Saturday, November 14 1998 Volume 03 : Number 441
In this issue:
Re: DML: New owner - hello, door struts and shop manual
DML: [admin] DML #439 (again)
DML: Re: Stainless Steel Panels, But for how long?
Re: DML: Stainless Steel Panels, also engine swap
Re: DML: Stainless Steel Panels, also engine swap
DML: [admin] Server's moving!
DML: Re: V-8 In DeLoreans
DML: RCDMC
DML: MIRRORS
Re: DML: Stainless Steel Panels, also engine swap
DML: Re: Stainless Steel Panels, But for how long?
DML: Re: New owner - hello, door struts and shop manual
DML: Re: RCDMC
DML: Dealer stripes
DML: Re: RCDMC
DML: Re: MIRRORS
Re: DML: Dealer stripes
DML: RE: Dealer stripes
DML: Starting problem
Re: DML: Dealer stripes
DML: Brake system rebuild
Re: DML: Re: RCDMC
DML: Thin gray scotchcal stripe
DML: Chevy V-8? Ford 289 cu.
DML: A Bunch of DeLoreans
Re: DML: Dealer stripes
Re: DML: Starting problem
DML: V-8's/modifying
Re: DML: Dealer stripes
DML: Re: Starting problem
DML: stripes...
DML: Re: Re: MIRRORS
DML: TORSION BAR ADJUSTMENT VIDEO.
DML: Re: MIRRORS
Re: DML: Starting problem
DML: Re: Starting problem
DML: RE: remote door release wiring
DML: The zine003
DML: Fender removal...
DML: Door ding
Re: DML: A Bunch of DeLoreans
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:36:44 EST From: JSteuben@aol.com Subject: Re: DML: New owner - hello, door struts and shop manual
Hi Ben, Congratulations. I could have saved some money when I replaced my door struts by buying the complete package on the day. I Almost lost an ear (from the trunk struts letting go) before I realized that a complete change was in order. Please get them from one of the 'D' suppliers, there is a difference. As for shop manuals (and parts lists) again all of the suppliers have them for sale. I suggest that you bite the bullet and buy a complete set of DeLorean Worlds from the DOA. They are by far, the best reference guide and 'how to' that exists for the 'D'. Good luck, and enjoy your car, Joe
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 98 10:56:34 -0000 From: James Espey <espey@dmcnews.com> Subject: DML: [admin] DML #439 (again)
The listserver was able to regenerate #439 again last night, and it appears to have come through okay - if you still need it, however, let me know ane I can forward you a copy. Thank you!
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:21:15 -0500 From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM@cesmtp.ccf.org> Subject: DML: Re: Stainless Steel Panels, But for how long?
I don't think you need to worry about the stainless panels disintegrating any time soon. The stainless 1936 Ford in the Crawford Auto Museum looks brand new.
This company: http://futurepkg.home.mindspring.com/index.htm makes Time Capsules out of 304 stainless steel. Time capsules are intended to last for centuries or millenia!
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 14:01:15 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Wilson <fluffy@snurgle.org> Subject: Re: DML: Stainless Steel Panels, also engine swap
On Wed, 11 Nov 1998, Robert Rooney wrote:
> I just read an old article that I found on one of the web pages. It says > that the stainless steel panels on the cars will last at least 25 years > without rusting. Quick question, what happens after the 25 years are up?
Nothing. The original plan was for DMC to offer a 25-year warranty on the panels against rusting. This was something that JZD thought up as a promotional gimmick. They didn't offer the warranty, but the panels still aren't prone to rusting unless they encounter a reducing agent, which will separate the component metals and eliminate the stainless property. Chlorine supposedly is bad for them too.
On the subject of engine swaps: I have also heard of one person putting a Mazda rotary engines in their DeLorean. The guy that did this used one of the old ones that doesn't produce any more HP than the PRV, so there probably isn't any performance gain. A rotary is a good choice for the D however because it has such a high amount of power for its size. One of the rotaries for a 3rd generation RX7 would cost a lot, but would probably work quite nicely. Note that I've never seen one but it is small displacement and if it's anything like the 1st generation one it will fit.
I've heard rumours (was it on the stainless steel frame page?) that the stock frame has some limitations that make it unsafe to use with more than about 200HP. Anyone know anything about this? It's also been discussed on the list that the stock automatic transmission is unable to handle very much HP, although the 5-speed is sturdier.
Someone also suggested the Eagle Premier PRV version as a good choice for an engine swap. It produces 170+ HP in its stock configuration. I wonder if Volvo's new 236-HP turbocharged 2.3L 5 cylinder might not fit, too. It is not a large engine but seems (in the Volvo) to have a lot of plumbing that could be a problem, and the turbo is bolted to the side and sticks out. It may or may not fit but it is also a lot of power in a small displacement.
Porsche's 6-cylinder "boxer" that they use in the boxter and new 911 is another engine that "I think" might fit, although (presumably) very expensive.
Other engines to consider if you're looking for more power than stock but less than NASCAR would be modern 4-cylinder turbos. Don't laugh, they are doing some phenomenal things with these even in stock engines. Look at the Mitsubishi Eclipse, for example. They have a 2.0L 4 cylinder turbo that produces 210 HP. On a car as (comparatively) light as the D you ought to be able to get a 6 second 0-60 time with something that small and powerful. Problems with size and weight associated with V8's are eliminated with a killer micro engine like that, plus you get to keep some fuel economy to boot. A rear differential change might be in order to counter the lack of low end torque that these engines have, however.
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:11:02 -0600 From: "James DeBroeck" <executor@mail.usmo.com> Subject: Re: DML: Stainless Steel Panels, also engine swap
a quick note on engines. the new 99 Lotus Esprit has a totally new 8 cyl. engine that measures only 28 X 23 X 24 inches. it pounds out 350 hp and a reported top speed of 178. it's a 3.5 liter 32 valve and weighs 485 lbs., btw. perhaps the DeLorean's lotus roots would make the engine worth looking into as a replacement. granted it will probably be expensive, but it might be worth a shot. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Wilson <fluffy@snurgle.org> To: DMC News Mailing List <dmcnews@world.std.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 1:01 PM Subject: Re: DML: Stainless Steel Panels, also engine swap
(SNIP)
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:03:16 -0000 From: James Espey <espey@dmcnews.com> Subject: DML: [admin] Server's moving!
I am moving the DMC-News website to a new server this week. THIS WILL BE TRANSPARENT TO ALMOST EVERYONE. However, there will probably be some broken links after the move, please email me when you notice them - thanks!
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 08:58:41 +0400 From: Bob Brandys <oehcs@flash.net> Subject: DML: Re: V-8 In DeLoreans
Since I have installed a V-8 in my DeLorean, I can tell you that it makes the DeLorean into a Real Sports Car. It will challenge Z-28s, mustangs, corvettes, porshe. I hope to have the performance specifics 0-60 etc.1/8 mile, calculated top speed. (I won't drive over 100 mph), maximum 'g' force, etc. available next year.
The following rules must be followed when installing a V-8
1. Only use an aluminum V-8. The F/R weight ratio of the DeLorean prohibits adding any more weight to the rear end. (Unless you like driving only on the rear wheels!!!!) 2. Limit horsepower to around 280 with 300 ft lbs torque. In order to used these maximums you will have to reinforce the rear frame. 3. Use as short a V-8 as possible. A Rover V-8 is the shortest I have found. 4. Move the battery to the front bonnet. You need the weight up there. 5. Install a larger radiator and coolant pipes. 6. You must fabricate custom motor mounts with 4 engine suspension locations to distribute the extra torque. 7. Install a 4 speed automatic with a 'bump stick' shifter for ease and fun of driving.
If you want to know more about this conversion 3 articles are being printed in DeLorean World. See the car at web sit delorean-midwest.org
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 00:36:40 -0800 From: "lseiler@radiance.com" <lseiler@radiance.com> Subject: DML: RCDMC
Last Friday I uploaded the pictures of the DeLorean 24th scale Radio Control model I have been working on. Thanks to the world wide wait it has taken til' this evening to get it on line. Well it's working now, so if you are interested have a look!
http://www.totalimmersion.com/rckit00.html
Will take you right to the introduction page. The pictures show both the radio chases and a temp plastic body. When complete there will be glass windows and the rear louver. The radio antenna will be located where the rear mounted radio antenna is on the full sized DeLorean.
These models will be in kit form, but assembly will be very easy and simple, a bit more than snap together but not much.
Lee
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:45:32 -0700 From: mike atkinson <mikeatk@concentric.net> Subject: DML: MIRRORS
I have a quick question about the mirror control switch. The mirror switch on our car is completely dead. Since looking around under and through other things on the car that don't work it seems that most of the time its because the wires have come loose. I'm assuming this has happened here as well.
I checked the archives and couldn't find anything specific about why they usually don't work and was wondering if anybody had any suggestions. Do I really have to take the doors apart. oh boy.
Thanks
Mike
VIN 16232
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 06:16:32 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: DML: Stainless Steel Panels, also engine swap
Bill, Just thought you would be interested to know that the Wankel 12B two rotor engine was one of the first power plants considered for the DeLorean. The rumors you heard about the auto trans, and frame not being able to handle a higher power engine are incorrect. Our failure rate records, going back to 1982, indicate no increase in failure rates to either transmissions or frames attached to engines modified for increased power. Finally, on the subject of increased performance, we have only one suggestion; turbo charge the stock PRV. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 06:26:34 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Stainless Steel Panels, But for how long?
Robert, The 304 grade stainless steel used in the DeLorean body panels will last indefinitely. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 06:51:13 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: New owner - hello, door struts and shop manual
Ben, There are crossovers for front and rear struts but not the door struts. When you place your order with P.J. Grady ask for a workshop and parts manual they are readily available. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:23:38 -0500 From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM@cesmtp.ccf.org> Subject: DML: Re: RCDMC
Wow, Lee! For a "Cheep carpet toy" that RC DeLorean looks very impressive. I expected you to vacuum form a body out of clear PVC (like many RC bodies), but that prototype *appears* to have an injection molded body and custom molded wheels!
That's pretty darn cool!
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:00:05 -0600 From: "James DeBroeck" <executor@mail.usmo.com> Subject: DML: Dealer stripes
I was reading over the DeLorean FAQ as provided by Mr. Grimsrud and came = across something in the documents sections. It was a scan of the dealer = installed options booklet. It shows a picture of the black dealer = stripes and also something called a "Grey Scotchcal thinline = sidestripe". I've never seen this on any DeLorean that I know of. Does = anyone have it, or was it something that was never implemented?
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:37:24 EST From: Namaste12x@aol.com Subject: DML: Re: RCDMC
This Rc Car is such an awsome Idea, I just took a look at the pics, good work LEE!! I can't wat to put in an order for one of these bad boys!!! Later guys!!!
Namaste12x@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:05:40 -0600 From: "Jameel Ahed" <ahed@uiuc.edu> Subject: DML: Re: MIRRORS
Dear List,
I have a question about my mirrors. The right mirror seems to have
water spots on it and no matter what I try to clean it with, the spots
don't
come off. What should I try?
Jameel
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:45:13 -0700 From: raddad@cmn.net Subject: Re: DML: Dealer stripes
James
Yes, they were both implemented as dealer installed options. Not too many of them were installed, but I have seen both.
Dick Ryan
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 17:10:29 -0500 From: Jack Stiefel <dmc-flux@geocities.com> Subject: DML: RE: Dealer stripes
At the Cincy show this year, the car next to us had the second stripe on = it. I was most impressed with it. I also am in touch with a lady who = has 6 DeLoreans she will be selling soon (yes I said six), and one of = them has the stripe as well.
John (Jack) Stiefel DeLorean Vin Number 3461 Visit Blade Runner Tackle at WWW.BladeRunnerTackle.Com Or visit my DeLorean Page at WWW.Geocities.com/rodeodrive/8601/delorean.html Remember a tackle box isn't complete without a little Blade Runner...
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 17:41:28 EST From: LovDMC12@aol.com Subject: DML: Starting problem
My DeLorean has a strange starting problem that is giving my mechanic fits. The car starts fine when it is cold and when it has just been run; however, if the car has been run and then sits for approximately 20 minutes, it won't start.
The fuel pump and fuel filter are new. The car is maintaining 40 PSI in the fuel lines over night and 60 PSI when running, so it isn't the accumulator. The cold start valve is working and gets fuel. The fuel pump relay has been replaced, and the problem is still there. Also, when it is warm, the car idles at 1500 RPM. When cold, it idles up and down around 800 RPM. It takes it about 5 minutes to warm up and idle at a consistent pace. After being driven, it idles at 1500.
What could be the problem? My mechanic has talked to Rob Grady and called the Bosch hotline and still can't get it to run right, and he's worked on DeLoreans before, so he isn't inexperienced. Any advice would be appreciated.
Brian Henson VIN 1597
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 18:40:31 -0500 From: James Senft <jpsenft@erols.com> Subject: Re: DML: Dealer stripes
My D has the grey thinline sidestripes. A nice subtle graphic, about 3/4" in height, running the length of the side, with DMC in one break. Looks very nice. Jim #5832
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 17:46:31 -0600 From: "Lane Ongstad" <longstad@flash.net> Subject: DML: Brake system rebuild
Greetings fellow DMLers. First post for a long time lurker -- But now I = have a question for the more technically oriented members of the list -- = The problem: My brakes feel a little mushy - When sitting at a stop = light I can feel the pedal gradually "sink". It doesn't bottom out and = pumps to the top quickly when released and reapplyed once. Also no = stopping problems on the road as yet. =20
It sounds like a master cylinder problem (diaphram bypass leak?) but, = since I need to get into the system its probably a good idea to work on = the entire system. My plan is to replace the master cylinder, add = stainless steel lines (thanks Marty!) and new fluid. My questions: 1) How about going to silicone fluid to replace the DOT3/DOT4? Seems = like a good idea to me, Any known downsides / experiences?? 2) Assuming I buy a "new" master cylinder from DMC how reliable might = it be given that the workings are basically 18 years old?? Am I better = off with a rebuild? Or do any of the other retailers (PJ / DMC1????) = sell a more effective unit?? How about cross reference or other = specialty parts suppliers?? Again, I'm looking for your experiences and = advice. 3) Finally, Any other performance improvement suggestions? Since I = will basically have everything apart I would like to do it right the = first time through.
thanks to all
Lane Ongstad vin # 06624
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:05:21 -0800 From: "lseiler@radiance.com" <lseiler@radiance.com> Subject: Re: DML: Re: RCDMC
At 12:23 PM 11/12/98 -0500, you wrote: >Wow, Lee! For a "Cheep carpet toy" that RC DeLorean looks very >impressive. I expected you to vacuum form a body out of clear PVC (like >many RC bodies), but that prototype *appears* to have an injection >molded body and custom molded wheels! > >That's pretty darn cool! > >- Mike Substelny > > Send postings to "dmcnews@world.std.com" > Before posting, search the archives! www.dmcnews.com/search.html > Thank you! > > Hi Mike,
well yes the prototype is an injection mold, and there will be resin bodies as well. The whole idea is that it should meet two requirements,
1. Be a reasonably good curbside model 2. Be RC controlled.
Once the Limited editions done we can start the RC production.
Lee
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 17:53:09 -0000 From: James Espey <espey@dmcnews.com> Subject: DML: Thin gray scotchcal stripe
I have always like the gray stripe better than the big wide black one. I bought one of these a few years back but have never put it on. My local detail shop is hesitant to put it one because it is so old - I do not know if they are still available anywhere...
I got mine from DeLorean One when Ed would still talk to me, it was about $110, I recall.
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 19:54:30 -0500 From: zoso37@juno.com (Rick J Roosa) Subject: DML: Chevy V-8? Ford 289 cu.
Hey Delorean fans does anyone know what cubic inch that chevy engine was, read about a customizer who is attempting to fit a 289 cu. Ford engine from 65-65 Shelby Mustang w/paxon supercharger into his DMC. Is this possible, and if it is how much modification is nessary.
Thanx Rick
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 19:20:29 -0600 (CST) From: franka@midwest.net (Frank Augustine) Subject: DML: A Bunch of DeLoreans
On November 8th, a group of devoted DeLorean owners gathered in Mt.Vernon, Illinois ... There were NINE DeLoreans and their owners from Illinois there. If you live in Southern Illinois contact me on getting with us. There are NO dues in our casual get togethers. Other owners outside of Southern Illinois are welcome as well.
I've put some pictures on my site of this afternoon ... We certainly turned a few eyes as we cruised out to the local Sonic for a bite to eat.
See more at:
http://www.angelfire.com/il/fotoz/clubnews.html
The picture of nine DeLoreans all lined up at the Sonic was awesome ...
see ya ... Frank
Vin# 4181 franka@midwest.net
Oh Yeah, I'm the one in the brown leather coat <G>
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 20:34:44 EST From: KayoOng@aol.com Subject: Re: DML: Dealer stripes
James,
The wide black dealer stripe are no longer available.
The thin gray strip is possible still in stock and available from DeLorean One. I got mine from them 2 1/2 years ago and I have installed it on my DeLorean. It is nice when applied "correctly." It cuts the car in half and gives it a different look. You would need a "keen eye" and patience to put them on. You will also have to remove the mirrors to do a "correct" installation on your DeLorean. Otherwise is it an easy project.
Kayo Ong #05508 Lic. 9D NY
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 20:28:27 EST From: Ad8302@aol.com Subject: Re: DML: Starting problem
In a message dated 11/12/98 8:09:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, LovDMC12@AOL.COM writes:
<< The car starts fine when it is cold and when it has just been run; however, if the car has been run and then sits for approximately 20 minutes, it won't start. >> Mine did this same thing you describe with the same symptoms. It turned out to be a bad fuel Distributer. Most of the time it would run but then would suddenly cut off and not start again for a while.....Took us forever to find the problem, checked everything you did then found this...
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 18:01:58 +0000 From: "darryl@techline.com" <darryl@techline.com> Subject: DML: V-8's/modifying
As the owner of a supercharged Chevy powered DeLorean, I feel somewhat obligated to respond to this latest thread. Digest $439 contained some of my thoughts on this subject, but apparently not many of us got it due to some glitch (if this were DOA, I'd have a theory on that - just kidding, James). I have heard of Chev V-8's being installed, and even saw a photo in DeLorean World once, but when I did mine I opted for the shorter/lighter 4.3 V-6. With the blower drive I still had to make a small notch in the rear closing panel, and it clears the rear frame crossmember by less than an inch. Performance is incredible, handling superb (its lowered considerably), it runs very cool, and I have been driving it almost daily weather permitting for 3 years now.
Would I recommend others do this? No. First, I modified an abandoned, vandalized hulk that cost me around $4,000. I would never have considered doing this to a good car. But mostly, I hate to say it but I don't think a lot of those contemplating this task have a clue how to pull it off. Its a lot of work and requires a thorough knowledge of the mechanics of both the DeLorean and the donor car, plus some engineering skills. As a hotrodder for 35 years I had a pretty good idea what I was doing, and it still took me 5 years (with some interruptions...). But if you are really determined..... Next time I will be looking very strongly at a Cad Northstar.
Hey, I've got 2 kids in college. Wave some green at me and save yourself a lot of work and time. (JUST KIDDING - IT IS NOT FOR SALE).
Darryl Tinnerstet Specialty Automotive 4 LaBelle Lane McCleary, WA 98557 PH: 360-495-4640 FAX: 360-495-4680
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:21:57 EST From: JOHNMIDD1@aol.com Subject: Re: DML: Dealer stripes
Anyone have pictures of these stripes on a DeLorean that they could post?
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:09:24 -0800 From: "Dave Price" <davep2@clipper.net> Subject: DML: Re: Starting problem
>My DeLorean has a strange starting problem that is giving my mechanic >fits. >The car starts fine when it is cold and when it has just been run; >however, if >the car has been run and then sits for approximately 20 minutes, it won't >start.
If the engine isn't cranking, and you have an automatic, it could be the neutral safety switch. I had to bypass mine to eliminate my "warm start" problem. Go figure..
>replaced, and the problem is still there. Also, when it is warm, the car >idles at 1500 RPM. When cold, it idles up and down around 800 RPM. It >takes >it about 5 minutes to warm up and idle at a consistent pace. After being >driven, it idles at 1500. > My car idles at 1500, and I don't have any idle problems, so I doubt this would be the case for you. 1500 is twice what it should be idling at, and is most likely an ECU failure, but could be nothing more than a throttle linkage problem. I have yet to diagnose mine.
Good luck!
- - Dave
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:43:14 -0600 From: "Jameel Ahed" <ahed@uiuc.edu> Subject: DML: stripes...
My car has the wide stripe. www.students.uiuc.edu/~ahed/delorean.html go to the More pictures of my car link... if you have not viewed the Major Surgery page... check it out.
Oh, my page has an audio file from Back To The Future so I guess my site is rated PG Jameel
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 11:08:27 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Re: MIRRORS
Jameel, The water spots are between the glass and the glass backing so your probably stuck with the spots. Check with P.J. Grady for a substitute replacement. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services dmcjoe@att.net
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:37:47 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: TORSION BAR ADJUSTMENT VIDEO.
Over the years we have had many requests for information on adjusting the door torsion bars. The only printed information ever published by the factory was written for factory trained workers and service personal and contains minimal information. The only complete procedure was published 12 years ago and appeared in DeLorean World Magazine. Anyone who has read these articles knows of the explicit warnings about window breakage, shattered torsion bars, and personal safety. The warnings are accurate, therefore I feel the only safe and accurate way to get this information out is by producing a "how to" video. Many of you know that I am also in the broadcast video production business and I have been contemplating producing DeLorean service procedure video's for years. Based on the number of requests coming in for the torsion bar adjustment procedure and the fact that this is the only detailed way that I can show owners and service personal how to do this procedure a video tape seems the best way to go. After years of doing many torsion bar adjustments we have developed a simpler and safer procedure using less tools. The "ball park" figure for a limited run would be $75 to $125 per tape. I'll need to know how many of you would be interested in making a purchase.
All interested parties please contact me directly through email or phone .
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services 770 631-4800
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 11:08:00 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: MIRRORS
Mike, First check fuse # 9, if the fuse is good remove the mirror control switch and check to see if you have 12 volts at the green/white wire. The switch can be pulled from the door by pulling up the interior door handle and removing the black plastic trim piece called the escutcheon. See M:17:02 fig. 68 in your workshop manual for a diagram. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services dmcjoe@att.net
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 11:19:27 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: DML: Starting problem
Your no hot start problem may be due to one of two items. You either have a defective time/temperature switch or a bad fuel accumulator. To test the time temperature switch pull the connector off the cold start valve, if the car still refuses to start you will need to replace the fuel accumulator. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services dmcjoe@att.net
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 11:34:18 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Starting problem
Brian, Sounds like your problem is related to your idle speed circuit. If the car is idling at 1500 rpm when warm it means that the idle speed motor is wide open, this causes an overly lean condition which will prevent the engine from re starting. Have your DeLorean mechanic check all of the components in the idle speed system. Also re check the cold start circuit. If the cold start valve is injecting with the engine warm it will create an overly rich condition. Once again your "D" mechanic should be able to check this circuit. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services dmcjoe@att.net
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 22:10:36 +0000 From: "darryl@techline.com" <darryl@techline.com> Subject: DML: RE: remote door release wiring
Mike Griese is correct, the access panel is under the T-top, not above the headliner. I've only done it that way once and it was several years ago, so I just took a shot at remembering, with a 50% chance of getting it right. I usually replace the door lock solenoids with actuators first, that frees up the black ground wire to use for the door opener actuators. This takes longer and costs more, but is more reliable in my opinion. And you can wire it up without removing the T-top or headliner or whichever. No I don't have a kit; all I have is instructions and some sources. I almost wish I hadn't started this thread, because I wasn't prepared to respond to all those interested. Please give me a couple of weeks to get organized so I can provide info on-line, or send me a couple of bucks for copying/postage and I'll mail it to you. Maybe after the first of the year I will consider putting together a kit, depending on the demand. Part of the problem with that is the variables - do you have an alarm system? Do you just want to use a keyless entry? One door, or both? And what about liability - if your doors fly open at 88MPH, please don't have your attorney call me...
Darryl Tinnerstet Specialty Automotive 4 LaBelle Lane McCleary, WA 98557 PH: 360-495-4640 FAX: 360-495-4680
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 09:35:20 +0100 From: "Ingmar Foerster" <foerster@meteo.Uni-Koeln.DE> Subject: DML: The zine003
Hello List
I seem to have a severe problem getting the zine003.
Trying it for about 30 times during the las 3 weeks I always get the message: Insufficent bandwidth or connsctivity.
When I tried it today there was nothing left on the server. Please can anybody help me?
Iam an enthusiast and want to have this zine.
Greetings from Cologne, Germany
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 98 03:07:46 -0000 From: James Espey <espey@dmcnews.com> Subject: DML: Fender removal...
On page P:02:02 of the workshop manual, it details removal of the front fender. Step 6 says:
Open the hood and loosen the Phillips head screws securing adjacent side of the front fascia panel support bracket to the body angle bracket.
Can someone identify these screws for me?
All I need to do is move the right side of the front fascia forward about an inch to gain access to the three screws that attach the front fender to the body mounting bracket - ideas anyone?
James
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Date: 13 Nov 98 15:22:41 -0500 From: MCCOMBC@dteenergy.com Subject: DML: Door ding
In a post from a few weeks ago, Dan from Michigan was looking for a facility=
in the Detroit area to repair a parking lot ding. I now find myself in the same boat and I'm just sick about it. Dan, please contact me directly and let me know if you found someone in this area that will do this kind of repair on stainless. I have looked at the Delorean owners directory from Michigan and don't see you listed and cannot contact you otherwise.
Thanks,
Cliff McComb VIN 11546 mccombc@detroitedison.com or call 248-553-9837
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 21:00:55 -0500 From: haldeman <haldeman@fuse.net> Subject: Re: DML: A Bunch of DeLoreans
Frank - your pictures of the November 8 gathering were excellent! Wish my son Josh and I could have had the weekend free to drive over from Cincinnati!
Josh and I will be at your next gathering. Keep up the good work.
David Haldeman VIN 5102 Cincinnati, Ohio
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