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----------------------------------------------------------------- 4621. DMC Joe Re: History Channel Documentory 4622. IVe099(AT)aol.com Re: History Channel Documentory 4623. DMC Joe Re: Coolant overflow 4624. DTrue10521(AT)aol.com Re: "normal" brake feel 4625. raddad(AT)cmn.net Re: Coolant overflow 4626. TJzHeRe27(AT)aol.com Re: dmc northstar conversion 4627. Dirk Wacker Re: Heat Shield 4628. Mike Cutting vin #s 4629. Watkins Family Death of a Delorean???????? 4630. Ann & Ed Thompson Re: Coolant overflow 4631. Stian Birkeland Re: vin #s 4632. Richard Cutter Re: dmc northstar conversion 4633. Richard Petrie Re: dmc northstar conversion 4634. Martin Gutkowski Re: dmc northstar conversion 4635. Richard Strecker Re: Heat shield / Fuel Pump - Radiator 4636. Michael Babb Luggage Rack - Ski Rack 4637. Martin Gutkowski Re: dmc northstar conversion 4638. BRUCE BENSON Re: Death of a Delorean???????? 4639. Dylan Yellow Delorean 4640. Delorean17(AT)aol.com Removing door and quarter panel 4641. Richard Cutter Re: dmc northstar conversion 4642. DMC Joe Re: Coolant overflow 4643. Arnie Brandon Re: Luggage Rack - Ski Rack 4644. Iznodmad(AT)aol.com Re: vin #s 4645. chris Re: Yellow Delorean 4646. luke.sandel(AT)cmich.edu Re: Removing door and quarter panel 4647. James Espey Re: vin #s 4648. James Espey Mr. March 2000 4649. Josh Haldeman Re: Heat shield / Fuel Pump - Radiator 4650. UNCLEUMP(AT)aol.com Re: DMC (Houston) in England Nov 6-7 4651. Marc A Levy Re: DOD and DeLorean production chronology analys 4652. Sean Jones Re: dmc northstar conversion 4653. Mike03062(AT)aol.com Re: Mr. March 2000 4654. Richard Cutter Re: Coolant overflow 4655. Marc A Levy Re: dmc northstar conversion 4656. James Espey Re: Mr. March 2000 4657. Michael Babb Legend Industries Twin-Turbo 4658. Michael Babb Re: Mr. March 2000 4659. CBL302(AT)aol.com Re: Yellow Delorean 4660. Jesse D. Sightler Re: Mr. March 2000 4661. KELGIL1(AT)aol.com 1981 Delorean For Sale 4662. Darryl Tinnerstet Re: heat shields 4663. Darryl Tinnerstet pictures in the vault 4664. CBL302(AT)aol.com Re: Removing door and quarter panel 4665. DMC Joe Re: Removing door and quarter panel 4666. Richard Cutter Re: dmc northstar conversion 4667. Goin88mph(AT)aol.com Re: Mr. March 2000 -----------------------------------------------------------------
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)att.net> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 03:52:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: History Channel Documentory Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Claude, Yes, there is some truth that the stainless frame was not used due to subfreezing fracturing. The real reason that the stainless frame was dropped was due to cost. The DeLorean was already priced considerably higher than anticipated. The stainless frame would have elevated the price even higher.
You mentioned that Lotus should have run extensive testing on the epoxy coating. Unfortunately, when you are under pressure to design, manufacture, and deliver a brand new car from the ground up that luxury is just not possible. In defense of the epoxy coated frames, most of the cars we service here in the south have frames that are still in excellent condition. Imagine what the uncoated frames would have looked like after 18 years of exposure to the elements.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: CBL302(AT)aol.com > To: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com > Subject: [DML] Re: History Channel Documentory > Date: Saturday, November 13, 1999 10:37 PM > > In a message dated 11/8/99 10:32:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, DMCJOE(AT)att.net > writes: > > << you make it sound as if the engineers knew that the epoxy would crack. At > the time of design the epoxy coating was an excellent idea. >> > Sorry,if it sounds that way,but Lotus Should have run extensive tests on that > process before it was used on our Deloreans,after all JZD already knew the > reason why he did not want to use a Stainless Steel frame was,because of > possible frame cracking at certain sub-zero temperatures so at the last > moment he decided to go with the epoxy coated frames instead,Who knows maybe > the DMC2,may be created as originally planned.(If it is ever created). > > Claude > 000570 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: > www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator(AT)dmcnews.com > > eGroups.com Home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/ > http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications >
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: IVe099(AT)aol.com Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 02:39:14 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: History Channel Documentory Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
does anyone know when the delorean history channel documentary is on again?
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)att.net> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 03:44:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Coolant overflow Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Incorrect,
There is a difference between a header bottle and overflow bottle. A header bottle is used in cooling systems where coolant is added to the system through the bottle. Cooling systems that are filled at the radiator use an overflow bottle. The DeLorean is equipped with a header bottle.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: BurkePhoto(AT)aol.com > > << Chip, > Your car is just like all the others. The Delorean does not have an > overflow container. A small bit of trivia : Guess who owns the patent > rights to the coolant overflow container ? JZD himself ! >> > > This is totally incorrect. Deloreans do, or are supposed to have, overflow > containers. The original was plastic and was prone to cracking, probably the > reason some Deloreans are sans container. The correct solution is to replace > the original plastic container with after market containers fabricated from > stainless steel. > > Burke > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: > www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator(AT)dmcnews.com > > > eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews > http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications > > >
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: DTrue10521(AT)aol.com Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 07:03:27 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: "normal" brake feel Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In a message dated 11/9/99 1:04:28 AM US Eastern Standard Time, DMC83in99(AT)aol.com writes:
<< the booster rod no more than 1 >> I rebuilt my brake calipers 2 years ago with rebuild kits from NAPA parts. It took quite a bit of WD-40 juice to get the old pistons out.
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 07:47:27 -0700 (MST) Mime-Version: 1.0 From: raddad(AT)cmn.net Subject: [DML] Re: Coolant overflow Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Both WIngD2 and Burke are correct - -it's semantics.
Of course the D has a coolant reservoir, and it is exactly as Burke described it. However, when the car overheats, or if you fill the reservoir too full, their is no "overflow" bottle to catch the heated coolant - - it just goes on the ground. WingD2 (Marty) knows this very well because he constructed a very neat overflow reservoir for his D.
Dick Ryan VIN 16867
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: TJzHeRe27(AT)aol.com Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 09:58:23 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: dmc northstar conversion Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I checked out the web site and it looks promising! A 300 horsepower DeLorean could really be a lot of fun. Quick question from you DeLorean gurus out there...why would this shop ONLY convert manual, not automatic vehicles? Any guesses?
If I remember, isn't the guy who drove this DeLorean to St. Louis and other places on this list? If so, how is this vehicle insured...as a regular DeLorean or a V-8 powered sports car?
Todd Z.
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 15:58:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: bettycat(AT)t-online.de (Dirk Wacker) Subject: [DML] Re: Heat Shield Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This is only half the truth. SS304 stainless steel is of course the = wrong material. It will not cause a radiator effect but the protection = will be insufficient and not so good as from the original heat shield = made from asbestos. We use a special treated steel, originally developed for space-research. = The heat protection is excellent and the shield will last forever.
Hope this helps
Dirk Wacker DeLorean Steel Products, Germany
Stainless didn=B4t work as a "Heat shield", it rather works in the wrong = way as a "radiator".
Deloreanernst(AT)aol.com schrieb:
> "www.de-lorean-steel-products.purespace.de" (in Germany) makes them = out of > stainless, I believe. > - Wayne
-- Regards
Michael Reinemuth ------------------------------------------------------- eMail: micha(AT)delorean.de - Heidelberg, Germany http://www.delorean.de - DeLorean Site Deutschland -------------------------------------------------------
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Mike Cutting" <mcutting(AT)ntl.sympatico.ca> References: <199911141143.GAA17214(AT)ns1.nt.net> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 11:27:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] vin #s Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
greetings...
i have an '82... the vin is 11434. i don't think that the vin #s were completely in sequence. there were big gaps in the #s... i don't know why, but it seems that this is the case.. anyone know why??
:) mike cutting 11434
>According to the DOA's 8583, there were 6539 1981 models, 1126 1982 >models >and 918 1983 models. > >Now, since the 1982 models start on VIN 10000 the last VIN for the 1982 >DeLoreans would have been 11126!!!
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 11:46:38 -0500 From: Watkins Family <watbmv(AT)megalink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Death of a Delorean???????? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
All,
Perhaps it just me, but I think out of repsect for the family of Mr. Lang that posting pictures of the car he was killed in is in rather poor taste. I know we are all interested in "crash worthiness" of our cars, but the fact is he didn't live through this terrible accident. I think it's rather morbid and unrespectful. There's the curiosity factor here, I understand that, but I know if it where my child killed in this accident I would be mad as hell for someone snapping pictures of the car and posting it.
Also. *please* lets not get into debates about the physics of 2 cars hitting each other at what speed........
Tom Watkins #5732
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 11:52:29 -0500 From: Ann & Ed Thompson <RappaRivaRat(AT)erols.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0.8a262b30.255f8e33(AT)aol.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Coolant overflow Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> BurkePhoto(AT)aol.com wrote: > > This is totally incorrect. Deloreans do, or are supposed to have, overflow > containers. The original was plastic and was prone to cracking, probably the > reason some Deloreans are sans container.
Not "totally incorrect" Burke.
Technically, the DeLorean does not have an "overflow container" but rather a "header bottle assembly", part #101944. Typically an overflow container is not part of a pressurized system. The container you refer to is an integral component of the DeLoren's pressurized system and, by design, works as an expansion chamber for the system, thus eliminating the need for a conventional overflow container. The system was designed so there would be no "overflow".
Without the header bottle assembly the DeLorean cooling system cannot work properly as designed.
BTW, if you were to fill the header bottle completely full, there would be some "overflow" through the "overflow" hose (technically called the air bleed connection hose, part #100502) to the road, outside of the closed system. Eventually the expansion will force out enough excess solution fluid so that there will be enough room in the header bottle to accommodate solution expansion without further overflow.
Regards, Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982) Midlothian, VA
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway(AT)hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 09:03:38 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: vin #s Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello, I think that the VINs came in sequence at least for the 1981 models VIN 560-7199. This is evidenced by a DMC Service Bulletin. The 1982 models start on VIN 10000. Now, I strongly believe that there is none skip in the 10000 series VIN. The series continues with 11000 series up to around VIN 11700/11800.
Then there is a gap. There are strong indications that VIN 15000 and 16000 series came in sequence. The only series that I think has skips in it are the 17000 series which were a special-built series for Canada with 140MPH speedos, and I believe some metric clusters too! Celsius instead of Fahrenheit, Kilometres instead of Miles, etc.
Best wishes Stian Birkeland NORWAY
>From: "Mike Cutting" <mcutting(AT)ntl.sympatico.ca> >Reply-To: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com >To: <dmcnews(AT)egroups.com> >Subject: [DML] vin #s >Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 11:27:08 -0500 > >greetings... > >i have an '82... the vin is 11434. i don't think that the vin #s were >completely in sequence. there were big gaps in the #s... i don't know >why, >but it seems that this is the case.. anyone know why?? > >:) >mike cutting >11434 > > >According to the DOA's 8583, there were 6539 1981 models, 1126 1982 > >models > >and 918 1983 models. > > > >Now, since the 1982 models start on VIN 10000 the last VIN for the 1982 > >DeLoreans would have been 11126!!! > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: >www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > >To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: >moderator(AT)dmcnews.com > > >eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews >http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications > > > > >
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Richard Cutter" <dmc_power(AT)hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 17:12:22 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: dmc northstar conversion Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Greetings...
We are not doing the automatic at this time becouse of three things... 1 -The automatic is not an overdrive unit with proper gearing for this engine... Too high RPM at highway speeds.... 2 - It does not have a lockup torque converter. Heat generation can be a major problem... 3 - The automatic will not last long with this HP and torque..
Yes we had it at St. Lewis last month... Total of 5035 miles in two weeks...
Rich Cutter
# 5467
www.americancustomeng.com/dmc_powe.htm
>From: TJzHeRe27(AT)aol.com >Reply-To: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com >To: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com >Subject: [DML] Re: dmc northstar conversion >Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 09:58:23 EST > > I checked out the web site and it looks promising! A 300 horsepower >DeLorean could really be a lot of fun. Quick question from you DeLorean >gurus >out there...why would this shop ONLY convert manual, not automatic >vehicles? >Any guesses? > > If I remember, isn't the guy who drove this DeLorean to St. Louis and >other places on this list? If so, how is this vehicle insured...as a >regular >DeLorean or a V-8 powered sports car? > > Todd Z. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: >www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > >To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: >moderator(AT)dmcnews.com > >-- Easily schedule meetings and events using the group calendar! >-- http://www.egroups.com/cal?listname=dmcnews&m=1 > >
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Richard Petrie" <juffo7(AT)hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 12:44:26 CST Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: dmc northstar conversion Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello everyone!
I'm curious with the whole Northstar conversion scenario, is it advisable? Meaning, was the Delorean chassis designed to handle that kind of power/torque? I've heard nightmare stories of similar converstions, and just wanted some feedback as to the safety involved ;)
Cheers!
Richard
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 19:19:53 +0000 From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster(AT)delorean.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0.b1a5bcfa.2560280f(AT)aol.com> Subject: [DML] Re: dmc northstar conversion Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
The Auto transmission can not reliably cope with this kind of power. Just a guess on what I've heard.
Martin
TJzHeRe27(AT)aol.com wrote:
> I checked out the web site and it looks promising! A 300 horsepower > DeLorean could really be a lot of fun. Quick question from you DeLorean gurus > out there...why would this shop ONLY convert manual, not automatic vehicles? > Any guesses? > > Todd Z.
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 14:38:34 -0500 From: Richard Strecker <dmc1219(AT)one.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <19991114001218.48922.qmail(AT)hotmail.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Heat shield / Fuel Pump - Radiator Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Stian, Quite true. Dave Bauerle did sell these heat deflectors and they really do work. I think I bought one of the last ones he had available & don't know if he has made more. They are basically a piece of rubber belting material cut to fit behind the radiator to deflect the hot air away from the top of the fuel tank (where the pump is located). Since I installed the piece I have not had the "noise" from the fuel pump.
You can contact Dave:
David Bauerle Bauerle Automotive Radnor Road Radnor OH 43066 740-595-3348 Voice 740-595-3556 FAX
As far as I know at the moment Dave is not on the internet.....
Richard
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Michael Babb" <michael.babb(AT)mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 12:33:51 -0700 Subject: [DML] Luggage Rack - Ski Rack Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
For anyone interested, I have posted my experiences with installing the luggage rack on my car at www.babbtechnology.com/delorean (just click on the link on the main page). I will also get to try it out next weekend as the dog and I will be driving from Denver, CO to Raleigh, NC for Thanksgiving.
Also, just out of curiosity, does anyone have the ski adapter for the luggage rack? I don't ski myself, there not much good skiing here in Colorado ;) , but am interested in their availability and what they are now worth.
Thanks
Michael Babb VIN 3472
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 19:24:52 +0000 From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster(AT)delorean.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0.b1a5bcfa.2560280f(AT)aol.com> Subject: [DML] Re: dmc northstar conversion Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Interesting. The DMC Power website says the following of the engine:
"300 horse power - 295 ft. lbs. torque"
...and the Pearce Design (Permaframe) page says:
"As far as strength, the original frame would handle 130 FtLbs for torque in the engine compartment, the new frame will handle 310 FtLbs of torque in the engine compartment with a calculated correspondence throughout the frame."
Does this not point to the Northstar far exceeding the torque limit of the stock engine compartment?
Martin
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut(AT)worldnet.att.net> References: <382EE76D.FB0EF0B3(AT)megalink.net> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 14:04:57 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Death of a Delorean???????? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I agree and am going to stop the thread on this subject for now. I believe enough has been said.
Bruce Benson, current moderator
> Perhaps it just me, but I think out of repsect for the family of Mr. > Lang that posting pictures of the car he was killed in is in rather >poor taste Also. *please* lets not get into debates about the >physics of 2 cars hitting each other at what speed........ > Tom Watkins > #5732
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 12:39:37 -0800 From: Dylan <conundrm(AT)ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <199911111022.s2lnoo.hm9.33qs885(AT)mail01.dfw.mindspring.net> Subject: [DML] Yellow Delorean Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I'm not sure, but I seem to recall someone on the list asking if anyone has seen a yellow Delorean. I was just browsing the selection on Automall.com, and was suprised to find a yellow D within 40 miles of me, located in Half Moon Bay in CA. I'm probably going to try and get in touch with the owner, and see if I can get a good look at it, and maybe take some pictures. Whomever it was who was curious about it, please email me privately for any information you might want (his phone number, or pictures if I get to take them).
conundrm(AT)ix.netcom.com
- Dylan
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Delorean17(AT)aol.com Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 15:43:04 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Removing door and quarter panel Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello,
I recently purchased a project DeLorean that had a U-haul truck back into
the right door. The entire door was bent(not just the panel) and it is
pushed out quite a bit from the other panels. I found a new door for it but
don't know how I should go about putting it on. I have heard you can be
seriously injured from the torsion bar. Has anyone ever removed one? If so
how did you go about doing it? I would like to throw it on this winter.
The right quarter panel was also dented in the accident. How does it come off?
I look forward to your responses
Thanks
Dave vin#2496
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Richard Cutter" <dmc_power(AT)hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 21:42:41 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: dmc northstar conversion Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Greetings...
The Delorean has an intergrated engine transmission unit that keeps most torque loading within the engine transmission power train. This is unlike a front engine, reardrive car where all torque is transmitted through the frame. The DeLorean frame will feel more of a front lift/rear drop with acceleration and in this direction it is well designed. The Northstar conversion has a additional brace through the rear member and two additional mounts to help distribuate the additional 55 lbs of engine weight and additional torque. We have seen no problems with torque on the frame... Remember the rear is the toughest portion of the frame.... Very well made... Thanks to JZD future desires in performance...
Rich Cutter # 5467 - NS
>From: "Richard Petrie" <juffo7(AT)hotmail.com> >Reply-To: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com >To: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com >Subject: [DML] Re: dmc northstar conversion >Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 12:44:26 CST > >Hello everyone! > >I'm curious with the whole Northstar conversion scenario, is it advisable? >Meaning, was the Delorean chassis designed to handle that kind of >power/torque? I've heard nightmare stories of similar converstions, and >just >wanted some feedback as to the safety involved ;) > >Cheers! > >Richard > >______________________________________________________ > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: >www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > >To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: >moderator(AT)dmcnews.com > >-- 20 megs of disk space in your group's Document Vault >-- http://www.egroups.com/docvault/dmcnews/?m=1 > >
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Correction,
Believe it of not the DeLorean parts manual has a few mistakes. Let me take this opportunity to note the discrepancy for this particular part. The air bleed hose is actually part # 101460. The hose designated at 1/3/1 # 30 part # 100502 is incorrectly identified as the "air bleed connector", it should be "vent hose".
Ed, your description of how the header bottle (expansion tank) is integrated into the system is right on track.
The DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: Ann & Ed Thompson <RappaRivaRat(AT)erols.com> > > > BurkePhoto(AT)aol.com wrote: > > > > This is totally incorrect. Deloreans do, or are supposed to have, overflow > > containers. The original was plastic and was prone to cracking, probably the > > reason some Deloreans are sans container. > > Not "totally incorrect" Burke. > > Technically, the DeLorean does not have an "overflow container" but rather a > "header bottle assembly", part #101944. Typically an overflow container is > not part of a pressurized system. The container you refer to is an integral > component of the DeLoren's pressurized system and, by design, works as an > expansion chamber for the system, thus eliminating the need for a conventional > overflow container. The system was designed so there would be no "overflow". > > Without the header bottle assembly the DeLorean cooling system cannot work > properly as designed. > > BTW, if you were to fill the header bottle completely full, there would be > some "overflow" through the "overflow" hose (technically called the air bleed > connection hose, part #100502) to the road, outside of the closed system. > Eventually the expansion will force out enough excess solution fluid so that > there will be enough room in the header bottle to accommodate solution > expansion without further overflow. > > Regards, > Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982) > Midlothian, VA
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Arnie Brandon" <Arnie(AT)PNDC.org> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 14:37:26 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <003a01bf2ed7$2ee88560$7ee0aec7(AT)gandalf> Subject: [DML] Re: Luggage Rack - Ski Rack Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I hAVE A brand new never used set of ski racks for your luggage rack. Still in original black "leather" case. Make an offer and I'll connsider it. Arnie
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Babb [mailto:michael.babb(AT)mindspring.com] Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 11:34 AM To: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Luggage Rack - Ski Rack
For anyone interested, I have posted my experiences with installing the luggage rack on my car at www.babbtechnology.com/delorean (just click on the link on the main page). I will also get to try it out next weekend as the dog and I will be driving from Denver, CO to Raleigh, NC for Thanksgiving.
Also, just out of curiosity, does anyone have the ski adapter for the luggage rack? I don't ski myself, there not much good skiing here in Colorado ;) , but am interested in their availability and what they are now worth.
Thanks
Michael Babb VIN 3472
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Okay, I am really confused. I have read on this list before that the 1982 series started at 10001, and now I have seen it twice that it started at 10000. Which is the truth?? Or to make it even more simple, was there a VIN 10000 ever built?
Thank you, Darren Decker VIN 5000
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "chris" <chris(AT)internets.freeserve.co.uk> References: <199911111022.s2lnoo.hm9.33qs885(AT)mail01.dfw.mindspring.net> <382F1E09.698DF716(AT)ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 22:58:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Yellow Delorean Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I have seen a yellow DMC in the UK. It was a 82 model i guess as the bonnet was flat with no fuel flap.
I have pics if anyone is intrested
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> I'm not sure, but I seem to recall someone on the list asking if anyone has seen a yellow > Delorean. I was just browsing the selection on Automall.com, and was suprised to find a > yellow D within 40 miles of me, located in Half Moon Bay in CA. I'm probably going to try and > get in touch with the owner, and see if I can get a good look at it, and maybe take some > pictures. Whomever it was who was curious about it, please email me privately for any > information you might want (his phone number, or pictures if I get to take them). > > conundrm(AT)ix.netcom.com > > - Dylan > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: > www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator(AT)dmcnews.com > > -- 20 megs of disk space in your group's Document Vault > -- http://www.egroups.com/docvault/dmcnews/?m=1 > > >
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> don't know how I should go about putting it on. I have heard you can be > seriously injured from the torsion bar. Has anyone ever removed one? If so > how did you go about doing it? I would like to throw it on this winter.
Removing the torsion bars is not as difficult as it has been made out to sound, as long as you have the proper help, tools, and brace. Check out my web page at http://labwww.csv.cmich.edu/luke/auto/delorean, under the "Infosheets" section for the procedure.
This summer, with the help of two friends, I removed both bars from my car. The amount of force required to hold, release, and re-wind the bars is about the same as holding a cinder block above your head (I was working in a confined height, and couldn't use a very long pipe extension on the breaker bar). So the key is, put the strong guy on torque detail, someone on mount doing /undoing, and a backup to hold the brace from sliding around. Also, you want to use high quality tools for this procedures, no Chrome-Vanadium steel business.
While I was in there, I took the opportunity to reinforce the steel panel that the torsion bars mount into. Well worth the extra time and effort. That procedure is under the "Repair Procedures" section of my web page.
Luke VIN 10270
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Per a DMC memo, the first 82 VIN was 10001.
James Espey DeLorean Motor Company Houston, Texas
281/568-9573 800/USA-DMC1 http://www.usadmc.com
At 5:43 PM -0500 11/14/99, Iznodmad(AT)aol.com wrote: >Okay, I am really confused. I have read on this list before that the 1982 >series started at 10001, and now I have seen it twice that it started at >10000. Which is the truth?? Or to make it even more simple, was there a VIN >10000 ever built? > >Thank you, >Darren Decker >VIN 5000
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Just received word that the CSK Auto Calendars are available, featuring my Delorean (http://www.usadmc.com/10570.html) as the March car - I haven't seen it yet, but I'm told that it also features a photo of myself, as well as the engine compartment. Up until now I've only been a "poster child", never a "calendar guy". No autographs, please... :)
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Stian,
YES! It works extremely well, and I just had Mr. Bauerle put it on for me
about two months ago. Before that, the car would develop said fuel pump noise
after being driven for about four hours, but now I don't have any problems at
all.
It consists of a durable foam rubber like material, that fits behind the
cooling fans, but forward of the fuel tank. It simply channels the hot air
coming off the fans underneath the car instead of around the fuel tank. Simple
idea, cheap and it works well! I can't ask for more than that!
Josh Haldeman
VIN 5102
Stian Birkeland wrote:
> How many heatshields are there on the DeLorean anyway??? Where are they > located??? > > In an old DeLorean World ad for Bauerle Automotive in Ohio, you could also > buy a non-delorean after-market heatshield to place in front of the car. > This heatshield was meant to protect the fuelpump from the warm air coming > from the radiator. This was supposed to help the fuelpump operation, so that > the fuelpump wouldn't develop a high noise during operation. Is there any > truth in this??? > > If this is true, is this particular heatshield still available? > > >From Bauerle? DMC Houston? PJ Grady? D1? Or is it not produced anymore? > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Stian Birkeland > NORWAY
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In a message dated 10/27/99 4:44:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, james(AT)usadmc.com writes:
<< The DeLorean Owenrs Club will have a spectacular display, with about 10 cars on display. >>
I lucked out & managed to attend this show & the DOC had an excellent display! There were about 7 cars, one of which was a right hand drive with only 4 miles on it. It's named "Dusty", because it was stored in a barn for the last 18 years and was a mess (it was filthy and covered with dust--hence the name). Inside was pristine, though.
The display received a huge amount of attention and people seemed interested in learning about the cars. It looked to be a real positive event. mATT #6770
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I am sorry if I offended anyone by my comments. I stand by them, and still think there should be a separation of "commercial" and "noncommercial" elements of the DeLorean (or any) community. Again, I meant NO PERSONAL INSULT to ANYONE.
raddad(AT)cmn.net wrote: <SNIP> > group. A number of us have never met. ANYONE who even hints that we, as a > group, could be influenced by a $25 - $50 - or even $100 advertising > contribution doesn't know us or our commitment to keeping the dream alive. <SNIP>
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Hello,
I thought all northstar motors and conversion had to be automatic.
- Shain
TJzHeRe27(AT)aol.com wrote:
> I checked out the web site and it looks promising! A 300 horsepower > DeLorean could really be a lot of fun. Quick question from you DeLorean gurus > out there...why would this shop ONLY convert manual, not automatic vehicles? > Any guesses? > > If I remember, isn't the guy who drove this DeLorean to St. Louis and > other places on this list? If so, how is this vehicle insured...as a regular > DeLorean or a V-8 powered sports car? > > Todd Z. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: > www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator(AT)dmcnews.com > > -- Easily schedule meetings and events using the group calendar! > -- http://www.egroups.com/cal?listname=dmcnews&m=1
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James Espey
Please tell us where we can get a copy of those Calendars where your "D" is the March Pinup.
Mike in NH
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The DeLorean has what is known as a surge tank and is pressured along with the radiator and coolong system... No overflow tank is on the system to catch the bleed from the pressure cap... If you keep the surge tank about 2/3 rd full, bleed over is normally not a problem, at least not with mine....
Rich Cutter # 5467
>From: BurkePhoto(AT)aol.com >Reply-To: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com >To: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com >Subject: [DML] Coolant overflow >Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 23:01:55 EST > >Moderators, is there a problem with this response? > >Subj: Re: [DML] Re: COOLANT OVERFLOW >Date: 11/9/99 11:17:29 PM Eastern Standard Time >From: <A HREF="mailto:BurkePhoto">BurkePhoto</A> >To: <A HREF="mailto:dmcnews(AT)egroups.com">dmcnews(AT)egroups.com</A> > >In a message dated 11/9/99 6:11:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, WINGD2(AT)aol.com >writes: > ><< Chip, > Your car is just like all the others. The Delorean does not have an > overflow container. A small bit of trivia : Guess who owns the patent > rights to the coolant overflow container ? JZD himself ! >> > >This is totally incorrect. Deloreans do, or are supposed to have, overflow >containers. The original was plastic and was prone to cracking, probably >the >reason some Deloreans are sans container. The correct solution is to >replace >the original plastic container with after market containers fabricated from >stainless steel. > >Burke > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: >www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > >To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: >moderator(AT)dmcnews.com > > >eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews >http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications > > > > >
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... Does anyone have access to the "legend" car? Were there any frame modifications made to that car to handle the extra Torque of the legend motor?
Martin Gutkowski wrote: > > Interesting. The DMC Power website says the following of the engine: > > "300 horse power - 295 ft. lbs. torque" > > ...and the Pearce Design (Permaframe) page says: > > "As far as strength, the original frame would handle 130 FtLbs for > torque in the engine compartment, the new frame will handle 310 > FtLbs of torque in the engine compartment with a calculated > correspondence throughout the frame." > > Does this not point to the Northstar far exceeding the torque limit of the stock > engine compartment? > > Martin >
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The calendar is a product of the CSK Auto parts chain of stores.
CSK - Checker Schuncks Kragen
The calendar is onaly available at their stores (primarily in the Western United States), find one near you at their website -
http://www.cskauto.com
The price, as I understand it, is just $1.00 - yes, a buck. Proceeds benefit the Boys and Girls Club.
James
At 9:00 PM -0500 11/14/99, Mike03062(AT)aol.com wrote: >James Espey > >Please tell us where we can get a copy of those Calendars where your "D" is >the March Pinup. > >Mike in NH >
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VIN 502 with the Legend twin turbo is owned by someone....big mystery. It = was on consignment at DMC-Houston for a while, and Stephen Wynne was handli= ng all negotiations. I was able to see the car when I went down to pick up= my car about 3 years ago.....very cool, although it needed a restoration (= included with the purchase of the car, if the price was right). I believe = that since no serious offers were made, the car was put back into storage b= y the owner. =
James - Any more info on this?
Now I just have to win the lottery.....
Michael VIN 3472
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There are about 11 Checker Auto Parts stores near my home. If anyone is un= able to find an CSK subsidiary near them, let me know and we will work out = a deal.
Michael Babb michael.babb(AT)mindspring.com VIN 3472 ----- Original Message ----- =
From: James Espey =
To: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com =
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 6:43 PM Subject: [DML] Re: Mr. March 2000
The calendar is a product of the CSK Auto parts chain of stores.
CSK - Checker Schuncks Kragen
The calendar is onaly available at their stores (primarily in the Western United States), find one near you at their website -
http://www.cskauto.com
The price, as I understand it, is just $1.00 - yes, a buck. Proceeds benefit the Boys and Girls Club.
James
At 9:00 PM -0500 11/14/99, Mike03062(AT)aol.com wrote: >James Espey > >Please tell us where we can get a copy of those Calendars where your "D" i= s >the March Pinup. > >Mike in NH >
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CSK - Checker Schuncks Kragen
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<A href=3D"http://www.cskauto.com">http://www.cskauto.com</A>
The price, as I understand it, is just $1.00 - yes, a buck. Proceeds benefit the Boys and Girls Club.
James
At 9:00 PM -0500 11/14/99, Mike03062(AT)aol.com wrote: >James Espey > >Please tell us where we can get a copy of those Calendars where your "D= " is >the March Pinup. > >Mike in NH >
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: CBL302(AT)aol.com Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 23:08:13 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Yellow Delorean Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
For those interested in seeing a Yellow delorean(or Red or Black)there are color pics,in STI(Stainless Steel Illusion) on page 120,that yellow one is most likely the original Kapac car seen on their surplus lot.
Claude 000570
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 23:07:46 -0500 From: "Jesse D. Sightler" <jess(AT)activated.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <l0313031db45515306b83(AT)[192.0.0.100]> Subject: [DML] Re: Mr. March 2000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Uh, oh. :-) All of their stores are on the West Coast.
Perhaps some enterprising individual with a store in the vicinity could offer to purchase a batch of them to sell to the group? I would imagine that there are quite a few of us willing to put out a good $5-$10 for a copy.
'Just a thought,
Jess http://www.biddin.com/delorean VIN# 5220
James Espey wrote:
> The calendar is a product of the CSK Auto parts chain of stores. > > CSK - Checker Schuncks Kragen > > The calendar is onaly available at their stores (primarily in the Western > United States), find one near you at their website - > > http://www.cskauto.com > > The price, as I understand it, is just $1.00 - yes, a buck. Proceeds > benefit the Boys and Girls Club. > > James > > At 9:00 PM -0500 11/14/99, Mike03062(AT)aol.com wrote: > >James Espey > > > >Please tell us where we can get a copy of those Calendars where your "D" is > >the March Pinup. > > > >Mike in NH > >
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: KELGIL1(AT)aol.com Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 23:22:06 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] 1981 Delorean For Sale Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Original Owner. Purchased the day John Delorean was arrested (interesting fact). Stock, 5 speed Delorean (#6469). Light Gray interior. 11,350 original miles. This is one of the nicest Deloreans you will see. Located in Southern California. Asking $19,500. Respond to KELGIL1(AT)AOL.COM
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 21:03:05 -0800 From: Darryl Tinnerstet <darryl(AT)techline.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: heat shields Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
My third DeLorean, which I drove for about 5 years almost daily, was a very early car (VIN 923 I think) which had no provision for a heatshield. There were no brackets. They normally are a part of the lower muffler brackets, but this car definitely did not ever have them. I had no heat related problems with it at all. Please note that I am NOT advocating that anyone leave their heat shield off. But I would like to know if any other owners of very early cars were similarly un-equipped.
-- Darryl Tinnerstet McCleary, WA
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 21:42:34 -0800 From: Darryl Tinnerstet <darryl(AT)techline.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] pictures in the vault Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I just attempted to upload 4 pictures of my supercharged DeLorean in the DMCNews vault, in a folder called "superchargedChevyDMC" but I'm not sure it worked. They appear to be there, but I can't open them. Being the computer novice that I am, can someone let me know if they are indeed there? (Not everyone, please!) Thanks.
-- Darryl Tinnerstet
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: CBL302(AT)aol.com Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 23:28:37 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Removing door and quarter panel Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Remove the T panel,to access the wiring harness,then support the door fully open(using a 2x4)wedged tight between the door and the ground remove the strut,then as you remove the bolts holding the door on, have asstists,hold the door as all the hindge bolts are removed.NEVER remove or work on a Delorean door without it being wedged up,so as not to come down on you.The Delorean Q panel has what look like philips screws (they are not philips screws)under the door weatherstrip and the rocker panel and under the rear facia,and the rocker panel on the back of the Q panel,and of course you have to remove the engine compartment rear louver.
Claude 000570
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)att.net> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:40:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Removing door and quarter panel Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Dave, All the information you are requesting can be found in the following sections of the Workshop Manual. Door Removal & Installation: P:02:06 Torsion Bar Remove & Replace: P:02:06 Fender Remove & Replace: P:02:02
If you need further details feel free to contact us directly.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: Delorean17(AT)aol.com > To: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com > > Hello, > I recently purchased a project DeLorean that had a U-haul truck back into > the right door. The entire door was bent(not just the panel) and it is > pushed out quite a bit from the other panels. I found a new door for it but > don't know how I should go about putting it on. I have heard you can be > seriously injured from the torsion bar. Has anyone ever removed one? If so > how did you go about doing it? I would like to throw it on this winter.
> > The right quarter panel was also dented in the accident. How does it come > off? > > I look forward to your responses > > Thanks > > Dave > vin#2496 >
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Richard Cutter" <dmc_power(AT)hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 04:28:51 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: dmc northstar conversion Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Greetings...
The Northstar is produced only as an automatic by G/M but its like any engine can be converted to manual use with proper flywheel and clutch.
Rich Cutter # 5467 - NS
>From: Sean Jones <shain(AT)noln.com> >Reply-To: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com >To: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com >Subject: [DML] Re: dmc northstar conversion >Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 20:27:29 -0500 > >Hello, > >I thought all northstar motors and conversion had to be automatic. > >- Shain >
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Goin88mph(AT)aol.com Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 04:21:26 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Mr. March 2000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
i am 3 minutes from kragens, i will help anyone who wants a calendar, you pay the dollar plus the shipping (at most $2.00 for everything). They charge an even buck (no tax) i am not in this to make a profit or anything just wanting to help, e-mail me for any questions, i hope i can help,
J (i got my issue, the 'D' picture is bitchin w/ the background)
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