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4258. delorean502@excite.com Instument cluster case
4259. Doc Intake
4260. Doc Re: relay for doors
4261. Doc Re: headliner fabric
4262. Doc Re: Historical Status for CA?
4263. Jesse D. Sightler Re: Another Giugiaro Design Influence?
4264. DMC Joe Re: History Channel Documentary
4265. DMC Joe Re: undercarriage cleaning
4266. mishka1@interlog.com Help a Canadian Out, eh!
4267. DMC Joe Re: relay for doors
4268. DMC Joe Re: headliner fabric
4269. DMC Joe Re: dash and other questions
4270. Carson Clark Re: dash and other questions
4271. Carson Clark Re: relay for doors
4272. Ann & Ed Thompson Re: Help a Canadian Out, eh!
4273. Marc A Levy Re: Hesitation from the Line
4274. Ann & Ed Thompson Re: undercarriage cleaning
4275. Scott Donnelly Re: Another Giugiaro Design Influence?
4276. Phil Re: Another Giugiaro Design Influence?
4277. Jonathan Heslop Re: Another Giugiaro Design Influence?
4278. David Sontos Re: Instument cluster case
4279. CBL302@aol.com Re: History Channel Documentory
4280. Garrit Taylor Antenna Switcheroo
4281. GFesta5@aol.com BTTF DeLoreans
4282. CBL302@aol.com Re: History Channel Documentary
4283. SweatyEddy Re: Historical Status for CA?
4284. Deloreanernst@aol.com Re: Help a Canadian Out, eh!
4285. Rob Hook Re: Another Giugiaro Design Influence?
4286. Dave Stragand Disassembled D web page
4287. Dave Stragand Re: Disassembled D web page
4288. J.D. Robbins car history, delorean one, dead end
4289. jrobbins@brit.ca Re: Help a Canadian Out, eh!
4290. jrobbins@brit.ca Re: Struts source
4291. jrobbins@brit.ca Re: relay for doors
4292. jrobbins@brit.ca Re: DeLorean Owners in Southern Ontario
4293. John Hanley Sump Drain Tool
4294. Doc Radio wires
4295. Kemp, Nick (MN10) DMC look alike
4296. raynet@home.net Re: headliner fabric
4297. Josh S. Re: BTTF DeLoreans
4298. Josh S. '82 DeLorean knock-off found in new computer game
4299. delorean502@excite.com oil drain tool
4300. Robert Brandys Dyno Day starting time
4301. Kevin Rawlings Re: Help a Canadian Out, eh!
4302. Stian Birkeland Re: History Channel Documentory
4303. delorean502@excite.com carpet stains
4304. Carson Clark Re: Antenna Switcheroo
4305. Goin88mph@aol.com Re: BTTF DeLoreans
4306. thai vu power antenna
4307. thai vu Power door lock (tv)
4308. thai vu Stereo and vents (tv)
4309. delorean502@excite.com framed prototype pic
4310. Todd Kneib Lockzilla
4311. NBeatson@aol.com Re: Help a Canadian Out, eh!
4312. porn_starr_bill@hotmail.com eBay Delorean
4313. IVe099@aol.com Re: BTTF DeLoreans
4314. IVe099@aol.com No DMC logo
4315. dmc-flux Re: DeLorean Owners in Southern Ontario
4316. BondAtomic@aol.com Re: BTTF DeLoreans
4317. MaineMan5@aol.com Re: BTTF DeLoreans
4318. Carson Clark Re: eBay Delorean
4319. Tamir Ardon Re: carpet stains
4320. Carson Clark Re: BTTF DeLoreans
4321. Mike Substelny Unanswered DeLorean Questions
4322. Tamir Ardon Re: BTTF DeLoreans
4323. TTanaka504@aol.com Radio fuse
4324. Danrc30 Re: Stereo and vents (tv)
4325. MikeRobberts@aol.com Had accident need parts
4326. Jim Re: BTTF DeLoreans
4327. Amazinrick@aol.com Re: BTTF DeLoreans--FINAL! :)
4328. BigJohn927@aol.com Re: eBay Delorean
4329. Marc A Levy Re: Unanswered DeLorean Questions
4330. jsight@pair.com Armrest Removal
4331. Marc A Levy Re: eBay Delorean
4332. DMC Joe Re: Are these relay problems?
4333. DMC Joe Re: Hesitation from the Line
4334. DMC Joe Re: relay for doors
4335. DMC Joe Re: Instrument cluster case
4336. Josh S. Re: Lockzilla
4337. delorean502@excite.com drivers front fender
4338. jrobbins@brit.ca Re: Help a Canadian Out, eh!
4339. jrobbins@brit.ca tow truck anyone?
4340. DMC Joe Re: Hesitation from the Line
4341. DMC Joe Re: carpet stains
4342. DMC Joe Re: power antenna
4343. DMC Joe Re: undercarriage cleaning
4344. DMC Joe Re: Radio wires
4345. DMC Joe Re: History Channel Documentary
4346. DMC Joe Re: Antenna Switcheroo
4347. MG36@aol.com Re: History Channel Documentory
4348. Martin Gutkowski Re: DeLorean in BBC's "Watchdog" programme
4349. Ann & Ed Thompson Re: History Channel Documentory
4350. Marc A Levy Re: Stereo and vents (tv)
4351. James Espey Re: Stereo and vents (tv)
4352. Doc Re: Some questions for the doc, Zillas and antena
4353. DMC3309@aol.com Re: Radio fuse
4354. Doc Re: Stereo and vents (tv)
4355. Mike $ One more antenna question :)
4356. DMC3309@aol.com Re: Stereo and vents (tv)
4357. delorean502@excite.com Re: Radio fuse
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Is it possible to just by the binnicle (is that how it is spelled)
without the instuments inside? Or do I have to buy it all in one
piece? All my instuments work GREAT...never a problem, but the grey
"hump" is cracked in many places from the sun. New ones from DMC
Houston cost $600+ for the whole thing. OR, does anybody know how to
cover up cracks...short term of coarse. I will replace it eventually.
thanks alot
Erik Geerdink
4512
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:54:49 -0500
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I would like to thank Bill Lane for giving me further insight, this past
weekend, in how the PRV-6 is put together. Bill showed me first hand how
the intake assembly comes off the engine and you can service the areas that
are located under the intake. ( Water hoses, vacuum hoses, thermal control
valve, and intake seals)
After experiencing this procedure being done, I can say that the job is time
consuming, but not that difficult. I would also recommend to anyone out
there that is considering having a tune up on their engine done, to service
this area as well. When the intake is off it also makes access to the spark
plugs and distributor so much easier.
Thanks again Bill for sharing the knowledge,
Robert Starling
Vin#5252
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Also, if I purchased the relay update, would that fix a lot of
> the problems with the doors locking you in?? Or should I invest in a
> lockzilla? thanks
>
> Erik Geerdink
> 4512
Lockzilla is a must for reliability of the door locks. I would strongly
recomend installing one before reconnecting the door lock system.
Robert Starling
Vin#5252
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Also, DMC Houston offers
> refurbished or machined wheels. Does that mean I have to send in my
> wheels to get them redone, or do I actually get new wheels for that
> price? I've e-mailed Houston, but no responce on this subject. Thanks
Yes, the price that they are quoting is with trade in of your wheels.
Robert Starling
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> I am also interested in the car's status in North Carolina since I will
> be moving there soon. Any info would be helpful!
>
> thanks,
If you are moving near one of the larger cities here in North Carolina, you
will most likely have to pass emission testing.
Robert Starling
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From: "Jesse D. Sightler" <jsight@mindspring.com>
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dcsj@excite.com wrote:
>
> While looking through the back of an AutoWeek mag., a couple months back, I
> ran across a for sale ad with picture. The car was a 1980 BMW M1 It appeared
> to be a 2seat sports coupe the design was strikingly similar too a
> Delorean/Lotus Espri Hybrid concept.
You are definately correct here. :) No gull-wing doors, but other than
that, the car looks very much like a Delorean. It was also designed by
Giugiaro and Ital Design, and I believe there were about 8000 produced,
although I could be mixing the production number up with the Z1.
> It was listed @ $85,000 . Is this a rare prototype or an actual production
> model? I have to say its the sharpest looking BMW I've ever seen. The front
> end looks delorean and back end looks espri.
I've seen two of them in person at the Euro99 show earlier this year,
and yes they are very impressive looking vehicles. I've never seen one
for less than 70-80000, though. :)
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:15:06 -0500
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Claude,
There is only one statement that you made that I personally disagree with.
You said "hence the oversize factory". Based on the projections of
manufacturing capacity and room for expansion the factory was well designed
and proportioned. As a matter of fact the factory is the only asset that
the British Government gained when DMC closed. This beautiful facility is
still in use today employing hundreds of workers in the Belfast area. John
DeLorean said his operation would put a lot of jobless people back to work,
so in reality the British government is getting a return on their
investment to this very day.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: CBL302@aol.com
>
>
> If there was someone to blame for a "Blunder" it was the man himself
(JZD)not
> the British Goverment,ok maybe a little blame on the British Government
for
> not keeping closer tabs on how the money was spent,but JZD was a General
> Motors man,and the only thing he knew real good was about making high
volume
> cars,he was trying to run DMC as if it was one of the divisions of
General
> Motors,in other words some
> body else pays all the bills(British Gov.),no matter what the cost,hence
the
> oversize factory,the Park Ave offices(New York)the overruns in expenses,
the
> over production
> of cars ect.By the time he realized his "Blunders" it was to late,the
British
> Goverment
> stopped the supply of cash,unless he could match the next Twenty million
the
> British Goverment was willing to give him,then we all know what happen in
> L.A. after that.
>
> Claude
> 000570
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 14:03:20 -0500
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Don,
Any multi-purpose cleaner (409, Bleach White, etc.) will do the job with to
harm to the metal, epoxy frame, and fiberglass underbody. The safest and
easiest way to accomplish this is to place the car on four jack stands and
remove the wheels. Use your garden hose to spray off all the loose dirt. A
scrub brush with soap and water will aid in removing caked on dirt in areas
like the wheel wells.
After a good rinsing get yourself a bunch of rags and the musti purpose
cleaner mentioned above, slide under to car and clean, clean, clean. To
remove oil and dirt from the bottom of the engine and trans, use carburetor
spray cleaner and a paint brush. Be sure to use the carb cleaner with a
spray nozzle to avoid over spray onto the epoxy frame and adjoining rubber
components.
Be sure to read the warning labels on all of the products mentioned.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: saintern <saintern@peri.com>
> So here's the big question....whats a good cleaner to get all
> the grease and other stuff off all the pieces in the whell well (I'd
> like to clean up the actual black under body too if possible)
> Don Kazmark
> http://www.geocities.com/dkazmark/
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Dear DML members,
The day has come. I'm finally going to get one. My own D!
These are the elated thoughts that run through my mind all day and
nights however I my bubble was a little burst when I found out almost
every D being sold is in America somewhere. Arg. I'm stuck.
So a little insight into the Deloren obsessed psycho you read before
you. I'm an eighteen-year old high school student with aspirations of
Electrical and mechanical engineering. I drive an 81 Volvo 240 GLT with
272k on it (second best car on the planet) and all I've ever wanted in
terms of a dream car was the Delorean.
So now the dilemma: I've searched endlessly for a black '81 5 speed for
ages. Frankly, I'm to the point now where if someone has a scrapped one
in the Ontario are I'd take it..... and pay as well. Even if it is a
little ratty and doesn't run I'd be happy. I just want one to call my
own once and for all.
So as cheesy and as annoying as this sounds please help me out if you
know a guy who knows a guy who knows another guy that owns one in
Canada please tell me! Any fleeting ideas as to how I'd get my hands on
this fine peice of machinery are also welcomed.
not much more to say other than just remember the instant you realized
the Delorean was yours.... Wouldn't you want someone else to know that
type of joy?
Please Email me back, even if it is just to say hi at:
Mishka1@interlog.com
If you need to cantact me in any other way here's my info.
(416) 485-4708 (press 3 to leavre a msg)
Mike Kadonoff
8 Cole Millway
Toronto, ONT.
M4N 3P8
Thanks again!
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Erik,
The former owner did what we suggest to all D owners; disconnect the door
lock module.
Your lock module can be found at M:07:02 fig. 32 refereed to as the impulse
unit in your DeLorean Workshop Manual. This item has no connection to the
other relays therefore the relay update kit will not effect the door lock
circuit.
To return your locking system to the original design and function purchase
the Lockzilla.
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> From: delorean502@excite.com
>
> I was wondering which relay controles the door locks. the former owner
> of mine made it so both doors would not unlock with the turn of the
> key. Also, if I purchased the relay update, would that fix a lot of
> the problems with the doors locking you in?? Or should I invest in a
> lockzilla? thanks
>
> Erik Geerdink
> 4512
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 14:56:09 -0500
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To match you fabric color just drive your DeLorean to your local appolstory
shop and they will match your existing color with new fabric.
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> From: delorean502@excite.com
>
> Does anybody know what shade of gray goes on the headliners?? is there
> a color code or something? I'd like to get it done localy, but if need
> be I will send them to DMC Houston. Also, DMC Houston offers
> refurbished or machined wheels. Does that mean I have to send in my
> wheels to get them redone, or do I actually get new wheels for that
> price? I've e-mailed Houston, but no responce on this subject. Thanks
> for the help.
>
> Erik Geerdink
> 4512
> (looking forward to DMC 2000!!)
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Unfortunately there are no removal or installation instructions for the
dashboard.
The fuel tank removal is described at B:01:01 In the DeLorean Workshop
Manual. This procedure requires a lift and should be left to a qualified
service facility.
Relay locations are at M:07:02 in the above publication.
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> From: delorean502@excite.com
>
> OK, a couple more questions that I just thought of...
>
> 1. Does anybody have instructions on how to take off teh dashboard?
>
> 2. How hard is it to take out the fuel tank to clean? is this
> something I shouldn't try? anybody have instructions on how to do it?
>
> 3. Is there a diagram of the relays and what goes where? I couldn't
> find it in the service manuals
>
> thats about it.....thanks!
>
> Erik
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I dont know if it would be tacky or not but you could try:
1. finding a "dash mat" cloth to cover only the instrument panel.
2. take it to a local upholstry shop and see if they can cover it with
leather that matches the rest of the interior.
either way it would be short term and not cost too much.
--- DMC83in99@aol.com wrote:
> Erik,
>
> Is it your whole dashboard or just the binnacle that's cracked?
> DMC and
> DeLorean One both sell binnacles for around 300 dollars or so.
>
> Scott
> 16738
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Why should we disconnect the lock feature? It is very nice to have.
--- DMC Joe <DMCJOE@att.net> wrote:
> Erik,
> The former owner did what we suggest to all D owners; disconnect the
> door
> lock module.
> Your lock module can be found at M:07:02 fig. 32 refereed to as the
> impulse
> unit in your DeLorean Workshop Manual. This item has no connection to
> the
> other relays therefore the relay update kit will not effect the door
> lock
> circuit.
>
> To return your locking system to the original design and function
> purchase
> the Lockzilla.
>
> DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> > From: delorean502@excite.com
> >
> > I was wondering which relay controles the door locks. the former
> owner
> > of mine made it so both doors would not unlock with the turn of the
> > key. Also, if I purchased the relay update, would that fix a lot
> of
> > the problems with the doors locking you in?? Or should I invest in
> a
> > lockzilla? thanks
> >
> > Erik Geerdink
> > 4512
>
>
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> Mike wrote:
>
> The day has come. I'm finally going to get one. My own D!
>
> These are the elated thoughts that run through my mind all day and
> nights however I my bubble was a little burst when I found out almost
> every D being sold is in America somewhere. Arg. I'm stuck.
Why "stuck" Mike"? Is there a reason I don't know about why a DeLorean
can't be brought into Canada from the US? I'm sure there are many sellers
in the US that would be willing to work with you (myself included) to
arrange shipping to your doorstep. At my asking price of $25K (maybe even
less) I will include shipping costs to you (not to include import duties,
if any).
Regards,
Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982)
Midlothian, VA
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I sometimes have this problem too when the engine is cold. Was it cold
when this happened?
I suspect the problem is that with the turbos (I have twin turbos, so I
am assuming your setup is similar to mine) the cold start valve does not
work properly due to the lack of vacuum in the intake where the valve
(injector?) is located. My non-professional opinion would be that
because this extra shot of fuel is not being sucked in to the intake as
it normally should (because of the boost), the car hesitates.
I have considered relocating the tube that the valve is in to a point in
the system before the turbos. On my car there is some space between the
throttle plate and turbo inlet (This is where the vacuum for the timing
control is taken from). This should be the point of highest vacuum in
the system under all driving circumstances (boost or not). I have some
reservations about trying this, and it may be a good time to present
questions to the list to see if there are any answers-
- Is it OK to run a air/fuel mixture through the turbo? Currently no
fuel goes through the turbo and I worry that the fuel may damage the
turbo, and may even be a fire hazard.
- The cold start valve assembly also includes two barbs for vacuum for
the PCV system, and fuel vapor recovery system. Will the contaminants
from those sources damage the turbo or be a fire hazard?
- I had some others, but forget now :)
Rich Kula wrote:
>
> This morning I noticed some hesitation in 1st gear (5 speed with a single turbo) and was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction. I had to press the pedal all the way to the floor and once it hit 2000 to 2500 it seemed normal again. Just it seemed slower in getting there. The other gears and speeds seemed fine from an acceleration standpoint. Thanks for your support.
>
> Richard Kula
>
> #1460
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> DMC Joe wrote:
>
> Any multi-purpose cleaner (409, Bleach White, etc.) will do the job with to
> harm to the metal, epoxy frame, and fiberglass underbody. The safest and
> easiest way to accomplish this is to place the car on four jack stands and
> remove the wheels. Use your garden hose to spray off all the loose dirt. A
> scrub brush with soap and water will aid in removing caked on dirt in areas
> like the wheel wells.
> After a good rinsing get yourself a bunch of rags and the musti purpose
> cleaner mentioned above, slide under to car and clean, clean, clean. To
> remove oil and dirt from the bottom of the engine and trans, use carburetor
> spray cleaner and a paint brush. Be sure to use the carb cleaner with a
> spray nozzle to avoid over spray onto the epoxy frame and adjoining rubber
> components.
While I'm sure your method will work just fine Joe, it sounds extremely labor
intensive. What about simple high pressure steam cleaning? There are numerous
detailing shops in this area that will do a complete undercarriage steam
cleaning for about 50 bucks, engine & tranny only for about $25. The results
I have seen using this method are great! Most will even include touching up any
chassis paint (usually flat black) that has been knocked off by the high pressure
steam cleaning. I have had this done to several cars and the result usually is
"like new". This method is commonly used by used car dealers to clean up the
"top" of the engine so when you pop the hood you see "like new". Most detailing
shops do not include undercarriage cleaning (except for wheel wells) in their
price of "whole car" detailing, but will usually do it for an additional charge,
or will do it without doing the rest of the car.
If you prefer to detail your own undercarriage after cleaning I highly recommend
high pressure steam cleaning. There is NO resulting residue from various
cleaning products and you can begin touch up painting without further preparation.
Regards,
Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982)
Midlothian, VA
USA
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Far from an expert on the M1 (or DeLorean), I've always thought the M1 was an
in house effort. Here's what I've dug up:
http://www.korman.com/m1.htm
Back to lurk mode.
Scott Donnelly
Macstacker@aol.com wrote:
> The M1 was a joint venture with BMW and ferrarri. The engine was from
> ferrarri. Dont know if it was a V-8 or a V-12. But this car was from late
> 70's early 80's. Italdesign did the styling on it. The car was sold in
> small quantities in the U.S. (less than 500 if i recal the facts) and was
> discontinued when ferrarri wanted out of the deal. Hot looking car though
> with lots of lines similar to other ItalDesign cars of the period (DMC12,
> Esprit, Maserati, Izuzu impulse). I would take it to be a very hot
> collectors item, meant to be seen and not driven :^( unlike D's.
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The BMW M1 had a Indy-aspired I-6.
-Phil
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> The M1 was a joint venture with BMW and ferrarri. The engine was from
> ferrarri. Dont know if it was a V-8 or a V-12. But this car was from
late
> 70's early 80's. Italdesign did the styling on it. The car was sold in
> small quantities in the U.S. (less than 500 if i recal the facts) and was
> discontinued when ferrarri wanted out of the deal. Hot looking car though
> with lots of lines similar to other ItalDesign cars of the period (DMC12,
> Esprit, Maserati, Izuzu impulse). I would take it to be a very hot
> collectors item, meant to be seen and not driven :^( unlike D's.
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This is my first posting here so I hope I do this right. :))
Another car that resembled the DeLorean was the first phase prototype of the
Cadillac Allanté built in 1983 by Pininfarina in Turin, Italy. It had four
seperate headlights with a grill just like the D. They were surrounded with
a rubber or plastic gray front end piece as well. Above the grill and
lights that piece was only about an inch long before the hood started but it
still looked a lot like a DeLorean.
But by late 83 when the second prototype came out, all those DeLorean
resemblances were gone and the car took on more of a look of it's own. One
day I'll get a picture of it up on my website:
http://www.mindspring.com/~gatewayaag
Well at least they still share the same spirit--low production orphan 2
seater.
--Jonathan Heslop DMC#000697
(Allanté NU126027, PU128044, & PU128171)
St. Louis, MO
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There are six nuts on studs holding the binnacle to the dashboard. Remove
them and the binnacle lifts straight up. Pop out the gauges and take the
binnacle to your local upholstery shop.
Dave Sontos
VIN 02573
delorean502@excite.com wrote:
> Is it possible to just by the binnicle (is that how it is spelled)
> without the instuments inside? Or do I have to buy it all in one
> piece? All my instuments work GREAT...never a problem, but the grey
> "hump" is cracked in many places from the sun. New ones from DMC
> Houston cost $600+ for the whole thing. OR, does anybody know how to
> cover up cracks...short term of coarse. I will replace it eventually.
> thanks alot
>
> Erik Geerdink
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In a message dated 11/3/99 8:55:53 AM Eastern Standard Time,
dmc_norway@hotmail.com writes:
<< I disagree with you Claude, on your thoughts about the British Government.
In fact, the British Government knew how the money was spent since they had
people at the board. Also, the GPD scandal has often been blamed on
Chapman/DeLorean. But what other fails to realize is that this deal was
APPROVED by the British Government, that is, the Bank of England. Mo >>
I have read most of the books that are out there on the DMC Blunder,and
again, JZD
was the the person who was used to living a lavish lifestyle (as he still
Does,look at his present estate)for example there was no reason for a startup
company for JZD to fly first class on the Concord back and forth from New
York to Britain,or buy $50,000
paintings for his Park Ave.offices(or even to have a very expensive office on
Park Ave.,or throw big money at Lotus Engineering,only for them,to "throw
away"the ERM process of making the car,and then Lotus just "cheapened" the
Delorean by coping their Lotus Esprit,Sure the British Government knew money
was being spent,but JZD,just like Mal.Bricklin were"Confidence Men"meaning
that they could sell you the shirt off your back,and you would think you were
getting a great bargain that was the kind of attitude that was present with
the British Gov.They figured that they could get a area that was war
torn,with a very high unemployment rate,and religious difference and get the
people working together and, make a profit at the same time to boot,but
again Delorean had a great idea at first,but he still had that GM
attitude,spend,spend spend,and don't worry about the bills,his idea was that
if he spent enough the British Gov.would have to much invested in the DMC
project to back off,because you must remember it is Very difficult to get any
Major Government involved in a private enterprise,but when they do WATCH
OUT,they go full speed ahead,and that is exactly what happened with the
British Gov.they were dazzled by JZD and he played his cards as far as he
could,until his blunder finally fell thru.
Claude
000570
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Id just like to know if it would be possible to get one of the automatic
antennas into the right front fender spot. I know the manual one is
supposed to go there, but it would be so much cooler if I could get my D to
have an auto antenna. Thanks in advance.
Garrit Taylor
7197
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Does anyone know what happened to the DeLoreans used in the "Back To The
Future" films? Where they kept, sold scrapped? And what Vin Numbers did they
have.
Scott.
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In a message dated 11/3/99 4:32:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, DMCJOE@att.net
writes:
<< here is only one statement that you made that I personally disagree with.
You said "hence the oversize factory". Based on th >>
Joe,by that I meant that for a one car factory to expect to produce X amount
of cars and keep all the workers and the factory going for a startup company
was way oversize,fine the property size was good but he should have built a
smaller factory to start and see how the "market" would bear his product,and
expand on site
if it became successful thus avoiding what "really" happened,too many cars
for the market to bear to keep the factory going,or at least KEPT the
spending down to reasonably minimum until it was profitable,in other words
do as Ferrari did,Small factory with a well built car,with a low volume
production,and a high price.I know he was under pressure from the British
Gov. to produce cars,but that was a big mistake
between him and the British gov. to not have more that one type of car
produced,or at least a non-gullwing Delorean,and possibly a convertible
Delorean.
Claude
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Carson,
You will have to check with the DMV but last time I checked the state of
California upped the requirement of an auto to be classified as historic
from 25 to 30 years. It has been a few years so as I said before give the
DMV a ring.
-SweatyEddy
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> Do any of you fellow California DMC owners know if our cars can be
> registered as a 'historical vehicle', and (more importantly) not have
> to be smogged? I wondered about this after reading about it in the
> latest DeLorean World Mag.
>
> I am also interested in the car's status in North Carolina since I will
> be moving there soon. Any info would be helpful!
>
> thanks,
>
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In a message dated 11/3/99 4:33:27 PM Eastern Standard Time,
mishka1@interlog.com writes:
<< please help me out if you
know a guy who knows a guy who knows another guy that owns one in
Canada please tell me! >>
I recently responded to another Canadian remarking that you might be
surprised to find some under your nose... but when my son checked
www.traderonline today, there wasn't one listed in all of Canada! On the
other hand, you're closer to a lot of US D's than you are to one in, say,
Vancouver. One word of advice (to any buyer): talk to SEVERAL owners as well
as sellers before you buy. I had to hang onto my wallet to keep money from
jumping out of it at the first DeLorean I actually saw for sale. It was an
'82, carefully garaged but totally unrestored, for an asking price of
$17,000. I now know that it would probably need a minimum of $5,000, up to
$10,000. to make it a daily driver. I know, because there are a number of
fully restored D's in that same (asking) price range, or less. Not concours,
but really great looking. One guy on this (DML) list, also a teenager, is in
NJ selling his for an asking price around $8,000 but it needs work and $$$.
So, happy hunting! - Wayne
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Actually, the earlier prototype for this car (the M1) DID have gullwing
doors and VERY DeLorean-esque windows. It was simply called the BMW Turbo
and was introduced in 1973. For more info (not much more) see "The Best Of
Motor Trend", their 50th Anniversary Special. This magazine also has two
pictures of and some words about the DeLorean. The M1 was a very limited
production car with only 457 examples produced. It did NOT have a V8 or
V12 and Ferrari had nothing to do with the design. The engine was
essentially the 3.4 from the 635CSi. For more info on the M1, see "The
Ultimate Classic Car Book" by our friend Quentin Willson. This book also
has a couple unfriendly pages (but nice pictures) about the DeLorean.
Now, if you want to see another prototype that looks ALOT like the
DeLorean, look up the Ford Mustang RSX designed by GHIA in the late
70s/early 80s. This can be found on page 240 of "The Complete Book of
Mustang". The doors may not be gullwings (can't tell from the picture) but
the windows look identical to the DeLorean.
--Rob Hook
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dcsj@excite.com wrote:
>
> While looking through the back of an AutoWeek mag., a couple months back,
I
> ran across a for sale ad with picture. The car was a 1980 BMW M1 It
appeared
> to be a 2seat sports coupe the design was strikingly similar too a
> Delorean/Lotus Espri Hybrid concept.
You are definately correct here. :) No gull-wing doors, but other than
that, the car looks very much like a Delorean. It was also designed by
Giugiaro and Ital Design, and I believe there were about 8000 produced,
although I could be mixing the production number up with the Z1.
> It was listed @ $85,000 . Is this a rare prototype or an actual
production
> model? I have to say its the sharpest looking BMW I've ever seen. The
front
> end looks delorean and back end looks espri.
I've seen two of them in person at the Euro99 show earlier this year,
and yes they are very impressive looking vehicles. I've never seen one
for less than 70-80000, though. :)
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Hi All,
Progress is going steadily on VIN 5927. I got my first roll of film
back, and made a web page of my first two weeks of progress. I think
this might be the worst-looking D I've ever seen, but things will be
changing shortly!!! =)
-Dave Stragand
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VIN 5927
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D'oh! I forgot the link. I must be loopy from breathing all that
leather cleaner tonight...
http://www.forwardlook.net/DMC
-Dave
Dave Stragand wrote:
> Progress is going steadily on VIN 5927. I got my first roll of film
> back, and made a web page of my first two weeks of progress. I think
> this might be the worst-looking D I've ever seen, but things will be
> changing shortly!!! =)
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I recently found repair records for my car tucked deep in the glove
box. It seems that my car was repaired quite exclusively at Delorean
One in California.
It would seem, however, that Delorean One doesn't have very good
bookkeeping because upon emailing them, they told me that they have no
records for my car... even though they last repaired it in 93 and I have
about 10 of their invoices.
I would imagine that most reputable places would try to keep records far
longer than 7 years, especially for a special car that stopped
production in 83.
I have to admit that I am very disappointed in Delorean One for not
having anything on my car, even though I have about $10,000 in repair
invoices for my car.
Anyone else have a similar experience with these guys?
J
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> So now the dilemma: I've searched endlessly for a black '81 5 speed
for
> ages. Frankly, I'm to the point now where if someone has a scrapped
one
> in the Ontario are I'd take it..... and pay as well. Even if it is a
> little ratty and doesn't run I'd be happy. I just want one to call my
> own once and for all.
I hear ya brother.
I looked for TWO YEARS all across Ontario for a solid Delorean. I saw
alot of junkers, a few passable ones... and even a few decent ones, but
nothing I'd want to own. I wanted a daily driver car, not a project
car. I ultimately had to fly to San Diego, CA to find and buy one.
If it is in your budget, I recommend going to CA to at least see a few.
The worst delorean in CA was better than the finest I could find
around Ontario. I saw far too many 'guidoed' cars, like monster
engines... or worse: painted deloreans. Also, I found alot of people
said their delorean was a "9/10" but they really were more like 5/10's.
Alot can happen to a car in 20 years, especially if it has changed
hands many times. Be careful to inspect wiring, engine, cockpit...
there can be many mistakes which will cost you to repair.
The car I ended up buying and having shipped back to me in Ottawa was a
81 5 speed with grey interior (I recommend Grey because Black is
unbelievably hot in the summer). Heck, Grey is hot too, but not as
hot. I only know of one other Delorean in Ottawa, but he never drives
it. It is in storage. Having a Delorean here is like owning a
spaceship that travels to mars: everyone has heard of such things, but
nobody has actually seen one until they see mine. It is a bit
unnerving actually... I can never get out of my car without someone
making a BTTF (flux capacitor, Marty McFly) comment, or someone wanting
a tour. That's ok sometimes, but not when I'm in a hurry. I'm sure
that I'm not the only person to have this problem.
> So as cheesy and as annoying as this sounds please help me out if you
> know a guy who knows a guy who knows another guy that owns one in
> Canada please tell me! Any fleeting ideas as to how I'd get my hands
on
> this fine peice of machinery are also welcomed.
Consider the following:
Owning is only the first step in the Delorean experience. Finding a
mechanic within 1000 miles of where you live is also a big problem. I
found a guy in Ottawa who knows the Volvo engine the DMC has, as well
as the fuel injection system.
But as for the rest, you're on your own. Since I'm a "long distance"
owner (ie: in Canada), the best place I have found to buy parts and to
just talk to someone who cares and who knows the car inside out is PJ
Grady www.pjgrady.com They also have some really cool 'zilla' products
which make the car alot more wonderful. IMHO, PJGrady is the best for
service, price and proximity (New York State).
> Mike Kadonoff
> 8 Cole Millway
> Toronto, ONT.
> M4N 3P8
I was just in Toronto seeing "Forever Swing" on Yonge. I brought my
delorean. The day after, I parked next to a Ferrari ... needless to
say the Delorean caught more stares and gasps than the red monster
parked next to me.
What type of budget are you on? I spent about $30,000 CDN (about
$17,500 US) all told getting my car back from California. I still have
my notes on some of the 'project cars' out here in Ontario if you're
looking for a starter. Just let me know.
Best regards,
J. Robbins
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I recently ordered door list pistons from PJ Grady's www.pjgrady.com
They worked great! My doors went from opening half way to opening
fully. Took about 5 minutes to install.
J
> > From: Mike $ <sheilaridez@hotmail.com>
> >
> > Hi, I just got an 81, red dmc, it is a beautiful car, but the
doors only
> go
> > up a little over half way, the struts seem very weak, and i'm
pretty sure
> it
> > is the problem. Could someone aim me in the direction of an
inexpensive
> > source for replacement struts for the doors, and are there any
cheaper
> > struts that can be used to replace the front and louver struts?
Any
> > information is greatly appreciated, i'm very new to the community,
but I
> > have been doing my homework.
> > thanks,
> > Mike Schaefer
>
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"doc" <doctor28-@email.msn.com> wrote:
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> Also, if I purchased the relay update, would that fix a lot of
> > the problems with the doors locking you in?? Or should I invest in
a
> > lockzilla? thanks
> >
> > Erik Geerdink
> > 4512
>
> Lockzilla is a must for reliability of the door locks. I would
strongly
> recomend installing one before reconnecting the door lock system.
>
> Robert Starling
> Vin#5252
I second the motion. I recently purchased lockzilla and can't believe
the difference. You only need to get locked inside your car once to
realize how poorly designed the original door control module is.
FYI: https://ssl.internetcreations.com/grady/power.htm
J
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> Hello DMLers,
>
> I live in Canada and I don't own a DeLorean (yet.) As you can guess,
there
> aren't many of them at all here, and I would really like to get in
touch
> with someone who owns one. If you do, or you know someone who does,
please
> let me know.
I'm in Eastern Ontario (Ottawa) and own a DMC12. I know of someone in
Picton who owns one. I've seen a few scattered across Ontario, but
nothing wonderful.
I had to go to California to buy mine.
If you have any questions, let me know!
J
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Could anyone advise if the Bung on the Sump is 3/8" BSP or 8mm
Regards
John Hanley
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Does anyone out there know the color codes of the wires that plug into the
Craig radio. I am replacing it with a Kenwood and knowing which wire goes
where would save me a lot of time.
Robert Starling
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On a hasty trip to the airport, the car I was in passed a flatbed truck with
what looked to be a 4 door DeLorean. It turned out to be either a:
Aston Martin Lagonda V8 (Series IV) 1987-1990
http://www.globalserve.net/~hidinger/aml/postwar/l-v8-3.htm
or a:
Lagonda V8 (Series II & III) 1976-1987
http://www.globalserve.net/~hidinger/aml/postwar/l-v8-2.htm
For other post war Aston Martin cars see:
http://www.globalserve.net/~hidinger/aml/postwar/index.htm
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If you are going to be redoing both the door headliners and center T
panels, They sell a nice gray fabric at Wal-Mart. I purchased that and
a 1/8" think insulation material for the backing. Using 3M super
adhesive spray in even coats, I adhered the backing/fabric to the
headliner panels. I was actually surprised on how good it came out.
Two notes for doing this
1) Adhere the fabric to the backing BEFORE adhering to the headliner.
I had adhered the backing and then the fabric to the backing... Turned
out to be a real pain to get it smooth but I finally did
2) Leave lots of extra fabric off the ends to be able to run up to the
weather stripping. I cut it a little short and almost didn't have
enough to cover up to the rubber stripping
For never doing anything like this before, I think it came out quite
well. Give yourself LOTS of time to do it. If your not a patient
person (which I am definitely not) You may want to let a professional
apolster do it!!
Raymond McKay
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Scott asked:
>Does anyone know what happened to the DeLoreans used in the "Back To
The
>Future" films? Where they kept, sold scrapped? And what Vin Numbers
did they
>have.
I'm not online currently but I know that alot of this information is in
the archives, both on eGroups and also some was dealt with in the
archives at http://www.dmcnews.com ... check with your searches for
"BTTF" and "Universal Studios" -- Specifically I'd check the 10/13/97
issue or around that time frame on the DmC News site :-) I don't
remember whether the vin numbers are available on the list archives tho
...
Sincerely,
Josh S.
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I was reading one of the gaming magazines and saw what looked to be a
DeLorean in a new computer game published by Activision. I dropped off
at their www site and lo and behold the game (Titled "Interstate '82")
has what appears to be an '82 DeLorean knockoff in their new game :-)
With extremely similar styling and appearance the quote from the WWW
site on the vehicle was as follows:
"'82 De Landau
The De Landau's body is made of beautiful brushed stainless steel
making it quite resilient. The car is consequently quite heavy when
compared to other sports cars of comparable size."
The WWW page for Interstate '82 is:
http://www.activision.com/games/i82/
Just a note for those who want a computer game with the D's ...
-Josh S.
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anybody know where I can find an oil drain tool? would Auto Zone have
this or is this a DMC Houston only thing? and if so, how much are
these things? thanks
Erik Geerdink
4512
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Starting time for dyno day is 9 AM. We have not made plans for lunch,
but there is a nice hot dog place next door.
So far we have about 10 people coming with testing of 4-5 cars.
Bob
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Same here Mike! I too know the pain of living in a DeLorean deprived
country. The only difference is I'm 14. I am slowly driving everyone in my
family insane with DeLoreans, but I think that I've convinced them to go to
Cleveland for DMC 2000! The sad fact is that I've never seen a DeLorean in
real life, except when I was about three, someone out by Niagra Falls drove
one to work every single day, right past my house! I was just not old
enough to remember it!!!!!!
Oh well... if anyone has one they want to get rid of (I can't imagine why)
please let me know! My goal is to buy one and work on it until I can drive.
Kevin
(blast59@hotmail.com)
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>Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 11:08:37 -0800
>
>Dear DML members,
>
>The day has come. I'm finally going to get one. My own D!
>
>These are the elated thoughts that run through my mind all day and
>nights however I my bubble was a little burst when I found out almost
>every D being sold is in America somewhere. Arg. I'm stuck.
>
>So a little insight into the Deloren obsessed psycho you read before
>you. I'm an eighteen-year old high school student with aspirations of
>Electrical and mechanical engineering. I drive an 81 Volvo 240 GLT with
>272k on it (second best car on the planet) and all I've ever wanted in
>terms of a dream car was the Delorean.
>
>So now the dilemma: I've searched endlessly for a black '81 5 speed for
>ages. Frankly, I'm to the point now where if someone has a scrapped one
>in the Ontario are I'd take it..... and pay as well. Even if it is a
>little ratty and doesn't run I'd be happy. I just want one to call my
>own once and for all.
>
>So as cheesy and as annoying as this sounds please help me out if you
>know a guy who knows a guy who knows another guy that owns one in
>Canada please tell me! Any fleeting ideas as to how I'd get my hands on
>this fine peice of machinery are also welcomed.
>
>not much more to say other than just remember the instant you realized
>the Delorean was yours.... Wouldn't you want someone else to know that
>type of joy?
>
>Please Email me back, even if it is just to say hi at:
>
>Mishka1@interlog.com
>
>If you need to cantact me in any other way here's my info.
>
>(416) 485-4708 (press 3 to leavre a msg)
>
>Mike Kadonoff
>8 Cole Millway
>Toronto, ONT.
>M4N 3P8
>
>Thanks again!
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Claude wrote:
>I have read most of the books that are out there on the DMC >Blunder,and
>again, JZD was the the person who was used to living a >lavish lifestyle
>(as he still Does,look at his present estate)
Mr. DeLorean's present estate in Bedminster,NJ, was bought before he started
DMC. Lavish lifestyle? Well, he has declared bankruptcy so as to protect his
house and so that he can live there...Now who wouldn't have done that?
>for example there was no reason for a startup company for JZD to fly >first
>class on the Concord back and forth from New York to Britain,
AFAIK, Mr. DeLorean was in Northern Ireland two times.
>or buy $50,000 paintings for his Park Ave.offices(or even to have a >very
>expensive office on Park Ave.,
Well, you may have a point here, but DeLorean's point was to be noticed. You
don't start up a new car company living in barracks. This style is of course
expensive, yet essential in getting investors to invest.
>or throw big money at Lotus Engineering,only for them,to "throw >away"the
>ERM process of making the car,and then Lotus just >"cheapened" the Delorean
>by coping their Lotus Esprit,
The ERM process was only patented but never tried out. Therefore DMC went
for the Lotus solution - cheaper, and proven! Imagine what could happen if
ERM was chosen and didn't work. The company would have gone out of business
at once...
>Sure the British Government knew money was being spent,but JZD,just >like
>Mal.Bricklin were "Confidence Men" meaning that they could sell >you the
>shirt off your back,and you would think you were getting a >great bargain
>that was the kind of attitude that was present with
>the British Gov.They figured that they could get a area that was war
>torn,with a very high unemployment rate,and religious difference and >get
>the people working together and, make a profit at the same time >to
>boot,but again Delorean had a great idea at first,but he still >had that GM
>attitude,spend,spend spend,and don't worry about the >bills,his idea was
>that if he spent enough the British Gov.would >have to much invested in the
>DMC project to back off,because you >must remember it is Very difficult to
>get any Major Government >involved in a private enterprise,but when they do
>WATCH OUT,they go >full speed ahead,and that is exactly what happened with
>the
>British Gov.they were dazzled by JZD and he played his cards as far >as he
>could,until his blunder finally fell thru.
You have some points here, but again, this is only half the story. The
British Government (Conservatives) REFUSED to give DeLorean export-financing
while every other manufacturer gets that whether they make tooth-brushes or
steam-engines. To quote Thatcher "You're on your own!" Besides, I think
there is more...the Conservatives couldnt allow Labour to have success with
the DeLorean project... It cost the British Taxpayer a lot more to close the
factory than it would have cost to keep the company afloat a few months
more...
As I see it DeLorean did only one mistake, and that was that the company was
too slow to get to the other markets, esp. the European market. The car was
a winner, and when recession set in in the US, the European market could
have swallowed those "extra" cars that piled up...
Best wishes
Stian Birkeland
NORWAY
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Does anybody know of a GREAT product to get out tough stains on
carpet...for the Delorean of course! I took out my seats and I want to
give all the carpet area a good clean, and hopefully make them look
like new. Thanks
Erik
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My auto antenna is located inside the air intake on the rear of the drivers side. If you open the engine and look to the left you will see some bolts holding on an access pannel, if you remove it you will find plenty of room to insert your antenna. You will have to figure out a way to position it so it will stay, and then when it comes up it will stick out of the air vent and retract into the vent when down. Also when down it cannot be seen. Hope this helps, I just had to replace mine last weekend- some idiot broke it before i bought the car- he opened the louvres then turned on the radio then closed the louvres---> on my antenna. *SNAP
good luck
Garrit Taylor <carlover53@hotmail.com> wrote:
Id just like to know if it would be possible to get one of the automatic
antennas into the right front fender spot. I know the manual one is
supposed to go there, but it would be so much cooler if I could get my D to
have an auto antenna. Thanks in advance.
Garrit Taylor
7197
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<P>My auto antenna is located inside the air intake on the rear of the drivers side. If you open the engine and look to the left you will see some bolts holding on an access pannel, if you remove it you will find plenty of room to insert your antenna. You will have to figure out a way to position it so it will stay, and then when it comes up it will stick out of the air vent and retract into the vent when down. Also when down it cannot be seen. Hope this helps, I just had to replace mine last weekend- some idiot broke it before i bought the car- he opened the louvres then turned on the radio then closed the louvres---> on my antenna. *SNAP</P>
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These are still kept, at universal cities (i am pretty sure) and i believe
that the VIN to the one in the first films was #6475 (i may be wrong, so
please correct me)
Jay
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I've been meaning to post this, but its slipped my mind. About a month
ago my friends dad gave me a gift. It is a professionaly done framed
picture of the prototype delorean. the one with the Citroen engine,
muffle is painted yellow, only one latch to hold the doors down and
thats right in the senter of the opening. the SS panels look a LOT
better than the production panels,,,very sharp and precice. My friends
dad works at a place called GENTEX. They produce high tech rearview
mirrors for very expensive cars. it was hanging in one of the
confrence rooms there. GENTEX never worked on anything with delorean
BTW. I will scan the pic and the back of it (it has where it came
from). I was just wondering if anybody else has a pic of this "D"
professionaly done....and where you bought it from. thanks
Erik Geerdink
4512
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Where do you get Lockzilla, and how much do they cost?
Thanks
Todd
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What about us poor unfortunates who live in the UK? Most of us have imported
our cars across the pond. You should think yourself lucky having the US as a
neighbour. Believe me that its probably a whole lot cheaper to ship a car up
to Canada than it is to get one across the Atlantic (and a bit quicker too!!!)
Nigel
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Has anybody seen one of the recent Deloreans posted on eBay claiming
that the Delorean is one of the fasted production cars on the road? He
said he got it to go over 160MPH with the stock engine! Its for sale
starting off at $15,000. 160MHP without any mods or turbos?!?! Can
the Northstar Delorean even go 160MPH?? I e-mailed the seller and he
says it goes well over 160MPH.
Bill
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they have some cars on display at the universal studios theme parks. i don't
know the vin numbers. apparently 6 or 7 were used in the film, meaning there
are 4 or 5 still unaccounted for.
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The DeLorean used in the movie "The Wedding Singer" has no DMC logo on the
grill. Why is this? The only DeLoreans I've seen without a DMC logo were
the prototypes. They wouldn't use a prototype in the movie would they?
-Tom
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We am in Cape Vincent, New York right across from Kingston, Ontario. I am
not sure where you are in Ontario, but we are always glad to meet fellow
enthusiasts. Please email me privately regarding this matter at
stiefel@geocities.com
Jack and Virginia Stiefel
DMC Vin 3461
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>Hello DMLers,
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>I live in Canada and I don't own a DeLorean (yet.) As you can guess, there
>aren't many of them at all here, and I would really like to get in touch
>with someone who owns one. If you do, or you know someone who does, please
>let me know.
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>Thanks,
>Kevin
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All I know about the Back to the Future DeLoreans is that they are still
intact and they are on display in like California.
John Feldman
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One of them is at Uneversal Studios i thing flordia
with the "time train"
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If he is talking about the stock DeLorean (PRV) engine going 160MPH,
without any modifications he is smoking crack cocaine. ;-)
--- porn_starr_bill@hotmail.com wrote:
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> that the Delorean is one of the fasted production cars on the road?
> He
> said he got it to go over 160MPH with the stock engine! Its for sale
> starting off at $15,000. 160MHP without any mods or turbos?!?! Can
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The best carpet cleaner I have worked with is Spot Shot, they sell it at
Home Depot and probably other large hardware stores. It did miracles with
my mats.
Tamir
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delorean502@excite.com wrote:
> Does anybody know of a GREAT product to get out tough stains on
> carpet...for the Delorean of course! I took out my seats and I want to
> give all the carpet area a good clean, and hopefully make them look
> like new. Thanks
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The best carpet cleaner I have worked with is <b>Spot Shot</b>, they sell
it at Home Depot and probably other large hardware stores. It did
miracles with my mats.
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stains on
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<br>like new. Thanks
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I once read on a web page that they never used a REAL delorean in the
BTTF movies. I dont know if that information was correct or not. The
author said that they built lookalike DMC's. If I find the page again
I will post it. If anyones knows that I am wrong feel free to speak
up...;-)
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As moderator this week, I just reviewed the messages that were posted so
far. I noticed that a number of questions were left unanswered (some
lead to tangents but never actually got answers). Most of these
concerned alternate sources for parts like shocks and window motors.
I also saw quite a few questions asked today that might not get answers
(e.g. The Wedding Singer, radio antenna, and Lockzilla questions).
The reason they might not receive answers is because the topics have
already been covered extensively by the DML. Many subscribers will see
the repeat topic and immediately delete the question without
responding. If the DML were still running at a ridiculous pace (more
than 100 postings per day in September) I would try to discourage these
repeat topics. Right now there is room for them.
Even if someone does answer them, the response will take at least half a
day. If the people asking the questions had scanned the back issues
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No, that is not true. Search the archives, from the info I know, there were
seven Deloreans used in the movie (most real, others models), and four
Deloreans made into BTTF cars after the ride came out at both theme parks.
The cars they display are not really from the movie, just mock ups to
impress tourists. I am almost positive that one of the cars from the first
movie is in Steven Speilberg's hands, and the other real ones are kept in
storage, probably falling apart.
Tamir
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> BTTF movies. I dont know if that information was correct or not. The
> author said that they built lookalike DMC's. If I find the page again
> I will post it. If anyones knows that I am wrong feel free to speak
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Hello list
I am also a 81' delorean owner and have some problems. My car radio is not working at all. Last owner
told me that when he jumped up the delorean, then the radio did not work since that. I doubt the radio fuse was burned up. Then I looked at the manual for the fuses.
One near the relay box was fine. Is anybody know where is others or any recommendtion for fixing my radio? I feel pretty lonely to drive a car without music. Thank you for help.
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You have to remove the center console in order to remove the radio properly.
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> Thanks,
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Hi all,
I've been a member of this list for about a year under my old e-mail address.
I've never actually posted anything until now. Earlier this year I was
involved in a front end collision at around 30 mph with my baby. It's been
my weekend car for 5 years now and I miss driving it and I have better
resources now ($$) so I'm finally getting around to fixing it, that and my
wife is tired of watching it sit in the garage, and probably dreaming of
putting it out of it's misery :). The crash thankfully was offset to the
right but the hood, fascia, radiator assembly and right fender have all been
trashed. The fiberglass was slightly crushed in the front right but I still
think it's possible to temporarily peice it back together until a permanent
fix can be found. If anybody has any of these parts for sale (used
prefereably) please E-Mail me privately
Hood (stamping releif lines only prefferably)
Right Fender (passanger)
Front Fascia
Radiator Assembly (radiator, condenser, fans, any or all)
Thanks in Advance
Michael Robberts
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I work at Universal Studios Florida and the VIN # is SCEDT26TXBD006475. I'm
trying every avenue to get the Delorean back to its original self. I've
printed out the previous postings on how poorly the car is looking and gave
them to Marketing and Guest Services. I've spoken to the Garage maintenance
tech's but they are tired with dealing with the car. I've tried to join
forces with the supervisors in the "Celebrity's" division. They are the look
a likes of Doc Brown, Mark's Brothers, Ghost Busters ect... and each one of
these characters has a vehicle in the parade except Doc Brown rides around
on a bike. The response I get is there is no money in the budget set aside
for it and its not a high priority
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I work at Universal Studios Florida and the VIN # is SCEDT26TXBD006475.
I'm trying every avenue to get the Delorean back to its original self.
I've printed out the previous postings on how poorly the car is looking
and gave them to Marketing and Guest Services. I've spoken to the Garage
maintenance tech's but they are tired with dealing with the
car. I've tried to join forces with the supervisors in the "Celebrity's"
division. They are the look a likes of Doc Brown, Mark's Brothers, Ghost
Busters ect... and each one of these characters has a vehicle
in the parade except Doc Brown rides around on a bike. The response
I get is there is no money in the budget set aside for it and its not a
high priority
<p>Jim
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is that they are still
<br>intact and they are on display in like California.
<p>John Feldman
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Hey everyone. Back in Feb. I think the DML actually figured out how many D's
were used in the movies, what happened to them, how many there were and
everything, so if anyone would like the compilation I made, feel free to
e-mail me. (Don't be surprised if you've been on the list a while and you
see something YOU contributed yourself!) Hope that helps...
~Rick
VIN--soon to have one in NJ!!
'55 Chevy :)
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It sounds like that seller is full of it. He probably put that on there to
help sell it for a little more.
Thats just my 2 cents,
Johnnie
In a message dated 11/4/99 3:10:05 PM Central Standard Time,
porn_starr_bill@hotmail.com writes:
<< Has anybody seen one of the recent Deloreans posted on eBay claiming
that the Delorean is one of the fasted production cars on the road? He
said he got it to go over 160MPH with the stock engine! Its for sale
starting off at $15,000. 160MHP without any mods or turbos?!?! Can
the Northstar Delorean even go 160MPH?? I e-mailed the seller and he
says it goes well over 160MPH.
Bill >>
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It funny you post this, I was about to respond to Erik's question about
the oil drain tool with a 'Check the archives' message, but wanted to
see is someone else already posted it to the list.
Frankly, I dont think that the message volume should be a factor in
deciding what messages to bounce... Especially when a topic (such as the
oil drain plug) has been covered SO MANY TIMES.
I will go as far to say that if the question is so basic that it would
be hard to believe that no one has asked it before, it should be bounced
no matter what..
I mean no personal insult to Erik (he just happens to be my
example--sorry!), but does he think he is the first person on the list
to try and change his own oil??
So I say Erik please check the archives for the answer to your question.
To the moderators, No matter what the traffic, as I see larger numbers
of messages that are just not worth my time to read, I will be more
likely to start deleting. I think other list old-timers will agree.
And now, back to our regular show-
Marc
Mike Substelny wrote:
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> The reason they might not receive answers is because the topics have
> already been covered extensively by the DML. Many subscribers will see
> the repeat topic and immediately delete the question without
> responding. If the DML were still running at a ridiculous pace (more
> than 100 postings per day in September) I would try to discourage these
> repeat topics. Right now there is room for them.
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I've just started work on repairing the Window Regulator's and
alignment on my Delorean, but am completely confused as to how to
proceed. :(
I was able to successfully remove the upper trim panel on the door.
That part was quite easy, so I thought that removing the lower assembly
shouldn't be too bad, either. The instructions in the workshop manual
say that you simply unscrew the mount bracket on the top, break loose
the small plastic clamps on the bottom, unscrew the pull strap bracket
with a long philips screwdriver, and pull the thing off.
Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, that long Philips screwdriver
would need by about a foot long, as the bracket looks like it is
extremely difficult to get too without having the armrest off (which,
of course, is impossible without already having removed the pull
handle:).
Anyway, suffice it to say, I am perplexed. Is there any easier way to
go about removing this thing, as I can't imagine how you could every
reattach the handle the way the book describes?
Thanks much,
Jess
http://www.biddin.com/delorean/
VIN# 5220
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I dont think this is true... I see in the listing that he does claim to
have a "corresponding speedometer". This would not be original, but he
does not say that.
Maybe it was a windy day, and he had some sails tied to the roof!
Based on the gear ratio of a Delorean, I would expect that in 5th gear
you would have to maintain about 6000RPM for 160MPH. That is assuming
you could keep the car on the road at that speed.
I have had my twin turbo at 130MPH for a sustained 15 seconds (I have a
170MPH spedo). That was about the point that I started to feel on the
edge of good control of the car.
160, I just dont think so. Maybe 160KMPH? I agree with Carson, he is
Smokin' Crack!
I see the listing does not say he drove it 160MPH (Smart move.. Its not
a selling point to say you dove a car like that!). The sellers claim is
that it is RATED at 160MPH.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=193582183
The pictures look familiar.. Is it someone on the list?
porn_starr_bill@hotmail.com wrote:
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> said he got it to go over 160MPH with the stock engine! Its for sale
> starting off at $15,000. 160MHP without any mods or turbos?!?! Can
<SNIP>
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Which fans are you talking about ? The interior heater fan or the exterior
cooling fans.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> From: DMC83in99@aol.com
>
> Last night was the first night I have gotten to really use my heater and
the
> fans for it. After doing this most of the day, I found that after
cutting
> the car completely off, the fans would run for 2 or 3 extra seconds.
Also,
> the horn quit working yesterday.
> Scott
> #16738
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Rich,
This sounds like an acceleration enrichment problem. Try this test.
Have an assistant turn the ignition key to the start position for just an
instant and let the ignition key return to the ignition on position (You
don't want the engine to start) while you listen for the frequency valve
buzzing sound in the engine compartment. The buzz will only last about a
second and a half. If you do not hear the buzz your frequency valve is not
operating. This will cause a lean condition when you accelerate causing the
condition you describe. Contact us directly for more details.
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> From: Rich Kula <rkula@landrum-brown.com>
>
> This morning I noticed some hesitation in 1st gear (5 speed with a single
turbo) and was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction.
I had to press the pedal all the way to the floor and once it hit 2000 to
2500 it seemed normal again. Just it seemed slower in getting there. The
other gears and speeds seemed fine from an acceleration standpoint. Thanks
for your support.
>
> Richard Kula
>
> #1460
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Carson,
I have had several inquires about this subject so I will publish this
information at our website within the next couple of days. I will notify
you when the information goes on line.
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> From: Carson Clark <cnsandog@yahoo.com>
>
> Why should we disconnect the lock feature? It is very nice to have.
>
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Erik,
Binnacles, less instruments, are available from PJ Grady and DMC Houston
for under $350.
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> From: delorean502@excite.com
>
> Is it possible to just by the binnicle (is that how it is spelled)
> without the instuments inside? Or do I have to buy it all in one
> piece? All my instuments work GREAT...never a problem, but the grey
> "hump" is cracked in many places from the sun. New ones from DMC
> Houston cost $600+ for the whole thing. OR, does anybody know how to
> cover up cracks...short term of coarse. I will replace it eventually.
> thanks alot
>
> Erik Geerdink
> 4512
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Tod asked:
"Where do you get Lockzilla, and how much do they cost?"
Lockzilla, (along with fanzilla [a replacment for the often problematic
engine fan] and all of the excellent 'zilla products and apparently
fiberglass headliners [pulled from a post to the DML a number of weeks
ago, tho I havn't found them on their site] along with alot of other
great products and improvments) are available from P.J. Grady.
Their www site is: http://www.pjgrady.com
The cost is $389.00 for the entire kit plus a $25.00 core charge per
door solenoid. Plus s/h etc.
-Josh S.
vin: Not yet ...
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Just wanted to let everyone know that I know a guy who has an extra
PERFECT CONDITION drivers side front fender. If anybody need one, let
me know privately and I'll give you his e-mail address. he also has
MANY MANY other needed Delorean parts.
I wish I had a stockpile of Delorean parts like this guy has.
Erik
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