DeLorean Mailing List - 10/31/96
dmcnews-digest Thursday, 31 October 1996 Volume 02 : Number 192
In this issue:
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Re: Alternator belts and air conditioner Re: DeLorean photo page?
Re: Headlights not attached to buzzer?
Re: DeLorean pix
Popping out to say hello?
Re: DeLorean photo page?
Repairs Underway - Door and Belts
Re: Headlights not attached to buzzer?
Just bought a Delorean
[none]
Help Needed on Engine Light Switch
Re: Delorean Pictures
REQ: Repost the A/C Illumination Fix
Re: buzzer & keys
DeLorean prototype in a museum?
Heater control panel lights
DMC safety / Accidents
slipping clutch
Part For Sale - Power Mirror Switch
Re: DMC safety / Accidents
Re: slipping clutch
DMC in Houston
obits
Misc. ramblings
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From: stormrider@socketis.net (Chase Clark) Subject: Re: Headlights not attached
to buzzer?
>Shouldn't the headlights set off the buzzer if the key is out of the ignition?
Mine don't!
Mike:
I was planning on reattaching my buzzer unit in the near future and was wondering
if you ever got a straight answer to yoru question. Just curious if it only comes
on when the doors are open, or if it sounds an alarm for other things like the
headlights being left on?
~ Chase
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From: john oksanish Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 12:22:27
-0500
Subject: Re: dmcnews-digest V2 #191
>With Takeuchi's DeLorean Home Page in a comatose state for the past six months,
I hope to be setting up my own DMC-12 web site within a month. I believe I only
get 2 MB from my ISP to work with (not a lot).
If you need more space go to "http://www.dragonfire.net" . They offer 25 FREE meg
of space to anyone, and even more if they see fit. I got an acct. there, as did
my friend. Just figured to let you know.
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jack!
jmoksani@student.umass.edu
C'est la B'est
Only $12.98 + tax???
Please! Check out my web page (It'slightly crippled, though):
"http://www-vms.oit.umass.edu/~jmoksani/index.html" (it's a li'l betta))
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From: Mike Substelny Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 10:04:22 -0500
Subject: Re: Alternator belts and air conditioner
Kevin said:
>Unfortunately last night the alternator belt broke on my way home and I am in
the need of a replacement.
Yikes! Driving without an alternator can be quite unnerving, especially in an
electricity-hungry car like the DeLorean! Obviously you can get a perfectly
correct belt in the mail from any of the normal channels, but I don't blame you
for wanting an immediate solution!
Before Nashville I stopped at a local auto parts store and asked on a whim if
they had any DeLorean belts in stock. They guy laughed, but he checked anyway.
We were both surprised to see that they *did* have them! I don't know a
manufacturer or model number, but Kovachi Brothers auto parts in Middleburgh
Heights Ohio (a really tiny store) had DeLorean belts in stock. If you can't
wait for an OEM belt from DeLorean One, Kapac, DMC Houston, PJ Grady, etc., then
get on the phone to all your local parts stores until you find someone with a
cross listing.
But if you try an aftermarket belt please let us know if it actually works.
We've been burned before.
Joel Matos said:
>Recently every time a drive my D after 40 minutes the A/C turn off automatically.
I been asking for a electrical updates for the D several times. Please somebody
can help me
Richard Strecker answered:
>Have your system checked, you are low on FREON.
Chase answered:
>One of the first things to check would be if the A/C circuit breaker has been
upgraded to a 40 amp breaker instead.
My answer is, in the immortal words of Doc Brown:
"No, this sucker is electrical."
Sorry Richard, but I have to go with Chase on this one. When My A/C was low on
Freon it refused to come on at all. However, many DeLorean owners (including me)
have experienced the "fan quits after 40 minutes syndrome." In my case it happened
even with the A/C turned off.
Note that circuit breakers are triggered by heat, which is generated by current.
When system voltage is low many components (like blower motors) draw more current.
If you drive a DeLorean with a Ducillier alternator and have everything switched on
the voltage in every component will be lower than spec. End effect: circuit breakers
triggering themselves when there is no short. Thus Chase's recommendation to upgrade
your circuit breaker.
- -Mike Substelny
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From: ausmith@pdx.oneworld.com
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 07:29:54 +0000
Subject: Re: DeLorean photo page?
Hi group,
>A week or so ago, someone told about some DeLorean photos they had just posted
to www.xis.net/~hansolo/delorean.html. As of yesterday, I was getting "Not Found"
messages ...
That is actually a correct address and I've no idea why it doesn't work. I just
tried it and got the same result. Belongs to Joel Baum. Oh well.
Here's a couple of others;
http://www.goodnet.com/~mikasa/superdmc.html
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/RSRodgers ( look at "Worth?" in this one.)
Don't you guys have access to a search engine?
Chris
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From: stormrider@socketis.net (Chase Clark) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:54:35 -0600
Subject: Re: Headlights not attached to buzzer?
>Shouldn't the headlights set off the buzzer if the key is out of the ignition?
Mine don't!
Mike:
I was planning on reattaching my buzzer unit in the near future and was wondering
if you ever got a straight answer to yoru question. Just curious if it only comes
on when the doors are open, or if it sounds an alarm for other things like the
headlights being left on?
~ Chase
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From: Mike Substelny Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:32:16 -0500
Subject: Re: DeLorean pix
No one seems to be able to access the DeLorean pictures on the "hansolo" page that
was given a couple of weeks ago.
I can't get at them either. However, the day the address was posted I *did* visit
the page(s) and see the pictures. The correct address was:
http://www.xis.com/~hansolo/delorean.html
I have no idea what happened to the site since then.
- -Mike Substelny
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From: Devil-Wolf Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 14:12:22 -0800
Subject: Popping out to say hello?
You shouldn't need to remove your stereo to get to your light switch, in fact,
that whole climate control console will come off without having to bother
the stereo at all. Pull your climate control knobs off and you'll reveal the
screws that hold your panel on.
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From: Dan Baisley Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 18:17:09 -0500
Subject: Re: DeLorean photo page?
On Sun, 27 Oct 1996, Chase Clark wrote:
>>A week or so ago, someone told about some DeLorean photos they had just posted to
www.xis.net/~hansolo/delorean.html. As of yesterday, I was getting "Not Found" messages ...
>I get the same response when trying to access the site using the above address.
>~ Chase
I believe I've found it at http://www.xis.com/~hansolo/delorean.html, but their
web server appears to be all funked up. I did an altavista search for
www.xis.com and found several people with homepages there, but none of them
seem to work. You can see the root site at http://www.xis.com, but none of the
user pages. Anyone want to e-bair their webmaster and see what's up?
CYA,,
Dan Baisley
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From: stormrider@socketis.net (Chase Clark) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 00:11:40 -0600
Subject: Repairs Underway - Door and Belts
Well, I have finally got enoug nerve to tackle a number of repairs on my car. OK,
actually the DeLorean FORCED me to get my butt in gear. I noticed the alternator/
water pump/crankshaft belt was stripping pretty badly and went ahead and replaced
it today. Talk about EASY!!!! I removed the bolt on
the alternator bracket and tilted it inward. The old belt came off and we put the
new belt on the alternator and crankshaft pulleys first and worked it onto the
water pump pulley last. Then we used a bar to pry the alternator back outward to
tighten the belt and re-attached the bolt on the bracket. About a 10 minute job.
Talk about easy!! BTW, do not drive without an alternator belt anyone. This belt
also works the water pump and you would be asking for trouble if you went for more
than a few minutes withoutthe belt.
I also got brave enough to tackle my driver's door today. Or at least begin
it. Suprisingly the entire assembly is rather easy to access, including the
removal of the lower trim panel. I found out that a previous owner or two had
removed all my lock rods but one and that it had been broken and had a clothes
hanger wire cut and taped to the missing end. I'm not joking!! Well, I had three
new rods, but discovered a need three more rods and called KAPAC/DeLorean Depot
today to order new rods. All said and done I will have about $75 invested in this
door to replace nuts and bolts, black trim pieces, A/C vent outlet, vent ring, and
the lock linkage rods.
The story is even funnier because their is nothing wrong with the lock solenoid! It
functions normally. The problem was with the replacement steel door handle not being
secured well and rods jiggling around and loosening until the door wouldn't open. The
early '81 DMCs used linkage rods that were much more adjustable than the later rods
which are adjustable at only one end, not both. Oh well, I expect I'll have the
door back together by the middle of next week and it will look/function as good
as new for the first time since I've
owned it.
~ Chase
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From: "Michael E. Gaines" Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 07:05:45 -0500
Subject: Re: Headlights not attached to buzzer?
Chase,
From what I understand, the headlights are NOT attached to the buzzer. There's
supposedly a product for cars that hooks up to the fuse box, but I haven't seen
it. I'll be speaking with Rob Grady about it soon and I'll let everyone know.
It's not even just the headlights, but the dome lights as well that I'm concerened
about.
Mike
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From: k6046@mail.vistec.net
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 22:28:10 +0000
Subject: Just bought a Delorean
Hello,
I just bought a DeLorean with the number #4949. The odometer shows only
14000 miles...but who knows....... The preowner imported it from Texas. He told me
the car was owned by an american manufacturer of stainless steel kitchens and
stuff. For him, the car was just a gag. So he left the car outside in the sun for
8 years. You can imagine, that the leather, that was reached by the sun looks like
fire burned. Moreover the car needs some work..... The small pillows (don't know
the right name - the ones you always hit, when you step into the car) an both sides
are broken. I got the idea to exchange them with a soft material. What did all the
other DeLorean drivers do ? Or am I the only one, who is too stupid to step in his
DeLorean without hitting these parts ? Does anyone have experience with a hard
working steering ? Turning the steering weel is very hard, and after turning around
a corner, the steering wheel does not come back alone. I lifted up the car... I did
not find any tracks of an accident.
Unfortunatly I think, we do not have a service for DeLoreans like in
the US (i.e. DeLorean One.....).
Or am I wrong ?
I really would like to give my car to a specialist for a perfect restoration.
Arne
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 18:45:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: [none]
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1996 17:55:02 -0500
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Subject: Dallas D's?
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Any owners lurking in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area? If so, whom do you have do
your routine maintinance? Also, any suggestions on what insurance company to
go through?
Thanks
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From: stormrider@socketis.net (Chase Clark) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 23:59:56 -0600
Subject: Help Needed on Engine Light Switch
I have finally got around to trying to diagnose why my engine compartment light
remains on ALL the time if a light bulb is installed in it. No matter if the little
plunger switch to the engine cover was depressed on not had no effect on the light.
But I went ahead and removed the switch and cleaned it up. FYI, the switch is
located on the left side on a metal bracket toward the back of the engine compartment
(closest to the passenger compartment).
I noticed that only one set of wires were connected to the switch (a pair of black
wires joined together). There is a capacitor or some other electrical device located
just to the right of the switch and on one of the plugs was a purple and white wire.
I also noticed a purple/white wire attached to the light socket. When I remove this
wire the light went off, so I attached it over to the plunger switch and sure enough
all is working again.
However, I am hoping someone will do me a favor and take the time to look at their
plunger switch and inform me of the wiring setup on it. I have two black wires on
one side and the purple/white wire on the other side now. Is this correct??
Thanks everyone!
~ Chase
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From: hansolo@xis.com (Joel Baum)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 23:15:27 -0500
Subject: Re: Delorean Pictures
Wow, I didn't think there was that much demand for my pictures. Here is what happened.
My ISP moved the server (physically) to a new location and in the process screwed some
stuff up, or so I'm told. The pages will hopefully return by this weekend, and I will
post to the list when this happens. I appologize for the inconvience...
--Joel
Joel Baum
hansolo@xis.com
Joel Baum's Home Page
http://www.xis.com/~hansolo/
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From: stormrider@socketis.net (Chase Clark) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:57:16 -0600
Subject: REQ: Repost the A/C Illumination Fix
Someone had emailed me requesting the information on the lighting workaround for
the centre console (A/C) illumination so that the five little lights don't stay on
all the time. I can't find my detailed instructions to do this "update," so would
anyone with the instructions handy, please repost it to the list!?!
Thanks!
~ Chase
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From: "Marvin S. Sterling" Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 03:27:44
-0800
Subject: Re: buzzer & keysdmcnews-approval@world.std.com wrote:
>Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:54:35 -0600
>To: dmcnews@world.std.com
>From: stormrider@socketis.net (Chase Clark) Subject: Re: Headlights not attached
to buzzer?
>>Shouldn't the headlights set off the buzzer if the key is out of the ignition?
Mine don't!
>Mike:
>I was planning on reattaching my buzzer unit in the near future and was wondering
if you ever got a straight answer to yoru question. Just curious if it only comes
on when the doors are open, or if it sounds an alarm for other things like the
headlights being left on?
>~ Chase
==============================
Chase, the answer to both questions is no. The only buzzer that went off was the
seat belt buzzer.
Regards,
Marv
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From: Mike Substelny Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 09:18:00 -0500
Subject: DeLorean prototype in a museum?
Chase asked for:
>A list of museums where DeLoreans are on display as well as . . .
This callled to mind a book I have on American Car Museums, which shows that a lot
of museums (I think 15) have DeLoreans in their collections. I have visited a few
of them, and only about half actually display their DeLorean (the rest keep it in
storage, I guess).
According to that book there is a museum in Southern California (SanDiego or
Escondido, I think) that claims to have a *1977* DeLorean! Is my book wrong, or
does someone have a DeLorean prototype in their collection? That would be pretty
exciting to see! If anyone has seen the car in SanDiego or Escondido please let
me know.
- -Mike Substelny
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From: ausmith@pdx.oneworld.com
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 07:01:03 +0000
Subject: Heater control panel lights
If you want your control panel lights off unless your headlights are on do this.
Put a 1/4" male spade connector on each end of a 2 1/2" jumper wire. Looking at
the relays behind the passenger seat, in with the fuses, pull the third one from
the left in the row closest to the rear of the car. You should have a red one,
three silver ones and a tall green one. Pull the middle silver one. Put one end
of the wire you made in the lower slot ( closest to the other row of relays ) and
the other end in the slot to the right. After this modification your heater control
panel lights will come on with your headlights.
Chris
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From: backissues@dmcnews.com (Ian)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 18:24:00 +0000
Subject: DMC safety / Accidents
I am *very* impressed with the stories that have been told about the saftfy of the
DeLorean. I was under the assumption that since the DMC was a low-slung GT car that
being hit (especially from the rear) was very dangerous. You learn something new
every day.
And now, on to the questions:
On Thu, 24 Oct 1996, Chris wrote:
>The facia needed to be repainted because of compression fractures in the paint.
Wow, the facia had no structural bends / breaks? Even thought the hit was hard enough
to shoot your grill into traffic, all the StainlessS was untouched? Impressive. The
facia is a fiberglass / composite mold right?
Michael Gaines wrote:
>I got rammed at
>about 20 MPH. Her Toyota's front end was completely destroyed. Her hood was
crumpled like cardboard. She hit me so hard that pieces of her front headlights
were shot over two lanes. My DeLorean has not an external scratch. If you looked
at my car you wouldn't know that it was in an accident. VERY close inspection will
show imperfections, but I'm damn impressed by the DeLorean's safety design.
I have seen low speed impacts (15-30mph) with those small toyota's and Honda's.
They seem to have the mentality to fall apart if you look at them the wrong way.
To bad I can't get my dad to believe that the DeLroean is as safe as it is... his loss
- -Ian
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From: sundiver@hellfire.dusers.drexel.edu (J Ferrara) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996
14:48:48 -0500
Subject: slipping clutch
My clutch started slipping recently. Give the car a lot, of gas, and the engine
speeds up but the car doesn't. The thing that I find strange is that the clutch
(and pressure plate) is only 2 years (30K miles) old. I don't drive the car hard,
and would expect the clutch to last longer than that. Is there something that
could be wrong besides a worn out clutch that could be causing this? Something
in the hyraulics perhapse. I know it's supposed to be self adjusting, but the
service manual is a little vague on how it's supposed to work.
I'd like to investigate other possiblities before attempting to remove the
transmission.
Thanks
- - J
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From: stormrider@socketis.net (Chase Clark) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 00:17:19 -0600
Subject: Part For Sale - Power Mirror Switch
Well, while at KAPAC/DeLorean Depot I picked up a part I thought I needed and have
since discovered I really don't. My power mirror adjuster switch on the driver's
door panel quit working shortly after I purchased my DeLorean. I assumed the switch
itself had gone bad, but such is not the case. One of the eight wires attached to
it had slid off its connector. I reattached it and the switch has slowlyt come back
to life. I briefly tried
out the new switch I had bought and it works even better.
The switch cost me around $55 I believe. If anyone needs one and is interested in
buying it from me, drop me a line in the next few days. I'm willing to sell it or
the old one for less than my actual purchase price. I got a huge discount on the
windshield and a couple of other items so it's not that big a deal to me if I sell
it for a loss or keep it. BTW, Jerry and Jane (of KAPAC) if you are listening,
THANKS A LOT FOR EVERYTHING!
~ Chase
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From: ausmith@pdx.oneworld.com
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 12:42:52 +0000
Subject: Re: DMC safety / Accidents
>Wow, the facia had no structural bends / breaks? Even thought the hit was hard
enough to shoot your grill into traffic, all the StainlessS was untouched? Impressive.
The facia is a fiberglass / composite mold right?
Ian,
Actually the facia is a plastic that's like what you see on the "new" cars in place
of bumpers and other items that are likely to be damaged by extremely low speed
impacts. If you push on it with a finger it gives. It's backed up by varying
densities of foam as I remember that cushions impact yet returns to its' original
configuration. It works very well.
Chris
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From: Mike Substelny Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 15:34:00 -0500
Subject: Re: slipping clutch
J. Ferrara said:
>My clutch started slipping recently. Give the car a lot of gas, and the engine
speeds up but the car doesn't. The thing that I find strange is that the clutch
(and pressure plate) is only 2 years (30K miles) old.
Can you please describe any sounds you hear when this happens? When my the clutch
in my Blazer was going bad the first signs were when I had trouble getting it
rolling after a stop light.
I thought my DeLorean clutch was bad over the summer. It turned out to be worn
out splines on a stub axle. (Wierd, huh?) My original clutch is still going
strong at 52,000 miles.
Good luck.
- -Mike Substelny
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From: Michael Fischer Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 17:49:56 -0700
Subject: DMC in Houston
Another DML lurker here,
I just returned from a trip to Houston (from Calgary AB, Canada) and I managed to
fit in a trip to DeLorean Motor Company whilest I was there. There were many D's
there, one they were doing a frame repair, it has been damaged and rusted in an
earlier accident, some in various stages of restoration, one with a couple hundred
thousand miles getting and engine rebuild, but of course the restored ready to
go/sell ones were there and what a treat, there was an '81 waiting to have a new
windshield (with antenna in it) installed. The was a ferrari red D in there too,
and personally I prefer the SS, but this one looked very good. And 83 with the name
plate on the hood, and the most puzzling of all and '81 with the gas door in the
hood, but it also had a mast antenna on the right front fender. (I thought that
surely and obviously early '81 would have had the windsheild antenna) And of the
the coup de grasse, was of course, DeLorean #502, the factory prototype twin-turbo,
looked like and '81 (flap in hood) but had gold rims, four gold plaques stating
"Factory Prototype Twin-Turbo" (one on each side), a power antenna in the left rear
window, and possibly the best looking thing I've ever seen on a D, was the twin
scoops replacing the puny air intakes in the back corners of the rear-windows, they
really gave the D an aggressive bad-boy look.
Stephen Wynne was extremely knowledgable, and very personable, generously taking and
hour and a half to show me around and discuss the D's with me. And even better, he
was nice enough to take me for a ride in his personal DeLorean. If he had had a
Canadian model D there that day, it would have been going home with me, as it is
it took every ounce of will-power to not take one home. (except 502, that took a
quick look at the check-book) Obviously, you can tell I'm looking for a nice Canadian
model D, does anyone know of one around? Finally, I'm not sure it's my place to
mention this, but Mr. Wynne informed my that they are in the final stages of setting
up their Web presence.
All in all, the high point of a week's trip through Texas. - --
+-----------+------------------------------+------------+
|___________| Michael.Fischer@pipe.nova.ca |____________|
| "This isn't fun! I've had fun! This isn't it!" |
+-------------------------------------------------------+
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From: dgf108@psu.edu (Damien Falato)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 22:46:03 -0500
Subject: obits
If this get's to here I would like to dispell it in advance. Someone has started
a rummor that I'm dead. I am alive and well thank you. O.K., maybe
just alive. This began this morning with a call from the paper that someone
had phoned in a prank obituary in my name. Whoever it was, was cute enough
to even use my birthday as the day of departure. If any of you have heard this it
is completely false.
"Rummors of my death have been greatly exagerated."
Damien Falato
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From: stormrider@socketis.net (Chase Clark) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 21:55:03 -0600
Subject: Misc. ramblings
Dave:
Well, it looks like you have your choice of email instructions on how to do
the A/C illumination modification (with today's DMC List). It is actually very
simple and was one of the first changes I made to my DeLorean.
I haven't checked into the wrecked DeLorean up at Holts Summit yet. It's been
there for five years now, so I am not too afraid it will be swiped up by someone
tomorrow. Maybe on Friday or early next week I will have the time and inclination
to go up there and investigate it further.
Looks like my engine light is working now. Just had to move that one wire over to
the bracket and it no longer remains "hot" all the time. Ordered a new bulb from
KAPAC yesterday since I had to get another three lock rods for my driver's door.
Turns out some previous owner removed all the rods but one and it was broken. Go
figure. If you want to see the inside of a DMC door let me know. Mine will be
disassembled until at least the middle of next week. Taking it apart and working
within the door's frame really isn't as tough as everyone makes it sound. I'm also
replacing a LOT of machine screws that had worked themselves loose or been lost by
previous owners within the door, as well as replacing the tailight screws and some
black interior screws with similar stainless steel screws instead. I call it a
feeble attempt to highlight my painted D in stainless steel.
~ Chase
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Please email me at your earliest convenience, I have lost your email addresses.
Thanks!
James Espey
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From: stormrider@socketis.net (Chase Clark) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 01:23:05 -0600
Subject: Re: DMC in Houston
>the most puzzling of all and '81 with the gas door in the hood, but it also had
a mast antenna on the right front fender. (I thought that surely and obviously
early '81 would have had the windsheild antenna)
Simple enough to explain I believe. It is probably an '81 that had the windshield
antenna. Perhaps it was in a wreck and the windshield and right fender had to be
replaced. Since I think the only fenders left all have the
antenna hole cut into the fender and no new windshields with antenna tape exist,
it may have been decided to cover up the hole in the fender by putting the
antenna there.
I may not have all my facts straight here, but from talking to Jerry Rine at
KAPAC/DeLorean Depot I learned that they never had any original left OR right
front fenders. The only front fenders they received after buying out the remaining
DMC parts back in 1982 (or '83?) were the RF fenders with the
antenna holes in them. The company in France that stamped out the body panels
decided on its own the antenna should be mounted there and cut the holes into them
without DMC's permission. John DeLorean was not the least bit happy about this and
threw all those "imperfect" fenders aside and refused to use them. Hence, they
ended up in crates a few months later and were shipped to Ohio where they remain
to this day.
Just a little bit of the ever convoluted history of the DMC-12 for you.
~ Chase
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