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Wednesday, October 1 1997 Volume 03 : Number 286
In this issue:
Re: DML: electrical problems.
DML: cam shaft life of prv6
Re: DML: Alternator - - Wiring
DML: RE: Air Filters & Antennae
DML: Key blanks
DML: fuel accumulator
Re: DML: Diodes
Re: DML: DeLoreans meet in Cincinnati in 1998!!!
DML: Source for DMC Typeface
DML: Fuse Box Overheating and Shorts
Re: DML: Key blanks
DML: any RHD for sale?
DML: Oct. 12 10:00 am Auction: DeLorean and Avanti
Re: DML: Fuse Box Overheating and Shorts
Re: DML: DMC/Bricklin Car Show
DML: WTB: DeLorean (duh) in Southern California area
Re: DML: Key blanks
DML: Lotus V8?
DML: DeLorean Happening, Columbus, Ohio (10/31/97-11/2/97)
DML: Re: Key blanks
Re: DML: Re: Key blanks
Re: DML: Key blanks
Re: DML: any RHD for sale?
Re: DML: any RHD for sale?
DML: The repair saga continues
DML: "Delorean grey"
Re: DML: Fuse Box Overheating and Shorts
DML: radiator hose ID # (left side)
DML: ADMIN NOTE: Subscriber Count
Re: DML: "Delorean grey"
Re: DML: The repair saga continues
Re: DML: Re: Key blanks
DML: RE: "Delorean grey"
DML: Regarding the "Unzustellbar!" messages
DML: New DeLorean Owner with Questions
DML: What a DeLorean key (or anything else) looks like
Re: DML: Re: Key blanks
DML: Re: What a DeLorean key (or anything else) looks like
Re: DML: What a DeLorean key (or anything else) looks like
DML: DeLorean PowerBook Owners
RE: DML: any RHD for sale?
DML: How to finish stainless steel?
Re: DML: "Delorean grey"
DML: '81 FOR SALE
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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 97 19:01:41 PDT
From: "Brandon S. Moody"
Subject: Re: DML: electrical problems.
> I'm having electrical problems. One is that no matter what I select
> (defrost, heater or vent) The air comes out the vents. Another is the air
> circulating fan and the cooling fan are cycling on and off randomly. Just
> before they go on , the cooling fan light flashes.
> (It's kind of an interesting conversation piece!)
> Has anyone experienced this ?
> and are there solutions that don't require rewiring the car ?
First of all, your > (defrost, heater or vent) The air comes out the
vents
problem
is NOT electrical. All dampers are vacuum controlled. Problem can
be different places but most of the time its the selector switch itself.
Check
for vacuum leaks, hisssss !!!!!! The cooling fan problem is probably
caused by the fact that you probably still have the little blue fan fail
module installed.
- -Brandon
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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 22:23:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: Buster Bunny
Subject: DML: cam shaft life of prv6
I've heard from several places (volvo dealer, volvo mechanics, FAQs,
etc..) that the prv6 engine has a problem with camshaft wear. Do any
Delorean owners have any comments on this? Has anyone had to replace
their cam shaft before?
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Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 10:24:29 -0500
From: Jameel Ahed
Subject: Re: DML: Alternator - - Wiring
DEAR DML,
Does anybody know which wire goes to which pin on the delco
alternator????? Please write back soon cuz I am hurting for this
information.
Sincerely,
Jameel
Don Gowler-CFPO01 wrote:
> >>He asked "WHich color wire to Pin 1 and which color wire to
> >>Pin 2????"
> >
> >>Answer: The red wire goes to Pin 1.
> > The green wire goes to Pin 2.
> >
> >>Aldo Buono
> _________________________________________________
> Other than the 3 very heavy gauge brown wires that go to the one large
>
> contact on the Motorola alternator I have only one other connecting
> wire
> and it is brown with a yellow stripe (approx. 20 gauge). Aldo, where
> are you getting these other wires????
>
> The Silver Fox
- --------------------------------------------------
Jameel Ahed CEO of CyberTECH Industries
Consultant for VOITECH Computer Solutions
HOMEPAGE: http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~ahed/
VOITECH: http://www.voitech.com
EMAIL: mailto:ahed@uiuc.edu
- --------------------------------------------------
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Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 12:09:28 -0400
From: Steve Shortz
Subject: DML: RE: Air Filters & Antennae
Hello,
I have many, new original DMC parts. I do have one power antenna kit
left. It is the original kit.
Steve
s.shortz@mci2000.com
>From: JIGAWTZ@aol.com [SMTP:JIGAWTZ@aol.com]
>Sent: Thursday, September 25, 1997 2:11 AM
>To: dmcnews-digest@world.std.com
>Subject: DML: Air Filters & Antennae
>
>I have a DeLorean and I am having trouble finding a
>K&N Air Filter, does anyone know of any interchangeable
>fliters from that brand...they are superior quality..also does anyone
>have a power antennae they are willing to sell?
>Jigawtz@aol.com
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Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 16:14:51 -0500
From: "Travis H. Graham"
Subject: DML: Key blanks
When I bought my De Lorean it came with two generic key copies, but it =
did not come with an original key. I now have a few original De Lorean =
key blanks. What does it take to get them cut (so that they work)? The =
first locksmith I went to used a grinder and screwed one up :( !!! I =
heard that it was a Volvo style key, but the Volvo dealer said it =
wasn't. Does anyone know what other car the key goes to?
Thanks,
Travis #6344
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Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 15:28:08 -0500
From: mhtexcollins@juno.com
Subject: DML: fuel accumulator
Did someone say that one could change the accumulator from above? I
heard that it was suggested here. Would that be less trouble than
lifting it ? Is any of this in the workshop manual? Any help would be
greatly appreciated. I really like this forum.
PS Is there any way to roll up the window if I cant afford a repair to
the regulators right now?
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Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 17:36:24 +0000
From: James Nichols
Subject: Re: DML: Diodes
Richard Strecker asked about placing a diode across his clock leads. A
one amp 50 volt diode should be adequate, since the spike is negative
and the diode is being forard biased and conducting and thus shorting
out the spike. Normally it just sits there being reversed biased with
12 to 15 volts and not conducting. Just connect the banded end to the
positive lead and the non banded end to the negative lead and insulate
the positive side. This would undoubtedly eliminate a negative spike
(really recuce it to 0.6 Volt), but you might want to reduce it at it's
source too, probably the magnet that engages the compressor cluch.
Wow! I thought that I had big spikes that would jump the tach 500 RPM
or so, but I never had one strong enough to reset my clock. A lot of
voltage can be generated when a big inductor collapses, like a
compressor cluch magnet. Remember the old viberator radios that would
produce an 85 volt plate voltage from a 6 volt source?
I installed a 2.5 amp 400 volt diode (a 50 volt would have worked just
as well, but this is the one I had), banded side to the compressor
supply wire and non banded side to a convenient grounded screw that
holds the wire bracket in place.
1. Just free the supply wire
2. Remove a half inch of insulation from the wire about two inches from
the screw near the pulley (use 2/3 the length of the diode leads for a
measurement).
3. Solder the banded end in place on the wire
4. Attach the nonbanded end under the screw that holds the wire clip
near the pulley
5. Slip some heat shrink over it shrink it.
6. Reattach the supply wire to the pigtail from the harness.
Now when the compressor cuts off the tach smooooooothly increases 200 or
so RPM, no jumps at all.
I did check the wiring diagram and only one diode shows. It's used to
turn on the fans when the compressor is powered. The wiring harness in
the manuals list eight diodes, four three amp and two one amp. Does
anyoue know what they do? There are numerous capacitors in the wiring
diagram. Most seem to be wired as bypass or filter capacitors, and
several are wired across the brushes of DC motors (mirror motors) to
reduce arcing and noise. One is from alternator output to ground to
elimilate alternator whine. Most of the capacitators were single digit
(less than 10 MFD) and would not be capable of absorbing much of a
voltage spike. The fans shutting off do not seem to be a problem, but
I'll find out more after I drive at night with the lights on.
Jim #6884
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Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 13:51:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: KKoncelik@aol.com
Subject: Re: DML: DeLoreans meet in Cincinnati in 1998!!!
SPECIAL NOTE
ALTERNATE HOTEL ARRANGEMENTS ARE AVAILABLE
I HAVE HAD MANY REQUESTS. THE WESTIN IS THE NICEST DOWNTOWN HOTEL BUT I
HAVE
MADE ARRANGEMENTS FOR SOME PEOPLE TO STAY AT THE COMFORT SUITES ABOUT 5
MINUTES AWAY. PRICES VARY DEPENDING ON PARTY SIZE BUT IS ABOUT HALF THE
WESTIN
KKONCELIK@AOL.COM
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Date: Sun, 28 Sep 97 13:29:59 -0700
From: James Espey
Subject: DML: Source for DMC Typeface
Someone from the list a while back was asking me where to get the
typeface styled after the logo/lettering on the DeLorean. I finally found
a reference to it in an old BTTF Fan Club newsletter.
axe Creatives
35 arkway Drive North
Commack, NY 11725-5108
516-864-4907
$20 plus $2.50 shipping
Truetype for Windows
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Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 16:50:13 -0500
From: Bob Mims
Subject: DML: Fuse Box Overheating and Shorts
My 1981 DeLorean has had all of the standard electrical retro-fits as
performed by Delorean One in Houston about 5 years ago. Yesterday my car
would not start. I checked the fuse box for the fuel pump fuse. The 20
amp
fuse and the fuse holder in junction box had melted. About a year ago a
similar starting problem had occurred and I removed a jumper with a fuse
which appeared to be in series with the fuel pump fuse because it had
melted. What is going on here? Has anyone else experienced this problem?
I replaced the fuse and everything worked fine. I am afraid that there is
an intermittent short or the circuit is not properly fused and I will
catch
on fire. Does anyone have any experience and advice here?
Thanks a million.
Bobby D. Mims - Tyler, Texas
bmims@tyler.net
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Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 15:44:43 -0600 (MDT)
From: bttfdmc@connect.ab.ca
Subject: Re: DML: Key blanks
When I purchased my DeLorean, the guy gave me non-DMC key. Later, found
the
original DMC key when dumping the cigarette ashes out of the cigarette
tray
from the previous owner, also dumping out the original key broken in half.
Now, I am searching for a blank DMC key so that I could atleast have one!
Randy Atamaniuk
Vin #16353
At 04:14 PM 9/27/97 -0500, you wrote:
>When I bought my De Lorean it came with two generic key copies, but it =
>did not come with an original key. I now have a few original De Lorean =
>key blanks. What does it take to get them cut (so that they work)? The =
>first locksmith I went to used a grinder and screwed one up :( !!! I =
>heard that it was a Volvo style key, but the Volvo dealer said it =
>wasn't. Does anyone know what other car the key goes to?
>
>Thanks,
>Travis #6344
>
>
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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 07:59:58 +0930
From: Greg DELIOS
Subject: DML: any RHD for sale?
Hi,
I'll be in the US (Boston area) around the 10th till 29th October. Are
there any RHD Ds for sale?
Thanks,
Greg
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Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 18:25:13 -0500
From: dstall@mail.trib.net (D.L. Stalling)
Subject: DML: Oct. 12 10:00 am Auction: DeLorean and Avanti
To anyone interested in purchasing a 1981 DeLorean or a 1963 Avanti
Studebaker R-2 Supercharged restored to excellent condition. I anticipate
leaving Columbia, MO for another job and don't know what garage storage
we'll end up with in a new location. Therefor I am offering at auction
with
presently firm reserve price of $18,500 for the DMC 12 with 14700 miles
(automatic) and $18,000 for the Avanti (subject to prior sale by owner).
The auction will be held at 2505 Shepard Blvd. Columbia, MO 65201 on
October 12, 1997 at 1:00 pm. Anyone intested in attending or wanting
information on the cars can call me at (573) 442-2795 or email at
dstall@mail.trib.net. A picture of this DMC-12 was featured this spring
for
at time on DOA's home page with the get away car used by my son and
daughter-in-law's after their wedding under the title "On to the Future".
I'd rather someone with special intest purchased the cars than to have to
store them until we get settled in a new location.
The cars may be purchased prior to the auction but prices are firm.
Dave Stalling
dstall@mail.trib.net
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Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 19:47:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: TMaynor429@aol.com
Subject: Re: DML: Fuse Box Overheating and Shorts
so long as you dont increase the fuse size you should be okay i work with
wiring all the time i own a stereo shop let me know if have any other
problems because i just bought mine thanks
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Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 20:45:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: KKoncelik@aol.com
Subject: Re: DML: DMC/Bricklin Car Show
I am looking for a Bricklin for the Cincinnati Show next year. Would you
be
interested. I am going to try and get some of the cars that inspired the
deLorean
also some less direct cars like the ferrarri. I have located a Bricklin
but
it is not near original. I also have a ferarri and lotus tentatively and
a
few gto's. thought it'd be fun to look at some of these also.
Anyone know where I can find a Gull winged mercedes near Cincinnati
Ken
KKoncelik@aol.com
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Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 18:14:42 -0700
From: Chango
Subject: DML: WTB: DeLorean (duh) in Southern California area
Looking for any year with no dents, scratches. Automatic. Stainless.
Good Condition. Mail me at ultrab1@pacbell.net, I live in Orange
County.
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Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 21:16:48 -0700
From: dmcnews-approval@world.std.com
Subject: Re: DML: Key blanks
The Volvo key blanks work. I have done it numerous times. Just a plain
key, but they work. Only 79 cents here in LA.
Robin McNeill
DMC #1
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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 02:27:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: CDN20@aol.com
Subject: DML: Lotus V8?
I recently got to talk to several Lotus engineers about the new V8 in
the
Esprit. According to them, it can fit into the Delorean with little or no
problem. I was wondering what type of trans-axle replacement might be in
order to convert to the Lotus V8?
( I also got to test drive the V8 Esprit and the North American version of
the Elise which handles very similarly to the D)
Matt
VIN# 1305
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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 97 07:17:27 -0000
From: James Espey
Subject: DML: DeLorean Happening, Columbus, Ohio (10/31/97-11/2/97)
In response to my request for more information about their upcoming
event, I was faxed this notice from DeLorean Motor Company (Houston). It
is re-printed here for the benefit of all interested. I have made my
reservations and am looking forward to seeing many of you there!
James Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
- --------------------------------------------------------
This is to invite you to an exciting event in the DeLorean continuing
saga.
DeLorean Motor Company and Stephen Wynne are pleased to announce the
acquisition of the largest inventory of DeLorean parts in the world.
After successful negotiations with Kapac/DeLorean in Columbus,
DMC/Houston now owns and controls a 46,000 square foot warehouse filled
with DeLorean spare parts. This is great news for DeLorean owners. They
may now be assured of parts availability for years to come.
The gathering in Columbus will give the participants an opportunity to
tour the DMC warehouse in Columbus, Ohio to see this massive inventory of
DeLorean parts.
DMC is also pleased to have acquired the services of Leif Montin, who
will assist in the control, organization and distribution of the parts
inventory. Leif was the National Parts manager for the original DeLorean
Motor Company in Irvine, California. Leif will be available during this
event to give some inside background of the DeLorean "start-up" and to
answer questions about the early days of the first DMC.
Rob Grady, of P.J. Grady, Long Island, will present a tech seminar. A
partially assembled DeLorean will be used for the presentation.
The event schedule will be as follows:
Friday, October 31, 7:30pm to whenever - Informal get-together at
DeLorean Hospitality suite at the Crown Plaza, downtown Columbus.
Saturday, November 1, 8:00am to 8:30am - Complimentary coffee at the DMC,
Columbus warehouse.
Saturday, November 1, 8:30am to noon - First group will tour the Parts
Warehouse while the first group attends the Tech Seminar.
Saturday, November 1, noon to 1:30pm - Lunch break.
Saturday, November 1, 1:30pm to 5:00pm - Second group tours the warehouse
and the first group attends the Tech seminar.
Saturday, November 1, 6:00 and 6:30pm - Informal, no-host group dinner
and Barcelona restaurant (One of Columbus most fashionable). Due to
limited space, there will be two seatings and availability is on a
first-come, first serve basis).
Sunday, November 2, 10:00am - A second tour of the Parts Warehouse for
those interested.
A special room rate of $89.00 per night has been negotiated at Crown
Plaza hotel for attendees. Reservations should be made no later than
October 8th, 1997 by contacting the Crown Plaza at the following
address/phone: Crown Plaza Hotel, 33 Nationwide Boulevard, Columbus, OH
43215, phone 614-461-4100, fax 614-461-5828.
Special parts pricing on selected items will be offered at this event and
part orders submitted will be shipped, freight prepaid, if required.
Payment options are American Express, Mastercard, Visa, Discover Card,
cash and checks.
Please pre-register with DMC (Houston) for our planning. If
pre-registering with DMC by October 15th, a special gift will be put
aside for you and awarded at the event in Columbus. We are looking
forward to a fantastic event and hope to see you there. You will not be
disappointed.
Cordially,
Stephen Wynne. President
DeLorean Motor Company (Houston)
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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 10:27:48 -0400
From: "Geoffroy Birtz"
Subject: DML: Re: Key blanks
> From: Travis H. Graham
> To: 'dmcnews@world.std.com'
> Subject: DML: Key blanks
> Date: Saturday, September 27, 1997 5:14 PM
>
> When I bought my De Lorean it came with two generic key copies, but it =
> did not come with an original key. I now have a few original De Lorean =
> key blanks. What does it take to get them cut (so that they work)? The
> first locksmith I went to used a grinder and screwed one up :( !!! I =
> heard that it was a Volvo style key, but the Volvo dealer said it =
> wasn't. Does anyone know what other car the key goes to?
>
> Thanks,
> Travis #6344
I don't have an original Delorean key (would love one) my key is a Volvo
key.
I've had copy made of my key, also on Volvo blanks. Theoretically there no
reason anybody with a key cutter couldn't copy your present key using your
Delorean blanks theoretically !
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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 13:00:57 -0600 (MDT)
From: bttfdmc@connect.ab.ca
Subject: Re: DML: Re: Key blanks
>I don't have an original Delorean key (would love one) my key is a Volvo
>key.
>I've had copy made of my key, also on Volvo blanks. Theoretically there no
>reason anybody with a key cutter couldn't copy your present key using your
>Delorean blanks theoretically !
That's what I was getting at!! I don't really have a DMC key, because the
previous owner snapped it in half. Sure, you could get a key cutter to
cut
a DMC key, but where on earth can you find one??? And if you do find one,
people want $79.00. That's insane! Although, rumor has it that a guy in
England has two barrels full of blank DMC keys. And he's been threatening
to destroy them. Why does he want to do that? Because he hates JZD. I
think he's nuts. A lot of DeLorean owners could use a new DMC keys.
Randy Atamaniuk
Vin #16353
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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 16:05:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: NJP548@aol.com
Subject: Re: DML: Key blanks
Dear DeLorean fans and owners,
I always wanted to know what a DeLorean key looked like. Does it
have
the "DMC" on it or what.? I am hoping on owning a DeLorean in the near
future but would love to know what the key looks like now.
Thanks,
Nick
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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 19:02:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: ROBLAMROCK@aol.com
Subject: Re: DML: any RHD for sale?
Hi Greg,
There's a RHD DeLorean for sale in Cookstown, Northern Ireland. It was
one
of the factory originals. Current asking price is #22,000 (Pounds
stirling)
but I think he will accept #20K.
Let me know if you're interested and I'll pass on the info.
BTW there's another RHD for sale in the Isle of Man, U.K.
Best wishes,
Robert Lamrock,
Belfast,
Northern Ireland.
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 00:35:10 +0100 (BST)
From: Martin Gutkowski
Subject: Re: DML: any RHD for sale?
Hi,
All I can say is: "You'll be lucky!!!" There are fewer than twenty in the
whole world, and as far as I know they're all in the UK. However, I know
for a fact that the ONLY RHD Automatic ever to come out of the factory was
up for sale at the start of this summer for a paltry 25000 pounds (about
$40000). Reply for details, and contact of someone who could be of more
help than me.
Martin
On Mon, 29 Sep 1997, Greg DELIOS wrote:
> Hi,
> I'll be in the US (Boston area) around the 10th till 29th October. Are
> there any RHD Ds for sale?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg
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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 17:41:55 +0000
From: "Steve"
Subject: DML: The repair saga continues
Hello again:
well got up this morning to face another day of "fun fixing" the "D".
as the story go's, seems a fuse had overheated and stopped the
fuel-pump from getting 12VDC. Check this out -the fuse was GOOD, just
a bad connection, so, after a little burnishing of the fuse mounting,
plugged it in and ....BBBBBbbbbzzzzzzzzzzzzz went the fuel pump...
car started right up ....purrrrrrrrring like a kitten again.......
so called my friend up to come over to go to lunch...... THE CAR
STARTED ran like a top we had lunch, then for the "BIG" test, out to
I-95 and 70/75 MPH...... smooth as silk.... however when I put the
AC on HIGH (4th speed) NOTHING---- nothing at all, back to 3 and all
was great, well of course I'm sure u all know , seperate relays for 3
and 4. replaced the relay..... now it blows "COLD" on 4..........
the only thing i can say at this point... if u buy a car that has
been sitting for about 6/7 years, you better plan on cleaning a lot
of relays and check a lot of wiring....
tomorrow is "find out about the window on the passanger side, why it
doesn't work, after being replaced by the car dealer in mid-june.
P.S. changed the plugs, rotor cap and button, using a
WIX AIR FILTER #46112
DISTRIBUTOR CAP STANDARD GB-426
ROTOR BUTTON STANDARD GB-332
Oh a quick fix- for the "BATTERY DRAIN" a lot of u guys have been
talking about --with the "DOOR LIGHTS" just reach up behind the door
switch, u know, the one that turns the side door lights on/off, and
just pull the plug loose, the lights "WON'T LIGHT" and your battery
stays happy , with less drain, then just plug -em in and your off,
real simple and quick
later steve (10734)
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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 17:05:27 -0700
From: bpayne@macnet.com (Brandon Payne)
Subject: DML: "Delorean grey"
I was at a flooring store today and was wandering around, when I just
happend by the grout samples. I noticed a color called "Delorean grey,"
and
went nuts. This has to be after the car, because I cant think of anything
else grey by the name of Delorean, other than the car. Anyone else ever
heard of this color?
Brandon J. Payne
bpayne@macnet.com
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 01:48:26 +0000
From: BRUCE BENSON
Subject: Re: DML: Fuse Box Overheating and Shorts
> The 20 amp fuse and the fuse holder in junction box had melted.
> Thanks a million.
> Bobby D. Mims - Tyler, Texas
> bmims@tyler.net
One of the primary causes of heat build up in the electrics is increased
resistance caused by poor connections. Stephen Wynne did a tech seminar a
couple of years ago in Iowa and during it talked of the importance of
making
sure all the connector blades on the fuses were clean. Even if they look
good they can be dirty or oxidized enough to be a potential problem. He
suggested using a very fine sand paper to gently polish the surface of
each
blade.
Several years ago a friend had a fuel pump problem by which he blew fuse
#7
at least once on every drive he took. Finally the car refused to start
altogether. We checked the continuity between the inertia switch and the
fuel pump and found none. After running a new wire between the switch and
the fuel pump everything worked fine and has ever since. We had heard
that a
few cars had a problem with the wiring loom being bent too sharply in the
left front fender and guessed that maybe the fuel pump wire was gradually
breaking strands and there-by increasing the resistance until it finally
broke. That was only a guess but, what ever, we made things work again.
If you think you may have a short in the fuel pump circuit, try removing
the
ground wire from the battery and putting an meter, capable of reading
milliamps, between the battery ground and the ground wire. Make sure
everything is off, including the interior lights. If you get a reading of
more than a few milliamps, you may have a problem. Remove the fuel pump
fuse
and see if the reading changes. If it changes somewhat significantly
you'll
have to look deeper for the answer. There are a number of places to check
including the connections at the pump itself, the inertia switch and its
connections, and the various plugs along the wiring loom that feeds the
front of the car. There have been stories about electrical melt downs and
even fires in the fuse box area. Some even recommend keeping the cover off
the box but if all the connections are in good condition there shouldn't
be
any problem.
Bruce Benson
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 08:15:26 +0000
From: "Steve"
Subject: DML: radiator hose ID # (left side)
hello:
Left side radiator hose for general info is NAPA # 7926
doing passanger side window and ?????? today.
steve (10734)
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 97 07:12:24 -0000
From: James Espey
Subject: DML: ADMIN NOTE: Subscriber Count
As of 9/30/97, the DeLorean Mailing List has 694 subcribers to either the
live or digest versions.
James Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
http://www.dmcnews.com/
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 97 07:21:53 -0000
From: James Espey
Subject: Re: DML: "Delorean grey"
On 9/30/97 12:05 AM, Brandon Payne shared these fine thoughts...
>I was at a flooring store today and was wandering around, when I just
>happend by the grout samples. I noticed a color called "Delorean grey,"
>and
>went nuts. This has to be after the car, because I cant think of anything
>else grey by the name of Delorean, other than the car. Anyone else ever
>heard of this color?
I saw this myself and was curious enough that I did a little research and
wrote an article about it. Tune in to the next issue of the 'zine, due
out in November, for details on how this product's color came to be!
James Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
http://www.dmcnews.com/
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 97 07:24:39 -0000
From: James Espey
Subject: Re: DML: The repair saga continues
On 9/29/97 5:41 PM, Steve shared these fine thoughts...
>Oh a quick fix- for the "BATTERY DRAIN" a lot of u guys have been
>talking about --with the "DOOR LIGHTS" just reach up behind the door
>switch, u know, the one that turns the side door lights on/off, and
>just pull the plug loose, the lights "WON'T LIGHT" and your battery
>stays happy , with less drain, then just plug -em in and your off,
>real simple and quick
Steve's idea notwithstanding, the switches themselves cost just a few
bucks each, and it's a simple thing to replace. Make sure tha the
switches have the rubber cover on the end, this extends the switch a bit
more to ensure it closes completely. Additionally, I had a problem with
an intermittent door light. All that was needed was a gentle cleaning of
the contacts.
James
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 97 07:27:01 -0000
From: James Espey
Subject: Re: DML: Re: Key blanks
On 9/29/97 7:00 PM, Randy shared these fine thoughts...
>Although, rumor has it that a guy in
>England has two barrels full of blank DMC keys.
Anyone else heard this one? How 'bout our man in the UK, Martin? Maybe
Robert in Belfast? I was one of the "insane" people that paid $79 for a
key blank for my '82, and while I can't say it was the msot important
purchase I ever made for my car, it looks nice and original as only an
original can.
James
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 9:48:37 -0500
From: Don Gowler-CFPO01
Subject: DML: RE: "Delorean grey"
When I designed and had my current house built 10 years ago I also came
across
DeLorean Grey grout and immediately snapped it up for use in the tiled
areas of the
house. It's rather light in color but went great with the tiles I
chose.
Regards, (you guessed it) The Silver Fox
>----------
>From: bpayne@macnet.com%INTERNET
>Subject: DML: "Delorean grey"
>
>I was at a flooring store today and was wandering around, when I just
>happend by the grout samples. I noticed a color called "Delorean grey,"
>and went nuts. This has to be after the car, because I cant think of
>anything
>else grey by the name of Delorean, other than the car. Anyone else ever
>heard of this color?
>
>Brandon J. Payne
>bpayne@macnet.com
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 97 11:15:04 -0000
From: James Espey
Subject: DML: Regarding the "Unzustellbar!" messages
Recent contributors to the DeLorean Mailing List may have received a
message with the subject "Unzustellbar!" followed by some German text.
Rumors that Mercedes and/or BMW have taken a sudden interest in the
DeLorean and are planning to distribute the long-rumored "D2" are simply
not true.
A German susbcriber dropped his internet account without unsubscribing
from the DeLorean Mailing List, so all messages posted were bounced back
to the senders. I believe this has been remedied. If anyone else receives
an "Unzustellbar!" message in the future, please let me know.
Thanks to the lists members who pointed this out to me, and the list
members who translated for me.
James Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 13:51:35 -0500
From: "Steven W. Gilseth"
Subject: DML: New DeLorean Owner with Questions
Hello Everyone,
I just purchased my first DeLorean (#5982) last week.
I am looking for some help on a few items I would like to fix before I =
store it.
First - I am looking for a set of repair manuals and the such. I =
contacted Delorean One in CA and they gave me a price of $142 plus =
shipping. Is that a reasonable price for those materials? Does =
somebody know of a different source?
Second - When I purchased the car which has 32K miles the LAMBDA light =
was on. The dealer I bought it from ordered a replacement oxygen sensor =
but is unsure on how to clear the light. Will it go out automatically =
after replacing the sensor?
Third - The radio doesn't work. I haven't had a lot of time to look at =
this problem yet, but I did check the fuse box and all the fuses are OK. =
From monitoring DMC News I have learned that problems with the fuse box =
is common. I also have a partially melted fuse panel and fuse. I =
replaced the melted fuse with a new even though it was intact. Anyway, =
does anyone have any other suggestions on what might be the problem with =
the radio? It looks like it is getting no power at all. Is there =
another fuse or circuit breaker?
Last for now - Is there anyway to determine if the engine, transmission, =
etc. are the originals? I am pretty sure I do not have the original key =
and am also interested in getting a few blank DeLorean keys.
________________________________________________________________________=
_
Steven Gilseth
sgilseth@minn.net
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 14:48:47 -0400
From: Mike Substelny
Subject: DML: What a DeLorean key (or anything else) looks like
Nick said:
> I always wanted to know what a DeLorean key looked like. Does
> it have the "DMC" on it or what.?
My car as the two key system. Both have te letter DMC molded into the
plastic, and the door key has a tiny flashlight built in.
Nick, I suggest you or anyone else who wants to see what any
DeLorean part looks like should check out "The Quintessential DeLorean
Home Page."
http://comp170.cditrain.com/delorean/
Page owner Mike Babb often takes requests from people who want to
see parts of a DeLorean. Contact him (there's a hypertext given) and
ask if he will post a key picture on his site for you.
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 23:02:58 +0100 (BST)
From: Martin Gutkowski
Subject: Re: DML: Re: Key blanks
Er... I profess to know nothing on the subject. Rob's colleague (who I
believe you (James) have met), Dave Howarth is "Mr DMC UK". But he's not
on the 'net.
Martin
On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, James Espey wrote:
> On 9/29/97 7:00 PM, Randy shared these fine thoughts...
>
> >Although, rumor has it that a guy in
> >England has two barrels full of blank DMC keys.
>
> Anyone else heard this one? How 'bout our man in the UK, Martin? Maybe
> Robert in Belfast? I was one of the "insane" people that paid $79 for a
> key blank for my '82, and while I can't say it was the msot important
> purchase I ever made for my car, it looks nice and original as only an
> original can.
>
> James
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 18:05:53 -0400
From: "Michael C. Babb, MCSE"
Subject: DML: Re: What a DeLorean key (or anything else) looks like
Thanks Mike. I was trying to figure out a use for the last few shots on
my
roll. I have a two key systems also, but only one key (don't ask) I
will
get some pictures put on the site ASAP....
I also might be selling my DeLorean (don't want to, but am looking for a
house) if anyone has an interest check out the car from the link below
and
let me know
Thanks,
Mike Babb
- ----------
From: Mike Substelny
To: dmcnews@world.std.com
Subject: DML: What a DeLorean key (or anything else) looks like
Date: Tuesday, September 30, 1997 2:48 PM
Nick said:
> I always wanted to know what a DeLorean key looked like. Does
> it have the "DMC" on it or what.?
My car as the two key system. Both have te letter DMC molded into the
plastic, and the door key has a tiny flashlight built in.
Nick, I suggest you or anyone else who wants to see what any
DeLorean part looks like should check out "The Quintessential DeLorean
Home Page."
http://comp170.cditrain.com/delorean/
Page owner Mike Babb often takes requests from people who want to
see parts of a DeLorean. Contact him (there's a hypertext given) and
ask if he will post a key picture on his site for you.
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 18:22:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: JSteuben@aol.com
Subject: Re: DML: What a DeLorean key (or anything else) looks like
Hi, while on the key subject, I have two sets of original keys for my car.
Is there any way to make the little flashlight work? I tried new batterys
and
cleaning, but that doesn't seem to do it. Does anyone out there have a
set
that
with a flashlight that works? If so, could you draw me a schematic that
shows
the proper way to put it together? Thanks Joe
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 20:28:29 -0500
From: Daniel McGauley
Subject: DML: DeLorean PowerBook Owners
This company sells "Delorian" (note the misspelling) PowerBook bookcovers.
Pretty cool.
http://www.bookwares.com/22%20Century.html
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 23:47:17 -0700
From: Mickey Mitchell
Subject: RE: DML: any RHD for sale?
Do you or does anybody know how many factory RHD DeLoreans were =
produced? - I thought I had heard the number 36 somewhere along the =
line.... any documented VIN number ranges? Do you know how many =
kilometers are on this vehicle? Sorry for all the questions, but I have =
always been interested in factory RHD Deloreans, not conversions.
Tnx
Mickey #3408 - Dallas, Texas USA
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Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 00:58:15 -0700
From: stimpy@wans.net (Eric B Johnson)
Subject: DML: How to finish stainless steel?
I have an 81 DMC project car that I purchased this summer that was
painted red. I wanted the stainless steel finish so i removed the paint.
The stainless finish underneath the paint is all scratched up from the
sanding that was done to prepare the surface for paint. My question is
does anyone know what tools to use to restore the finish? I have been
told to get a flap wheel, or belt sander. If you use either one of these
tools what grit paper or flap wheel? Also what grit would one finish it
with? Any information would be greatly appreciated.
thanks
- -Eric Johnson-
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 23:53:37 -0600 (MDT)
From: bttfdmc@connect.ab.ca
Subject: Re: DML: "Delorean grey"
At 05:05 PM 9/29/97 -0700, you wrote:
>I was at a flooring store today and was wandering around, when I just
>happend by the grout samples. I noticed a color called "Delorean grey,"
>and
>went nuts. This has to be after the car, because I cant think of anything
>else grey by the name of Delorean, other than the car. Anyone else ever
>heard of this color?
Hey there, I saw the same stuff and bought it and used it for the tiles
in my hot tub. I still have the box too and it says DeLorean Grey on it.
I wonder if Mr. DeLorean has shares in the company that makes the grout,
as I have heard rumors of him still being involved in dozens of other
small business.
Randy Atamaniuk
Vin# 16353
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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 06:38:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: thomkuby@ridgecrest.ca.us (Thom Kuby)
Subject: DML: '81 FOR SALE
Nice Delorean for sale:
1981
5 speed
all original-no flaws anywhere.
less than 23,000 original miles
California car-excellent condition
$14,000 FOB Ridgecrest Ca
a real good buy - inquiries to:
thomkuby@owens.ridgecrest.ca.us
The car is about 3.5hrs Northeast of Los Angeles
GUYS: THIS IS A NICE CAR, A GOOD BUY, AND I REALLY NEED TO MOVE IT --
THANKS (no...I am NOT a dealer)
For more details, please Email me privately
Thanks
Thom Kuby
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