DeLorean Mailing List - 11/25/96


dmcnews-digest	Monday, 25 November 1996	Volume 02 : Number 198

In this issue:
Big batteries
Rear Defroster & Windshield Antenna
Re: Kapac Page
Florida owners
Re: Fuel Flap and Grooved Hood
engine number
DeLorean wanted.
Re: Alternators and Original Stock
What's it worth ?
Re: DeLorean wanted.
Caution about buying a DMC
Re: Caution about buying a DMC
Re: Caution about buying a DMC
Re: Caution about buying a DMC
Are DeLoreans Hungry Electrically? Locks Affected? Cold Start Valve Availability?
Replacement Headlights
Delorean Pictures
Alternators, cooling fans, rims
I didn't think it was possible to lock keys in the car...
Brake pad and shcok CR #s
Re: I didn't think it was possible to lock your keys in a DeLorean
Motorcar Memorabilia
Re: I didn't think it was possible to lock keys in the car...
vin # 16000 for sale
Re: DMC Spoilers
D's for sale

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From: Mike Substelny 
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 15:50:19 -0500
Subject: Big batteries

Mark Hershey posted some good tips about system voltage. Thank you, Mark! I will 
follow your advice. 

>Bigger battery would help you crank longer, and it would tend to maintain terminal 
voltage longer if your alternator could not put out enough to handle worst-case 
demand, but it would not cure the root problem...

I use a big battery. When my previous battery was on its last legs system voltage 
would fluctuate wildly. Stopped at a light with everything going the voltage would 
drop very low. I was afraid it would damage my computer or fuel pump. Since I 
obviously needed to replace it anyway I just bought the biggest one I could get. 
The price difference was not that much, and it really did smooth out voltage. 

The main advantage of a big battery comes when your engine is not running. I can 
leave my doors open with marker lights on for hours without worrying about it.

There is a down side to the big battery, however. If you allow it to discharge 
(as with leaving your doors open) it can draw quite a bit of power during recharge. 
You may be alarmed if you try to run your headlights, A/C, wipers, cooling fans, 
or anything else while it is recharging!

A big battery is not a solution to an ongoing low voltage condition. True, the 
battery can supplument for a few minutes (maybe waiting at a red light) but do 
not allow your system to rely on it continuously. The battery itself will eventually 
become a burden, as the alternator struggles to keep it charged.

- -Mike Substelny


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From: Chase Clark 
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 96 00:00:35 -0600
Subject: Rear Defroster & Windshield Antenna 

I'm in the process of catching up with my email reading and deleting old messages 
of no real value. I came across a discussion of the rear window defroster and it 
reminded me of a situation I experienced this past week. It was below freezing and 
my car's interior was still damp from a recent rain storm (leaks around the windows 
which are being repaired this week). My windshield iced up on the inside and outside. 
The rear window had condensation on it and maybe some ice, but doubtful. I didn't 
even bother with the rear defroster, but noticed that the engine heat had completely 
cleared the rear window within driving a few miles on the highway. Needless to say, 
the windshield still wasn't clear. Maybe a little band of defroster wires in the 
bottom of the windshield would help clear it quicker?

As far as my search for a new OEM-look windshield radio antenna tape goes...no true 
luck. I have yet to find one anywhere that is even a close match. I have found two 
interesting substitutes, however. One is a 13-inch wide small metal strip that 
attaches to the inside of the antenna, say right above the rear-view mirror. The 
other is a dipole antenna design (like the windshield tape) that mounts in 
"hidden" areas of the car. If I went this route, I could run it above the 
headliner when I replace the gray cloth this spring.

In a related note, I have discovered that professional glass installers refuse 
to install NOS windshields and provide any type of guarantee should it crack in 
the process. I have yet to decide what to do in this case. I may eventually install 
it myself or take it to Rob Grady or someone who is highly expereinced with the 
DMC-12. 

~ Chase

"DOS Computers manufactured by companies such as IBM, Compaq, Tandy, and millions 
of others are by far the most popular, with about 70 million machines in use 
wordwide. Macintosh fans, on the other hand, may note that cockroaches are far 
more numerous than humans, and that numbers alone do not denote a higher life 
form."

( New York Times, November 26, 1991)



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From: Chase Clark  Date: Wed, 20 Nov 96 00:00:27 -0600
Subject: Re: Kapac Page

>I checked out Kapac's parts page at http://www.deloreanparts.com. It's rather 
anorexic right now and doesn't tell much about what they have. Well, it says 
NOTHING about what they have. I emailed them asking if they plan to have their 
inventory on the page. I really hope the page is successful for them.

While I was at KAPAC last month I talked to Jerry Rine about the web page. The 
owner of KAPAC (Marvin Katz) had the web page created without much input from 
anyone else. He evidently planned to put the entire parts manual online, but 
balked at the $350 per month cost to do so from the ISP he is using. I doubt 
the web page will have much done to it, especially when you consider the fact 
that KAPAC/DeLorean Depot doesn't take credit cards, making it nearly impossible 
to order online. 

~ Chase



"DOS Computers manufactured by companies such as IBM, Compaq, Tandy, and millions 
of others are by far the most popular, with about 70 million machines in use 
wordwide. Macintosh fans, on the other hand, may note that cockroaches are far 
more numerous than humans, and that numbers alone do not denote a higher life form."

( New York Times, November 26, 1991)



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From: ShrtCrt(AT)aol.com
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 02:02:00 -0500
Subject: Florida owners

Are there any owners near the orlando area. I am flying out there Dec 14- 21.
Would like to get together and talk DMC. Thanks Justin Holman

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From: Chase Clark  Date: Wed, 20 Nov 96 00:00:30 -0600
Subject: Re: Fuel Flap and Grooved Hood

>100% of the time when I let the attendant fill the tank, gas gets all over the 
place and stinks up the trunk. The smell gets sucked in to the car, and it's a big 
mess.... To add to the fiasco, the tank is never "Full" because they were filling 
it too fast. It is kinda cool when the pump "pops" and the mini guiser of gas 
squirts out of the filler hole. 

Letting fuel flow down into the trunk space or elsewhere is not advisable. When 
replacing my fuel pump last spring, I had some fuel droplets splash in the trunk 
area. The gasoline slightly pitted (dissolved) the fiberglass it came into contact 
with. 

~ Chase


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From: k6046(AT)mail.vistec.net
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:36:27 +0000
Subject: engine number

Hello,

for my DeLorean '81, I need parts for the engine. To get the parts, the garage 
needs the number of the equivalent Euro-engine.
The engine number of my DeLorean is SCEDT 26T8B D004949 Oct81. No Renault or 
Volvo Dealer can find engine spare-parts with this number.

Can anyone help ?

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From: "Murray Fisher" 
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:29:31 -0800
Subject: DeLorean wanted.

I have been looking for a DeLorean to buy, for several months now. I am ready 
and willing but have a few "caveats". It MUST be Automatic with gray
leather and I prefer stainless. It should be in Very Good Condition.I have
found quite a few for sale but they are all 5 speed, without exception. 
My Main Hangup, is that I will not travel to the ends of the earth to see or 
buy it. I will not buy one without seeing and feeling it and driving it!! I have 
yet to SEE a live one.
I need to find one located in the Pacific Northwest somewhere, preferably in 
Eastern Washington State or Northeastern Oregon. I have a local dealer friend 
(sort of!!) who says he has located 4 of them
for 19K but wants to act as my "broker" and buy one for me. He says he has
driven thousands of cars and can tell by driving one around the block what 
condition it is in. I believe him EXCEPT for a DeLorean!! I asked him if he 
knew what to look for in a DeLo such as brass radiator (maybe) lowering,
and a zillion other things I have READ and enumerated from the pages here.
OF course he did not know about those things! I would suspect he is planning 
on making about 5K on any one of them, as he will NOT tell me where they are, 
except to say they are in the Pacific Northwest. I have no
objection to anyone making a reasonable profit, as he will NOT tell me where 
they are located. We are at a stalemate. 
No sermons on the auto vs manual please...as they say, been there done that. I 
enjoy shifting the gears but my wife MIGHT drive it now and then and she is 
shiftless! Also, although I have driven race cars a lot and ditto motorcycles 
(road one around a barrel for a living in Calif in the olden days!) plus lots of 
gear shifting cars, I am ALMOST past that stage now ( I still have a motorcycle 
endorsement on my drivers license) I am tired of rowing thru the gears and only want 
to SHOW OFF at this stage of my life. Ho Ho. (I am 75).
If anyone has any suggestions for either buying one (any year) and/or even
just being able to see a LIVE one in my area, I would appreciate it very much.
James, many thanks for these three times a week newsletters. I have copies of them 
all and it is a stack about six inches high! I really look forward to them.





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From: Chase Clark  Date: Wed, 20 Nov 96 15:03:49 -0600
Subject: Re: Alternators and Original Stock 

>Chase - the question is what can be used as a replacement for the Motorola 
alternator, not that I need one, but just out of curiousity.. 

Marvin and others:

One replacement for the Motorolla alternator is the Ducellier unit of course. 
I'vr heard at least one person say that the units are not as defective as we have 
always been led to believe. The early productions DMC's had problems with quality, 
but if the electrics are working fine, the alternator may last much longer. 
Personally, I believe my car has the original Ducellier, which was rebuilt at 
some point by a shop in Washington state.

The General Motors / AC Delco alternators are a common replacement for the original
 alternator as well. They require only a little work (new mounting bracket and 
 grinding the post) from what others have said. However, Jerry Rine at KAPAC says 
 he has noticed one problem with these units. All the ones he has seen for some 
 unexplained reason to not start to recharge the battery until after the car has 
 been running for three to four minutes. Admittingly, this is not a big deal unless 
 you are trying to start a car with a very low battery to recharge it. Jerry also 
 mentioned that Ed Bernstein at DeLorean One has obtained another brand of alternator 
 (unknown brand) that is suppose to be a great match for the Motorolla. Unfortunately, 
 none of the other DMC specialty shops have been able to locate Ed's source and 
 acquire these units themselves. 

~ Chase


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From: "Marvin S. Sterling"  Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 03:43:11 
-0800
Subject: What's it worth ?

I really need all of your help on this. I have an opportunity to sell my '83 vin 
# 16000 and for various reasons I am seriously considering it. The details of the 
D are as follow:
Purchased new February 1984
5 speed - grey interior - 31K miles - built in 3 piece CB radio + harada am/fm/cb 
antenna ( original antenna available ) - clock in the shifter panel ( I bought it 
and installed it - original no clock panel is available)
Steel braided clutch cable installed
New centerforce clutch recently installed + slave assembly Stainless overflow 
bottle just installed ( original available ) New front speakers
ASI radio fully operational
All metal radiator installed several years ago New clutch master cylinder assembly 
installed Front fascia recently repaired and painted by restoration specialists 
Comes with:	original parts manual
shop manual
set of brake pads (all)
virgin copy of Stainless Steel Illusion
all repeat all service records from P.J. Grady and Parkway Service Center ( my 
local mechanic ) If desired last 11 years of DeLOrean World 

It is ready to drive and requires no tinkering or work to put it in shape. I would 
like to get 30K but I also don't want to haggle so what I need is a realistic firm 
price to ask. Any help you can give me will be appeciated. I don't want to part 
with my "baby" but some things just can't be avoided.
Best regards,
Marv Sterling


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From: "Michael E. Gaines"  Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 11:24:44 -0500
Subject: Re: DeLorean wanted.

Murray,
First, try Hemming's Motor News to see what DeLoreans are for sale in the US this 
month. There has to be SOMETHING in your area. If this guy wants to act as a broker, 
tell him to forget it if he has no experience with them. Use the DML back issues 
for what youshould look for in a car. I was at Rob Grady's last month and saw about 
10 automatic cars there (not that cars in NY will help you).
Keep trying local auto shoppers. When I was looking for a DeLorean in July-August 
I found a few in local auto shoppers, local papers, etc. The one I bought was from 
my state, and the seller was in NJ. Good luck! 

Mike


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From: "Michael E. Gaines"  Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 08:24:52 -0500
Subject: Caution about buying a DMC

Hi all,
If anyone remembers (cares), I was in a monor accident about a month ago. Rob's 
almost done with my car, and we got our check from the insurance company. The 
kicker is that the check is made out to my wife and our bank. Why our bank? 
Because there's a lean against the car. The car cost me $11,900 but the loan for 
the balance was only $5,800. The check for the damage was $3320.85.My wife goes 
to the bank to have them sign it, and they won't sign the check until they see the 
car is done. Errr...how do they see the car is done unless I can pay Rob and get 
the car to the bank? Banks are silly. They say they have an investment to protect 
which makes NO sense since I pay them $122/mo. for the $5800 loan anyway! 
Caution to anyone getting a DeLorean that might have to have work done far away. 
Make sure your bank won't screw you this way. The bank manager told me that I 
should have gotten the work done locally. Sorry, but Joe Blow mechanic doesn't 
put his paws on my baby. I took it to Rob because I knew he's get it done right. 
In the meantime, our insurance company and the bank's main number are telling me 
this shouldn't be happening,but the branch refuses to cooperate. Any ideas??? 

Mike Gaines


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From: "Marvin S. Sterling"  Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 11:08:27 
-0800
Subject: Re: Caution about buying a DMC

At 08:24 AM 11/21/96 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>If anyone remembers (cares), I was in a monor accident about a month ago. Rob's 
almost done with my car, and we got our check from the insurance company. The 
kicker is that the check is made out to my wife and our bank. Why our bank? Because 
there's a lean against the car. The 
- --------------snip --------------------- 
bbut the branch refuses to cooperate. Any ideas??? 

>Mike Gaines


Try having Rob take pictures of the completed car, date and sign them and also 
have Rob prepare an affidavit of the work done and completion date, that should 
convince them.
Regards,
Marv Sterling

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From: James Espey 
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 96 12:26:25 -0000
Subject: Re: Caution about buying a DMC

>knew he's get it done right. In the meantime, our insurance company and the bank's 
main number are telling me this shouldn't be happening, but the branch refuses to
 cooperate. Any ideas??? 

May take more time that you want to spend, but why not have the insurance company 
cut a new check made out to Rob? 

James


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From: Chase Clark  Date: Thu, 21 Nov 96 14:13:40 -0600
Subject: Re: Caution about buying a DMC


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>I knew he's get it done right. In the meantime, our insurance company and the 
bank's main number are telling me this shouldn't be happening, but the branch 
refuses to cooperate. Any ideas??? 

Michael:

If the main branch of the bank says your branch should be acting more civilized 
than this, than the answer is somewhat simple. Call up the bank president and 
tell him/her about the situation. I'm sure he/she can straighten out your branch 
and give the branch manager a tongue-lashing as well.

~ Chase


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From: Chase Clark  Date: Thu, 21 Nov 96 14:42:43 -0600
Subject: Are DeLoreans Hungry Electrically? Locks Affected? 

I thought that I would respond to an earlier comment that the DeLorean DMC-12 is 
no more electrically hungry than other cars of its era. I seriously question this 
for one reason - the cooling system. Yes, many cars had electric fuel pumps, 
lights, power windows and locks, but I can't recall many cars that have utilized 
dual electric cooling fans for the radiator.

I don't question that some of the problems may be related to the shoddy wiring of 
the car. The British are not well known for having prowess with anything electrical. 
I think in the spring I will check my electrics more closely and ground various 
components better, especially the alarm as it keeps acting up for 
not-totally-explained reasons. I also wonder if the problem with the grounding of 
the car could have anything to do with the electric door locks and their problems 
on DeLoreans in general. I believe the solenoid receives a constant negative signal 
when the locks are engaged. Could a bad/insufficient ground wire there or elsewhere 
cause the solenoids to burn out quicker? Just a thought. 

~ Chase


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From: Chase Clark  Date: Thu, 21 Nov 96 14:42:51 -0600
Subject: Cold Start Valve Availability?

With winter on the way, I definitely need to finally replace my cold start valve. 
Unfornately, KAPAC doesn't have any of the original valves in stock anymore. Does 
anyone know the Bosch part number or other cross-reference information?

~ Chase


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From: Chase Clark  Date: Thu, 21 Nov 96 14:42:46 -0600
Subject: Replacement Headlights

I just bought a pair of OEM Sylvania headlights for my car. Water is getting inside 
my lights and really dissipating the lights' beam at night, making it quite hard to 
see the road in rain or light fog. The original low-beam lights (model #4656) have 
beeen replaced by 4656LL lights. At this point, I don't know what the model # is 
for the high-beam headlights, but figure it won't be too hard to figure out since 
the 4656LL are for cars with a four-beam system. I am going to use these $7.99 
headlights from a local parts store, HOWEVER, for those of you picky about 
originality, do not purchase them. They are not an exact match. Sylvania has moved 
their logo to the center of the lights, made it bigger and added the word halogen 
below the logo. This doesn't matter to me, but I thought it might to someone else. 

~ Chase


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From: hansolo(AT)xis.com (Joel Baum)
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 21:26:18 -0500
Subject: Delorean Pictures

Hello everyone. I promised I would let everyone know when my site was "functioning" 
again, and now it is. The URL is http://www.xis.com/~hansolo/
Follow the link to the Delorean page and you will see the pictures of the Bowie 
British Car Day and the Gold Delorean VIN#20105. Thanks!!!! 
--Joel


Joel Baum
hansolo(AT)xis.com
Joel Baum's Home Page
http://www.xis.com/~hansolo/



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From: Mpeak(AT)aol.com
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 21:48:22 -0500
Subject: Alternators, cooling fans, rims 

Chase and Marvin:

I talked to Rob Grady a couple of weeks ago and he said that although there
are no more Motorolla alternators left, he is in the process of trying to locate 
the company who owns the rights to this particular alternator (some French company). 
Although it will not say Motorolla on it, it will still be
the same 90 Amp unit.

Mark Hershey:

Although you say that 80 amps is substantial enough to power the Delorean, I
have read articles that directly contradict this, saying that the Delorean,
with many accessories on, can easily goble up the maximum amount of amps produced 
by the unit. In addition, although there is a posted amperage on alternator case, 
a lot of the time the alternator cannot produce this amperage and it is considered 
a healthy alternator if it is within about 10% of specifications. When I performed 
a charging system test on my car, I could only milk 65 amps out of it. Also, even 
if the car didn't require more amperage, it isn't good to have an alternator, 
Ducellier or non-Ducellier, running around producing it's maximum amperage all the 
time. The heat buildup is just a problem waiting to happen.

Cooling fans:

Somebody made a comment last week about continuous operation of cooling fans
not allowing the engine to reach operating temperature. This is totally INCORRECT! 
The thermostat's job is to make sure the engine is at operating
temperature and that it gets to this temperature as fast as possible, no matter what 
the temperature is of the incoming coolant. Also, an engine that
is not allowed to operate at it's correct operating temperature will not notice minor 
engine wear and poor fuel economy. Depending on how far away the temperature is away 
from the correct operating temperature (i.e. no thermostat at all), MAJOR engine wear 
and poor fuel economy will occur. One aspect that I do not know about that maybe 
somebody else can speculate on
is whether fan motor burn out is a problem with continuous usage. Are the electric 
fan motors reliable?

Wheel size:

Does anybody know why DMC (or Colin Chapman) decided to replace the 15 and 16
inch rims (front and rear respectively) from the prototypes with 14 and 15 inch 
rims on the production car? The only reason I can think is for better
acceleration. But this theory has holes in it since larger rim size can be
compensated with lower profile tires. The 14 inch rims in the front are the
smallest rims I know of on a high performance sports car. Anybody replace them 
with larger ones?


- -Matt


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From: Blarness(AT)aol.com
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 22:31:43 -0500
Subject: I didn't think it was possible to lock keys in the car... 

I have noticed on REALLY cold days (+18 F for example this morning) that the 
locks don't act right when you engage and disengage them. 

Get this. I stopped to put a little air in a tire and left the keys in the
ignition. I did NOT lock the door but I did close it. That's when I heard that 
awful "click!" of the doorlocks activating. 

Oh, my.

Thank goodness the switch for the passenger window stopped working the other day 
with the window open a half an inch. I had to tie four coat hangers together to 
fish the keys out of the ignition from the passenger window. I couldn't push hard 
enough on the switch to unlock the door so that was my only alternative.

People coming and going at the gas station seemed to get in line to laugh at the 
guy with the locked Delorean. Maybe if it were a rusty Chevette it wouldn't have 
been so bad. 

- -C2
#3876


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From: Mpeak(AT)aol.com
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 21:49:28 -0500
Subject: Brake pad and shcok CR #s

I know I posted this question before but I know somebody out there knows the
answer. What are the cross reference numbers for the parking brake pads and
what are the cross reference numbers for the shock absorbers? 

- -Matt


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From: Mike Substelny  Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 09:08:40 -0500
Subject: Re: I didn't think it was possible to lock your keys in a 

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I have heard other people with this idea. Frankly, I have had my power locks 
trigger when closing the door plenty of times. Fortunately the only time I left 
the keys inside I had a spare handy.

At gas stations I always avoid this possibility by leaving the driver's door open. 
In my mind an open door is no less secure than an unlocked one, but it attracts 
more admirers. If I walk away from the car I always take the keys. 

The excuse I give people is that I am trying to save wear and tear on the cryo-twist 
torsion bar. While this is true, I am sure the benefit is minimal.

- -Mike Substelny


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Subject: DeLorean Motorcar Memorabilia

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From: franka(AT)midwest.net (Frank Augustine) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 08:38:21 -0600 
(CST) Subject: Re: I didn't think it was possible to lock keys in the car... 

>ignition. I did NOT lock the door but I did close it. That's when I heard that awful 
"click!" of the doorlocks activating. 


It's happened to several of us :-( .... I pulled my DeLorean into a car wash
and closed the door ... YEEEEEE ... it locked with the engine running too ... luckily 
my wife was home and brought the extra set of keys .. OTHERWISE,
I don't know what I would have done .... 

Now I NEVER close the door with the engine running and me on the outside ...

Frank

Frank of FOTOZ Color Lab
Centralia, Illinois, USA



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From: "Marvin S. Sterling"  Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 03:42:56 -0800
Subject: vin # 16000 for sale

Purchased new February '84 - garaged since new clutch - new stainless overflow 
bottle all metal radiator - CB radio & harada am/fm/cb antenna new front speakers
comes with:
parts manual - shop manual - "Stainless Steel Illusion" brakes pads - all service 
records 30k miles located at Whitestone, Queens, New York

if interested e-mail me at  


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From: raddad(AT)cmn.net
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 09:17:26 -0700
Subject: Re: DMC Spoilers

>Why do some DeLoreans have spoilers, and some don't? Is it a modification, or was 
there different DeLoreans produced? 

>Dave

Mid 80's model Firebird spoilers fit very nicely on DMCs and look quite good. I ran
 mine that way for several years. Does not block vision. However, it adds 
 considerable weight to the louvers and thus you need a prop to keep them open 
 or else you will have a large bump on your head. 




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From: wsul1355(AT)uriacc.uri.edu (W. Matthew Sullivan) Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 21:49:29 
-0500 (EST) Subject: D's for sale

Hello to all my fellow DeL. lovers-
I'd really like to know if there are any of you out there who have,
or know of, any specimens of the DeLorean breed up for sale. I know there are some, 
but I have somewhat of a tight budget. (I'm in college.) If anybody can point me to 
a good restoration project, then you're awesome. Thanks and keep drivin'-
P.S. I'm in the New England area.
-Matt :)}
{W. Matthew Sullivan}
U.R.I. - Union Express
50 Lower College Rd.,
Unit #3477
Kingston, RI
02881-1960
"You may be right,
I may be crazy-
But it just may be a lunatic you're looking for."
-Billy Joel
***PLEASE DO NOT FORWARD ME CHAIN LETTERS*** 

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