Monday, November 30 1998 Volume 03 : Number 446
In this issue:
DML: Stainless Steel Bumper Letters
Re: DML: WON'T START?
DML: FW: Meeting in NJ
DML: Re: WON'T START?
DML: PARTS CROSSOVER LIST
DML: Re: WON'T START?
Re: DML: Stainless Steel Bumper Letters
Re: DML: Re: Re: Exhaust Tips
Re: DML: Lettering on Bumper
DML: DMC Employee
Re: DML: Stainless Steel Bumper Letters
DML: Lifto - Mat
DML: T-Bar Roof Renforcement
Re: DML: Doors
DML: RE: Exhaust tips
DML: DMCs in Parade???
DML: DMC Factory
DML: what's wrong with this picture?
DML: DeLorean in Doonesbury
DML: Stainless Steel Illusion For Sale
Re: DML: Re: Re: Exhaust Tips
DML: Re: T-Bar Roof Reinforcement
DML: RE: RE: Exhaust tips/back pressure
Re: DML: Doors
DML: DeLorean Recalls
Re: DML: Stainless Steel Bumper Letters
Re: DML: DMCs in Parade???
DML: Re: DMC Factory
DML: gas fume smell
DML: RE: Stainless Steel Bumper Letters
DML: Low Idle during cold start
DML: DMC Dr. house call
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 14:22:05 EST From: Jdsjlv(AT)aol.com Subject: DML: Stainless Steel Bumper Letters
I just talked to Ed Bernstein at DeLorean One about the Stainless Steel letters for the bumber and he told me that they don't have any in stock, nor will they again. He told me that because I haven't purchased anything fom him in years, I didn't receive the mailing concerning the discontinuation of this item. Is this true, or did he give me a line of bull? If this is so, does anyone know where I can buy them? Please e-mail me at: jdsjlv(AT)aol.com Thanks, Joshua D. Schwartz 001292 Connecticut
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 12:27:34 -0800 From: "lseiler(AT)radiance.com" <lseiler(AT)radiance.com> Subject: Re: DML: WON'T START?
At 01:38 AM 11/25/98 -0700, you wrote: >Well, I've gone and done it now. Where to begin. I seem to have fixed >the car so it won't start. Snip<...............
Hi Mike,
I did about the same thing when I first got my D'. There are a few quick ways to eliminate major areas of trouble. The first time I did what you did I had a bad Inertia switch. which cuts off the Fuel pump. One very quick way to check both fuel pump and IGN is to dump a soda pop cap full of gas into the intake manifold (air cleaner removed). wait a minute then crank it, if you have spark and every thing else is working but the fuel pump, the engine will catch for a moment.
Joe will track you on the other most likely ways to find the problem.
I found that cleaning all the contacts is not always enough, you also need to reform some of the connectors to ensure that the make good contact.
Good Luck
Lee
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:20:09 -0500 From: Gerald Deutsch <Jerry1(AT)eclipse.net> Subject: DML: FW: Meeting in NJ
It seems that this sunday is turning into a sort of DeLorean fest at my = house. It seems that quite a few people are going to show up here this = sunday just to meet and have fun. So, if anyone else wants to come, you = are welcome to join us. Nothing formal, no bbq or anything, just meeting = to hang out here. I live in central Jersey about 10 minutes from New = Hope PA, so if you wanna come, I'll e-mail you directions. My D should = be on the road for the first time this weekend, so I guess this is kind = of a celebration... without the cake. ---Dan
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:49:31 -0700 From: scottmueller(AT)zebra.net (Scott Mueller) Subject: DML: Re: WON'T START?
Mike, My car would not start yesterday, it turned out that the wire pigtail at the fuel pump had an open in it. Most likely caused by the hose clamp that holds the fuel pump to the tank. I moved the wire and the pump came on. Remember, that the controls will shut the pump off if the engine is not running after a few seconds. So crank the engine, then immediately check the fuel pump.
Scott Mueller DMC/ Das Mueller Companies Mobile, AL 1981/002981 DOA-5031 DMCNEWS Contact me about the "Deep South DeLorean Owners Club" Remember April 3, 1999 - Camillia Classic Car Show in Mobile Alabama
- -----Original Message----- From: mike atkinson <mikeatk(AT)concentric.net> To: DMCNews <dmcnews(AT)world.std.com> Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 9:46 AM Subject: DML: WON'T START?
Major sniparooney
>Well, I've gone and done it now. Where to begin. I seem to have fixed >the car so it won't start
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Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 09:23:17 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: PARTS CROSSOVER LIST
Greg, A detailed crossover parts list for the DeLorean listing component crossovers exists. It was first published in 1987 and has been updated over the years and now lists over 100 parts from air conditioner compressors to windshield wiper control modules. I have been servicing DeLoreans since I bought mine back in 83, and I feel confident in saying that of all of the DeLorean repair facilities I believe I have more experience in looking for parts than anyone. I can safely say this because I don't sell parts. During the early years of DeLorean Services I thought it would be a good idea for me to create a parts crossover list based on my part acquisition experience and make it available to DeLorean owners everywhere. Over the years, as I purchased parts from non DeLorean suppliers, I ran into many unpleasant situations that steered me back to the DeLorean suppliers. Have you ever thought about what it would be like to obtain parts for the DeLorean if there was never a DeLorean One, P.J. Grady, DMC Houston, and all the other part suppliers who have been here for us through the years. My suggestion to you and all DeLorean owners is purchase your parts from reputable DeLorean suppliers only. Not only will you get the correct part you will also be investing in the companies who have helped make the DeLorean the most serviceable limited production sports car in the history of the automotive industry. BTW I was the creator of the crossover list I mentioned at the top of this post, I do not market the list but it is available by becoming a member of the Southeastern DeLorean Owners Club, contact Tom Long trl2(AT)mindspring.com for more information. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services dmcjoe(AT)att.net
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Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 09:42:56 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: WON'T START?
Mike, Go back to the electrical compartment and access the RPM relay, connect a 12v test light between ground and the white purple wire and crank the engine. If the tester does not light were close to your problem, let me know the result. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services dmcjoe(AT)att.net
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:44:53 -0800 From: "Sean R. Manning" <mannings(AT)premier1.net> Subject: Re: DML: Stainless Steel Bumper Letters
Joshua-->
I have been calling DeLorean One about every 3 weeks for several months trying to get my hands on these. They told me when I first called (at the end of August) that they had sold them all at the DeLorean Expo so I had missed getting some by just a few days or so. This last time I called they said they weren't sure if their supplier had anymore. The didn't tell me that they would never have them again but it sounds like that's how it is now. Maybe someone on the list has an extra set of these and/or the door kickplate decals that they're willing to sell or maybe D1 would tell us where they got them.
Sean Manning VIN#1932 BAKNTYM
At 02:22 PM 11/25/98 -0500, you wrote: >I just talked to Ed Bernstein at DeLorean One about the Stainless Steel >letters for the bumber and he told me that they don't have any in stock, >nor >will they again. He told me that because I haven't purchased anything >fom him >in years, I didn't receive the mailing concerning the discontinuation of >this >item. Is this true, or did he give me a line of bull? If this is so, does >anyone know where I can buy them? Please e-mail me at: jdsjlv(AT)aol.com
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 23:42:55 -0500 From: Steve <dmc(AT)fdt.net> Subject: Re: DML: Re: Re: Exhaust Tips
On Mon, 23 Nov 1998, BRUCE BENSON wrote: [stuff on expensive exhaust tips removed] > With the pressures that have been on the auto manufacturers the last > several years, one would think if some if the claims advertised about these > products were true, we'd have seen them incorporated into production cars.
Actually, the exhaust tips that were described are similar to what is on my friend's '98 Corevette. It has a larger tip on the end of the tailpipe which is open to the air on the backside allowing the exhaust to pull in fresh air before it exits out the back of the tailpipe. My friend bought the car new from the dealer so it should be a stock thing. As to whether it does anything performance or emissions wise, I don't know.
> The truth is there is no simple, cheap, bolt on item that will dramaticly > increase horse power ond/or reduce emissions. $10 exhaust extensions are > one thing but $120, forget it.
That I agree with, I wouldn't pay $120 for these tips. There are much better/cheaper ways to increase efficiency. You may even be able to find a similar item cheaper; I've seen a lot of compact cars lately driving around with extremely large (greater than 3") tips, I always assumed they were just trying to look good.
-Steve <dmc(AT)fdt.net> VIN #17117
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 23:45:40 EST From: CBL302(AT)aol.com Subject: Re: DML: Lettering on Bumper
I was just wondering who owns Vin # 00500 and what month it was made?
CBL302 Claude Vin #00570
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Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 12:02 +0000 From: "Martin Gutkowski" <mgutkowski(AT)datastreamicv.co.uk> Subject: DML: DMC Employee
A colleague at work came into my office the other day, and saw the statutory DeLorean picture in the background on my PC screen. She said: "My boyfriend's Uncle designed the wing mirrors for that car!". I asked her for some details, and below is what she sent me today - minus the guy's address. Has anyone heard of him?
Martin
Details of the guy from my boyfriend for you!!!
Hope it+s good!
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Yep, his name's Nick Tysoe
I just spoke to my dad. He thinks it was actually the tail light cluster that Nick designed, not the wing mirror, which fits with the fact that he's currently designing lights for Rolls Royce! He's living in Crewe during the week, but he's home at the weekends.
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Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 10:13:47 EST From: COREYDMC(AT)aol.com Subject: Re: DML: Stainless Steel Bumper Letters
hello, quite frankly ed bernstein is an (AT)#$%HEAD. he is a bunch of bull. for good dmc service and parts call dmc of huston tx. or pj grady. and the hell with ed bernstein!
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Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 10:22:08 -0600 (CST) From: jameel a ahed <ahed(AT)students.uiuc.edu> Subject: DML: Lifto - Mat
Yesterday I saw something really interesting. I went for a ride in a really nice brand new Trans AM. This thing was amazing. When my buddy lifted the hood I noticed right a way the hood was held up by Lifto - Mat air pistons! Isn't that what our cars came equipt with originaly? My car had lifto -mat pistons through out the car. I just thought that was kinda cool. I bet for you guys out there that are in to cross refing, those pistons would probably be great for cross refing. Jameel
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Date: Thu, 26 Nov 98 10:40:33 -0600 From: David Swingle <dswingle(AT)enteract.com> Subject: DML: T-Bar Roof Renforcement
Was "Roof Problems" from
>Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 22:53:45 -0500 >From: "DSS" <dsilek(AT)email.msn.com> >Subject: DML: Roof problems...
The recent posts regarding the t-bar hitting the rear louver brought something else to mind that I have done on several cars - If you remove the black plastic trim piece that holds the rear of the T-roof panel down (like you would to get to the torsion bar adjustment) you will usually notice that the (black) steel reinforcing panel to which the torsion par retainers are attached has become unglued from the fiberglass structure of the car, and often has started to bend or kink. This causes the steel panel to raise slightly lifting the stainless T-roof panel a little so that it can hit the louver. If you really want to scare yourself, watch this steel panel while someone opens and closes a door. If it is unglued, it moves around a lot. Makes you think about parking the car for the winter with the doors UP.
The fix for this, while conceptually simple, is not for the faint of heart since step one is to REMOVE the torsion bars. I'm not going to detail this here, if you haven't done this get the assistance of someone who has. There is no substitute for first-had observation. (DMCJoe - this might be a good addition to your videotape if it isn't in there already).
To remove the torsion bars just relax them all the way, then turn them the wrong way a little farther to unstick them from the front hinge. Once you have the bars out, put a rod (a 3' socket extension works great) into the torsion bar holes and bear down. This will press the roof structure back down where it belongs. With one person holding it this way, drill a hole through the steel into the fiberglass, about 1 inch on either side of the torsion bar retainer screws and install a #12 x 1" sheet metal screw. I heave heard of people removing the interior panel and using screws w/ nuts, but the sheet metal screw seems to hold up and is a lot less trouble. When done you will have installed 4 screws, two adjacent to either torsion bar.
Now put everything back together - this usually drops the trailing edge of the t-roof between 1/8 and 1/4 inch (!), and gets rid of a lot of creaking noises when you open the doors.
Dave Swingle 81 VIN 5429 DOA, DMC, DMC(Midwest)
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Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 14:34:45 -0500 From: "R. Starling" <doctor280(AT)email.msn.com> Subject: Re: DML: Doors
I know that this has been discussed in the past week, but I have run across a problem with my doors. My passenger door is opening up further then my drivers door, by a few inches. This is causing a very sight rub with the front of the passenger door and the t-panel. Both doors are opening to their full range and the t-panel measures out to be in perfect alignment. What do I do to correct this problem, I dont see any type of adjustment on the struts.
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Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 18:04:04 -0500 From: David Esterly <mattdan(AT)erols.com> Subject: DML: RE: Exhaust tips
Do not beleive any of the claims that these people are making on their exaust tips. I read the descriptions of their products and as a Mechanical/Automotive Engineer they made absolutely no sense. The terminology alone tells me they have no idea what they were talking about. Cars needs a certain amount of back pressure in the exhaust in order to run efficiently so there is no way that these tips can improve your gas mileage by sucking the exhaust out of the engine. As far as boosting your horsepower they might but not as much as they claim. If you want to add power to your car buy a cat-back kit from Borla or Flow Master. There is alot more involved in exhaust than just increasing flow. I am no genius and I dont know everything but those guys will rob you blind!
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Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 20:48:18 -0800 (PST) From: DMC_12(AT)webtv.net (Justin Friel) Subject: DML: DMCs in Parade???
I have now heard of a Festival of Lights Parade in Salem, OR. Is there also gonna be one in Palm Springs, CA, I am still wondering, cuz I want to go, but nobody has ever heard of it in Palm Springs and I would hate to make the long trip for nuttin' any info is greatly appreciated.
PS- Who's DMCs are gonna' be there?? and can I have a rough estimate time when it starts?? and where it takes place??
Jay
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 01:45:48 -0400 From: chip <chip(AT)koan.com> Subject: DML: DMC Factory
i have a very small question. i thought i already knew it but ive gone and confused myself."IS the Factory in Ireland still there?" i had always thought it had been torn down after the fall of DMC but now i see that the delorean event in 97 was held there! and there were driven around the test rack and stuff! so whats the story? is it still there but empty...or is it gone but the track still there and a few buildings....whats there now? some enthusiast i turned out to be huh. oh well. thanx
chip #1230 www.variousimages.com
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 09:40:49 -0500 From: "Christian Williams" <christian(AT)framezero.com> Subject: DML: what's wrong with this picture?
http://www.classifieds2000.com/cgi-cls/ad.exe?P48+C14+A0+R471251+Q258166579
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 10:39:29 -0500 From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM(AT)cesmtp.ccf.org> Subject: DML: DeLorean in Doonesbury
Last week I re-read John Z. DeLorean's autobiography, and I noticed he mentions that the Doonesbury comic strip used his story. After a little research, I found this site where you can read & purchase old Doonesbury comics:
http://www.doonesbury.com/flashbacks/
You will see that back on 1982, G.B. Trudeau did a 25 part series about making a movie out of the DeLorean saga. Just search for "Subject: D" for "DeLorean, John" and the comics will all come up in reverse order. If you want to appreciate the jokes you should start at the earliest one, November 9, 1982, which is on the bottom. Then work your way up.
"What do you mean, it fell through, Ducks?"
"The studio got cold feet. It seems everyone
in town is doing a DeLorean movie."
(Doonesbury, 11-29-82)
Enjoy!
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 15:49:41 -0700 From: John <carnut1(AT)ibm.net> Subject: DML: Stainless Steel Illusion For Sale
Im trying to get rid of extra stuff.
I have 1 "Stainless Steel Ilusion" for sale $200
1 Back To The Future Model Kits... Part 3 but the one with the
baby moon hub caps
If interested e-mail me at CARNUT1(AT)BIGFOOT.COM John
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:48:36 -0600 From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut(AT)postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: DML: Re: Re: Exhaust Tips
It has a larger tip on the end of the tailpipe > which is open to the air on the backside allowing the exhaust to pull in > fresh air before it exits out the back of the tailpipe.
There already is a vacuum created at the rear of the car beyond at speed. How much much at what speed depends on the cars aero dynamics. That's why drafting works so well in racing.
Bruce Benson
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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 05:39:34 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: T-Bar Roof Reinforcement
David, EXCELLENT! this is exactly what we do to correct this condition. I will take your suggestion and add this to our Torsion Bar Adjust Video. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services dmcjoe(AT)att.net
- ---------- > > >Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 22:53:45 -0500 > >From: "DSS" <dsilek(AT)email.msn.com> > >Subject: DML: Roof problems... > > The recent posts regarding the t-bar hitting the rear louver brought > something else to mind that I have done on several cars - If you remove > the black plastic trim piece that holds the rear of the T-roof panel down
> (like you would to get to the torsion bar adjustment) you will usually > notice that the (black) steel reinforcing panel to which the torsion par > retainers are attached has become unglued from the fiberglass structure > of the car, and often has started to bend or kink. This causes the steel > panel to raise slightly lifting the stainless T-roof panel a little so > that it can hit the louver. If you really want to scare yourself, watch > this steel panel while someone opens and closes a door. If it is unglued,
> it moves around a lot. Makes you think about parking the car for the > winter with the doors UP. > > The fix for this, while conceptually simple, is not for the faint of > heart since step one is to REMOVE the torsion bars. I'm not going to > detail this here, if you haven't done this get the assistance of someone > who has. There is no substitute for first-had observation. (DMCJoe - > this might be a good addition to your videotape if it isn't in there > already). > > To remove the torsion bars just relax them all the way, then turn them > the wrong way a little farther to unstick them from the front hinge. Once
> you have the bars out, put a rod (a 3' socket extension works great) into
> the torsion bar holes and bear down. This will press the roof structure > back down where it belongs. With one person holding it this way, drill a > hole through the steel into the fiberglass, about 1 inch on either side > of the torsion bar retainer screws and install a #12 x 1" sheet metal > screw. I heave heard of people removing the interior panel and using > screws w/ nuts, but the sheet metal screw seems to hold up and is a lot > less trouble. When done you will have installed 4 screws, two adjacent to > either torsion bar. > > Now put everything back together - this usually drops the trailing edge > of the t-roof between 1/8 and 1/4 inch (!), and gets rid of a lot of > creaking noises when you open the doors. >
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 22:58:24 -0500 From: Gerald Deutsch <Jerry1(AT)eclipse.net> Subject: DML: RE: RE: Exhaust tips/back pressure
Back pressure is needed in an exhaust system??? I'm not positive, but I = don't think that is right. I work with high performance motorcycles and = the only motor that needs back pressure is a two-stroke engine. It is my = understanding that the smoother the exhaust flow, the more air intake an = engine can have. So if an engine intakes more air, a fuel increase is = needed to balance this properly. At least that's how it works on = racebikes. This is why aftermarket pipes and carbourator jet-kits are = made. The jet-kits increase the intake of fuel through the carbs to = compensate for the increase of air intake from the pipe. The pipe allows = more air to enter the motor due to less restriction in the muffler; as = well as larger diameter headers and smoother bends. So if this is true = for a motorcycle motor, why whould it not apply to a car motor?
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 20:37:25 -0800 From: "Dan" <gonzo(AT)nwlink.com> Subject: Re: DML: Doors
Are both the door struts the same? I noticed that one of my doors opened up farther than the other. It turned out to be a different strut on each door. Just a thought.
Dan
>My passenger door is opening up further then my drivers door, by a few >inches. This is causing a very sight rub with the front of the passenger >door and the t-panel. Both doors are opening to their full range and the >t-panel measures out to be in perfect alignment. >What do I do to correct this problem, I dont see any type of adjustment on >the struts.
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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 07:36:29 EST From: JARRXR(AT)aol.com Subject: DML: DeLorean Recalls
Hello List!
If I understand correctly the DeLorean has had 2 recalls/updates.(signified by the red and blue dots on the engine firewall) I would like to know exactly what entails to the blue and red dot upgrade.
I am interested in a DeLorean and someone told me it was a good idea to have the upgrades. If these upgrades are mandatory, I would have to get someone to service the car immediately.
Thanx, ~ JAR
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 06:28:47 -1000 From: "Thomas Smithson Associates" <tsassoc(AT)pixi.com> Subject: Re: DML: Stainless Steel Bumper Letters
Sean, Try calling JM Enterprises, he has various after market parts for
the
DMC 12 including door sill letters and bumper letters. The address is:
Bert Middleton
1202 N. Dalton
Azusa, CA 91702
(626) 334-5262
Thom Smithson
VIN #3089
ALOHA
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>Joshua--> > > I have been calling DeLorean One about every 3 weeks for several months >trying to get my hands on these. They told me when I first called (at the >end of August) that they had sold them all at the DeLorean Expo so I had >missed getting some by just a few days or so. This last time I called >they >said they weren't sure if their supplier had anymore. The didn't tell me >that they would never have them again but it sounds like that's how it is >now. Maybe someone on the list has an extra set of these and/or the door >kickplate decals that they're willing to sell or maybe D1 would tell us >where they got them. > >Sean Manning >VIN#1932 >BAKNTYM
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 09:45:07 -0800 From: Hank Breer <hbreer(AT)ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: DML: DMCs in Parade???
Justin,
The Palm Springs Festival of Lights Parade is an annual event held the first Saturday in December. This year it is Dec 5th. The parade starts at 5:45 pm at the south end of town and goes north through downtown on Palm Canyon. (This is the main, one-way street in Palm Springs. The parade actually goes north on the southbound street).
This is the eighth year for the parade, and the third year for DeLorean owners. We have seven cars registered including a black D. All entries are decorated with white Xmas lights, even walking groups like bands. Requirements for cars are at least 400 lights. Last year, Ed & Mary Krasicki showed up with a monster inverter and a spare battery and covered their car with 5,000 lights.
The decorating and judging takes place most of the afternoon in parking lots, etc. near where the north and south one way streets re-join as you head down toward Palm Desert. If anyone wishes to drop by to kibitz and help decorate the cars, you are welcome.
After the parade, there is an award ceremony (the DeLoreans have won trophies in the last two parades) then we will meet at a restaurant for dinner, drinks, and more talk. The parade lasts until about 7:30, so allowing for the award ceremony, dinner will probably be around 8:30 or 9:00.
Hank Breer
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 11:48:27 -0700 From: scottmueller(AT)zebra.net (Scott Mueller) Subject: DML: Re: DMC Factory
The factory buildings are still there. A metal casting company now used the site. For further details, read my euro fest '97 report.
http://www.delorean-owners.org/events/euro97.html
Scott Mueller DMC/ Das Mueller Companies Mobile, AL 1981/002981 DOA-5031 DMCNEWS Contact me about the "Deep South DeLorean Owners Club" Remember April 3, 1999 - Camillia Classic Car Show in Mobile Alabama
>i have a very small question. i thought i already knew it but ive gone >and confused myself."IS the Factory in Ireland still there
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 12:58:57 -0500 From: Gerald Deutsch <Jerry1(AT)eclipse.net> Subject: DML: gas fume smell
I finally got my D on the road for the first time this week, and let me = tell you, I LOVE IT!!! It is a pleasure to drive. I am experiencing one = problem however, I smell gas fumes from the front of the car. It never = did this before. I noticed it when I filled the tank with gas for the = first time. I never filled it up before, only had about 5 gallons in it = while I just scooting up and down the block with it. Anyway, I removed = the panels under the spare tire and don't see any leaks. I smelled the = fumes even more when I removed the panel. I'm stumped as to what this = could be. Just before I bought the car back in January, the fuel pump = and lines were just replaced, so the system might be about a year old. = The car runs beautifully, but when I stop at home or at a red light, I = smell the gas. Can somebody please give me some suggestions as to what = this could be? Thank you in advance. ---Dan Vin# 5493
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 13:20:29 -0600 From: "Daniel McGauley" <hawkeye(AT)creativeworlds.com> Subject: DML: RE: Stainless Steel Bumper Letters
I've been trying to keep up with the DML lately, so if the bumper letter thread was finalized, sorry for this posting.
I did research on the stainless steel letters for the bumper and all sellers were out except for DMC Motor Center, Inc. in Garden Grove, CA (Don Steger's company). They are really nice quality (same material as the stainless steel panels I believe), and installed easily. I had to add a little extra glue to the stuff that was on them, but they have help up perfectly.
I bought them about 2 or 3 months ago and they sold for $59.95 at the time.
DMC Motor Center, Inc. 13881 West Street Garden Grove, CA 92843 714-554-6794
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 14:31:00 -0600 (CST) From: jameel a ahed <ahed(AT)students.uiuc.edu> Subject: DML: Low Idle during cold start
Dear DML, I have a question. During a cold start my car starts right up. If I leave it alone for a few minutes I won't have any problem. It idles perfect. If I start it and give it some gas to pull it out of the garage and then let it warm up the idle gets really low and the car feels like it is going to die out. It does die out if I don't give it some gas. Then when it warms up I don't have a problem again. What do you think is wrong. The water pump and cold start sensor are brand new. The only thing that I think could be the problem would be that 7th injector. Jameel Ahed
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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 16:04:02 EST From: ABatt10347(AT)aol.com Subject: DML: DMC Dr. house call
Fellow DMCer's, Just an update to tell you about the house call Joe and Allen ( Delorean services)made to TN. I had a water pump replaced when my D was in Atlanta a few weeks ago. Upon getting it home the pulley on the water pump, walked down the shaft, this caused the belt to come off. I called Joe and we were able to arrange a time for him to come up to TN. While here he was also able to help a second D owner replace the window motor on his D. This is what I call service!!! Go back and read my previous post on Joe then add about 100% more satisfaction! On a second note, does anyone have an 81 hood, lines with or without gas flap to sell? If so what is the market for this? Bruce Battles Vin# 6569
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