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----------------------------------------------------------------- 4381. DMC Joe Re: Armrest Removal 4382. DMC Joe Re: tow truck anyone? 4383. DMC Joe Re: hesitation from the line 4384. Darryl Tinnerstet Re: door panel removal 4385. DMC Joe Re: History Channel Documentary 4386. DMC Joe More DeLorean Information 4387. Mr Copies Windshield rearview spacer?? 4388. BondAtomic(AT)aol.com DeLorean Interior 4389. Mike Atkinson Air Filter Assembly 4390. Ann & Ed Thompson Re: eBay Delorean 4391. Duke Engine for sale and bellhousing question 4392. Marc A Levy Re: Unanswered DeLorean Questions 4393. TTanaka504(AT)aol.com Re: Radio fuse 4394. DMCCHRIS(AT)aol.com getting paint off 4395. James Espey Re: 140mph speedo (was: Hell freezes over!) 4396. joe_dozzo(AT)msn.com Looking for some assistance in CO 4397. Josh Haldeman Re: History Channel Documentary 4398. raddad(AT)cmn.net 85 mph speedo 4399. DMC5524(AT)aol.com Re: eBay Delorean 4400. Bobby D. Mims Delorean For Sale 4401. Jesse D. Sightler Re: door panel removal 4402. William T Wilson Re: eBay Delorean 4403. jrobbins(AT)brit.ca Re: tow truck anyone? 4404. jrobbins(AT)brit.ca Re: tow truck anyone? 4405. jrobbins(AT)brit.ca Help? 4406. tundra(AT)stratos.net Re: bellhousing question 4407. JimmuC(AT)aol.com DMC kit car? 4408. Jim Cargo Net 4409. Jim radiator hose 4410. Kelvin Re: DeLorean Interior 4411. Peter Lucas CV joint blues 4412. Comet42483(AT)aol.com Re: Windshield rearview spacer?? -----------------------------------------------------------------
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)att.net> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 22:11:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Armrest Removal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Jess, It will take too many words to describe how to complete this procedure. E-mail us directly to receive our phone number and we will walk you through the process. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: jsight(AT)pair.com > > I've just started work on repairing the Window Regulator's and > alignment on my Delorean, but am completely confused as to how to > proceed. :( > > Thanks much, > > Jess > http://www.biddin.com/delorean/ > VIN# 5220
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)att.net> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 22:14:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: tow truck anyone? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
This is the very reason why we recommend that owners un plug their factory lock modules.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: jrobbins(AT)brit.ca > > > I locked myself out of my running delorean tonight. Keroist, what a > nightmare. I had to call 2 tow truck drivers, and then finally a > locksmith to open my doors. > > The failure was strange, because my doors were not locked when I > started the car and closed the doors. When I slammed the door closed, > I heard the lock activate... and 2 hours later, with my car still > running, I was finally able to get back into my car after a specialist > came and slimjim'ed the door. > > Lockzilla, here I come. > > J
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)att.net> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 23:22:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: hesitation from the line Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Mark, Thanks for the explanation but I already know how the system works. After 14 years of explaining the operation of the frequency valve I found that many owners have difficulty hearing the frequency valve while the engine is running. My test enables a person to listen for the buzz in a quitter environment.
Thanks again.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: WMARKDAVIDSON <WMARKDAVIDSON(AT)email.msn.com> > To: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com > Subject: [DML] hesitation from the line > Date: Saturday, November 06, 1999 12:38 PM > > Joe > Maybe I misunderstood what you were saying about the frequency valve. Are > you saying the frequency valve will only buzz for about a second and a half > and then stop? I do not believe that the frequency can stop working.
Mark
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 21:25:36 -0800 From: Darryl Tinnerstet <darryl(AT)techline.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: door panel removal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Forget what the manual says. Carefully remove the plastic escutcheon that goes around the inner door release and door lock handles. Look down into the door and you will see two bolts that hold the door pull bracket to the door. Remove them - a magnetic socket is a big help, or some gum inside the socket - and the door panel will come right off. You still have to carefully pry out the plastic "fir tree" clips of course.
Darryl Tinnerstet Specialty Automotive McCleary, WA PH: 360-495-4640 FAX: 360-495-4680
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)att.net> Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 00:18:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: History Channel Documentary Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I think you may be missing the point. I was responding to a list members questions about John DeLorean's attitude when the company was suffering from tremendous financial losses. My statement refereed to the reaction of investors who were quite upset that instead of cutting expenses JZD continued to live a life of luxury.
I am not saying he should have moved out of his Park Avenue offices but that maybe he should have vacated one of the two full floors that the operation was leasing.
Check out my review of the program on the main page of our web-site.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: Dale Schaub <DaleSchaub(AT)worldnet.att.net> > > The Park Avenue offices have nothing to do with his budget overruns. I run > an office and his Park Avenue office cost are extremely small when compared > to other expenses. Although I have not tried DeLorean's approach, I do not > see it as the reason he needed money.
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)att.net> Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 00:43:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] More DeLorean Information Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Mike, I have noticed that you are new to the list and wanted to invite you to visit our web-site http://www.deloreanservices.com You will find lots of useful information about your DeLorean there. We monitor our HELP page 24 hours a day 7 days a week so if you need information fast just send us a request. You can also reach DMC Joe at 770 631-4800.
We are also in the process of building a New Owners page. The page will feature all kinds of information for individuals who are just beginning to experience the fun and excitement of owning a DeLorean.
BTW for more information on Zilla products go to http://www.pjgrady.com
We have been installing all of the Zilla products since there inception with excellent results.
If you would like to be added to our mailing list just send us your mailing address and we will plug you into the system.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Mr Copies" <mrcopies(AT)jet2.net> Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 01:11:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Windshield rearview spacer?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002B_01BF27F3.E22E8920" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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Someone earlier referred to a spacer that was manditory for mounting your r= earview mirror. It apparently insured that your windshield would not crack= .
I have a black 1 1/2" square just above where the old rearview mirror was g= lued directly to the glass. Should the rearview mirror have been glued to = this black pad? Is the black square the spacer? It looks as if it is embe= dded to the windshield. Sorry if these are stupid questions.
Incidently, the previous owner of my Delorean used a GM truck rearview mir= ror...and up to 2 minutes ago I thought it was the Delorean original....it = works perfect. =
I think rearview mirrors are yet another part DMC Houston doesn't have, pl= us...who has time to wait for their terrificly fast shipping (6 weeks and 3= phone calls later) ....not that I'm bitter. :)
mike(AT)mrcopies.com
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manditory for mounting your rearview mirror. It apparently insured th= at =
your windshield would not crack.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I have a black 1 1/2" square just = above =
where the old rearview mirror was glued directly to the glass. Should= the =
rearview mirror have been glued to this black pad? Is the black squar= e the =
spacer? It looks as if it is embedded to the windshield. = Sorry =
if these are stupid questions.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Incidently, the previous owner of= my =
Delorean used a GM truck rearview mirror...and up to 2 minutes ago I though= t it =
was the Delorean original....it works perfect. </FONT></D= IV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I think rearview mirrors are yet anothe= r part =
DMC Houston doesn't have, plus...who has time to wait for their terri= ficly =
fast shipping (6 weeks and 3 phone calls later) ....not that I'm bitter. =
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: BondAtomic(AT)aol.com Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 01:31:30 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] DeLorean Interior Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Dear members,
If anyone has a picture of the inside of a DeLorean I would be most generous. Also, if you have a picture of the back, it would be great. If you have a file of them, please send it to me.
Thanks!!
John Feldman
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Mike Atkinson" <mikeatk(AT)concentric.net> Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 02:40:20 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Air Filter Assembly Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01BF2800.44CD9CE0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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Just wanted to know if anyone has an extra cover or top part for the airfil= ter assembly they would like to sell that is in good condition. The top pa= rt is all I need but would consider the whole assembly. I'd like to replac= e my old one with one that is in better shape.
Thanks
Mike Atkinson
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extra cover or top part for the airfilter assembly they would lik= e to =
sell that is in good condition. The top part is all I need but would =
consider the whole assembly. I'd like to replace my old one with= one =
that is in better shape.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike Atkinson</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A =
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 08:21:08 -0500 From: Ann & Ed Thompson <RappaRivaRat(AT)erols.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7vsn19$bqmj(AT)eGroups.com> Subject: [DML] Re: eBay Delorean Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Has anybody seen one of the recent Deloreans posted on eBay claiming > that the Delorean is one of the fasted production cars on the road? He > said he got it to go over 160MPH with the stock engine!
The DeLorean was never touted to be "one of the fastest production cars on the road". If it were, it would have never been fitted with the 85 MPH clock. Those that have ever owned/driven a DeLorean know better.
According to the manufacturer's specifications, the DeLorean's top speed was unrealistically advertised at 130 MPH. This was a "calculated" value. The test track at the factory was not nearly long enough to attempt to achieve a speed anywhere near 130 MPH. As a matter of fact the track was designed for a top speed of around 70 MPH, the top legal speed limit in most of the civilized world at the time.
"Car and Driver" reported the top speed to be 120 MPH, "estimated". Extensive road tests conducted by "Road & Track" revealed a more realistic top speed of 109 MPH in 4th gear at 5600 rpm and the same top speed of 109 MPH in 5th gear at 4400 rpm. The somewhat anemic engine at only 130 HP (AT) 5500 rpm, with the torque topping out at 162 lb-ft (AT) 2750 rpm, did not have enough horsepower or torque to overcome the laws of nature above 109 MPH with this particular car on that particular day at that particular test site. These are simply scientific test facts. A caveat: On any given day, it is highly unlikely that any two identical automobiles will produce identical test results. A very generous margin of error of +10% would have produced a top speed of less than 120 MPH in R&T's tests.
Regards, Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982) Midlothian, VA USA
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Duke" <at88mph(AT)mobis.com> Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 09:32:46 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Engine for sale and bellhousing question Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00EC_01BF2839.E22844C0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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I am selling my engine out of my '81 DeLorean. We are starting the engine = swap next weekend and I no longer need the stock one. I just had it rebuil= t (upper engine from head gaskets up) and am asking $1000 obo. Please emai= l me directly for info. =
I am also wondering if anyone who has installed a chevy engine could lend s= ome help on a question. I need to make a chevy bellhousing. Does anyone k= now where I could get one or could anyone who has done a chevy conversion g= ive me some advice. This is the biggest problem I'm faced with. My car is= , unfortunately, an automatic.
Thanks in advance,
Duke
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starting the engine swap next weekend and I no longer need the stock one.&n= bsp; =
I just had it rebuilt (upper engine from head gaskets up) and am asking $10= 00 =
obo. Please email me directly for info. </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I am also wondering if anyone who has installed a chevy= engine =
could lend some help on a question. I need to make a chevy =
bellhousing. Does anyone know where I could get one or could anyone w= ho =
has done a chevy conversion give me some advice. This is the biggest =
problem I'm faced with. My car is, unfortunately, an =
automatic.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks in advance,</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Duke</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV>
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 11:33:33 -0500 From: Marc A Levy <malevy(AT)dnrc.bell-labs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0.1fa03a0e.2554d2a9(AT)aol.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Unanswered DeLorean Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In that case, let me clarify-
There are some topics that it is good to cover again. As the list grows, many topics get new views or better answers than they have had before. My comment was directed more towards the VERY COMMON questions that have been answered so may times before, and there is just no new information that can be added to it.
My example of the the Oil drain plug questions (again, nothing personal against the poster of that question) is that it is highly unlikely that there have been any new developments in information on this. This question has been answered many times, and a answer can be found quickly in the archives. MUCH more quickly than waiting for someone to answer it again! (Since the post of his question, no one has answered it yet!).
You are correct, I dont have to read every posting. I choose to for my benefit, and the benefit of others who I may be able to help. On that same idea, in general many times members are bad at keeping the subject lines related to the actual message content making it difficult to delete messages based on the subject.
The moderators have already done what you suggest. See http://www.dmcnews.com/techmain.htm
There are a number of topics that could be added to this list, and I am sure that in time it will grow. (Suggestion to Moderator- Add the oil drain answer, and the radio/vent removal answer)
In no way do I expect every new list member to sit and read hundreds of messages in the back issues to "catch up", but I do expect that the archives will be searched for answers to some basic questions before sending the question out to the large number of people on the list. This is what the archives are for, and it would be beneficial for everyone if it was utilized. As I said, in most cases you can get a answer more quickly from the archives.
I dont think we will run out of topics to talk about any time soon. The list traffic may decline and I think that is a good thing. As a example, I have seen many great sources of information leave the SHOtimes list (mailing list for the Taurus SHO) simply because the volume of mail was too much for them to manage. In those cases, the loss was more to the list than to the user that left. I have to think the same has happened this list as it has grown. Some time spent looking through the back issues have revealed this to me, and I also found my concern about this topic of list traffic back in 1996 when James had his "Call to Action".
In the case of this list, imagine if the traffic was reduced enough to allow Rob Grady, Don Steger, and others to participate. At this point participation in the list is just too time consuming for them. I would venture to say that this may have had some influence on why DMC Houston hired James. Currently DMC Joe participates in the list, but as his business grows he may find that he does not have the time to participate in the list any more. Obviously Joe is gaining some benefit now from his participation in the list but when that need is gone, will he be gone too? For HIS SAKE, I hope so- because that means that he has developed a strong business where he does not have time to participate.
With all that said, I am again guilty of creating list traffic that should be unnecessary! :)
GFesta5(AT)aol.com wrote: > > I am inclined to disagree with Marc about repeated topics. Alot of people > have not been on the list for that long and I think it is unfair to to > discourage topics that have already been covered just because you've seen it > all before, you don't have to read these postings as you said your self, you > can just delete them. I think a good idea would be for the moderators to pick > just the best reply for a question, then the answer is not repeated over and > over. Also if we never repeat topics eventually we will run out of topics to > talk about and the list will be no more, and I'm sure neither you nor anyone > else wants that to happen.
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: TTanaka504(AT)aol.com Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 11:51:34 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Radio fuse Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Dear List
I am who posted fuse problem. Thank you very much for advice.
I will try that this Sunday, Again Thank you all.
Takashi
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: DMCCHRIS(AT)aol.com Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 12:09:42 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] getting paint off Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi all, i know everybody went through the paint thing for deloreans, but i really need to know now. The paint on this delorean is red, and has already been tackled by the past owner to get it off. He said to get those parts off, it was very time consuming and hard. So i called some body shops in my area, and here's what i got: 1.soda blasting, this is pretty much the same thing as sandblasting, except they use baking soda. The guy said it would make the delorean have a new stainless look. 2. a place said they could somehow strip the paint off for around $500, and if there were any areas with bondo, he could replace those parts to. So this is what im wondering. Can i myself purchase anything to get this paint off and still make the car look good? I heard of something called DADS, which is a chemical you put on, then hoe off and the paint will come with it. Please, any information or help would be great. thanks.
chris
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 09:28:25 -0800 (PST) From: James Espey <jv_espey(AT)yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: 140mph speedo (was: Hell freezes over!) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
That may be misleading. It is a factory 85mph speedo that has been modified with Marty Maier's (wingd2(AT)aol.com) EXCELLENT reproduction of the factory 140mph speedo and recalibrated for the increased speed. I HIGHLY recommend that anyone considering replacing their speedo with a 160 or 170 mph speedo to consider Marty's fine product. The price is more than reasonable, the quality far and away better than any of the 160/170 speedo conversions I have seen ANYWHERE and it's a much more realistic example off the car's true capabilities.
Marty wrote an article about the speedo and installation procedures in the final edition of the 'zine that I published which can be downloaded from the DMC-News website at:
ftp://dmcnews.com/pub/zine003.pdf
James Espey Buy my car, please! http://www.usadmc.com/10570.html
At 6:45 PM -0500 11/5/99, Stian Birkeland wrote: >James - one question - you mention on the website sales ad that your >DeLorean has a "new 140mph speedometer installed". > >Has DMC Houston begun to produce such a speedo or are you referring to the >label kit another list member sold earlier? > (SNIP)
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 11:33:39 -0800 From: joe_dozzo(AT)msn.com Subject: [DML] Looking for some assistance in CO Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I've had my DeLorean engine all apart for inspection and cam/rocker replacement. I'm just not making any progress in the re-assembly and am looking for someone in the Denver Metro area to help with the re-assembly.
Open to options, my garage and tools / your garage / ?
My time frame is December - January...
If task is reassemble engine and put engine/auto trans back in car, please give me some idea of time and cost - joe_dozzo(AT)msn.com.
Thanks,
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 15:37:21 -0500 From: Josh Haldeman <haldeman.4(AT)osu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <19991105075605.LBKJ6862(AT)delorean> <006201bf27f4$8b9d7980$2f24480c(AT)gateway2000> Subject: [DML] Re: History Channel Documentary Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I read in DeLorean's autobiography that he got an excellent deal on the
Park Ave. offices. He said that the building was owned by Xerox and that they
gave him the space he occupied for less money per square foot, than a
comparable office in suburban Detroit. I can't recall the exact figure, but I
think it was some ridiculously low rate like $19 per square foot. Has this
story been disproved over the years, or have most people just not read his
autobiography?
Josh
VIN 5102
Dale Schaub wrote:
> The Park Avenue offices have nothing to do with his budget overruns. I run > an office and his Park Avenue office cost are extremely small when compared > to other expenses. Although I have not tried DeLorean's approach, I do not > see it as the reason he needed money.
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 15:16:42 -0700 (MST) Mime-Version: 1.0 From: raddad(AT)cmn.net Subject: [DML] 85 mph speedo Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
It was alluded that the reason for the 85 mph speedo had something to do with the limited HP and top speed of the DeLorean. That is not entirely correct.
The 85 mph speedo was the result of the gas crisis. Not only did the government lower the speed limit to 55 mph to conserve gas, they also strongly suggested (it may have even been a mandate) that new cars be fitted with 85 mph speedos to further discourage high speed driving.
Dick Ryan VIN 16867
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: DMC5524(AT)aol.com Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 17:29:03 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: eBay Delorean Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In a message dated 11/6/99 3:43:56 PM Central Standard Time, RappaRivaRat(AT)erols.com writes:
<< The DeLorean was never touted to be "one of the fastest production cars on the road". If it were, it would have never been fitted with the 85 MPH clock. >>
I hate to be picky but here in the States they didn't have a choice. Government regulations required the speedometer only read up to 85. However I do believe the Euro versions had the 140 speedo.
Dave
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Bobby D. Mims" <law(AT)ut-texas.com> Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 17:02:03 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Delorean For Sale Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0036_01BF2878.A5C682A0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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My 81 DeLorean can be seen at DeLorean Motor Company in Houston. It is an = automatic with black interior. Approximately 38,000 miles. DMC has done a= ll upgrades and service. Mechanically sound but needs some interior work. = My price delivered to you at Houston Texas is $17,900. I have all service= records and DMC's Steve Wynn knows the car very well. I hate to sell the = car but am liquidating all of my rolling stock to downsize my lifestyle.
Bobby Mims law(AT)ut-texas.com
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 18:32:11 -0500 From: "Jesse D. Sightler" <jsight(AT)mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <B448FBD0.34%darryl(AT)techline.com> Subject: [DML] Re: door panel removal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Thanks to all who responded. This was a great piece of advice, and worked perfectly.
Darryl Tinnerstet wrote: > > Forget what the manual says. Carefully remove the plastic escutcheon that > goes around the inner door release and door lock handles. Look down into > the door and you will see two bolts that hold the door pull bracket to the > door. Remove them - a magnetic socket is a big help, or some gum inside the > socket - and the door panel will come right off. You still have to > carefully pry out the plastic "fir tree" clips of course. >
-- --------------- Jesse D. Sightler http://www.biddin.com/delorean/
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 19:24:28 -0500 (EST) From: William T Wilson <fluffy(AT)snurgle.org> In-Reply-To: <38242B44.C271E834(AT)erols.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: eBay Delorean Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, Ann & Ed Thompson wrote:
> The DeLorean was never touted to be "one of the fastest production cars > on the road". If it were, it would have never been fitted with the 85 > MPH clock. Those that have ever owned/driven a DeLorean know better.
The 85 MPH speedometer was used because of the law, in effect from 1979 to 1983, that required the use of an 85 MPH speedometer no matter what the car's capabilities are. The original idea was for the car to have a 140 MPH speedometer, and I think a very few cars wound up with this from the factory.
> The test track at the factory was not nearly long enough to attempt to > achieve a speed anywhere near 130 MPH. As a matter of fact the track was
The test track wasn't intended for high speed use. It was intended to verify the suspension settings and general quality of the cars for use at normal speeds.
"Grand Delusions" (I think it's that book) says that the track was originally intended to be banked so that the car could be "driven" around the track by holding the steering wheel perfectly straight the entire time. But the construction company couldn't/wouldn't build the track with such steep banking, so it didn't work out that way.
> Extensive road tests conducted by "Road & Track" revealed a more > realistic top speed of 109 MPH in 4th gear at 5600 rpm and the same > top speed of 109 MPH in 5th gear
The car is definitely faster than that. I have a program called "Cartest" which computes top speed (plus 0-60 mph times and a variety of other performance information) and I believe it said that the "calculated" value based on the gearing, coefficient of drag, and power is 122 MPH. But the DeLorean has a small frontal area (not counted by this program) and I wouldn't be surprised if 130 MPH were possible.
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 16:40:11 -0800 From: jrobbins(AT)brit.ca In-Reply-To: <19991106044953.EIBA6862(AT)delorean> Subject: [DML] Re: tow truck anyone? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
"dmc joe" <dmcjo-(AT)att.net> wrote: original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=4382 > This is the very reason why we recommend that owners un plug their factory > lock modules.
I like the idea of power locks... so lockzilla, here I come.
J
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 16:48:40 -0800 From: jrobbins(AT)brit.ca In-Reply-To: <7vv87e$n4ol(AT)eGroups.com> Subject: [DML] Re: tow truck anyone? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> This reminds me...right before we bought our D the previous owner > agreed to drive down and meet us at our house. Well my dad and I > getting were rather PO'd because we had waiting for someting like an > hour and a half before he rolls up. We knew someting was wrong when he > stepped out of the car with a bloody hand and glass shards were all > over the passenger seat. Apparently the same thing that you experienced > happened to him at a gas station, the lock switch was in an > intermediate position and then engaged when he slammed the door. A > locksmith was working on the car for an hour and finally gave up, > acknowledging that it was time for "plan B" handing the owner a hamer. > Too bad because the gas station was only about 3 min from the house. At > least he didn't have to bust a full size window, thats got to be about > the only time those small ones have been good for anything.
I feel for him.
My spare key for my DMC was locked in my pinball machine. The key to the pinball machine was on the keychain in my locked Delorean. Chicken/Egg situation. I couldn't get to either key.
Luckily, though, the locksmith had the car open in under a minute without any damage. I was really lucky. Only a $60 mistake.
J
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 16:55:20 -0800 From: jrobbins(AT)brit.ca Subject: [DML] Help? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I have an idle problem. My car, when warm, idles at about 1700rpm.
DMC Joe has been very helpful so far in helping me debug the situation... but I realize he's very busy and can't reply to every email I send.
So I thought I'd try to get some help from the list.
Here are MY voltages from the ECU:
pin 3 (AT) 4.0v pin 4 (AT) 13.1v pin 5 (AT) 9.3v pin 9 (AT) 0.2v pin 12 (AT) 7.6v
DMC joe mailed the average voltages which should be around:
pin 3 (AT) 4.7v pin 4 (AT) 12v pin 5 (AT) 7.3v pin 9 (AT) 1.3v pin 12 (AT) 5.3v
I took the readings when my car was warm (after idling for an hour with my keys locked in the car) :>
Can anyone help?
Best regards,
J
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: tundra(AT)stratos.net Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 20:31:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <00ef01bf286c$2dbcf340$f1cac9cf(AT)com.mobis.com> Subject: [DML] Re: bellhousing question Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------40F37F939D7770734C099F65" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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Check out Four Wheel Drive Hardware in Ohio. They sell transmission adapters for Chevy engines.
http://www.4wd.com/online/index.html
Duke wrote:
> I am selling my engine out of my '81 DeLorean. We are starting the > engine swap next weekend and I no longer need the stock one. I just > had it rebuilt (upper engine from head gaskets up) and am asking $1000 > obo. Please email me directly for info. I am also wondering if anyone > who has installed a chevy engine could lend some help on a question. > I need to make a chevy bellhousing. Does anyone know where I could > get one or could anyone who has done a chevy conversion give me some > advice. This is the biggest problem I'm faced with. My car is, > unfortunately, an automatic. Thanks in advance, Duke > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: > www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator(AT)dmcnews.com > > eGroups.com Home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews > www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications
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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML> <BODY BGCOLOR="#FFFFFF"> Check out Four Wheel Drive Hardware in Ohio. <BR>They sell transmission adapters for Chevy engines. <P><A HREF="http://www.4wd.com/online/index.html">http://www.4wd.com/online/index.html</A> <BR> <P>Duke wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE><STYLE></STYLE> <FONT SIZE=-1>I am selling my engine out of my '81 DeLorean. We are starting the engine swap next weekend and I no longer need the stock one. I just had it rebuilt (upper engine from head gaskets up) and am asking $1000 obo. Please email me directly for info.</FONT> <FONT SIZE=-1>I am also wondering if anyone who has installed a chevy engine could lend some help on a question. I need to make a chevy bellhousing. Does anyone know where I could get one or could anyone who has done a chevy conversion give me some advice. This is the biggest problem I'm faced with. My car is, unfortunately, an automatic.</FONT> <FONT SIZE=-1>Thanks in advance,</FONT> <FONT SIZE=-1>Duke</FONT> <HR> <BR>Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: <BR>www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html <P>To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: <BR><A HREF="mailto:moderator(AT)dmcnews.com">moderator(AT)dmcnews.com</A> <P>eGroups.com Home: <A HREF="http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews">http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews</A> <BR><A HREF="http://www.egroups.com">www.egroups.com</A> - Simplifying group communications</BLOCKQUOTE>
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: JimmuC(AT)aol.com Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 20:43:08 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] DMC kit car? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
If any of you live in the Florida area then try to pick up a Custom, Antique and Sports Car Trader. In the DeLorean section it has a supposed "DeLorean Kit Car"!? Can this be true? I looked on www.autotrader.com but it is not on there for some reason.(I was looking for a picture, I have one in the magazine but it's B/W) Has there ever been a DeLorean kit car? Maybe the owner doesn't know what he has and it just looked like a D so he called it that. Here are the specs:
DeLorean Kit Car new Chevy V-6 engine new 4 speed mag wheels runs/looks good $2500 or trade
If anyone wants his phone number then just email me. -Jimmy
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 20:56:36 -0800 From: Jim <starbuck(AT)gate.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Cargo Net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I didn't think my car had the cargo net, but after pulling up the carpet I can see it.. Where does this net connect too?
I don't see any hooks for it to connect too?
Jim
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 21:02:02 -0800 From: Jim <starbuck(AT)gate.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] radiator hose Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I was looking under the passenger side front tire and I noticed that the small radiator hose on top is cracked and has a glazed look to it.. When I replace this is it going to add air in to the system? And will I have to bleed it out?? Also what size hose is this? (all the larger size hoses good in great shape)
Jim
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 99 21:36:48 -0500 From: Kelvin <mason_k(AT)wvwc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean Interior Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>If anyone has a picture of the inside of a DeLorean I would be most >generous. >Also, if you have a picture of the back, it would be great. If you have a >file of them, please send it to me. >John Feldman
The resource I use for reference images of the D is Michael Babb's web site at
http://babbtechnology.com/delorean/index.shtml
It has quite a few interior shots and one of the back end too. Just what you are looking for. Post more pictures Michael!! They're great!
Kelvin
__________________________
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <B448FBD0.34%darryl(AT)techline.com> References: <B448FBD0.34%darryl(AT)techline.com> Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 21:55:11 -0500 From: Peter Lucas <lucas(AT)maya.com> Subject: [DML] CV joint blues Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
My left outboard CV boot was torn, so I ordered the kit from PJ Grady and went at it. Since I had the shaft out, I decided to repack both joints. When I cleaned them up, the outboard joint (the one with the torn boot) was pristine, but I noticed that the balls from the inboard one had a bluish tint to them. No other sign of damage. My old, revered copy of the John Muhr Volkswagen repair book (from which I learned everything I know about auto repair) sez that this means the joint is not long for this world. Is this true? I put everything back together and there are no symptoms. The car has 30K miles.
So, should I:
A) Call Rob back right away? B) Make sure that my AAA card is up to date and keep driving? or C) Forget about it?
Also, there are suggestions in the archives that the joints are hard to find. Is this the case? Isn't there a cross for such a generic component?
--pete lucas VIN 6703 --pete
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Comet42483(AT)aol.com Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 21:23:06 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Windshield rearview spacer?? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
OHH yes it needs the pad or else the glass will break, The metal of the mirror doesn't expand at the same rate as the glass and the glass will crack if the pad is not there, it happened to ours and it was about a 1000$ to have it fixed, including labor Tjohnson #6974
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