
Subject: Re: DML: RE: History Channel : Greatest Sports Car ever
Hi ya'll! I know I haven't posted anything yet, but I went to the
History Channel site and I voted for the DeLorean and so did my sister.
Maybe if we keep posting for the DMC-12, they will put it on the air.
Everyone knows it deserves credit!!
Amanda Johnson
delorean(AT)iamerica.net OR jenna_dmc12(AT)yahoo.com
> > ----------
> > From: ABatt10347
> > Reply To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com
> > Sent: Saturday, May 9, 1998 1:04 PM
> > To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com
> > Subject: DML: History Channel : Greatest Sports Car ever
> >
> > Fellow DMCer's,
> > The History Channel is taking a poll, (during the month of June they
> > will
> > have
> > programs on the greats sports cars ever), and while our car (Delorean)
> > is
> > not
> > in their poll, they do have a web site for voting. Go to
> > http://www.historychannel.com and vote. The Delorean is not on the
> > list
> > but
> > there is a place for adding your comments. Maybe if enough people draw
> > attention to our car we can get it added to the list. See you in
> > Ohio.................................
> > Bruce Battles
> > Vin # 6569
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 12:36:34 EDT
From: CARSNOOPER
Subject: DML: WASHER BOTTLE NEEDED
DEAR DMC people,
I need a used or new WASHER BOTTLE with cap for DMC. Anyone???
Thanks,
dg
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 09:46:46 -0500
From: Jordan Gary
Subject: DML: [Fwd: Bloomberg Delorean article]
The March Bloomberg magazine article has now been posted to the
Bloomberg web site. I am enclosing the address. It is a nice article
by a fellow DMC owner. Jordan Gary vin 0794
www.bloomberg.com/mag/ft-9805-delorean.html
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 10:02:25 CDT
From: "Edward Pryor"
Subject: DML: Vote for the Delorean!!!
I voted for the Delorean yesterday at the history channel site. I
think that it is your duty to vote if you are registered on the Delorean
mailing list. If everyone voted it would be great for the Delorean, and
it would give the car a great chance of being the worlds greatest sports
car. So be sure to cast your vote today!!!
P.S. Fellow DMCer's its our duty to give the Delorean a chance to be the
greatest sports car.
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 14:25:25 -0400
From: "Yocom, Shannon"
Subject: DML: HC: Greatest Sports Car ever UPDATE
Great responces! Now we are 53 DMC's to the only thing close, (26)
Porsche 414.
It would be great if majority wins. This also shows the History Channel
that the DeLorean has a large following. Maybe even enough to do a
documentary.
Also thanks to Brian Henderlong for defending the post by M. O'Brien
saying the DMC was a piece of junk.
Do your wives & husbands like them, how about friends? Tell them where
to vote (for the DeLorean).
Shannon
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 08:07:29 -0500
From: Gowler Don-CFPO01
Subject: DML: Ed in Chicago Suburbs
Ed, please give me a call.
Don Gowler
President
DeLorean Midwest Connection
(847) 435-3733
>----------
>From: Edward Raffenetti
>Reply To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com
>Sent: Monday, May 11, 1998 10:24 PM
>To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com
>Subject: DML: DMC for sale
>
>I recently spotted VIN #15314 for sale in front of a moving truck rental
>place on Ogden Avenue in Downers Grove, Illinois.
>
>-25275 miles
>-Manual transmission
>-Stainless (minor scratches)
>-Grey interior (cracked)
>-Flat hood (no style lines)
>-DeLorean emblem on hood
>-No gas flap
>-Grill Logo
>
>Owner is asking $14,900 or best offer. Call 847-803-0226. Looks to be in
>good condition, but showing age. I would buy this car but I am not in a
>position to at this time. Feel free to contact me if you need directions
>here in the Chicago suburbs.
>
>-Ed Raffenetti, 18-year-old DeLorean Enthusiast
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 08:09:27 -0500 (CDT)
From: Gregory Petrolati
Subject: DML: Champagne British Car Festival (fwd)
The Central Illinois Triumph Owners Association & The Prairie
Octagon MG Club proudly announces the seventh annual Champagne
British Car Festival held in Urbana-Champaign Illinois,
May 22-24 1998.
Our festival is a 3 day event with activities for enthusiasts and
their families including:
A murder mystery, Walking rallye, Funkhana, High tea, Driving tour
Pub crawl (in a genuine British double decker bus), raffles, door
prizes,and participant's choice car show (just to name a few)...
For our brochure send me your "Snail-Mail" address.
Or check ourWeb site:
www.prairienet.org/community/clubs/cbcf/homepage.html
In observation of our 7th annual festival, activities will have a
"Bond-James-Bond" theme and honor Lotus as our featured marque
(the favored ride of discriminating spies everywhere)...
Never say never... Join us here!
Greg Petrolati - Phone (217) 355-1944
gpetrola(AT)prairienet.org 1962 TR4 (CT4852L)
"That's not a leak... My car is just marking its territory!"
Greg Petrolati, Champaign, Illinois
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 10:36:28 +0000
From: James Nichols
Subject: Re: DML: Exhaust manifold rebuild
James Hamilton wrote:
> snip.... Anyway I noticed I have two posts missing on the right
> manifold. My question is this. There are two unused holes per cylinder
> that are tapped but have no posts. The existing manifold does not makes
> use of these holes.... snip.... How do you remove the posts?
> One last question. The condition of the exhaust manifolds are typical of a
>
> car this age (rusty). When I replace them I would like to make them better.
>
> You know so they wont rust. Is there a better manifold I could install or
>
> can you chrome them or something? Thanks Jim.
Jim,
The posts that you refer to are studs, double ended bolts which often have
different threads at either end, course on one end and fine on the other.
Some have the same on both ends. They are threaded into the head and and
since the head is aluminum and the stud is steel, they are often very
difficult to remove especially if you break one off. It could mean
removing
the head and drilling it out. If you have ever tried to drill out a steel
bolt in a piece of aluminum, you know that it's very easy to get into the
aluminum and have to re-center the hole and install a hilicoil, probably a
machine shop job on a head.
The PRV engine was designed to be used in several different cars with as
many
different manifolds. The extra tapped holes in the head are for other
installations and are not used for the Delorean manifold.
Studs are normally removed by putting two nuts as far down as they will
go,
locking the two by turning them in opposite directions, and turning the
bottom nut to remove the stud.
Exhaust manifolds are never very pretty even of they have been chromed
after
a few months' use. The only ones that look good after a few years use are
the ones in boats that use a water jacket to keep them cool. Fortunately
the
manifolds on the Delorean are far enough down so you can hardly see them
unless you crawl under the car.
If you don't have a cracked manifold or a leaky gasket, don't make a
problem
for yourself. The old saying applies here, "If it ain't broke, don't fix
it."
Jim
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 13:21:38 -0500
From: "time(AT)traveller.com"
Subject: DML: New "DeLorean" biography in development
Thought everyone would be interested in this. I just found a press
released
posted on AOL by Warner Bros. on May 1, 1998 about one of their upcoming
movies, which contains background information on cast & crew of that
movie.
Therein, contains a brief blurb about a new biograpy entitled "DeLorean"
that is in development for a production company at Paramount Studios.
Below
is the actual text:
<>
I've searched the Internet Movie Database (us.imdb.com) and several movie
databases I subscribe to, including "In Hollywood" (www.inhollywood.com)
and
"Baseline II" (www.pkbaseline.com), but so far, none of the databases have
any production information listed yet. Usually, it takes several weeks or
even months for new projects to appear in these databases, but as soon as
I
learn any information on the project, I'll post it to the list. If anyone
else has information or other movie database suggestions on where to look,
please contact me.
Also, for those interested, there will be a live chat this Friday evening
at
8:30PM EDT in our chatroom (www.bttf.com/chat.htm) with Steven Kirk at
Universal Studios, who will update fans on the progress of our proposed
"FutureFest '98" BTTF Convention this Labor Day weekend, the same time as
D.O.A.'s DeLorean Expo '98.
To Be Continued...
Stephen M. Clark, Fan Club Representative
Back to the Future=99...The Fan Club
P.O. Box 880
Athens, AL 35612-0880 U.S.A.
Phone/Fax: (256) 230-6288
E-mail: time(AT)traveller.com
Web Site: http://www.bttf.com/
_________________________________________________________________________
"FutureFest '98" -- Hill Valley's first BTTF Convention is coming!
http://www.bttf.com/futurefest/
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 19:22:18 EDT
From: ABatt10347
Subject: DML: History Channel poll
Fellow DMCer's,
Way to go!!! At last count ( Tuesday PM) ,with 144 total votes cast. We
have
61 votes for the Delorean!!! They may not include us in the tv special,
but
they now do know that we are out there. Thank you to everyone who voted.
If
you have not please add your input at www.historychannel.com.
Bruce Battles
Vin# 6569
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 18:56:24 -0400
From: "Joe "
Subject: DML: Re: Lower door trim
Dave,
There is, "believe it or not", a relatively straight foreword way to do
it.
Check out DeLorean World No. 19, Summer 88 P-35, except for under exposed
pictures, it will take you through all the proper steps. If you still have
problems give me a call.
Joe/DeLorean Services
- ----------
> From: Dave Price
> To: DML
> Subject: DML: Lower door trim
> Date: Monday, May 11, 1998 2:34 PM
>
> Can someone please describe the proper way to remove and re-attatch the
> lower door trim? I managed to muscle the trim off (I removed one of the
> impossible-to-reach pull-handle screws, and pulled the trim off with the
> handle still screwed in on the other side), but now I see no way to get it
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 18:12:47 -0400
From: "Joe "
Subject: DML: Re: rough idle
Cecil,
Before I make any comments let me ask you this: Is the rough running
condition constant from cold "start up" through operating temperature, or
does it vary through the warm up cycle.
As for your fuel sender save yourself a lot of hassle throw it the trash
and purchase the "Tankzilla". I have installed many of these units. They
are well built, metal as opposed to plastic, are easy to install, and
perform better than the original.
Joe/DeLorean Services
- ----------
> From: C. Longwisch
> To: DMC News
> Subject: DML: rough idle
> Date: Monday, May 11, 1998 11:08 PM
>
> Having just completed my winter DeLorean project of engine gaskets , it
> now idles rough and "appears" to be running rich at idle. Lambda
> sensor,wires, distributor cap, rotor, plugs were all replaced. It revsand
> runs smooth on the road.
>
> Also, has anyone worked on the guts of the fuel tank sensor? My electric's
> work fine when I remove it from the tank but the float, which moves freely
> on the slide, does not go to the top when submerged in gasoline. There is
> no part breakdown in the books. Any ideas?
>
> Cecil Longwisch
> DMC1982
> VIN# 10663
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 12:59:47 -0700
From: Gary Hull
Subject: RE: DML: RE: Re: hello
Just to clarify my comments on this list becoming a daily advertisement
or
bragging page.
I was on the verge of dropping off the list because I was tired of
hearing
from or about You-Know-Who. But since I value this list very much, and I
didn't want to lose it as a resource, I stated my gripe.
My concern is over postings from businesses or organizations. I have
seen
three very valuable lists die because people began *branding* their
comments. The members got tired of competitive and commercial nature
that
this added, and the lists dried up.
There is a fine line between posting to lists as an organization, and the
standard practice of just putting your organization's name at the end of
the message. When that line is crossed, the list becomes commercialized.
I would have the same concerns if I got daily e-mail from Stephen/DMC
Houston in reply to postings on the list.
Maybe I'm just overly sensitized, but I don't want history to repeat
itself
with this list.
I have always felt that James does an excellent job as moderator.
Gary Hull
IN2TIME
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 19:36:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: max headroom <_designer_(AT)yahoo.com>
Subject: DML: voice feedback..
> I had a '81 Nissan (Datsun) 280ZX that talked. ('Your door is
ajar',' =
> lights are on', ect.) These cars are common in junkyards and you
should =
> be able to get the voice box and accessories fairly cheap. =20
>
>
If anyone has/can get one of these...e-mail me. Thank you!
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 22:43:34 -0400
From: Marc A Levy
Subject: Re: DML: RE: Re: hello
I don't think that line has been crossed.
Most active members of the DML post some questions, some answers, and
some opinions. Joe and Bob have posted mostly, if not all, answers and
opinions. by having a signature line with their organization, they are
advertising their business, but who cares?!
A year or so ago, when James went on his quest to increase the number of
DML members, I was not happy about it because my past experiences with
other list's is that the potential for information is not valuable
enough to go through the load's of bulls**t, and noise. Well, here we
are with 900+ users (according to the DML web site) and... Well.... I
was wrong.
If a organization, or business is operating in the interest of Delorean
owners (and making a living at it) then I don't see a problem with them
promoting their products and services as it relates to a specific topic
of discussion. James have been doing a great job of filtering the
garbage, and as long as his commitment to the DML continues the
information will remain relevant.
I don't think your concerns are ridiculous, but considering the
circumstances I don't think we have anything to worry about!
Gary Hull wrote:
> There is a fine line between posting to lists as an organization, and the
> standard practice of just putting your organization's name at the end of
> the message. When that line is crossed, the list becomes commercialized.
> I would have the same concerns if I got daily e-mail from Stephen/DMC
> Houston in reply to postings on the list.
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 22:22:09 -0700
From: Daniel McGauley
Subject: DML: Part Request: Lens
I hope it's OK to request parts on the mailing list. I'm looking for a
new
Lens (#105848) for the instrument panel. The big guys don't have any
more.
- -Daniel McGauley
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 23:32:38 -0700
From: Gary Hull
Subject: DML: RE: [Fwd: Bloomberg DeLorean article]
The Bloomberg article is also on the new Pacific Northwest
DeLorean Club Website (with the permission of Bloomberg
magazine) at http://www.xynext.com/pndc/bloomberg.htm .
Also check out the rest of the site at http://www.xynext.com/pndc
and my personal favorite http://www.in2time.com
Home of the DeLorean Tow Truck!
Gary Hull
IN2TIME
http://in2time.com
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 16:37:03 -0700
From: "lseiler(AT)radiance.com"
Subject: Re: DML: Re: Tires
At 10:42 PM 5/11/98 -0400, you wrote:
......................Kayo,
>If you have done any shopping around you may have noticed there are not
>many choices on a matched set of tires for the DeLorean. The front 195's
>are plentiful, its the rear 235's that are hard to find. My pick for ride,
>availability, and price would be the Yokohama A-378 or AVS U+4. Keep in
>mind that the DeLorean has a precision suspension system with very little
>room for miss-alignment.................
reply:
Hi Kayo,
You can still get the Goodyear Eagle GT-II tires in both 195X14 & 235x15
from Goodyear. Black wall with black lettering are still available but the
Black wall with white lettering in the 235X15 are hard to find but still
can be found.
In case you want to do a search here is the information you need through
Goodyear:
Front P195/60R14 EAG GT II BSLRP 9 MBT/116-0220599
Rear P235/60R15 EAG GT II 98SERWL MBT/116-731-011
Fronts cost about $80 each, Rear $100 The price includes installation and
balancing.
These are what I got for my D. They are great, I just got home minutes ago
from a trip in the pouring rain. My D was solid as a rock on city streets
and the freeway.
Good Luck
Lee Seiler
81DMC-12
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 02:19:11 -0500
From: "Mark"
Subject: DML: DeLoreans autograph / bloomberg article
Hello Everyone,
I recently acquired 2 orginal DeLorean sales brochures that the
dealerships
had back in 81. The sales brochures are a black booklet with 8 pages, 2
of
the pages are able to fold out like a small poster.
I sent the 2 brochures to John Z. DeLorean in New Jersey about 10 days
ago
and asked him if he could sign them for me. I
also told him about my all original 81 which I have owned for the last 13
years. I thanked him for building a great car, a car that doesn't seem to
get older. I told him that my car still looks brand new and the body
style
is still very modern. Well, to my happy amazement! , today I received the
brochures back from him. He signed them for me . The first one, he wrote
"To Mark, with
best regards, John Z. DeLorean" the 2nd sales brochure he signed it "To
Mark, best wishes, John Z. DeLorean". Needless to say, I am very happy.
To me, Mr DeLorean is a true American entrepreneur and a man of great
vision.
Mark Mazzarella VIN 5262, 3000 original miles.
email : mazz(AT)revenue.com Florida
PS. The bloomberg website Delorean article is excellent. Check it out.
http://www.bloomberg.com/mag/ft_9805_delorean.html
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 16:00:49 -0700
From: "lseiler(AT)radiance.com"
Subject: Re: DML: rough idle
At 10:08 PM 5/11/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Having just completed my winter DeLorean project of engine gaskets , it
>now idles rough and "appears" to be running rich at idle. Lambda
>sensor,wires, distributor cap, rotor, plugs were all replaced. It revs and
>runs smooth on the road.
>
>Also, has anyone worked on the guts of the fuel tank sensor? My electric's
>work fine when I remove it from the tank but the float, which moves freely
>on the slide, does not go to the top when submerged in gasoline. There is
>no part breakdown in the books. Any ideas?
>
>Cecil Longwisch
>DMC1982
>VIN# 10663
>
reply:
Hi Cecil,
I just finished fixing the very same problem! The chances are that your
gauge is probably OK, it's the actual sensor that is bad. My research
reveals that many of the originals were defective and need to be replaced.
I chose the TankZilla repair kit.
You can do all the work your self. It's really an easy fix. But before
you
do that check the grounding points for the front end electrical system.
Disassemble them and clean, even if they look OK. I found a good 50% of
apparent electrical problems have been corrosion of contacts, connectors
and grounding points.
In my case the float went all the way to the top of the sensor but the
gauge would read from about 3/4 full to about 1/2 full on a full tank.
Good Luck
Lee Seiler
81DMC-12
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 10:30:53 EDT
From: dmcnut(AT)juno.com (DeLorean Nut)
Subject: DML: Inertia switches
A friend found some inertia switches new in the packaging and is
wondering what a reasonable price to ask per piece would be. All are
labeled part # 10927.7 (I have not yet verified this with my manual but
will do so this afternoon and repost if this seems incorrect),
manufactured by Inertia Switch Ltd. Thanks!
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 15:50:27 -0700
From: Nathan Gess
Subject: DML: Bloomberg DeLorean article PNDC
DML,
If you go to http://www.xynext.com/pndc/bloomberg.htm to read the
Bloomberg article, it is a little messed up in the middle. It is out of
order and repeats itself. I didn't know who to contact, that's why I'm
posting this here.
Nathan Gess
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/7770/
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 10:24:20 -0400
From: Marc A Levy
Subject: DML: "Delorean cuts another deal...."
Article in the Newark Star-Ledger (Newark, New Jersey) there was a
article that John DeLorean has again agreed to sell his 434-acre estate
in Bedminster to pay of some debts.
A similar deal fell through last year due to local zoning restrictions
that did not allow him to subdivide (Yes, I am leaving ot details) for
his kids to have a Lifetime Lease on some parts of the property. The
kids will still have the lease, but it will be the new owners problem on
how to subdivide it.
Anyone got a few million?! Talk a about a DeLorean collectible! You
could even let John live there rent free!
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 20:04:16 EDT
From: Findme1999
Subject: Re: DML: "Delorean cuts another deal...."
hey i read an article from Sharon Pennsylvainia that said DeLorean only
had
4.5 million left to pay to his lawyers then he was in the clear
lucas kaelin
findme1999(AT)aol.com
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Date: Wed, 13 May 98 22:47:22 PDT
From: "Brandon S. Moody"
Subject: Re: DML: Exhaust manifold rebuild
> One last question. The condition of the exhaust manifolds are typical
of a
> car this age (rusty). When I replace them I would like to make them
better.
> You know so they wont rust. Is there a better manifold I could
install
or
> can you chrome them or something? Thanks Jim.
Its very typical. Even in new cars, your will see rust starting to
form.
Its just
hard, cast steel. And its nature is to rust. If it really bothers you
that much,
you can use an aluminum paint called POR-20. It works ok and last ok.
If you really want it to look nice, then you can remove the manifolds and
have them "Firecoated". A product know as FIRECOTE, is a ceramic
coating that can be applied to both the outside and inside of the
manifold.
Its said that doing the inside improves performance, but I don't know if
it
really is noticable or not. It looks great and can withstand temps up to
1300 degrees F. I used it on my Bricklin headers and have seen it used
on other cars. The delorean manifolds are really only visible from under
the
car so it never really bothered me all that much that they rust.
- -Brandon
bsmoody(AT)kih.net
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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 08:05:44 -0400
From: Marc A Levy
Subject: Re: DML: "Delorean cuts another deal...."
Yes. $4.5 Million to his lawyers, but this property sale is going
towards the $9 million he owed Merrill Lynch for mortgages on the
property.
Findme1999 wrote:
>
> hey i read an article from Sharon Pennsylvainia that said DeLorean only
> had
> 4.5 million left to pay to his lawyers then he was in the clear
>
> lucas kaelin
> findme1999(AT)aol.com
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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 09:50:55 -0700
From: Gary Hull
Subject: DML: RE: Bloomberg DeLorean article PNDC
Nathan Gess Said:
If you go to http://www.xynext.com/pndc/bloomberg.htm to read
the Bloomberg article, it is a little messed up in the middle. It
is out of order and repeats itself.
Reply:
Sorry for the inconvenience and thanks for the feedback.
The article did have some significant errors.
The version posted on the Bloomberg site also has
major errors.
The version at http://www.xynext.com/pndc/bloomberg.htm has
been corrected, with the possible exception of one line that I
had to do a little guessing on (my copy is poor). As soon as
I verify the words on the bottom of the last physical page,
(following "with a membership of more than") I can have it
updated in a few minutes.
Gary Hull
IN2TIME
ghull(AT)in2time.com
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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 15:09:54 -0500
From: steve r
Subject: DML: TNN carshow
Someone told me about a car show that was on TNN a few days ago. He
said he saw a DeLorean in in. Does anyone know anything else about
this? Bye the way, is it too late for me to still watch the DeLorean
episode of the simpsons?
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Date: Thu, 14 May 98 16:33:34 -0700
From: "M(AT)!"
Subject: Re: DML: FS: '81, 5-speed, 35.8k miles
My uncle is looking for a buyer for his '81 5-speed (35.8K). He lives
in Northern CA. The car is immaculate and runs great. If you're
interested, drop me an email and I'll give you his number so you can get
more details from him.
Matt Laun
splatt(AT)pobox.com
- ---------------------------------------------- splatt(AT)pobox.com
"People are funny little machines full of meat and juice" - M(AT)!
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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 15:16:19 -0500
From: steve r
Subject: DML: Biloxi, MS meeting
I am hoping that people are still hoping on attending my meeting
that has changed to May 23, 1998. I hope everyone will be able to make
it this time.
The meeting will still be held in Biloxi, and we will still be
gathering at Sicily's Pizza. If anyone in the state of Mississippi or
anywhere else would like to join us feel free to do so. Since we will
now be having a different day to meet I am requesting that all people
who plan on attending please send me a message again saying that you
will be there.
Again, I am very sorry that we did not meet the last time I had
planned to do so. It was very
disappointing to me when I heard that Scott Mueller wasn't going to be
able to make it for our last date. I am hoping that Mr. Scott and many
others will be able to make it out to Biloxi May 23.
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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 17:07:15 -0700
From: "Dave Price"
Subject: DML: Top Ten clues you're a DeLorean fanatic...
1. Your DeLorean is falling apart, but you can't
remember it working so wonderfully.
2. Your biggest fear is getting kicked off the
Delorean Mailing List.
3. You have a mental list of all the little fixes
you want to make "when you get the money".
4. You have excuses for all the derogatory remarks
made about DeLoreans.
5. You're constantly searching for a DeLorean for
sale, even though you have no plans, or no
means for buying it.
6. You have the phone numbers of your favorite
DMC parts supplier(s) on speed-dial.
7. You pretend that every car you drive is a
DeLorean.
8. Your goal in life is to organize a rescue
mission to retrieve the submerged body dies.
9. You can't remember your anniversary, but
you can recite the entire history of the DMC.
10. You cringe every time some slack-jawed
yokel says "Whadda you use on the body?
Steel wool?"
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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 11:20:18 -0800
From: "Ken Montgomery"
Subject: DML: The DeLorean Motor Club
Can anyone tell me any information about the 'DeLorean Motor Club' in
Las Vegas, NV/Sun Valley, CA? I had them send me their membership
information by signing up on their web site. They sent me a letter
talking about The Cincinnati event (which I didn't think they were
part of), and that they put out a publication 'DeLorean
International'. Their web site doesn't really say anything and I've
not heard a single word about them on the DML.
As a new Delorean owner, I'll join most anything and give it a
chance, but I also don't want to send $40 off into nowhere.
Comments??
- -------------------------------------------------------
Ken Montgomery My DeLorean VIN #10911 'OUTTIME'
Sacramento, CA
kenm(AT)csus.edu "When the wind gets under these wings
Operating You will feel what freedom brings"
Systems Analyst From 'On-Air' Alan Parsons
(916) 278-7646
http://www.jps.net/arkham/delorean01.htm
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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 21:19:58 -0500
From: "C. Longwisch"
Subject: DML: Re: The DeLorean Motor Club
I joined the DeLorean Motor Club almost a year ago. So far I have a card
to
carry in my wallet and a decal to put on my car window to show for my
$40.00. Like you I was hungry for information and was willing to invest
$40.00 to get it. Unfortunately this has not proved to be a good
investment. At least with the D.O.A. I get a pretty good magazine and
some reasonable DeLorean apparel. Fortunately, James and the Zine has
filled the needed void of technical information and contacts while
managing
not to get an "attitude" that some of the D.O.A. people have given the
marque. Maybe we will get a marriage of D.M.C. and the Zine ? The
Cincinnati show illustrates the desire for "social" functions for D.O.A.
members other than the West coast or a new club to fit our needs!
I
still would like one of the clubs to address insurance as do most other
marque clubs.
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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 22:20:18 -0400
From: "Joe "
Subject: DML: Re: TNN cartoon
Steve,
The show on TNN is called "My Classic Car" it aired this past Sunday 5/12
at 2:30 PM.
You may, however, still have a chance to see the animated "D" on the
"Simpsons", it is scheduled to air 5/27. This is a syndicated program
therefore it air schedule varies from market to market,
Joe/DeLorean Services
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> From: steve r
> To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com
> Subject: DML: TNN carshow
> Date: Thursday, May 14, 1998 4:09 PM
>
> Someone told me about a car show that was on TNN a few days ago. He
> said he saw a DeLorean in in. Does anyone know anything else about
> this? Bye the way, is it too late for me to still watch the DeLorean
> episode of the simpsons?
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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 00:18:58 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Marvin S. Sterling"
Subject: DML: Re: vin 16000 '83 for sale
Hello all !
I really haven't tried too hard to market my '83. It has 32K miles, no
dent
or dings, steel braided clutch line, steel overflow container, metal
radiator ( Grady installed) new clutch, new brakes - tires good - cared
for,
since purchase in '84, like a baby.
Asking 17,500 ( slightly negotiable ) comes with both manuals ( both
originals) + some spare parts.
Everything works quite well.
I'm just not enjoying this toy as much as some of my others - different
age
different stage - you know.
Email me directly for additional info - located in metro New York area.
Marv Sterling
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