DeLorean Mailing List - 11/02/97


Sunday, November 2 1997        Volume 03 : Number 298


       In this issue:
        Re: DML: Cheap DMCs
        Re: DML: acceleration problems 
        DML: New list member
        Re:  DML: Cheap DMCs
        DML: Re:  Cheap DMC's and how I got mine
        DML: Details of fuel gauge sender seepage 
        DML: Delorean Window Stickers
        Re:  DML: Cheap DMCs

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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 17:23:40 -0500 (EST)
From: JSteuben@aol.com
Subject: Re: DML: Cheap DMCs

It's a fair deal if.....all of the updates are in,  don't forget to 
check the trailing
arm bolts,  is the radiator steel or plastic,  does it have all the 
proper stuff,  radio
ect, ect?  How are the shocks and the rest of the suspension?  They  
may need some work after 100Ks.   Congratulations,  enjoy, and welcome 
to the wild world of DMC.  Joe :>}

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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 12:27:55 -0600
From: Bill Marcussen 
Subject: Re: DML: acceleration problems 

Travis H. Graham wrote:

> This is a bit hard to describe, but:  Whenever I try to accelerate =
> moderately or quickly, the car starts to shake.  It feels like the car 
> =
> gives up power several instances per second anytime I step on the gas 
> =
> any harder than lightly.  This problem started about a week ago and = 
> appears to only occur after the engine is warm.  I already tried =
> injector cleaner, but that didn't solve the problem.  If you have any 
> =
> questions that would clarify this annoying problem, please ask me. >


A couple of things to look at:
1.  Fuel pump suction hose -- these deteriorate over time and will 
partially collapse under hard suction, such as when you are 
accelerating.  I recently replaced the fuel pump, which was performing 
marginally but had the same sort of problem under acceleration that 
you describe until I changed the fuel suction hose.

2.  Electrical -- loose connections at the pump which allow 
intermittent running of the pump will cause the engine to stumble when 
you are calling for lots of fuel.

Hope this helps.

Bill

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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 07:29:23 -0600 
From: "brian nallin" 
Subject: DML: New list member

Hi there!  I am a new owner of an '81 model DMC and would just like to = 
tell you that I am so glad to find out that there are others who are as = 
enthused about the Delorean as I am.  I got the car from a friend who's = 
father recently passed away.  He is not the enthusiast that his father = 
was so I was able to add the DMC to my collection for a mere $5000.00!  = 
The car only has minor problems such as being stored for the past eight = 
years with half a tank of gas in it.  Are you ready for this, the car = 
has 15,000 miles on it!  The interior is good and the body is perfect.  = 
I am a drag racer by hobby so this is a little out of my scope so I'll = 
be watching and asking for advice.  Thanks again for the inclusion into = 
your group!

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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 13:47:11 -0500 (EST)
From: GullWinged@aol.com
Subject: Re:  DML: Cheap DMCs

>I'm confused.  If a D is well maintained and in top running order why 
>would it be necessary to spend 15M to restore/modify it. I'm asking 20M 
>for mine and it is ready for whatever workout a new owner wants to put 
>it through ....I wouldn't drive it otherwise.  Other than gas there 
>isn't anything that a new owner has to do to the car.

That $15,000 figure includes the purchase price. I bought mine for 
$9,000 and have invested nearly $5,000 more in it to date. I 
anticipate it would take several thousand more to have it completely 
restored, versus just being nice and road-worthy like I think it is 
now. I hope that clarifies some of the misconceptions of my earlier 
statements.

Chase

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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 13:47:33 -0500 (EST)
From: GullWinged@aol.com
Subject: DML: Re:  Cheap DMC's and how I got mine

Miek said...
>I can't agree with you there. I got my car in September of 1996 for 
>$11,900
>and only had to put $1k into it. The car's been running flawlessly since 
>Rob fixed it up. Over time I put another $2k into it and I'm selling it 
>for
>$15k. I think it's a deal.

I rest my case in a way again. The car has had $14,900 invested in it. 
Just short of my $15,000 predicition.

Chase

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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 14:54:35 -0500
From: Mike Substelny 
Subject: DML: Details of fuel gauge sender seepage 

Rob Hook said (about his leaky sender unit gasket):

> It turns out there's a small tab in the sending unit that goes through a
> cut-out on the circular gasket and into a slot in the top of the fuel tank. 
> The unit was installed improperly and the tab did not line up. 

> P.S. If you can't quite picture what I'm talking about . . .

I can picture exactly what you are saying, Rob, as I have taken my
sender out and put it back in.  My gasket is installed properly and it 
seals very well.

The seepage I described in my earlier post is through the electrical 
connections on the top of the sender.  It is JUST A FEW DROPS oozing 
out along the wires.  To observe it, I need to fill the tank and the 
filler tube to the top, then sit and watch the sender unit for several 
minutes. Eventually I can see tiny drops of gas forming on the top of 
the sender.

Now that I have put epoxy over the electrical connections the seepage 
is a very, very small quantity of gasoline.   But it is still enough 
for my fiancee to smell gas fumes!

It looks like my sender's electrical connections were sealed badly 
right from the factory.  Has anyone else observed this, or is mine the 
only one?

- - Mike Substelny

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Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 03:57:54 +0000 
From: Bob Brandys 
Subject: DML: Delorean Window Stickers

We have reproduced the DMC window sticker as found on the car when it 
was new showing the options and the $25000 price..  If you display 
your car this can add some rare information about the car. We can 
reproduce these customized for individual cars.  Cost is $40.00 to add 
the shipping, year, serial number, dealer, option, etc. and print your 
individual window sticker.=20

The one we printed for the 97=99 Delorean Time Machine is awsume!

Bob Brandys

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Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 22:40:54 -0600 (CST)
From: Alan Chen 
Subject: Re:  DML: Cheap DMCs

Hi, i'm new to the newsgroup, and i was just wondering if anyone new 
of where I could purchase a small model of the DeLorean.  I'm not 
looking for anything specific, and even a model of the Back To The 
Future version would be great.  Please let me know if anyone has info
on this.  Thanks

Al

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