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4413. raddad(AT)cmn.net            Re: DMC kit car?
4414. raddad(AT)cmn.net            Re: Windshield rearview spacer??
4415. raddad(AT)cmn.net            Re: bellhousing question
4416. DMC Joe                   Re: Air Filter Assembly
4417. rickaye(AT)webtv.net         Re: Engine for sale and bellhousing question
4418. Michael Babb              Re: DeLorean Interior AND Luggage Rack Stuff
4419. SweatyEddy                Re: getting paint off
4420. SweatyEddy                Re: 85 mph speedo
4421. jrobbins(AT)brit.ca          K&N
4422. DMC83in99(AT)aol.com         Re: DMC kit car?
4423. DMC83in99(AT)aol.com         Re: Cargo Net
4424. Ralf Philipp              Re: Radio wires
4425. Marc A Levy               Re: bellhousing question
4426. Duke                      Re: Engine for sale and bellhousing question
4427. Ian Foster                Crashed DMC Photos + Seat Covers?
4428. BRUCE BENSON              Re: Engine for sale and bellhousing question
4429. TJzHeRe27(AT)aol.com         Re: DMC kit car?
4430. drinkware(AT)lweb.net        speedometer 240KPH
4431. Kevin Rawlings            Yahoo
4432. Phil                      Re: DMC kit car?
4433. DeLorean31(AT)aol.com        Re: Unanswered DeLorean Questions
4434. Graham Wells              Misfire after cold start.
4435. PaulF52093(AT)aol.com        Re: Unanswered DeLorean Questions
4436. CBL302(AT)aol.com            Re: History Channel Documentory
4437. CBL302(AT)aol.com            Re: History Channel Documentary
4438. BondAtomic(AT)aol.com        DeLorean Leather/Transmission
4439. jrobbins(AT)brit.ca          idle speed motor
4440. Paul Gress                Re: eBay Delorean
4441. DMC Joe                   Re: K&N
4442. DMC Joe                   Re: History Channel Documentory
4443. DMC Joe                   Re: Misfire after cold start.
4444. Mike Atkinson             Turbo's
4445. Virginia Hodges           Re: dmcnews digest
4446. Marc A Levy               Re: Engine for sale and bellhousing question
4447. toscano2(AT)mindspring.com   Re: DMC "kit car"
4448. Robert Brandys            Re: Dyno Day
4449. Stian Birkeland           Re: History Channel Documentory/Epoxy covered Ste
4450. Danrc30                   Re: radiator hose
4451. Danrc30                   UNBELIEVABLE!!!
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This is interesting since last month's issue of Kit Car magazine had quite
an article on kit cars they would like to see in the "new Millennium".  One
of the cars high on their list is the DeLorean.
While  the car is question could be a home built, "one-off",  there has
never been a DeLorean Kit Car.
Dick Ryan
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>OHH yes it needs the pad or else the glass will break, The metal of the
>mirror doesn't expand at the same rate as the glass and the glass will crack
>if the pad is not there, it happened to ours and it was about a 1000$ to have
>it fixed, including labor
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I don't know what all you had done, but a new windshield is $397 from any
of the DeLorean Parts places.  With installation and reattaching the
mirror, the total should be less than $600, not $1000.  In fact, I just had
this done, along with regluing of the "a-pillar" vinyl and the bill was
still under $600, including all labor.
Dick Ryan
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I believe that Darryl Tinnerstat has put a Chevy v-8 in a DeLorean - -
supercharged, if memory serves me correctly.  He should be able to answer
questions on bell housings.
Dick Ryan
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Mike,
We have a couple of good used ones in stock, email us directly to discuss
price.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>
Web Site:  <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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From: Mike Atkinson <mikeatk(AT)concentric.net>
Just wanted to know if anyone has an extra cover or top part for the
airfilter assembly they would like to sell that is in good condition.  The
top part is all I need but would consider the whole assembly.  I'd like to
replace my old one with one that is in better shape.
Thanks
Mike Atkinson
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"duke" <at88mp-(AT)mobis.com> wrote: 
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> I am selling my engine out of my '81 DeLorean.  We are starting the
engine swap next weekend and I no longer need the stock one.  I just
had it rebuilt (upper engine from head gaskets up) and am asking $1000
obo.  Please email me directly for info.  
> 
> I am also wondering if anyone who has installed a chevy engine could
lend some help on a question.  I need to make a chevy bellhousing. 
Does anyone know where I could get one or could anyone who has done a
chevy conversion give me some advice.  This is the biggest problem I'm
faced with.  My car is, unfortunately, an automatic.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> 
> Duke
> 
> you might find some tec help from kit car magazine.  i know it isn't
a delorean but there have been many v8 engine swaps in the pontiac
feiro.  there are many v8 conversion kits for the fiero.  if they would
send you a
 copy of the tec specs, you might get some ideas there.  
officer rick

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Thanks for the plug Kelvin!  =
I intend to do just that.  I spent about 3 hours today installing a luggage=
 rack, and made a "Photo Documentary" of the process.  I will try to get th=
is on the site in the next few days.  I am also always open to requests  :)=
  If there is a part of the car that someone is interested in seeing, pleas=
e let me know and I will get the photo put on the site
Thanks!
Michael Babb
VIN 3472
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  From: Kelvin =
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The resource I use for reference images of the D is Michael Babb's web =
site at
http://babbtechnology.com/delorean/index.shtml
It has quite a few interior shots and one of the back end too. Just what =
you are looking for.
Post more pictures Michael!! They're great!
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It has quite a few interior shots and one of the back end too. Just what =
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Chris,
I used Jasco paint remover. Worked fine, took about a weekend of time
(including beer consumption), and cost about $20. You are taking a gamble
that there is no body work underneath or the price goes way up. I was
fortunate to have nothing wrong with mine.
-SweatyEddy
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> Hi all, i know everybody went through the paint thing for deloreans, but i
> really need to know now. The paint on this delorean is red, and has
already
> been tackled by the past owner to get it off. He said to get those parts
off,
> it was very time consuming and hard. So i called some body shops in my
area,
> and here's what i got: 1.soda blasting, this is pretty much the same thing
as
> sandblasting, except they use baking soda. The guy said it would make the
> delorean have a new stainless look. 2. a place said they could somehow
strip
> the paint off for around $500, and if there were any areas with bondo, he
> could replace those parts to. So this is what im wondering. Can i myself
> purchase anything to get this paint off and still make the car look good?
I
> heard of something called DADS, which is a chemical you put on, then hoe
off
> and the paint will come with it. Please, any information or help would be
> great. thanks.
>
> chris
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It was in fact mandated by the DOT not only to save gas but also to save
lives, supposidly if your speedometer could not reach 100mph there would not
be the desire to try to surpass it.
-SweatyEddy
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> It was alluded that the reason for the 85 mph speedo had something to do
> with the limited HP and top speed of the DeLorean.  That is not entirely
> correct.
>
> The 85 mph speedo was the result of the gas crisis.  Not only did the
> government lower the speed limit to 55 mph to conserve gas, they also
> strongly suggested (it may have even been a mandate) that new cars be
> fitted with 85 mph speedos to further discourage high speed driving.
>
> Dick Ryan
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Does anyone know the proper K&N air filter number for the DMC12?
It took me 2 days to find a replacement air filter for my DMC12, so I
don't really ever want to go through that again.  In my neck of the
woods (Canada), it is painful to find the original replacement air
filter.
Does the K&N replace the airbox altogether or does it simply replace
just the air filter?
Anyone have one?
Please reply here and to jrobbins(AT)brit.ca
Best regards,
J. Robbins


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I have heard rumors of these things for a while and actually tried to find 
one before when I didn't have the money to get a real one.  A friend of mine 
brought them up to me, and I didn't believe him.  I never did find one 
though, I don't know if they are fiberglass replicas like most kits or if 
these went for real metal. Nor am I sure what kind of frame they mounted them 
on.  I hope this thread goes for a bit, I'm really curious myself.
Scott
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Jim, 
There should be a set of hooks at the very top of the cargo space, right 
below the windshield behind the lip of the shelf.  I'm not real sure how it 
connects below, but I'm sure it's something similar, right under the front 
lip, under the carpet.
Scott
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> Does anyone out there know the color codes of the wires that plug into the
> Craig radio. I am replacing it with a Kenwood and knowing which wire goes
> where would save me a lot of time.
>
> Robert Starling
> Vin#5252
Robert!
I can give you the colors of the wiring in MY car, but I cannot guarantee
that the wiring of YOUR car is identical. I know of one guy whose wiring was
different, but we assumed that his pre-owner messed around with the wires.
If you haven't already done it, take a look at chapter M:18:17 of the
workshop manual to see how the speakers are connected:
You can see that the ground connections of the two righthand speakers are
combined and the same with the two lefthand speakers.
These 6 speaker lines, the +12V-line, the ignition-switched +12V-line and
the GND line are connected to one connector with 9 pins. That means, in the
CAR, you have a connector with 9 pins, and at the RADIO you should have the
counterpart, which fits into the CAR-connector.
Wire-colors of my GRAIG-RADIO, MODEL No. W460 (built-in clock, 6
station-preset buttons):
Power supply:
+12V (continuous)    red
+12V (switched)       orange
GND                              black
Speakers:
front, LH speaker  (+)    green
rear, LH speaker  (+)    brown
ground-line for those two speakers: purple
front, RH speaker (+)   grey
rear, RH speaker (+)   white
ground-line for those two speakers: blue
There is another wire coming from the radio, a pink one with a single, round
"cable-shoe". It's the control line for the electric antenna.
The (original) wire colors IN THE CAR are:
purple for the +12V (continuous), fused with 5A cable-fuse
green/white for the +12V (switched), fused with 5A cable-fuse
black for the supply-GND
black for the two speaker-ground- lines
black/white for the (+) speaker lines


Ralf.
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Call Don at Delorean Motor Center, He sells them.
Please contact me directly, I'd like to keep up to date on your
conversion progress because I am considering one myself.
> Duke wrote:
> I am also wondering if anyone who has installed a chevy engine could
> lend some help on a question.  I need to make a chevy bellhousing.
> Does anyone know where I could get one or could anyone who has done a
> chevy conversion give me some advice.  This is the biggest problem I'm
> faced with.  My car is, unfortunately, an automatic.
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Thanks to everyone for all the information!  I'll give everyone some more
info on my project.  I am using  a Vortech V6.  Originally about 1 1/2 years
ago, I wanted to go with a TPI 350 (L98) but that would have been extremely
hard with the stock transmission being rated at only 250 hp and also weight
distribution.  I don't know of any other transmission that I could go with
so I've decided to stick with the stock one (which is an automatic)  The
Vortech seems to be almost the same size as the Volvo, but another problem I
am facing, other than the belhousing, is the oil pan on the Vortech.  Other
than that, I think the Vortech is quite a good engine of choice.  It's rated
at 220 hp, it's very dependable, and its a Chevy engine so I can go to any
parts house or mechanic to have it worked on.  I don't know of anyone that
has done an engine swap with a automatic going to a chevy engine.  I've
talked with Daryl Tennerset quite a few times and he is a great source of
information, however, his D is a 5 speed.  If anyone that has an auto and
has done a chevy conversion could please contact me I would greatly
appreciate it.  I already have started on taking out the engine again and
will, hopefully, be looking at finding a way to mount the engine to the
transmission and frame next weekend.
Once again, thanks to everyone who replied to my emails!,
Duke
> Doesn't the automatic transmission have an integral bellhousing with
> torque converter?
>
> You will have to make an adapter plate to fit it to the Chevy engine.
> There are a number of shops that specialize in this sort of thing, I will
> see if I can find you some of the information for it.
>
> Are you using a regular smallblock Chevy V8, or are you using a V6?  If
> you use the V8 and tune it for power, keep in mind that the DeLorean
> automatic transmission can't really stand up to it.  I think it's only
> good for about 250HP at the maximum.
>

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Someone asked a couple of months ago for photos of crashed DeLoreans. I've =
just found jpegs of a D I bought for spares which had a bad frontal smash. =
Cock-pit, windscreen, etc. remained intact ... but front & right side was w=
iped out! Whoever wanted this info. let me know and I'll forward it.
Seat Covers?
Ahh ... had no response to my query last week!!! Does anyone have any recom=
mendations for seat covers in the USA? My DeLorean is now on a ship on its =
way to GB. Will have it to play with back in N.Ireland during my Christmas =
vacation. =
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  I need to make a chevy bellhousing.  Does anyone know where I could get o=
ne or could anyone who has done a chevy conversion give me some advice.  =
  Duke
  Don Steger at the DeLorean Motor Center in Garden Grove, Ca used to sell =
a bellhousing for the DeLorean 5 spd to a Chevy V-8. Perhaps he still does.
  Bruce Benson
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I have to step in and speak on this point guys. I have been in the market 
recently for a Lamborghini Diablo kit car. I have sent away for video's/spec 
sheets from all the major kit car producers listed in Kit Car Monthly (The 
big monthly magazine puported to be the authority on the subject). In all my 
research I have discovered that the primary reason people build kits or buy 
them alreadybuilt (called "turnkey" kits) is to own a vehicle which they 
could never actually afford in their lifetime.
    Most people, dare I say 99.9% of all people, will never drive, own or in 
some cases even see a car like a Lamborghini. This is of course due to the 
price tag which can approach over a quarter of a million dollars for newer 
models. The DeLorean however was designed to be an affordable sports car and 
in fact still is! The point is this- why build a kit car Delorean when for 
the same price you can have a real one???
    I do not know what it would cost if a DeLorean kit car was to be 
produced. I never heard mention of one in all my research. However, I can 
tell you from looking into a Lamborghini Kit car, that the costs are not all 
that cheap...unless you compare the cost to a real Lamborghini.
    First of all, you need a doner car...typically a Fierro. You need an 
engine. You need the kit ($5,000.00-$10,000.00). Then you need the labor and 
parts, including interior. The Turnkey cars I saw were on average $25,000.00- 
$40,000.00. I firmly believe that a DeLorean kit car would require no less 
work or materials and would cost the same. I mean, if  a "mint" DeLorean runs 
between $20,000.00 - $25,000.00, who would spend this amount or more on a kit 
car. You could own the real thing!!!! I couldn't see building a kit for less 
then $20,000.00- even if you do the work yourself!
    Keep the dream alive and keep it real!
Todd J. Zimmer
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THE EUROPEAN AND CANADIAN SPEEDOMETER SHOWS 240 KILOMETERS PER HOUR /
140 MILES PER HOUR. I HAD TO GO OUTSIDE AND LOOK AT MINE. 
HOW COULD ANY CAR MFGR BUILD A SLEEK MACHINE LIKE THIS AND ONLY SHOW
85MPH?
MARVIN

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I am running out of ideas on how to get Yahoo! to list my site.  I have 
submitted it twice now, the first time about 6 months ago, they have yet to 
list it.  If anyone has some advice, please let me know.
The site address is http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Factory/9755/
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I heard that Lotus made 18 fiberglass painted DeLoreans, here's a link to
the image.
http://www.deloreans.com/deloreans/img_21.jpg (Read the bottom note!)
-Phil
philf(AT)ssesco.com
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> I have heard rumors of these things for a while and actually tried to find
> one before when I didn't have the money to get a real one.  A friend of
mine
> brought them up to me, and I didn't believe him.  I never did find one
> though, I don't know if they are fiberglass replicas like most kits or if
> these went for real metal. Nor am I sure what kind of frame they mounted
them
> on.  I hope this thread goes for a bit, I'm really curious myself.
>
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  I think Marc has done a very good job at analyzing certain issues here.  
One of the main guidelines of the list refers to the point that someone 
should try a quick search of the archives before posting a question.  Basic 
questions have been answered repeatedly.  If you can't find the answer in the 
archives after a quick check, then by all means post your question.  I think 
it is clear however that recent posts about the common items mentioned, show 
that the archives were not used by these members.  If the moderators wish the 
practice of searching first to be changed than amend the guidelines.  
  I have noticed that other previous DML "do-nots" seem to have been changed 
as well.  Commercial posting seems to have taken on a new format for 
instance.  However tech questions being answered are something I find 
valuable here on the list.  Wording them in a way to simply sell a part or 
promote a business is another thing.  As stated, Don Steger and Rob Grady are 
presumably to busy to have time to monitor, or designate an employee, to 
monitor the list.  I know that in the past when one of the employee's from 
one of these places responded to a repeated post from someone asking for a 
certain item, they in turn responded that they simply had that item in stock 
if the person had difficulty finding it.  The post was rejected under the 
guideline that commercial posting was not allowed and that was not what the 
DML was for.  Perhaps that is why other DeLorean oriented places such as 
DeLorean Motor Center, PJ Grady's and others, do not take time to become 
involved with the DML.  Or perhaps they have established such a productive 
business, or well respected reputation, that they do not need to solicit 
business.  In any there are obvious benefits for anyone involved in the sale 
or service of parts and accessories to be involved in the DML.  
  I think DMC Joe for example does a good job of responding to questions on 
the DML.  Also his responses always list other parts suppliers and service 
centers as sources of DeLorean parts and service.  Obviously any company in 
any walk of life that gained a monopoly on a supply of items or service for 
consumers, would enable them to charge whatever they wanted for these items 
or service.  This is the main reason I believe it is important to support all 
our DeLorean suppliers and centers.  As Joe always states "promote your 
DeLorean parts suppliers" instead of buying from other sources.  This helps 
keep all the places that that provide excellent service and supply for our 
cars in business which in turn "Keeps the dream alive" and within reach for 
us all. 
Gary Gore
Activities Director
DeLorean Mid Atlantic
In a message dated 11/6/99 4:44:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
malevy(AT)dnrc.bell-labs.com writes:
<< In the case of this list, imagine if the traffic was reduced enough to
 allow Rob Grady, Don Steger, and others to participate.  At this point
 participation in the list is just too time consuming for them.  I would
 venture to say that this may have had some influence on why DMC Houston
 hired James.   
 Currently DMC Joe participates in the list, but as his business grows he
 may find that he does not have the time to participate in the list any
 more.  Obviously Joe is gaining some benefit now from his participation
 in the list but when that need is gone, will he be gone too?  For HIS
 SAKE, I hope so- because that means that he has developed a strong
 business where he does not have time to participate. >>
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Apart from one occasion when there was a real reluctance to start when cold=
, starting has mostly been OK. However, until the engine has run for 2 or 3=
 minutes, there is a misfire problem on any load or acceleration which seem=
s to me, as a novice to fuel injection, to be   similar to over use of the =
choke on a carburettor based engine. I feel sure it is an excess of  fuel c=
ausing the problem, but it does appear to go away after a few minutes. I ha=
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I think the central purpose of the DML list is (or should be) to provide 
information of use to DeLorean owners and those interested in the marque.  
Yes, there may be times when a poster may have an interest in one or another 
parts or service supplier.  But is it not better to get whatever info is 
available to as many "members" as possible?  I think the usefulness of the 
data supplied should dictate whether it is posted, not whether it happens to 
be a "commercial" in disguise.  I'd a lot rather have businesspeople who 
trade in DeLoran parts and services telling me stuff than NOT having access 
to what may well be the most valuable source of information.  I'll be happy 
to see others' reactions to this idea!
Paul Feine
#10944
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In a message dated 11/5/99 8:59:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
RappaRivaRat(AT)erols.com writes:
<< Lotus did not "copy" the Esprit.  Lotus had nothing to do with the design
 of the DeLorean, at lea >>
I never said the design but the engineering aspects,they dumped the ERM 
process for they frame engineering,then applied the engineering from the 
Lotus,which in retrospect was not worth the problems that lotus created for 
the Delorean frame(a frame of the thickness of a dime)with epoxy coating,that 
when cracked would trap water and moisture and cause the thin frame to rustup 
at a alarming rate.
Claude
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In a message dated 11/5/99 10:46:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
DaleSchaub(AT)worldnet.att.net writes:
<< The Park Avenue offices have nothing to do with his budget overruns. I run
 an office and his Park Avenue office cost are extremely small when compared
 to other expenses. Although I have not tried DeLorean's approach, I do not
 see it as the reason he needed money. >>
Apparently you do not understand about Park Ave New York,It is/was THE most 
expensive place at the time to have a office,it was not unheard of, to pay 
upwards of $100,000 or more per month in 1981 dollars appox.($400,000 in 
todays dollars)per month for a office on Park Ave ridiculous for a startup 
company.There were less expensive areas that would have impressed his 
clients,than throw good money at
Park ave,again the downfall of DMC was NOT the car but the man himself for 
foolish spending,and not sticking to his original plans to make the car as 
originally planned.
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Dear Members,
Over the years, I have only heard of "black leather, automatic transmission" 
DeLoreans and of "grey leather, manual transmission" DeLoreans. Did they ever 
produce black leather, manual transmission DeLoreans or grey leather, 
automatic transmission DeLoreans? I have been wondering that for years, and 
finally remembered to ask...Thanks!
John Feldman
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DMC Joe has told me that I require a new idle speed motor.
Does anyone have one for sale?  Would that be something I could get
from PJ Grady's?
Cost?
Best regards,
J. Robbins


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The coefficient of drag (CDx) is the wind resistance times the frontal area.
So if this program used CDx, it did include the frontal area.
Paul Gress
William T Wilson wrote:
>
>
> The car is definitely faster than that.  I have a program called "Cartest"
> which computes top speed (plus 0-60 mph times and a variety of other
> performance information) and I believe it said that the "calculated" value
> based on the gearing, coefficient of drag, and power is 122 MPH.  But the
> DeLorean has a small frontal area (not counted by this program) and I
> wouldn't be surprised if 130 MPH were possible.
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I don't have the K&N number but I can tell you that all you need to do is
ask for an air filter for a 1980 to 86 Volvo 260 or 760 GLE 6 cylinder.
This is
the exact replacement for the DeLorean filter and is available from most
filter manufactures.
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> From: jrobbins(AT)brit.ca
> 
> Does anyone know the proper K&N air filter number for the DMC12?
> 
> It took me 2 days to find a replacement air filter for my DMC12, so I
> don't really ever want to go through that again.  In my neck of the
> woods (Canada), it is painful to find the original replacement air
> filter.
> 
> Does the K&N replace the airbox altogether or does it simply replace
> just the air filter?
> 
> Anyone have one?
> 
> Please reply here and to jrobbins(AT)brit.ca
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> J. Robbins

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You make it sound as if the engineers knew that the epoxy would crack. At
the time of design the epoxy coating was an excellent idea. It was
discovered,  well after the cars were out of production, that under certain
conditions there was a problem with the epoxy.
 
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> From: CBL302(AT)aol.com
> 
> In a message dated 11/5/99 8:59:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
> RappaRivaRat(AT)erols.com writes:
> 
> << Lotus did not "copy" the Esprit.  Lotus had nothing to do with the
design
>  of the DeLorean, at lea >>
> I never said the design but the engineering aspects,they dumped the ERM 
> process for they frame engineering,then applied the engineering from the 
> Lotus,which in retrospect was not worth the problems that lotus created
for 
> the Delorean frame(a frame of the thickness of a dime)with epoxy
coating,that 
> when cracked would trap water and moisture and cause the thin frame to
rustup 
> at a alarming rate.
> 
> Claude
> 000570

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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 03:01:25 -0500
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Check to be sure that the electrical and vacuum hose connections at the
warm up regulator are correct and working.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>
Web Site:  <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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From: Graham Wells <gwells(AT)totalise.co.uk>
Apart from one occasion when there was a real reluctance to start when
cold, starting has mostly been OK. However, until the engine has run for 2
or 3 minutes, there is a misfire problem on any load or acceleration which
seems to me, as a novice to fuel injection, to be   similar to over use of
the choke on a carburettor based engine. I feel sure it is an excess of 
fuel causing the problem, but it does appear to go away after a few
minutes. I have checked the cold start injector which does not appear to be
leaking excess fuel into the system. Does anyone have any other ideas?

Graham        gwells(AT)totalise.co.uk
VIN 17152


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I'm just curious if anyone has ever tried to install a turbo system from an=
y of the newer or established companys around that advertise do it yourself=
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resting.  http://www.turbocity.com/Index.html
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I have finally decided to sell my '83 delorean. It is in excellent 
condition and has 50,000 miles on it. The body is in perfect condition and 
the louvres are covered with stainless steel. I have all the books and a 
DMC car cover. I am asking $25,000. The reason I'm selling it is because I 
am driving it less and less and I can't just let the car sit in the garage. 
Please respond to virginia(AT)oldlineplastics.com or wahoo1970(AT)yahoo.com. I am 
located in Baltimore, MD. You may also call me at 410-685-8214. Thanks.
Virginia Hodges



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Contact "Dr Bob", of the 1997 BTTF Delorean.  He used a Porsche
automatic trans in his conversion.  If you want to keep your DMC
automatic, and add some more power- this may be a good choice.
In my case, I want to stay with the 5spd if I ever do actually do a
conversion!
Duke wrote:
> <SNIP>
> distribution.  I don't know of any other transmission that I could go with
> so I've decided to stick with the stock one (which is an automatic)  The
<SNIP>
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Hello,
	I spotted the same article and it got me thinking.
I contacted a few friends who are heavily into the entire
"RepliCar" thing (not really a kit if you consider...)
and I am just beginning to work with a gentleman named Paul 
from Code One Auto on a DMC RepliCar.  It would use my '81
as a model, probably a Fiero donor chassis (1986 SE V6 for
now), and may end up with silver fiberglass body panels 
"hung" like the original on an inner unibody.
	It is already very complicated and we are only at the
discussion stage; I promise to keep everyone updated as it
progresses.  
	I did not know there would be any interest in this...
	Regards,
	D. Toscano

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Dyno day was a huge success.  We learned a ton of information about
upgrading DeLorean performance.  All of this will appear in a future
article for the various DeLorean magazines.
Here's the initial conclusions.
1. The Delorean ignition system needs upgrading.  
2. A K&N air cleaner gives extra HP
3. A supercharge D give better performance up to 65 mph.
4. A turbo charged D is better after 65 mph. 
5. A 40 to 50% increase is horspower at the wheels is achievable.
6. A V-8 gives more horsepower and torque at all driving speeds.However,
the cost of a V-8 verse the supercharger or turbo setup is at least
twice as much.
Dr.Bob
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From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway(AT)hotmail.com>
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Regarding the steel frame - According to Mr. Mike Loasby, former director of 
engineering at DMC Ltd., the company had intended to use a stainless steel 
frame, but abandoned it because of fear of lawsuits. The reason: The 
stainless steel frame is not so good in crash resistance, that is, if you 
crash during winter time.
I don't think the stainless steel frame is dangerous should you crash in the 
summer time. I think it has the same quality (read: better) quality than the 
epoxy-covered frame.
Bryan Pearce sells a new stainless steel frame which looks great. He has 
even re-designed some parts of it to make it better.
QUESTION: Has any member on the DML bought a stainless steel frame? I think 
they sell at about $8000,-
Website: www.pearce-design.com
Best wishes
Stian Birkeland
NORWAY

>I never said the design but the engineering aspects,they dumped the ERM
>process for they frame engineering,then applied the engineering from the
>Lotus,which in retrospect was not worth the problems that lotus created for
>the Delorean frame(a frame of the thickness of a dime)with epoxy 
>coating,that
>when cracked would trap water and moisture and cause the thin frame to 
>rustup
>at a alarming rate.
>
>Claude
>000570
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I think you are referring to the small top hose attatched to the radiator.
If so, and you have the original radiator, be very careful when removing it.
The original radiators tend to crack easily; which might also be your
problem. If the radiator has not been changed since the car was new, I
suggest replacing it. I got the updated brass radiator from PJ Grady, and it
works great!
Anytime you remove a hose from a presurized coolant system, it's my belief
that you must bleed the system.
Hope this helps.
---Dan
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>     I was looking under the passenger side front tire and I noticed that
> the small radiator hose on top is cracked and has a glazed look to it..
> When  I replace this is it going to add air in to the system? And will I
> have to bleed it out??  Also what size hose is this?  (all the larger
> size hoses good in great shape)
>
> Jim
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I took my D through inspection last week (NJ). I got the usual stares and q=
uestions, but for once, I didn't get a "flux capacitor" comment!!! I was so=
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