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4806. SteveDMC                  Re: DeLorean battery
4807. WINGD2@aol.com            Re: Wankel Rotary
4808. TJJSM@aol.com             Re: DMC facility in Irvine.
4809. IVe099@aol.com            DMC in DuPont Registry
4810. ajl521@aol.com            Who wants to be a Millionare
4811. Robert Brandys            Re: So what are the 0-60 times?
4812. Robert Brandys            Re: Another Dyno Day and Track Day
4813. DMC Joe                   Re: Flashlight key pictures
4814. DMC Joe                   Re: Installing rubberpad on clutch pedal - glue o
4815. DMC Joe                   Re: DeLorean battery
4816. DMC Joe                   Re: Carpet Replacement ?
4817. DMC Joe                   Re: A Dupont DeLorean?
4818. Stanley Birkett           August 2000 Delorean
4819. BondAtomic@aol.com        DeLorean specifications
4820. NJP548@aol.com            DeLorean mention on ABC
4821. Phil                      Re: Wankel Rotary
4822. Steve Pattison            Re: Delorean One
4823. ABatt10347@aol.com        Can you spot the items?
4824. BondAtomic@aol.com        DeLoreans on top 100!
4825. Comet42483@aol.com        Re: Delorean One
4826. brian_roy@excite.com      Lego's with gullwings...
4827. Darryl Tinnerstet         Re: a cooler DMC
4828. Darryl Tinnerstet         Re: cost of the Northstar conversion
4829. Jonathan Heslop           Re: Who wants to be a Millionare
4830. Grimsrud, Knut S          Moderator's note - End of the DeLorean One thread
4831. IVe099@aol.com            Re: Who wants to be a Millionare
4832. Ben Krasnow               WANTED: Front fascia or right-hand quarter
4833. KayoOng@aol.com           Door and Interior Lights Out
4834. Matthew Lach              Turbo...  Why?
4835. R. Haslewood              A Festival gig...
4836. Mike Substelny            Re: Lego's with gullwings...
4837. Robert Brandys            Re: HP and Torque Data
4838. Yocom, Shannon            Re: Last Chance on the DMCNews Store (T-Shirt)
4839. Stian Birkeland           New coolant bottle
4840. SteveDMC                  Re: Door and Interior Lights Out
4841. Iznodmad@aol.com          Re: DeLoreans on top 100!
4842. Kevin Rawlings            Re: Who wants to be a Millionare
4843. Stian Birkeland           Stainless Steel Bumper letters
4844. Arnie Brandon             Bleeder Kit
4845. Lee                       Re: New coolant bottle
4846. Danrc30                   Re: Door and Interior Lights Out
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From: "SteveDMC" <SteveDMC@i-55.com>
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Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 20:09:36 -0600
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David,
    To my surprise I found a battery for the DeLorean at walmart.  Just look
for one of those part computers by the batterys at walmart and you will see
the name DeLorean in the list.
    My DeLorean has had the same battery in it since the day it was bought
in
> 81.  It will no longer hold a charge.  What battery do you reccomend?  I
want
> a high quality battery that will last me a while.  What are the part
numbers
> for the battery?  I searched the archives but didnt find any part numbers.
>
> David,
> Thanks
> #2496-needs help
>

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Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 23:23:47 EST
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In a message dated 11/20/99 7:45:20 PM Central Standard Time, rx7@netdot.com 
writes:
<<  I can't think of anything better
 than a Delorean with a turbo'd rotary in it.  Nothing like going 80 in third
 gear, without being at redline.  >>
   When we ran the Deloreans at the Dyno Days event a few weeks ago, the dyno 
runs were done in third gear starting at 2500 rpm and run up to 5000 rpm.  
The speed recorded on the dyno at 5000 rpm in 3rd gear was 103 mph.  The cars 
redline at 6500 rpm.
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Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 23:41:14 EST
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The address was 2055 Southeast Main Street on the corner of Main and Gillette 
in Irvine.  As you''re coming off the freeway, turn north then right on Main 
St.  It's only a block or so on the left on the corner.  I used to work there 
as the Records and Office Manager so if any of you know the location of 
former employees, please send them my e-mail
Sherry Musser
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Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 00:49:26 EST
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The DuPont Registry magazine currently features the 100 greatest cars of all time.  The DMC-12 comes in at #63, saying it is unlike any other car on the list. And John DeLorean's '65 Pontiac GTO comes in at #95.
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Did anyone see the show who wants to be a millionare last night.  One
of the questions was "What kind of car did Marty McFly travel back in
time in the movie "Back to the Future." Thankfully the person got the
answer right.  
I find it anoying that everyone knows the car from the move, but other
then that, most people dont know anything about the car.  If the movie
hadent been
made, I wonder how it would effect the value of the car.  On one hand
fewer people would know about the car, lowering demand.  But the movie
makes the Delorean look unreliable, which causes an unrealistic view of
the car.
Of course if they never made the movie, we wouldent have to hear the
"wheres the flux capasitor?" questions.  I wonder if people who own
80's Trans Am's get Knight Rider questions?
Andrew
4194

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Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 09:26:25 -0600
From: Robert Brandys <oehcs@flash.net>
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Subject: [DML] Re: So what are the 0-60 times?
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Here are the initial summary results and times using the Cartest2000
computer model. Available at cartest2000.com.  
Engine    0-60	1/4 mile	speed	top speed
V-8			6.2		14.7	94.4	143				4 speed auto
Supercharged 8.0	15.9	87.3	138				5 speed stick
Single
turbo		7.2		15.3	90.3	139				5 speed stick
Stock D		8.9		17.0	82.7	124				5 speed stick
Stock
automatic	9.2		16.8	81.0	123				3 speed automatic
Yes according to the model, the automatic stock is quicker than the
stick. Don't known why.  Could be shifting times allowed in the program.
Note: this model assumes parabolic horsepower and torque curves based on
single peak outputs and rpms.  My next step will be to imput individual
HP  and torque curves and see what the results are.
I would have expected the supercharged car to be quicker in the 0-60
than the turbo. Since clearly in the dyno testing the turbo came on
later.  
The only assumption made in my input was HP and Torque loss for the
drive trains.  The Sticks cars were 30 HP and 30 ft/lbs torque.  This
was based on the wheel output compared to the listed engine HP.  e. g. 
130 - 100 at wheel == 30 HP loss to drive train. 
The automatic cars were 40 HP and 40 ft/lb torque. again based on the
test results and list values.
Many Thankx to W. Wilson for recommending Cartest2000.  It facilitated
these initial results. 
Dr. Bob
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Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 09:31:08 -0600
From: Robert Brandys <oehcs@flash.net>
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Next year we are looking to schedule another dyno day and a day to test
the real world quarter mile times at Route 66 Drag raceway.
By next year Jason is going to have more work done on his super charged
D and I will be adding fuel injection to the V-8.  
Since we all do about 90 in the quarter mile, and don't get under 10s,
we won't need roll cages.  The cost for the quarter mile run is about
$15.00 per car. 
Let me know how many of you would be interest. The quarter mile racing
would be a wednesday or friday EVENING.  That is when they have open
racing.  I will try to see if we can get some special arrangements. 
Bob
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From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net>
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 10:25:00 -0500
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Jonathan,
Although the illuminated key was a nice idea, they just don't work. If you
can make the light work you will find that within a few days, maybe hours,
the light will cease to function.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site:  <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> From: Jonathan Miller <betaray@kludge.org>
> 
> I'm a brand spankin' new Delorean owner (#844). I was going to try to
> replace the battery in my flashlight key, and when I opened it up parts
> flew everywhere. I've got the copper peice with the bulb, and the spring
> but I have a feeling I'm missing something else. If some one could
> describe the inner workings of this key, or better yet take a couple
> pictures of the inside of their own, I'd be very grateful. Thanks. 
> 
> --
> Jonathan                               

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From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net>
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 10:30:20 -0500
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Stian,
No glue required. Just peal back the edges and be sure that they are
completely wrapped all around the pedal.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site:  <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> From: Stian Birkeland <dmc_norway@hotmail.com>
> 
> When you install a new rubberpad on the pedals (clutch) - Are you
supposed 
> to just "hang it on" to the pedal or is it better to glue it on the
pedal? 
> If so, what is the recommended glue? Please advise.
> 
> Best wishes
> Stian Birkeland
> NORWAY

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From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net>
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 10:39:00 -0500
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David,
Any name brand side post battery that fits in the battery compartment will
work. Many owners hail the performance of batteries from Optima and
Interstate.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site:  <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> From: Delorean17@aol.com
> 
> Hello,
>     My DeLorean has had the same battery in it since the day it was
bought in 
> 81.  It will no longer hold a charge.  What battery do you reccomend?  I
want 
> a high quality battery that will last me a while.  What are the part
numbers 
> for the battery?  I searched the archives but didnt find any part
numbers.
> 
> David,
> Thanks
> #2496-needs help

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From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net>
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 11:27:27 -0500
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Lee,
Just one question. The factory carpets are molded to follow the contours of
the body, how does one take regular flat remnant carpet and duplicate the
factory carpet contours. If the factory contours are not duplicated the
installation will look pretty shabby; wouldn't it ?
  
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site:  <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> From: Lee <support@radiance.com>
> 
> >Hello,
> 
 Go out and
> find a color match for your existing carpets and get a few yards. Pull
> the seats and center consol. Pull up the current carpet and use it as a
> pattern to cut the new carpet. You will have to remove some door flashing
> but this is no big deal. My guess is that you should be able to find a
> remnant for less than $50. 
> 
> 
> Lee
> 

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From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net>
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 11:49:04 -0500
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We don't have any information on Dupont test cars, we do however, have
factory Bulletin ST-2-2 / 82 Painting Stainless Steel Body Panels. This six
page bulletin contains a section concerning the Dupont Imron product with
complete directions on how to prepare and paint the DeLorean stainless
steel panels.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site:  <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> From: Delorean17@aol.com
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] A Dupont DeLorean?
> Date: Friday, November 19, 1999 7:04 PM
> 
> Hello,
>     The car was black when he 
> got it.  The dealer told him that Dupont painted the car to prove that
their 
> paint would stick to stainless.  I have heard about dupont cars, could
myne 
> be one?  the vin# is 2496 with gas flap on hood and black interior.  I
know 
> the number isnt real early but it seems like DeLorean would start making
a 
> few cars before they would let dupont mess with them.  The title says
"new" 
> and color: black.  If anyone knows what vins were tested by Dupont please
> respond.  The paint is starting to oxidise so I think I am going to strip
it 
> this summer.  I just think it would be neat to know if this was a test
car.  
> 
> Thanks
> vin#2496-its coming back!

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From: "Stanley Birkett" <stan_birkett@hillvalley.swinternet.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 18:19:32 -0000
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Subject: [DML] August 2000 Delorean
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Hi Guys
Heres an other callender with a D for the month of August available on line=
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Its also available in the UK from Callender Club shops at =A37.99.  =
The web site does not list the cars.
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From: BondAtomic@aol.com
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:13:43 EST
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Dear Members,
I was wondering if anyone had the correct specifications for the DeLorean in 
a file of some sort. Thanks!
John Feldman
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Hey List,
  I was surprised no one else saw this mention of the DeLorean.  On last 
nights "Who wants to be a Millionaire" on ABC, the question for winning I 
believe it was $4000 was "What kind of car took Michael J. Fox back in time 
in the movie Back to the Future?"  And of course the answer was the first 
answer A. DeLorean.  They had 3 other cars that would have nothing to do with 
the movie, I believe one of them was a Buick.  Just thought this was 
something that you guys on the list would be interested in knowing.  Thanks a 
lot.
Later,
Nick
VIN#1852.....Sorry, not for sale anymore, now I am doing a complete tear-down 
and frame-up restoration, wish me luck!!!!
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The only down sides of the wankel is that it has poor fuel mileage, and most
of all the wankel has a poor compression ratio rather than a "normal piston
engine."
-Phil
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> >Regarding the Wankel Rotary engine although small and light I have heard
> >that the reliability was not as strong as 'regular; engines and certainly
a
> >little bit more thirsty on the jungle juice.
> >
> >Am I right about the above points???
> >
> >Christopher M. Hawes
> >DMD (Delorean Model Dealership)
> >
>
>
> My 1st gen rx7's usually got around 20-25mpg during normal town driving,
so
> it's safe to say it isn't that good.  As for reliability, the rotary is
such
> a simple engine that you need not do much more than change the oil
> religiously to keep it running smoothly.  Most engine deaths are caused by
> overheating - rotary engines already run much hotter than a conventional
> piston engine.  Pop a heater hose, lose your fluid, and you could have a
> dead engine in a matter of minutes.  It's not uncommon for a semi-clogged
> catalytic converter to glow bright red when it's hooked up to a rotary.
> Rotaries also burn a small amount of oil during operation, by design.  You
> have to top up the oil  about every 1000 miles or you'll be running low by
> the time your oil change comes around.   I can't think of anything better
> than a Delorean with a turbo'd rotary in it.  Nothing like going 80 in
third
> gear, without being at redline.  Since everything is turning in one
> direction, your RPM limit is really constrained by your belt driven parts,
> such as alternator and water pump.   In the racing world, rotaries are
> driven continuously at 10-15,000 rpm!  The lighter weight of the engines
> (only about 250lbs with all the accessories off) would probably help even
> the Delorean's weight distribution out a bit.
>
>
>
>
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Erik,
At least they told you.  I bought my second Delorean (#2528) earlier this y=
ear after having sold my original car (#1534 ?) a number of years ago.  I c=
alled too and requested a catalog.  I was actually considering them for ser=
vice at that time as I live in San Diego.  I got the same questions and was=
 told it would be maybe(?) a month for a catalog to arrive.  Never heard fr=
om them, then when I found this group I read a bit and realized I would nev=
er get the catalog.  I own my own business too and wonder why D-1 does what=
 they do. I'm grateful for the customers I have but I don't own them... my =
staff and I just try our best to please them.  =
Anyway, since then I found Don Steger in Garden Grove who's been a great he=
lp.  Warren & James at DMC Houston have been great, and I'm really happy wi=
th the 'zilla and the service at PJ Gradys.
Steve


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