DeLorean Mailing List - 10/23/96
dmcnews-digest Wednesday, 23 October 1996 Volume 02 : Number 189
In this issue:
Vehicle Speed Sensor for cruise control
DeLorean Article
Delorean advantages
re:Delorean advantages
Re: Delorean advantages
Found one for sale
Cruise Control
Re: That Maniac in the D car
CAR FOR SALE - ILLINOIS
Re: That Maniac in the D car
Rear Drive Noise
AmpZilla...???
70 Dollars from an oil pressure answer?
Replacing the Window
Re: DeLorean advantages
Re: dmcnews-digest V2 #187 Starter Draw
Safety?
Back to the Future Generation
Rear Window Glue and Preparation
Possible DMC Purchase
Painted Letters and other Questions
Rear quarter panels, center frame and fiberglass sections available
French Renault Alpine Parts supplier
errors in Stainless Steel Illusion?
New DeLorean
chapters?
Re: DeLoreans on display
Re: New DeLorean
Heading to Ohio Soon - Drinks Anyone??
Nitto Tires
Nitto Tires
Heading to Ohio - Visits Anyone?
Sorry Guys about the Repeating Email
re: Deloreans on Display
Re: Stainless Steel Illusion / Full Fuel Tank Leaks Profile Summary: Bloody Hell,
that Maniac in the D-Car! Wanted: awesome car cheap
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From: Maniac
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 21:09:40 -0700
Subject: Vehicle Speed Sensor for cruise control
Hi,
I'd like to install my new cruise control in my automatic DeLorean, but
I don't know where I can get this VSS (Vehicle Speed Sensor). Which
one could I use, where can I get it (in Los Angeles) and where do I
install it?
Thanx,
Matt
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From: Scott Tester Date: Wed, 23 Oct
1996 00:23:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: DeLorean Article
I found a 2 page article about the Delorean in The Standard Catalog of
American Cars. In this article it has 4 pictures and a pretty good
description of the car and John DeLorean. The title reads FUTURE
COLLECTABLE 1981-1982 DeLorean DMC-12. That makes me believe that this
book was made in 1982 since it did not include 1983 Kapac. Here is the
main article: (C) SCOAC
DeLorean Sports Car ----(V-6)---- Series DMC-12----
A sleek, sophisticated sports/luxury car with a stainless steel-clad
plastic body, the controversial DeLorean DMC-12 was conceived as one
man's personal expression of the ultimate in elite automobiles,
initial conceptions of the car evolved around 1973 and were followed
by a series of complicated finantial manuevers enacted to raise
capital and establish production capability. The basic design for
the DMC-12 body came from the Italian stylist Giorgio Giugiaro in
1974. Apperance features included a slimlined frontal treatment;
gull-wing style doors; a fastback roof and kammback tail. Former
Pontiac engineer Bill Collins developed the unique DMC-12 chassis.
It utilized a overhead camshaft Renault V-6 engine, mounted at the
rear. Independent front and rear suspention and a full length back
bone frame that bolted directly to the body. The coachwork itself
was of fiberglass reinforced plastic clad in stainless steel. Power
was transmitted via a four speed Renault transaxle. Other
highlights of the design were dual rectangular quartz headlights;
integral front spoiler; turbine wheels; five speed manual
transmission and a Bosch fuel-injection system. Automatic
transmission was optional. Interior appointments were rich and
lavish, including such features as glove leather upholstery.
Scott Tester testersd(AT)appstate.campus.mci.net
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From: jason74(AT)juno.com (Jason T Brown)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 20:46:45 PST
Subject: Delorean advantages
What advantages does owning a delorean than any other car? Besides
gullwing doors.
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From: "Cadet Jeff Phillips, x4300"
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 96 22:53:08 MDT
Subject: re:Delorean advantages
If you have to ask that question I think that you are missing the point,
or you have never been around a truly unique car. Its all about watching
people's heads turn as you drive by, sometimes almost running into each
other. I know several people who have caused accidents driving sexy
cars, my stepmother used to drive a 71 Avanti, Fire engine red w/ black
leather interior. She's caused one accident and nearly two more.
The other thing is knowing that you own something that other people envy
and know very little about. It is something that came around once and we
will never see again. Each day it gets more rare. There is also a feeling
that can't be described that bonds you with the car and makes it part of
your personality.
If anyone else can add something else please feel free.
Jeff Phillips
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From: stormrider(AT)socketis.net (Chase Clark) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 00:39:10 -0500
Subject: Re: Delorean advantages
>What advantages does owning a delorean than any other car? Besides gullwing
doors.
Like Jeff Phillips just said, the DeLorean is a unique car and it is generally not
something someone rationalizes as "advantages" or "desire" to own. It is a much a
statement of a person's individuality as well as an ego boost. (Somedays I think
about what I have owned for a year, as of five days ago, and it astounds me that
I not only OWN it, but also DRIVE the DeLorean like a regular car.) This is not a
car for the meek of nature or heart. It is for people who like to stand out from
everyone else in as many ways as possible.
The brain has little to do with the decision to buy a DeLorean. It is a matter of
the heart. It is an desire that is there completely or not really at all. Once you
are up close to a DeLorean the desire will completely overwhelm you as I MUST have
it. In my case all it took was a couple of photos sent in the mail and a price I
considered a bargain for a piece of history.
If you are wondering about the advantages of a DeLorean to a regular automobile,
then don't even think of buying one. Don't compare Apples to oranges (or Windows
95 for that matter). If you are wondering about should I buy a DeLorean versus a
Lamborghini, Ferrari, Jaguar XKE or something like that in terms of an investment,
then the brain can enter into the discussion. But ONLY then. As far as estimates
on the rise of resale value in future years...it will go up. But collectible
anything is a volatile market subject to irrational swings up and down that often
defy predictions so it is not really possible to say what a DeLorean will be worth
in 10 years from now. (However, I would be surprised if the price tag isn't above
$50,000 for an average condition one by then.)
If none of this makes sense to you and sounds like gibberish, then don't worry
about a DeLorean and buy a more regular car for today such as a new BMW Z3, Miata,
Mustang or Corvette. Just my two cents worth people.
~ Chase
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From: "Gary L. Smith"
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 07:35:11 -0500
Subject: Found one for sale
I live in Fort Smith, AR and there is a DeLorean here for sale. All I know about it
is an automatic and looks good. I haven't seen it upclose yet (mainly because the
wife said if I buy on of those ugly cars she will leave me ... man am I going to
miss her!) ... seriously, I really would prefer a manual if I were to buy one. If
anyone needs more info, let me know!
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From: "Don Gowler-CFPO01" Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996
9:13:00 -0500
Subject: Cruise Control
Matt wrote: "I'd like to install my new cruise control in my automatic DeLorean, but
I don't know where I can get this VSS (Vehicle Speed Sensor). Which one could I use,
where can I get it (in Los Angeles) and where do I install it?"
Matt, I would have thought that the 'new' cruise control you bought would have come
with a VSS. If it did then all you have to do is mount the sensor on the frame near
either of the two back axles and mount the magnet(s) on the axle in a position where
the sensor can pick them up. Or did I miss something?
Regards, The Silver Fox
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From: Mike Substelny Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 10:11:48 -0400
Subject: Re: That Maniac in the D car
Wolfie said:
>Distaste, in my eyes, when it comes to the DeLorean, is the thought of seeing one
jacked up 3 feet in the air with a 4X kit, blasting out Rap music at 100Db. Distaste
NOTHING!...The thought makes me cry!
Well, that thought doesn't make ME cry. It makes me say: "Roads? Where he's going he
won't need roads!"
Or ears, for that matter, at 100 dB.
- -Mike Substelny
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From: "Don Gowler-CFPO01" Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996
10:17:00 -0500
Subject: CAR FOR SALE - ILLINOIS
Talked to an owner here today who was looking to sell her car:
1981 - VIN #07525
5 SPEED
GRAY INTERIOR
1,400 MILES
ORIGINAL OWNER
GARAGED BUT DRIVEN ONCE A MONTH FOR A FEW MILES NEW FUEL PUMP AND FILTER
ASKING $24,000 OR BEST OFFER
CALL CLAUDIA AT (847) 487-0921 / WAUCONDA (A CHICAGO N/W SUBURB)
Anywhere else I can post this for her seeing that David Takeuchi's 'DeLorean Home Page'
is no longer active?
Regards, The Silver Fox
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From: raddad(AT)cmn.net
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 09:15:43 -0600
Subject: Re: That Maniac in the D car
>Wolfie said:
>>Distaste, in my eyes, when it comes to the DeLorean, is the thought of seeing one
jacked up 3 feet in the air with a 4X kit, blasting out Rap music at 100Db. Distaste
NOTHING!...The thought makes me cry!
>Well, that thought doesn't make ME cry. It makes me say: "Roads? Where he's going
he won't need roads!"
>Or ears, for that matter, at 100 dB.
>-Mike Substelny
Further-- my DeLorean is lowered. However, living in the mountains of Colorado at the
foot of one of the worlds great ski resorts, I have this recurrring dream of winning
the lottery and then getting a second DeLorean and converting it to a 4x4 - then, not
only would I be able to drive a DeLorean 12 months of the year (as opposed to 5 1/2),
but imagine the heads turning then - - as for the music, I'd be more inclined to blast
the "Ride of the Valkyries"
Dick Ryan
The Rad Dad
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From: Devil-Wolf Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 09:32:53 -0700
Subject: Rear Drive Noise
I'm sure you've probably already found an answer, but if not I'll throw a guess in....
Wheel Bearings?
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From: Devil-Wolf Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 12:57:31 -0700
Subject: AmpZilla...???
An amplifier that replaces the wooden decking??? This sounds fascinating, does anybody
know anything else of this..???
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From: Devil-Wolf Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 13:21:06 -0700
Subject: 70 Dollars from an oil pressure answer?
Dear god, no. I've posted it several times, the replacement part number and procedure
for changing the Oil Pressure Gauge Sending Unit.
I will repost it if anyone likes. Please note that there are TWO oil pressure senders,
one for the gauge and one for the idiot light. The Idiot light, I'm sure probably
functions properly. I've never been in a situation where the light would possibly come
on, so I can't speak for it. I do know that since replacing my oil pressure Gauge sender
unit, I've had accurate consistant readings from my oil pressure gauge.
The gauge does not need to be replaced. The fix for most of you shouldn't cost $70, quite
frankly it shouldn't cost more $10 tops.
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From: Devil-Wolf Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 13:25:19 -0700
Subject: Replacing the Window
I had my windshield replaced a while back, the replacment is a perfect fit, perfect match,
down to the Bronze tinting.
I personally don't have a window antenna, but if you prefer it, I have seen window antennas
available in auto parts stores around...You could have a new window and new window antenna
with no problems.
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From: Mike Substelny Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:26:16 -0400
Subject: Re: DeLorean advantages
So far the list of advantages of owning a DeLorean has sounded very esoteric, almost poetic.
I believe there are also practical advantages. In my view, this combination is offered by no
other car in the world.
1) The stainless steel body is great. It beats any painted car for worry-free maintenance.
Sure, you can still get scratches and dents a DeLorean, but it is even easier to scratch a
Ferrari or a Taurus!
2) A DeLorean is still a pretty darn safe car. The body & frame are built like a tank, and
the safety features are outstanding.
3) Parts are still reasonable. For example, I know a new DeLorean alternator seems pretty
expensive, but have you tried to get an alternator for a new Probe or Mustang? Those prices
are outrageous! And many routine DeLorean parts can come right from the auto parts store. Try
*that* in a Lamborghinni!
4) You don't worry as much about depreciation. For the price of various used DeLoreans, you
could get a new Probe, SC2, Camaro, Mustang, 240SX, Celica, or similar car. By next year the
value of those cars will drop by thousands of dollars, but the DeLorean will still be worth
about the same. It might even go up!
5) The DeLorean is built to last a very long time. Thus many people still rely on their
DeLoreans for their main source of transportation (including me).
6) The DeLorean gets great fuel economy. All the cars in our caravan to Nashville got about
29 mpg. Sure, when you want to pull six gees (maybe 1% of your driving) a Ferrari would be
faster, but the other 99% of the time you will be glad your DeLorean gets good mileage.
Of course there are also plenty of impractical reasons for loving a DeLorean. It feels great
to get behind the wheel and close that gullwing door. It's even better to see all the heads
turn to watch as you and a lady make your grand entrance.
Another BIG bonus: Everyone who sees you in a DeLorean will remember you forever. This
includes job interviewers, business associates, customers/clients, politicians, you name
it. A DeLorean stands out like an Oscar Mayer Wiener-mobile, but it is still as graceful
and tasteful as a Mercedes or Lexus. This effect just gets better and better, because the
generation who loved Back to the Future as teenagers are today's upwardly-mobile executive-types.
- -Mike Substelny
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From: TEXASLDY22(AT)aol.com
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 17:38:36 -0400
Subject: Re: dmcnews-digest V2 #187 Starter Draw
Yes, the starter is the largest single consumer of amperage. The service book calls for
the inbrush current to be 50 to 60 amps. Solenoid pull-in voltage is 8 volts. Solenoid
holding current is 8 to 10 amps.
If you are having a slow starter problem; the most likely cause would be the ground
connection at the frame from the battery.
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From: David Tavres
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 96 14:31:21
Subject: Safety?
Thinking of safety, just how safe is the D?
Now-a-days you hear of side impact beams and roll-over protection, air bags and much
more. Obviously there aren't airbags in D's, but what protection is there?
Has anyone here every been in, or heard of any serious accidents with the D?
Also, are non-D owners able to visit local chapters? No, not in on actual meetings, but
are there any other get-togethers that one may be able to check in on?
Thanks,
Dave
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+ David Tavres
= dave(AT)vena.com
+
=Office: 408-377-2714
+
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+355-D McGlincey Ln.
=Campbell, CA
+95008
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From: prism(AT)prism-services.com
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 18:05:14 +0000
Subject: Back to the Future Generation
Recently, I just celebrated my 18th birthday and to feature my acceptance into society,
I started my own business. At this time, business is starting to move and I should be
able to purchase my first automobile by the end of the year.
I would love my first automobile to be a DeLorean. Not only does it give a sense of
success (especially for 18), but it is one of the best investments you could possibly
make. When meeting clients, it helps clear any uncertainties they may have, and it
definately leaves an impression.
But it isn't just a business tool. A DeLorean is just like any other undervalued
investment - little risk and high potential for profit. With my generation slowly
reaching our automobile purchasing years, DeLoreans will have to go up. Yes, I was
raised as a Back to the Future fan, and the movie definately left an imprint on my
opinion of the car. People my age tend to look at it as almost magical, capable of
sending you back through time with a nuclear reactor plugged in.
I believe we will be the generation to drive the DeLorean to the price it deserves.
I'm hitting this investment now, while I'm still ahead of most everybody else.
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From: Maniac
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:50:27 -0700
Subject: Rear Window Glue and Preparation
Hi,
the left rear window of my DeLorean was glued into it's place by the Pre-owner, but
fell out - luckyly to the inside - after three days!
How do I clean the steel to reattach the window? How do I prepare the steel and the
window (what chemicals) What glue do I have to use (brands?)
Thanx
Matt
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From: "Adam Scott"
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 10:25:31 +1000
Subject: Possible DMC Purchase
I was looking for a De Lorean for quite a while, and one has finally come up. However,
it is a rather overpriced RHD in England. I was wondering what an 82 model with 2,300
miles is worth? It is a factory RHD.
Also, any problems that can be checked before purchasing the car, since it will be
brought to a DMC-less country of Australia. There's no-one here who knows the car.
So any problems that need to be fixed before I can begin using the DMC for what it
was intended, Cruising for Babes.
I suppose I'd better start saving my money now, and start growing my hair. Long hair
and DMC's go together, right?
Adam Scott
DMC Aust?
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>From: Delornut(AT)aol.com
>Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 21:08:52 -0400
>Subject: Painted Letters and other Questions
>The subject of the painted letters on the rear bumper has come up in
several
>news letters. I've seen the early photos of the car with the letters left
in
>black while the surrounding rectangular area was painted grey. I've know people with
cars carrying vin numbers all over the map, anywhere from
very
>early three digit numbers to '83 models and I've yet to see a painted
rear
>bumper. My guess is that one or two were painted to expose the name
DeLorean
>in the early photos, possibly by an ad agency. Most likely some owners or dealers
followed suit to emulate the early photos. I don't belive any
ever
>left the factory that way. In the mid '80's I talked with a fellow from Kingman
Arizona who was driving a DeLorean that he swore he bought new.
It
>had cloth inserts in place of the leather on the seats and the binnacle
was
>covered with stitched vinyl that matched the rest of the dash. Obviously
some
>dealer did some customizing, maybe to make the car more appealing to the
hot
>Arizona climate. Outside of a few running changes regarding radios and
hood
>design, to mention a few, I think all DeLoreans were the same. It makes
no
>sense that a few cars were singled out and had the lettering painted or
that
>the factory had the facilities to do custom interiors. DMC's quality
concerns
>never were straightened out to the point that would allow custom features such as
these.
>Bruce Benson
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>From: dstall(AT)trib.net (D.L. Stalling)
>Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 20:40:13 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Rear quarter panels, center
frame and fiberglass sections
available
>Helps me find a home for the following.
>I just purchased the center/lower section of a DMC that had had an engine fire to
get the motor cross member.
>What I have is:
>1. driver's side rear quarter panel without plastic window with only a minor ding
in at the edge of the wheel well (It will straignten easily)
and
>the panel has a discoloration above the window opening where the plastic louver
burned. I believe the panel will cleanup great. 2. Passenger side rear quarter panel
with window with a garbage can
scrape>along wheel well and about 4-5" (as best I remember). 3. fiberglass center
floor and door section from about the edge of the front seats (actually cut across
car at center of shifter cutout)and
going
>to rear of engine compartment; the rear door frame of driver side is good and it
goes upward to about the center of the drivers seat (middle of drivers head). The
interior upper and lower fiberglass sections on the driver's side need to be
glassed and they would be good. The center section in the engine compartment is
essentially shot but it it still
there
>as is the majority of the passenger side of the door frame. There are no door
mounting "T" section or upper parts but the rear latch support stuff and one
pin is there.
>4. The frame just in front of the engine mount cross over to the front of the
center section where it is cut off with no suspension or parts other that the
steel frame which is in great condition.
>I'd like $600 for all or $400 for both rear panels. you pay or pick up in
Columbia, MO. Call me at 573-442-2795 or e-mail at: dstall(AT)mail.trib.net if
you or anyone you know of is interested.
>------------------------------
>From: dstall(AT)trib.net (D.L. Stalling)
>Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 21:00:40 -0500 (CDT) Subject: French Renault Alpine
Parts supplier
>To those with really hung up with hard parts problems:
>My two French friends from near Paris did some research for me and gave
me
>the address of an Alpine parts supplier whow supplies part to much of Europe.
One of them is an engineer and the other a research manager; therefore I think
this is the best I can do on this source.
>Meca parts, Mr Merlin
>51, avenue Beregovoy
>18000 BOURGES
>Tel : 02 48 50 70 01
>=46ax : 02 48 21 13 98
>Renault can also provide all your Alpine parts if you give the engine number
and the parts description. I don=EDt know if there is a Renault subsidiary in
USA but I can help you if you want to order some parts in =46rance.
>There is a supplier in Canada (Quebec) at St Thomas d=EDAquin which name
is
>Renaultheque. I don=EDt know the precise address for the moment but
I=EDll t=
>ry
>to find it.
>(I'll post it if it come to me).
>=46rom what I can find out, the Alpine rear transaxle/transmissions are
the
>same as the DMC except that the differential housing is flipped to allow
the motor to be behind the axles.
>P.S. Does anyone have a "scrap" 5-speed transmision with good shifting
rods or possibly bearings. I found one with water running out of the 5-speed
and I'm going to find out how bad its condition is.
>Thanks,
>Dstall(AT)mail.trib.net
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>From: "henderlong" Date: 21 Oct 1996 22:14:15 +700
>Subject: errors in Stainless Steel Illusion?
>Hello,
>I bought my copy of Stainless Steel Illusion a few weeks ago from another
list-member. I have read that there are some factual errors in the book; has
anyone compiled a list of known errors in the book, or do any of you remember
some of the errors offhand? That might be interesting material for part of a
website.
>Brian Henderlong
>DOA #4977
>VIN #next spring!
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>From: Jason Winter
>Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 21:53:15 -0500
>Subject: New DeLorean
>I got my new DeLorean home last week.. We drove it about 400 miles through New
Mexico to Texas. The car is in great shape with no dings or interior cracking.
DeLorean One finished a complete electrical upgrade the summer before(upgraded
all relays). I am now in the process of replacing coolant hoses(they were still
the original) and maybe put on new tires(3 of them are still original). The car
drove great. I still cannot believe the attention the car gets at gas stations,
etc.
>The only proble that we could find is that the fan motor(blower) makes a rattling
sound when turned past 1. I believe it is loose or something is in it. Has anyone
elso had this problem? Also when we filled it up, some gas was leaking under the
tank. It stopped after a minute. I can still smell gas after I shut the car down.
Does anyone know what problem this could be. I have read that it could be a bad
seal around the fuel sender(the gauge works, but comes to full slowly).
>Anyway, I am extreamly happy with the car and plan on driving it pretty regularly.
>I would appreciate any input on things that I need to check on the car. (we found
no frame rust, front coolant fans just replaced, and fuel filter replaced recently).
>BTW The car is a late 81-no fuel cap, has style lines, power antenna, digital clock
on console, grey leather, VIN 5203
>Jason Winter
>winter(AT)onramp.net
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>From: ShrtCrt(AT)aol.com
>Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 00:17:23 -0400
>Subject: chapters?
>What is the closest chapter to Rockford, IL. I am interested in going a chapter if
it is close enough to me. Thanks. Justin Holman
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>From: "Marvin S. Sterling" Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 03:43:29 -0700
>Subject: Re: DeLoreans on display
>Mike Substelny wrote:
>SNIP !
>>Second DeLorean
>>1983 VIN# 20040 with 3,419 miles. It is displayed with the doors closed. No gas cap
and no style lines, and the luggage lid fits nice and flush. It has a radio that says
DMC on the front (would that be ASI?). The wheels are light and the interrior is grey.
All four tires are Goodyears.
>>So now I have two questions. I have never heard of Nitto tires for the DeLorean. Does
anyone else have Nitto's on their DeLorean? And am I right when I say the radio with
the DMC logo is an ASI unit?
>>Thanks,
>>-Mike Substelny
>- -------------------------------------- Mike-
>DMC on the tape slot = ASI
>Regards
>Marv Sterling
>------------------------------
>From: "Marvin S. Sterling" Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 03:53:41 -0700
>Subject: Re: New DeLorean
>Jason Winter wrote:
>
>>The only proble that we could find is that the fan motor(blower) makes
a
>>rattling sound when turned past 1. I believe it is loose or something is in it. Has
anyone elso had this problem? Also when we filled it up, some gas was leaking under
the tank. It
>>Jason Winter
>>winter(AT)onramp.net
>- ---------------------------------------------- Jason- Welcome to the "clan"
>The noise in the blower motor is probably a bad motor, condensation tends to accumulate
in it an it rusts out ... if you need to replace it it is a standard GM Delco part.
>As for the smell of gas ... somewhere in the owner's manual and by experience I
learned never top off the tank ... stop filling when the nozzle clicks off ... anytime
that my tank is "topped off" it smells of gas for a few miles.
>Regards,
>Marv Sterling
>------------------------------
>From: Chase Clark Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 00:05:10 +0000
>Subject: Heading to Ohio Soon - Drinks Anyone??
>I will be heading out from Jefferson City, Missouri to Columbus, Ohio via I-70 on
either Wednesday or Thursday. I'm traveling out to KAPAC to pick up a new windshield
for my DeLorean and a few other little parts. I won't be taking my DeLorean, but
rather a van to transport the windshield.
>I will be at Kapac on Thursday or Friday and return home that day. I know there are
other DeLorean owners living along my general route, and was just wondering if any of
*you* people wanted to get together for a drink or something and talk shop or whatever.
If so, email me your name and number or give me a call Tuesday night or Wednesday
before noon at 573-635-0622.
>Can't wait to look around that giant inventory of parts I have heard so much about.
Once I get back, though, I'll have to call Rob Grady to get some after-market
replacement parts for things of which KAPAC no longer has remaining NOS parts.
>~ Chase
>
Stormrider Media Productions P.O. Box 105301
>Chase Clark, Co-Owner Jefferson City, Missouri
>65110-5301
>Voice/Fax (573)635-0622 Email: stormrider(AT)socketis.net
>
>"If I had a dime for every original idea Bill Gates had...
wwhy I'd have nothing!" - Christopher Meinck
>------------------------------
>From: GhesquiereTA Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:12:28 -0700
>Subject: Nitto Tires
>Several years ago I purchased a set of Nitto tires from Discount Tire in TX. The
salesman told me they were actually manufactured by Yokahama. I
>never liked the original tires' performance in rain so when a friend told
>me about Nitto tires I tried a set and have been happy with them. They were very
reasonably priced and performed much better in water/slick conditions. No
experience in snow.
>Silver Bullit
>------------------------------
>From: stormrider(AT)socketis.net (Chase Clark) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:44:59 -0500
>Subject: Heading to Ohio - Visits Anyone?
>I will be heading out from Jefferson City, Missouri to Columbus, Ohio via I-70 on
either Wednesday or Thursday. I'm traveling out to KAPAC to pick
up
>a new windshield for my DeLorean and a few other little parts. I won't be taking my
DeLorean, but rather a van to transport the windshield.
>I will be at Kapac on Thursday or Friday and return home that day. I know there are
other DeLorean owners living along my general route, and was
just
>wondering if any of *you* people wanted to get together for a drink or something and
talk shop or whatever. If so, email me your name and number or give me a call Tuesday
night or Wednesday before noon at 573-635-0622.
>Can't wait to look around that giant inventory of parts I have heard so much about.
Once I get back, though, I'll have to call Rob Grady to get some after-market
replacement parts for things of which KAPAC no longer
has
>remaining NOS parts.
>~ Chase
>-
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --
>Stormrider Media Productions P.O. Box 105301
>Chase Clark, Co-Owner Jefferson City, Missouri
65110-5301
>Voice/Fax (573)635-0622 Email: stormrider(AT)socketis.net
>-
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --
>"If I had a dime for every original idea Bill Gates had...
wwhy I'd have nothing!" - Christopher Meinck
>------------------------------
>From: stormrider(AT)socketis.net (Chase Clark) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:52:37 -0500
>Subject: Sorry Guys about the Repeating Email
>Just wanted to say "Sorry" to James and All for my handful of botched postings
(if they made it through to the list). My email program and ISP weren't
communicating very well last night and apparently it sent little bits of my message
when it looked liked it wasn't being sent at all from here. So I kept trying to
send it in Eudora and eventually switched to Navigator and sent it from there.
Macintoshes generally as very easy to
use
>and pleasant on the eyes, but the same can not always be said for ISPs
and
>the Internet.
>~ Chase
>-
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --
>Stormrider Media Productions P.O. Box 105301
>Chase Clark, Co-Owner Jefferson City, Missouri
65110-5301
>Voice/Fax (573)635-0622 Email: stormrider(AT)socketis.net
>-
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --
>"If I had a dime for every original idea Bill Gates had...
wwhy I'd have nothing!" - Christopher Meinck
>------------------------------
>From: "Eric J. Hennebury" Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 12:22:16
-0400 (EDT) Subject: re: Deloreans on Display
>Mike,
>My 1983 (vin 17065) has the ASI unit which indeed has a DMC logo on the tape deck door.
>Cheers,
>Eric
>------------------------------
>From: Mike Substelny Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 12:12:52 -0400
>Subject: Re: Stainless Steel Illusion / Full Fuel Tank Leaks
>Brian Henderlong said:
>>I have read that there are some factual errors in the book; has anyone compiled a list
of known errors in the book, or do any of you remember some of the errors offhand?
>I have never seen a list myself, but offhand I do remember one of the errors. SSI said
the early cars had no fuel door in the luggage lid but the door was added later
(actually the opposite is true).
>Jason Winter said:
>>Also when we filled it up, some gas was leaking under the tank. It stopped after a
minute. I can still smell gas after I shut the car down.
>The polyethylene gas tank itself will probably never leak, so there are only three
places a leak can happen:
>1) the fuel gauge sender
>2) the fuel pump
>3) the filler tube
>All of these are on the top of the tank, thus the advice to "never top off" is sound.
To actually find the source of the leak, remove your spare tire and open the panel
below it. This will expose all three possible leaks to view. Then drive your car to
the gas station and fill it up. You will be able to see the fuel leak from one of
these places. Wherever you see a leak tighten it up.
>My guess is the large clamp that holds the fuel pump seal in place has gotten a
little loose, causing the seal to leak a bit. Take a screwdriver with you just in
case. With any luck you can fix the leak in a couple of minutes. Good luck.
>- -Mike Substelny
>------------------------------
>From: Devil-Wolf Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 12:52:21 -0700
>Subject: Profile Summary: Bloody Hell, that Maniac in the D-Car!
>Well, I've been a traveller just about all my life. As a child, my father was in
the navy and consequently I started travelling rather young.
>I was born in Darwin, Australia, which is where my father was from (although you'd
never know it to look at me that I'm Australian, nor to hear me,
>although I use to have a rather strong accent it's all but dissapeared and
>rarely comes through unless I've been drinking)
II enjoy a good tastfull argument, science, physics, metaphysics, theories, debating
reality, etc. I've 5'9", have brown/blackish eyes, waist length black hair, I always
wear a black long sleeve shirt with black slacks, black overshirt, my black
>comfortable dress casual shoes, black cushy socks, my black leather jacket and
>black fadora. I also read, write, and love TASTEFULL music and poetry, and
>spend a lot of time in coffee shops. Think beatnik/hippie and you've probably
>got a good idea of what I look like.
>I purchased my DeLorean not more then 2 or 3 years ago, and would not trade it for
anything. I actually plan on buying a second here shortly.
Black
>Interior Stick would be nice, now that I know what i'm looking for,
(looking out
>for in regards to the DeLorean. I know how to spot problems now)
SSo many stories I've heard, I consider myself one of the lucky ones to have found
one in great condition from someone who took good care of it.
I
>mention to members of the PNDC and hear nothing about good things about
the man
>I bought it from and how he took care of it.
DDistaste, in my eyes, when it comes to the DeLorean, is the thought of seeing one
jacked up 3 feet in the air with a 4X kit, blasting out Rap
music at
>100Db. Distaste NOTHING!...The thought makes me cry!
CCan you say Sacrilege?
>Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against modifications, I've done many
>myself and detest being told I've ruined the car by putting in a new
stereo and
>cruise control. But please, some taste...If rap music is what you want
to hear,
>listen to it yourself, don't make everyone else listen to it..and is
there
>REALLY a need to pit a 4X kit on a DeLorean???
II fancy myself to be quite adept when it comes to electronics in general. Although
I'm a mediocre programmer, I'm excellent with the
hardware
>and interface. Believe it or not, some imagination goes into even
standard
>computer parts, I can jerry-rig anything to work and I invite anybody to challenge
me on that... 8^)
>Naturally this superman-like ability to convince things to work doesn't relate only
to computers, it comes in handy in many aspects, of which the
>DeLorean counts.
>I don't mind improvising to make things work. I spend the majority of my time on
the computer as you've probably guessed by now. Expanding and tasking my mind to
it's limits. I have
several
>computers set up to work off this one keyboard and monitor and two others
>running their independant interfaces. They're almost always being used,
each
>and every one of them.
>I've always taken an interest in artificial intellegence. Albeit my efforts
mediocre I do enjoy dablling in my own programs. I've grown
attached to
>one in particular which I've modified slightly and been pushing along for
years
>now. "Locutus" has a wonderful personality and can just about operate
himself.
>He'll call up anything I ask for, by use of a program interface to a
voice
>recognition program. I haven't fitten him with a voice, currenly, I
haven't
>decided on a voice I like yet.
>I DO name my computers, yes, and I take into consideration how it acts when
naming it. Locutus is the server for all my computers and the most powerful
of them. Marvin is slow and obnixious. Hal speaks, but tends
to lock
>up frequently, going on with it's on calculations and refusing to listen
to me.
>Well, you get the idea.
>I adore and pamper unwanted things. Many computers I don't use daily are
elder, lower capacity computer that nobody wants. I take emotion to
things
>unwanted. Things once adored by people.
TThe ford that once was a teenagers first car, the computer onced used daily.
Auto Junkyards really touch my heart, so sad to see so many
beautiful
>machines that were once loved and adored by someone, now sitting
abandoned and
>unwanted.
>hmmmm, dear me, I've run out of things to say...Imagine that..hehehe At
any rate, I appologize for the delay. I've just now getting to mailings
from 10/9
>------------------------------
>From: "W. Matthew Sullivan" Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996
23:16:26 +0000
>Subject: Wanted: awesome car cheap
>To all my fellow DeLorean fans-
>I'm a poor college student who is currently DeLorean-less. I'm wondering if
there's anyone out there who has (or knows someone who does) a DeLorean that
I could obtain. Like I said, I'm poor, so I'm looking for something that I
can restore myself- and thereby become the envy of all who know me. [I'm in
New England.] Thanks for your help-
WW. Matthew Sullivan
>URI - Union Express
>50 Lower College Rd., Unit #3477
>Kingston, RI 02881-1960
>USA
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