DeLorean Mailing List - 11/20/97


Thursday, November 20 1997       Volume 03 : Number 304



       In this issue:
        DML: Delorean Poster
        DML: Parts for sale
        DML: Pictures of Columbus event
        DML: Delco Alt's ....
        DML: Was the Delorean front suspension from a Ford ??????
        DML: Headlights
        DML: John Z. De Lorean's Mailing Address
        Re: DML: Headlights
        DML: DeLorean for Sale OHIO
        DML: UK & Andersen settle DeLorean
        Re: DML: Headlights
        Hi Beams
        DML: Fwd: Hi Beams
        DML:  Hi-beam headlight troubleshooting
        DML: DeLorean prices in FL
        DML: DeLorean modifications
        DML: Birmingham NEC Car Show.
        DML: Dare to Dream video

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Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 16:17:16 -0500 (EST)
From: WINGD2(AT)aol.com
Subject: DML: Delorean Poster

Brandon,

      Thanks, nice try ( autotrend.com/111.html) - but not what I'm 
looking
for.

      The poster " Blizzard of the 80's " is about 2'x3' and is a repo of 
a
painting done by, I believe, a French artist.  It shows a front view of 
the
Delorean with its doors up in a snow storm.

       I'm still looking for this item, if anyone has any info.   Thanks,
 Marty

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Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:54:04 -0500 (EST)
From: SAND131(AT)aol.com
Subject: DML: Parts for sale

I HAVE THE FOLLOWING  ALL NEW ORIG DMC PARTS FOR SALE:
A200010	SIDE STRIPE DECAL SET	1	$87.20
SP10065	BULB OEM (FRANCE)	8	$1.62
SP10076	BULB OEM (FRANCE)	10	$0.89
SP10077	BULB OEM (FRANCE)	10	$2.00
SP10304	BULBS	8	$1.17
100156	BUSHING UPPER WISHBONE	4	$13.00
100344	FRONT GRILL 	1	$349.00
100408	REAR SHOCK OEM	2	$43.02
100427	REAR WHEEL GRAY	2	$559.00
100523	FUEL FILTER  OEM	2	$37.50
100545	W.W. BOTTLE ASM W/MTR	1	$114.00
100547	RADIO FLY LEAD	1	$13.11
100558	A.T. SELECTOR CABLE	1	$30.00
100634	HEADLAMP RETAINER	1	$13.00
100753	TEMP CONTROL SWITCH	1	$26.50
100755	FAN  SWITCH	1	$18.00
100761	VENT OUTLET DOOR	2	$29.00
100778	MOTOR MOUNT	2	$32.00
100806	W. WASHER NOZZLE	1	$4.00
100814	REOSTATT	1	$19.77
100820	BRAKE LIGHT SW ITCH	2	$4.56
100853	BELL CRANK L.H.LOCK  SW	1	$22.65
100901	BUMPER MOUNT	1	$24.06
100928	GASKET,EXH. MFD-PIPE	2	$2.09
101052	IGNITION COIL	1	$45.01
101359	MODE KNOB	1	$5.00
101419	L.H. DR. LOCK W/KEY	1	$49.00
101420	R.H. DR LOCK W/KEY	1	$49.00
101602	HEADLIGHT FILLER  R.H.	1	$4.00
101965	CABLE PARK BRAKE L.H. SIDE	1	$24.47
102024	SEAL	2	$14.28
102056	CRANK  SPROCKET	1	$21.64
102065	FLEXPLATE	1	$154.11
102114	OIL FILTER OEM ( PUROFLEX)	1	$17.00
102119	WATER PUMP  OEM	1	$153.85
102135	GASKET WATER PUMP HSG	2	$1.59
102152	GASKET WATER O/L PIPE	3	$0.43
102165	VALVE STEM SEAL	6	$1.75
102170	GASKET	2	$0.80
102249	GASKET ROCKER CVR L.H.	3	$5.58
102256	GASKET ROCKER CVR R.H.	3	$5.98
102263	EXAUST MAN GASKET	2	$16.80
102284	GASKET,  INT MANIFOLD	9	$1.57
102345	INJECTOR SUPPORT	6	$2.76
102346	INJECTOR CLIP	4	$0.63
102369	HOLLOW SCREW	1	$0.63
102405	THERMAL  C. VALVE	1	$26.22
102414	GASKET	2	$0.33
102415	OIL FILL ASSY	1	$8.60
102443	SPARK PLUGS   OEM	10	$5.58
102450	TEMP. SENSOR	1	$9.82
102478	SWITCH LAMBDA SENSOR	1	$9.45
102489	GASKET,MIX CON UNIT	1	$4.78
102512	CLUTCH DISC	1	$101.85
102569	FLYWHEEL T.O. BRNG	2	$15.78
102573	SEAL,CRANK	5	$4.01
102627	VALVE, EXHAUST SET OF 3	1	$65.50
102628	VALVE, INTAKE SET OF 3	1	$22.93
102631	INJECTOR SLEEVE	8	$1.55
102643	VOLTAGE REG. ducellier	1	$171.00
102644	BRUSH SET ALT ducel	1	$7.00
102652	STARTER DRIVE	1	$42.18
102653	STARTER JUMP RING&CUP	1	$2.34
102669	BRUSH SET STARTER	1	$16.70
102702	IGN. SET  OEM	1	$61.81
102709	THERMOSTAT  OEM	3	$22.06
102742	INJECTOR NOZZEL	2	$30.31
103016	DRAIN PLUG	1	$6.25
103065	NEEDLE BRNG M. TRANS	1	$8.57
103119	CON  ROLLER BEARING	2	$40.20
103151	TRANS STOPPER	2	$4.58
103245	CLUTCH THROWOUT BEARING	3	$35.40
103251	CL REL FORK CAP	2	$0.48
103500	GASKET KIT, A/T	2	$40.70
103516	GASKET, FLUID PAN	2	$5.71
103543	OIL SEAL	2	$8.27
103574	LIPSEAL	1	$5.04
103578	SEAL, PLANETARY SET	1	$3.62
103702	STRAINER	1	$22.86
103815	MAG DRAIN PLUG  OEM	2	$5.00
104003	SOLENOID A.T.	1	$56.01
104216	LIPSEAL	6	$7.23
105063	GAS STRUT HOOD OEM	1	$21.69
105148	RUBBER EXHAUST MOUNT	7	$12.49
105176	WASH/WIPE CONTROL	1	$66.00
105183	FUEL GAUGE SENDER	1	$100.00
105403	FRT FENDER BRKT L.H.	1	$7.45
105665	WIPER ARMS	2	$34.00
105707	LOWER BALL JOINT ASSM	2	$38.31
105851	PRINTED CIRCUIT	1	$31.98
105869	FUEL/OIL GAUGE	1	$97.00
105870	VOLT/TEMP. GAUGE	1	$110.00
106085	25 AMP BREAKER OEM	1	$6.18
106087	W.W. TRAY &COVER	1	$37.00
106269	COOLING RELAY  OEM	2	$9.15
106648	ARM RST R.H. BLK	1	$244.00
106716	TRAILING ARM BUSHING	1	$14.00
106907	COIL WIRE  OEM	1	$4.00
108165	H.D.RELAY OEM	1	$10.00
108239	CONSOLE CENTER BLK	1	$92.00
108358	TAILIGHT DRIVER SIDE	1	$117.00
108359	TAILIGHT PASS SIDE	1	$117.00
108555	GLOVE BOX LATCH	3	$12.00
108587	FRONT SHOCK  OEM	1	$42.12
109040	BRAKE M.C. SVC KIT	1	$15.15
109277	ENERTIA SWITCH	2	$49.00
110085	FUEL PUMP  OEM	2	$164.49
	BOOK "S.S. ILLUSION"	1	$250.00
  PLEASE E MAIL ME YOUR REQUEST  

THE SANDMAN

 RALPH

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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 08:52:10 -0500 (EST)
From: "Sean P Mullally" 
Subject: DML: Pictures of Columbus event

If anyone is instrested, I have put some photographs up from the Columbus 
event
on my web site. Some shot of inside the warehouse and a couple shots of 
some of
the DeLoreans that were there Sunday. Check it out at:

http://www.msu.edu/~mullally/dmc-tour.html

- -sean

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Date: 17 Nov 1997 08:36:00 -0600
From: "Kemp, Nick (MN10)" 
Subject: DML: Delco Alt's ....

I too replaced my original alternator with a Delco alternator but rather 
than modify the Delorean mounting bracket, I modified the Delco 
alternator. 
 That way if I ever want to put the original back on I can simply 
reattach 
it.  The Delorean wiring also remains the same. 

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Date: 17 Nov 1997 10:02:52 -0600
From: "Kemp, Nick (MN10)" 
Subject: DML: Was the Delorean front suspension from a Ford ??????

While looking in a car repair manual for Ford Mustangs & Pintos and 
Mercury 
Bobcats & Carpi, I noticed that the drawing for the front lower control 
arm 
is amazingly similar to the Delorean lower control arm.  For that matter, 
the whole suspension looks very close to the Delorean.  The upper control 
arm looks a little different where it attaches the frame.  The manual 
indicates the years were 75 - 78 Mustang and 75 - 80 Bobcat & Pinto.

Since these are only drawings in a shop manual, they could be way off 
from 
the D's parts but I thought I'd throw it out to the crowd to see if there 
are any other opinions.  I'm thinking of heading out to the local junk 
yard 
to see what I can find out but with winter upon us here in MN it may need 
to 
wait a half year :-(

If anyone can take a closer look, let me know what you find.

Nick Kemp

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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:05:16 -0500
From: Mike Griese 
Subject: DML: Headlights

I think the contoured headlamps are from a
Nissan Sentra ca 1985 or so.  I recall reading
an article about the conversion somewhere.  It
might even have been in DeLorean World.

Michael A. Griese
IBM Storage Systems Division
Rochester, MN  55901
Internet: magriese(AT)us.ibm.com
voice:     (507)253-1853
fax:        (507)253-2880

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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:11:46 -0500
From: Aldo.Buono(AT)phila.gov
Subject: DML: John Z. De Lorean's Mailing Address

John Z. De Lorean
P.O. Box 285
Pluckemin NJ 07978

From:
Aldo Buono
De Lorean MidAtlantic, President
DOC
VIN DEGULL (PA)\

     HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 11:19:45 -0700
From: raddad(AT)cmn.net
Subject: Re: DML: Headlights

I, too, recall the car in question and remember it as having headlights
from some model Nissan.  It was pictured in an old DeLorean World.  I'll
check my library tonight at home.

The Rad Dad

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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 19:22:41 -0500 (EST)
From: KKoncelik(AT)aol.com
Subject: DML: DeLorean for Sale OHIO

I thank all of you for your response on Jody DeLoreans car for sale that I
posted on the internet.  I must have at least a dozen people call.  

As a result I was requested to list another one for someone not on the 
net so
here goes
Year 1983
VIN SCEPT26T1DD016640
MFG DATE AUG 1982
GREY UPHOLSTERY
MILEAGE 24,283
TRANSMISSION  STANDARD SHIFT  5 SPEED
BODY - DMC ACCENT STRIPE
TIRES NEW MICHLINS- PREVENTS FISH TAILING, NO FLAT SPOTS, BETTER RIDE
NEW BATTERY

HEADLINER REPLACED
A/C RECHARGED

DELOREAN COMES WITH THE FOLLOWING

DELOREAN NYLON RACING JACKET
RIGHT PASSENGER DOOR -NEW EXTRA $1,000
COVER
ORIGINAL PARTS IDENTIFICATION MANUAL-ORIGONAL BINDER
DELOREAN WORKSHOP MANUAL
TECHNICAL INFORMATION MANUAL
PARTS SERVICE MANUAL
ORIGINAL SALESMAN PRESENTATION BINDER
ORIGINAL DELOREAN SALES BROCHURE
ORIGONAL PRE DELIVERY INSPECTION LIST
ACCESSORIES LIST

PRICE $21,500

CALL PAUL (AT)614-885-4127

I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THIS CAR OTHER THAN WHAT IS LISTED HERE SO PLEASE 
CALL
PAUL IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.

ALSO JODY DELOREANS CAR IS STILL AVAILABLE
CALL SAM GALLETTI (AT) 216-226-2250 
VIN02764 ASKING $26,900 OBO

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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 21:21:17 -0500 (EST)
From: FHALS(AT)aol.com
Subject: DML: UK & Andersen settle DeLorean

I just wanted to pass this along - in case others haven't seen the closing
chapter on DeLorean's past.  Forwarning it is a generally negative piece 
on
the company - Peter

c The Associated Press  

BELFAST, Northern Ireland (AP) - Nov 14 - The British government and 
auditors
for the now-defunct DeLorean Motor Co. have finally closed the book one of
Northern Ireland's biggest-ever investment disasters. 

``Both parties have agreed that it is time to bring this complex and
protracted litigation to an end,'' the government and Arthur Andersen & 
Co.
said in a joint statement Friday - 12 years after the government sued
Andersen for negligence. 

Neither side publicly disclosed the terms, but local estimates of the 
payout
Andersen will make to the government ranged from $31 million to $37 
million. 

The government's legal bill, for cases pursued on both sides of the 
Atlantic,
was estimated at $25 million. It had sought up to $300 million from 
Andersen,
the accounting arm of Andersen Worldwide. 

In 1976, the government wooed the maverick American carmaker John 
DeLorean to
Northern Ireland, impressed by his promise to create a 2,000-worker plant
between deprived Protestant and Catholic sections of southwest Belfast. 

DeLorean's solid-steel, gull-winged Americar won a cult following and an
ironic place in the ``Back to the Future'' films. But his dream of 
building a
sports-car empire to rival the American big three automakers proved a
nightmare for the British taxpayer. 

The Belfast plant closed after four years in 1982 with the loss of about
1,500 jobs. A year later, the government concluded it spent $130 million 
to
prop up the venture, and that Northern Ireland had suffered incalculable
losses because the fiasco would deter other investors. 

In 1985, it filed suit against DeLorean's accountants, alleging Andersen
should have done more to warn the government that DeLorean was on the 
road to
nowhere. 

DeLorean was acquitted on charges of cocaine trafficking in San Diego 
after
the company's collapse and lives in New Jersey. 

In August, an appeals court in Cincinnati ruled that DeLorean must sell 
his
personal assets - including what's left of his 434-acre estate - to pay
millions of dollars in legal debts to one of his former lawyers. 

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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 23:45:39 -0500 (EST)
From: Hotblack Desiato 
Subject: Re: DML: Headlights

> 
> I, too, recall the car in question and remember it as having headlights
> from some model Nissan.  It was pictured in an old DeLorean World.  I'll
> check my library tonight at home.
> 

The stock DMC headlights look suspiciously like the headlights on my VW
Scirocco (I like to pretend it's a D). Look at

http://ftn.net/~scirocco/submissions/smokinn.jpg

I wonder if the European Scirocco headlights would fit? They are the
separate reflector/H1 type, and are availible for about $300 US. Look at

http://ftn.net/~scirocco/submissions/warlord.jpg

or

http://activated.virtualscope.com/etrik/faq/

Dan

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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 09:53:13 -0600
From: "Tom Hullett" 
Subject: Hi Beams

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Hi All:

I am a newbee to your list and as of yesterday also an owner.  I bought =
6785.  I have one problem I am going to have to clear up before I can =
license it in the state of Arkansas.  It must pass an inspection and one =
of the things that must work is the hi beams.  I went through the =
owner's manual that describes the instrument panel lights that show =
which beams are in use but nowhere does it tell how to activate them.  I =
am assuming that they are controlled by the turn indicator light lever.  =
If I move this lever towards the dash with the low beams on they go off =
and none of the head lights are burning.  Is this what should turn them =
on and if so do you have a clue where the pronlem may be?

Thanks for any help you can give.

Tom

V. T. Hullett
HC 64, Box 216-H
Flippin, AR  72634
(870)453-5335
thullett(AT)southshore.com

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Hi All:
 
I am a newbee to your list and as of yesterday also = an=20 owner.  I bought 6785.  I have one problem I am going to have = to clear=20 up before I can license it in the state of Arkansas.  It must pass = an=20 inspection and one of the things that must work is the hi beams.  I = went=20 through the owner's manual that describes the instrument panel lights = that show=20 which beams are in use but nowhere does it tell how to activate = them.  I am=20 assuming that they are controlled by the turn indicator light = lever.  If I=20 move this lever towards the dash with the low beams on they go off and = none of=20 the head lights are burning.  Is this what should turn them on and = if so do=20 you have a clue where the pronlem may be?
 
Thanks for any help you can give.
 
Tom
 
V. T. = Hullett
HC 64,=20 Box 216-H
Flippin, AR  72634
(870)453-5335
thullett(AT)southshore.com
- ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01BCF407.C99588E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 97 09:39:55 -0000 From: James Espey Subject: DML: Fwd: Hi Beams Please remember to send all postings to "dmcnews(AT)world.std.com"! - ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------------- Date: 11/18 3:53 PM Received: 11/18 9:29 AM From: Tom Hullett, thullett(AT)southshore.com To: dmcnews-outgoing(AT)world.std.com Hi All: I am a newbee to your list and as of yesterday also an owner. I bought 6785. I have one problem I am going to have to clear up before I can license it in the state of Arkansas. It must pass an inspection and one of the things that must work is the hi beams. I went through the owner's manual that describes the instrument panel lights that show which beams are in use but nowhere does it tell how to activate them. I am assuming that they are controlled by the turn indicator light lever. If I move this lever towards the dash with the low beams on they go off and none of the head lights are burning. Is this what should turn them on and if so do you have a clue where the pronlem may be? Thanks for any help you can give. Tom V. T. Hullett HC 64, Box 216-H Flippin, AR 72634 (870)453-5335 thullett(AT)southshore.com - ----------------- End Forwarded Message ----------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 11:55:19 -0500 From: Mike Substelny Subject: DML: Hi-beam headlight troubleshooting Tom Hullet asked about his Hi-beam headlights: > I am assuming that they are controlled by the turn indicator light lever. > If I move this lever towards the dash with the low beams on they go > off and none of the head lights are burning. The hi-beams are indeed controlled by this lever. When the lever is in the middle position the hi-beams are off. When you push forward they go on and stay on. When you pull back the lights will flash on and then go off when you release the lever. While the low-beams are on you should see a green indicator light near the top of the instrument pod. When the hi-beams are on a blue indicator light should come on. Are your indicators working properly? Your problem might be the hi-beam relay in the relay compartment. This relay will interchange with a few of the other relays, so a previous owner may have simply swapped a bad relay from a more critical system as a quick-and-dirty repair. You will find the relay compartment behind the passenger seat, under the cargo deck. The first issue of the DMC News 'Zine contained a nice diagram of the relay compartment so that you can check which relays operate the headlights. You can download the 'Zine (plus get a link to the free Adobe Acrobat Reader you will need) at: www.dmcnews.com Of course the problem might not be in the relay, but that is where I would start. - - Mike Substelny ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 15:02:21 -0500 From: John Murray Subject: DML: DeLorean prices in FL Last week I posted a message about 'D' prices and VIN's and the conditions of 2 cars for sale in Florida. I got tons of email with questions of these two cars. I have looked at 2 more that are for sale here in Florida, so here goes. 1981 Auto with grey leather, 9,700 miles. VIN #004625. The body looked good(no dings)but needs to have f & r facias painted and louvers refinished(faded).Wheels looked good with orig NCT Goodyears. Has plastic coolant overflow. Runs fair but has lot of vibration noise, but starts right up. Owner bought car and had fuel system problems fixed by D1. Interior has a small amt of sun fading, but not bad. Headliner shows evidence of leaking roof(water stained) Seats are ok but looks to have more wear than the 9,700 miles show. Driers side window is very slow and pass. dosent move. Brakes need turning of rotors and new pads. The frame looks clean(no rust) but the tranny is leaking from somewhere, and there was evidence of coolant splatter in engine bay. Advertised price $18,000, but owner said he would accept $14,500. The second car was the nicest DeLorean I have ever seen. 1981 black int, Automatic w/gas flap. VIN#002009(I think)45,000 miles. Body was perfect(all panels straight and lined up just right) and interior was just as nice, owner said seat leather was new(looked great) Orig radio was still there!!And worked!! Windows worked perfectly and quickly. Nice Perelli tires. It started up without hesitation and sounded great, all gauges worked perfectly and it didnt run hot. The A/C fans cycled on and off quite frequently(is that normal?) about every 30 to 45 seconds while A/C was on. It had steel coolant overflow and included with it was the orig plastic one!!This car was super clean, no frame rust and shocks looked good and clean. Owner wouldnt let me drive it without showing him the money, but I suppose it drives the way it looks. Asking price $15,500 and in my opinion worth every penny. I am traveling to New York on the 24th and will be visiting with PJ Grady's to see Rob's cars for sale and to check out his shop. The reason I didnt buy the above car is because I need to see what Rob has first. If anyone is interested in these 2 cars, email me for further info. I will return home on Dec 2nd, so I will answer no email till I have made a decision on which to purchase. Hope this helps someone. John jwmurray(AT)gate.net VIN-almost there ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 20:21:43 -0500 From: John Murray Subject: DML: DeLorean modifications I have a few questions about performance modifications for the DeLorean DMC12. They are: #1) The euro springs: Are they stiffer and offer better handeling than the cut and swap front & rear method?(I know lower center of gravity means better handeling, but...) #2) Engine swaps: Anyone out there do this? What engine did you use? Which trans did you use? Any complications? Any comments?What does everyone think of the Grand National engine?Would that fit?Could the DeLorean 5spd still be used with that? #3) The twin turbo system: I know there are some of you out there that have done this and that you love it but, how does it compare to the single turbo system? What are the boost pressures? What are the HP figures? #4) Anyone out there done big break swaps?(12 or 13 inch discs) Larger and wider wheels?(maybe 16 or 17 inch wheels) The design of the 'D' frame and 4 wheel independent suspension with 4 wheel discs is excellent, compared to an american sports car MacPhereson strut suspension, and deserves major horsepower to complement it. Thanks in advance for the comments and answers! John ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 03:19:56 +0000 (GMT) From: Martin Gutkowski Subject: DML: Birmingham NEC Car Show. Hi, Well, this is an e-mail to get my revenge on all you going to fun shows and playing with your D's in front of crowds of adoring fans. Being where I am, joining in is a little impractical. However, for those who have seen the "Back From The Future" video, you will be acquainted with the Classic and Sports Car show at the Birmingham National Exhibition Centre, England. Well, I was there on Saturday and Sunday, helping out and providing some effects lighting for the stand, and also seeing the object of my desire for the first time. I and a couple of friends drove down from York leaving at 2:30am to arrive at the NEC for 7. On two hours' sleep, we set our lights up, then stood back to admire the two cars on display. One, VIN #5959, owned by Dave Howarth, Grey Interior, May '81 (I think). Recently restored from the vandalised wreck that it was when bought. The other, VIN #12179 is obviously a sister of the RHD car mentioned in the 'Zine. Same production date, similar VIN, owned by the Hooper family who were at the Eurofest and bought this car two weeks after. Apparently this car was one of SIX pre-pro RHD's used for testing including body-repair techniques and consequently had a number of curious blemishes about the body dating back to the factory. The two days went really well (aside from feeling like death for most of Saturday due to lack of sleep - my friend paid homage to the comfort of the passenger seat in Dave's car by crashing out on it later in the day :-) Comments like "this is the best stand I've seen at the show" weren't uncommon. I learnt a number of interesting facts from various people at the show, and I shall pop a couple down here: 1) The DMC-12 was built for the American market AFTER the emissions laws came into force in the US, but before the UK, therefore to run a D here, it is perfectly legal to remove Catalytic converters, lambda sensors and whatever other control items there may be to simply putting the exhaust through the silencer with a couple of custom-made pipes. The figure I was quoted by one Iam Titley (who also helped on the stand and who's VIN I've forgotten) was that it increases a stock engine's output to 200HP... 2) During all the bad feeling following the closure of the factory, a number of cases of body panels and the original molds for the underbody were dumped in the docks in Ireland and ARE STILL THERE TODAY. The authorities want a bit much to fish them out, but what if one of the cases held a load of front-left fenders...? Oh well... that's by no means all of the story, but apart from getting to drive Dave's car after the show and picking up one of the original DMC tie-clips given to the executives in '82, the rest is simply my pleasure at finally getting involved with this lovely machine other than sitting in front of my computer discussing it with you all across the pond. Cheers for reading... Martin ===========================ooo000OOO000ooo=========================== "FUN:- The employment of time in a profitless and non-practical way" - Kryten 2X4B-523P, Series 4000 Service Mechanoid Martin Gutkowski 24 Second Avenue Heworth York, YO3 0RS ENGLAND Tel: +44(0)1904 424958 Mobile: +44 (0)976 619759 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Nov 97 14:29:44 -0000 From: James Espey Subject: DML: Dare to Dream video After nearly two months, my copy of the "Dare to Dream" video arrived yesterday in the mail. I plugged it into the VCR and watched it immediately. The video consists solely of an interview JZD gave to an interviewer from the UK in New York sometime in 1996/early 1997. The tape runs about an hour long and touches on JZD's career with GM, his marriage to Christina Ferrare (who was on one of those newsmagazine shows a couple nights ago - did anyone catch it besides me?), and the DeLorean Motor Company debacle. My girlfriend and I had fun watching his mannerisms and facial expressions as he answered the interviewers questions. I am no expert on the interpretation of body language, so I won't speculate, but I think it would be interesting to get a professional opinion on it. For me it was worth the $30 to get another piece of the "stuff" that goes with having the DeLorean. It'd make a nice Christmas gift, too. "Senator" Mike Pack has ordering information, and since I no longer have it handy, I'm hoping he'll read this and post it for me - thanks Mike! James Espey ------------------------------ End of dmcnews-digest V3 #304 *****************************

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