DeLorean Mailing List 10/20/95
Subjects:
ADMIN NOTE
Clickety-clack
Re: European springs
RE: DeLorean Mailing List #23 - 10/9/95
5 Speed Reverse, 1 Speed Forward
query on parts (new or reconditioned)
ZEP-45
RE: Dashboard Removal
Missing in Rain
RE: Missing in rain
Re: European springs
Re: Idle problems
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From: Knut_S_Grimsrud@ccm.jf.intel.com
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 95 08:18:00 PDT
To: dmcnews@goodnet.com
Subject: Clickety-clack
I ran across an interesting tidbit at the expo this year that you may be
interested in. Have you ever driven alongside a building or embankment
with your window down and heard an annoying "clickety-clack" sound? Have
you ever wondered what it was? According to Robert Grady, your brake
pads do not have retainer springs and the sound you are hearing is your
brake pads slapping/rattling around. So you can stop taking your car
apart looking for that sound now.
Knut Grimsrud
DOA
Chapter 41
From: Knut_S_Grimsrud@ccm.jf.intel.com
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 95 08:44:00 PDT
To: dmcnews@goodnet.com
Subject: Re: European springs
Bob Duckworth (gp310ad@acme.gatech.edu) writes:
> I have a theft recovery DeLorean and the engine is shot. I'm getting
> ready to put it back in shape and am looking for (1) Set of european
> springs or cut down info to modify mine, ....
I have recently been looking into setting my car back down to the originally
designed riding height. The most common procedure for lowering the car is to cut
4 inches from the rear springs (about 3.5 - 3.75 coils) and swapping the cut
rear springs with the front (uncut) springs. This will lower the car about 2
inches overall while still keeping it level.
Knut Grimsrud
DOA
Chapter 41
From: davidt@netmanage.com
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 95 15:34:20 PDT
To: Delorean Mailing List
Subject: RE: DeLorean Mailing List #23 - 10/9/95
awolf@pacific.telebyte.com wrote:
> Just installed an AudioVox cruise control unit on mine...Works
>wonderfully.
> I own an oct. 81 DeLorean with the dash mounted clock.
> Since my cd-player has an integrated clock...I've always wondered
>what I would do with my dash mounted one...
> As luck would have it...the audiovox control unit was almost the
>exact same size as the mount for my dash clock...so I clipped the wires to
>it...removed it from it's box...and mounted the cruise control command unit
>right over it...You'd never know it wasn't stock by the look of it.
> I'm rather proud of m'self...heheh
I am curious if changing stock features lowers the cost of the car (aside from
expensive equiptment that was been put into it).
I am a collector of many "things", and always prefer to have these "things" in
original/mint condition. Am I the only one that would be upset by changes made
to a car that won't be remanufactured? Also, does it matter? -rather- is this
just a nice to drive around in?
Dave
From: JIM LANDRY (72317.1166@compuserve.com)
Date: 18 Oct 95 21:38:24 EDT
To: Delorean Mailing List
Subject: 5 Speed Reverse, 1 Speed Forward
Wanted to share an experience that I had last year while overhauling my manual
transmission. When I was tearing the transmission down, I bought a Instant
camera to be able to remember how everthing should go back together. As I was
putting it back together, I neglected to refer to the pictures since the
DeLorean Workshop Manual appeared to have good instructions and figures (Big
Mistake!).
Well, after several months of taking it out, overhauling, putting it back it; it
finally came time for the test drive. I started it up and put it reverse to
back up and it went FORWARD! I then put it in 1st and it went backwards, 2nd
same, 3rd, 4th, 5th same!
What did I do! After crying for a couple of days I finally discovered what I
did wrong. The differential assembly can go into the transaxle case EITHER on
the right side or the left side. The diagram in the manual (Fig 14 @ F:06:02)
indicates the diffential assembly on the WRONG side of the case. I later was
told that these figures came
from a manual of a Renault transaxle in a FRONT wheel drive application. If I
only checked those pictures, I would of saved several more weeks of re-work. In
a humorous attempt to cheer me up, my wife suggested I just turn the seats
around to save time! I don't know how many other places where this kind of
problem exists in the manual, but everyone BEWARE!
From: yhamaie@ppp.bekkoame.or.jp
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 21:10:11 +0900
To: "Delorean Mailing List"
Subject: query on parts (new or reconditioned)
Dear Admirers of Stainless Steel Construction,
Here in Japan in the last couple of months two friends of mine had their
DMC-12s damaged in minor accidents. One broke his front bumper (a passenger
vehicle hit his car while it was parked) and the other heavily distorted his
LEFT front fender (a delivery wagon bumped into his car while it was parked).
DeLorean One, DMC, and others do not have these parts in stock and it seems
that they are very hard to obtain. I would appreciate it very much if you
kindly tell us where to look for these parts. Many thanks in advance.
Sincerely, Yoshi
From: awolf@pacific.telebyte.net
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 15:22:47 -0700
To: "Delorean Mailing List"
Subject: ZEP-45
Thanks to GreyMattrs for reminding me...
I've been looking for the product ZEP-45 for a while, with no luck...
WD-40 disolves with any type of water, and I've reslved to use Dura
Lube a few times for different problems.
Anybody know where I might be able to pick up a can or two?
Wolfie
From: awolf@pacific.telebyte.net
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 15:24:55 -0700
To: "Delorean Mailing List"
Subject: RE: Dashboard Removal
> Has anyone ever managed to remove the dashboard without having to remove
>the windshield? I can't seem to find the right screwdriver to get to the
>screws between the front dash and the windshiled.
hmmmm...No idea...was wondering the same m'self, as I've been
contemplating a digital dashboard, and haven't been able to find removal
and dissassembly instruction in any of my shop manuals...
If you find out, let me know...and I'll write in a revision in my
manual...
Wolfie
From: awolf@pacific.telebyte.net
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 15:35:14 -0700
To: "Delorean Mailing List"
Cc: ChrisAU79@aol.com
Subject: Missing in Rain
hmmmm...Only thing I can think of is probably unlikely in this case.
The PNDC club president has a problem similar after his water hose blew...
He patched it and limped home to replace it, and the car ran
horribly, so after checking all other options, including making his way to
the distributor...he started checking his plugs...
The water had been forced under the plug cap and filled the hole,
thus shorting, thus missing.
I've had the same problem when washing my engine, several times,
though I never tracked the problem down.
When I give my engine, even a light hosing off without first
getting it warm enough to burn the water off...it will usually refuse to
start, or desides to die once I give it gas...
I doubt water in the plugs is your problem, but...only thing I can
give you...
Wolfie
From: Nick.Kemp@HBC.honeywell.com
Date: 18 Oct 1995 11:43:25 -0700
To: "dmcnews@goodnet.com"
Subject: RE: Missing in rain
With regards to: Missing in rain ...
My first Delorean (car 1255 where are you?) would also miss in the rain. I
had some of that plastic tubing that is split lengthwise and is used for
wire bundles, that I put of the spark plug wires and it solved the problem.
You may want to try the same to determine if the problem is spark plug wire
related.
From: Delornut@aol.com
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 22:26:58 -0400
To: dmcnews@goodnet.com
Subject: Re: European springs
The fellow who sold the Euro springs is not selling them any longer. At least
that's what I was told by someone at Expo '95. The most comman method of
lowering the car is to install the front springs in the rear and cut 3 3/4
coils from the rear springs and install them in the front. It will alter the
camber of the rear wheels a bit but no more severly than many Corvettes that
I've driven behind. I lowered my car in this manner several years back and
find the high speed handling much better. The car has a slight forword
attitude and is low enough that less air gets under it and the front end
doesn't get light at high speeds. Use a cut off wheel, not a torch, and taper
the springs the way the original is tapered. Slide some hose over the first
coil and one half to eliminate rattles and such.
Fred Locket, the fellow that sold the Euro springs told me the compression
tests he did on the springs revealed the same compression rate for front and
rear, even though the front springs are made of a smaller diameter material.
The slight increase in camber and the slightly softer spring ratio in the
rear, after the swap, seems to help overcome the weight bias of the rear
engine by giving the rear a little more bite. The rear end withstands more
flogging before breaking loose.
Bruce Benson
From: Delornut@aol.com
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 22:11:38 -0400
To: dmcnews@goodnet.com
Subject: Re: Idle problems
In addition to obvious mechanical problems causing the throttle to hold
partially open,the other comman cause of fast idle is a leak, or leaks, in
the intake system. ( vacume leaks ) Comman areas are the auxilary air pipe
leading from the Idle motor to the mix unit lower housing ( ther'e just an o
ring sealing this pipe ) , any vacume hoses, and the gasket, #102772 in the
parts book, which is between the mix housing and the throttle valve ass'y.
This rubber sandwich can be torn eaisily when pulling the mix unit around
while servicing the distributor and other hard to reach items behind the
intake manifold. A spray can of carburator cleaner will help find vacume
leaks. With the engine running, spray around all vacume connections and
gasket areas of the air intake manifold. Any vacume leak will suck the carb
claeaner into the intake and momentarily increase the engine speed.
Another source of idling problems is the electrical connection to the vacume
solenoid just behind the fuel distributer. It's easy to knock the plug off
while working on or cleaning the engine. When unplugged the engine will idle
very rough as though a plug wire or two are unplugged.
Bruce Benson
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