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Tuesday, October 7 1997 Volume 03 : Number 288
In this issue:
Re: DML: door struts
Re: DML: DeLorean Dealer In Maine
Re: DML: Frame
DML: Fwd: delorean 556
DML: DeLorean spotted somewhere in TN
DML: Re: vanity plate list
DML: S-10 DMC
Re: DML: Fuel System Blues
DML: Another radio radio problem story.
Re: DML: Weight differences
DML: DeLorean Dealers??
Re: DML: door struts
DML: twin turbos
Re: DML: DeLorean Dealers??
Re: DML: The nasty *I* word >> Insurance!
Re: DML: Key blanks
DML: Re: CAP- Better Description
DML: wires????
DML: Door struts - Chicago
Re: DML: DeLorean Dealers??
Re: DML: Key blanks
Re: DML: Key blanks
RE: DML: DeLorean Dealer In Maine
Re: DML: twin turbos
DML: Gasket for thermostat cap?
Re: DML: twin turbos
DML: DeLorean Dealer List
DML: Dye for seats
Re: DML: Key blanks
[none]
Re: DML: Resetting Lambda Counter
Re: Re: DML: Key blanks
Re: RE: DML: DeLorean Dealer In Minnesota
DML: Another DeLorean needed for video shoot
Re: DML: Resetting Lambda Counter
Re: Re: DML: Key blanks
DML: Lee and the keys...
Re: DML: Resetting Lambda Counter
Re: DML: Dye for seats
Re: DML: Key blanks
Re: DML: Key blanks
Re: Re: DML: Key blanks
RE: DML: Key blanks
DML: Re: Starting Problem (solved)
Re: DML: S-10 DMC
Re: Re: DML: Key blanks
DML: Bought My First DeLorean..
Re: DML: Fwd: delorean 556
DML: columbus
DML: DeLorean Headliners
Re: DML: Lee and the keys...
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Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 03:42:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: Magicshow@aol.com
Subject: Re: DML: door struts
door struts can be purchased from DeLorean One
1-800-DMC-HELP
although it looks like a very easy job my old struts didn't come off very
easily
Make sure you keep the clips that keep them on as the new pair doesn't
come
with them
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Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 09:16:08 -0400
From: Benjamin Ruset
Subject: Re: DML: DeLorean Dealer In Maine
>The DeLorean dealer in Maine in 1981 was:
Who was the one in New Jersey???
BEN RUSET - http://www.monmouth.com/~bruset
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"Up the airy mountain,
Down the rushy glen,
We daren't go a-hunting
For fear of little men."
--William Allingham
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Date: Sun, 05 Oct 97 10:06:51 PDT
From: "Brandon S. Moody"
Subject: Re: DML: Frame
> At 02:07 AM 10/4/97 UT, you wrote:
> >Looking for comments on rust proofing the frame. I am planning to
> >chemically
> >strip, galvanize and powder coat a spare frame. The cost will be under
> >$1200.00. The spare frame is in like new condition with no rust or
> >cracking of the paint.
When I restored my car, I used Rhino Linings' Tuff Stuff polyurethane.
It bonds to steel , wood, plastic, etc. Chemical resistant, tear
resistant,
and has an extremely high tensil strength. Its 100% garuanteed for
the life of the vehicle. Check out http://www.rhinolinings.com,
for more info. After about 2 years on the Delorean and about 6 years
on my truck, Its holding up perfect !
- -Brandon
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Date: Sun, 5 Oct 97 20:32:04 -0700
From: James Espey
Subject: DML: Fwd: delorean 556
This was sent to me, maybe someone on the list has an ansewr for this guy.
James
- ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ----------------
Date: 10/05 7:04 PM
Received: 10/05 8:26 PM
From: Jan Neste, neste@online.no
To: moderator@dmcnews.com
Hello!
Car number 556 from 1981 (one of the last test-cars) has been offered me
for sale. Is it possible than anyone could tell me what kind of tests
this spesific car has gone thru?
kindly regards
Jan Neste, Norway
- ----------------- End Forwarded Message -----------------
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Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 13:39:36 PDT
From: "Doc Brown"
Subject: DML: DeLorean spotted somewhere in TN
My uncle just told me he spotted a DeLorean
on the way to my house.
He's a car dealer and is trying to get me hooked up
with a "D"
I believe it was somewhere
in West Tennessee. Are there any TN DeLorean
owners on this list?
Please respond.
I myself have never spotted a DeLorean.
Thank you,
Eric Plunk
______________________________________________________
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Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 18:29:03 -0400
From: AARON1@webtv.net (AARON MILLS)
Subject: DML: Re: vanity plate list
The rad dad suggested a list of vanity plates, I think this is a great
Idea. Also anyone in Mich. also going to Ohio for the DMC warehouse
tour?If so, I'd like to get a group together ( I'm in kalamazoo).
Aaron
vin 11554
MICH plate STAINLS
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Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 18:49:24 EDT
From: aaronhusak@juno.com (AARON HUSAK)
Subject: DML: S-10 DMC
I was in Austin over the weekend so I thought I'd check out the
"sport-utility" DMC. What a disaster. Anywhow the listed price has been
lowered to $9500.
- -- Aaron Husak
To do is to be. -Descartes
To be is to do. -Voltaire
Do be do be do. -Frank Sinatra
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Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 22:15:00 -0400
From: Sean Mullally
Subject: Re: DML: Fuel System Blues
>I know this is getting boring. Still, I have been having the
>famous "DMC won't start hot" problem. I have replaced the fuel
>pump, pickup line, and the accumulator. Absolutely no improvement.
>Does anyone have any ideas of what else can be wrong with my
>Delorean? The usual symptoms. Starts immediately when cold.
>Wont even start to start when still warm. Car never stalls.
>Seems to be worse when tank is very full.
David, I have recently had the same problem looked at by my mechanic. He
replaced the warm air regulator and the fuel distributor. (the total
bill was about $900!) Apparently there was varnish/deposits in there
from fuel that had gone bad. I've had it back for a few days and it
seems to have fixed the problem, but I am keep my fingers crossed. I
would like to say I hope this helps, but for your sake I hope your
problem is NOT the same. A new fuel distributor alone runs about $614.
- -Sean Mullally
VIN# 3868
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Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 19:16:22 -0700
From: "Murray Fisher"
Subject: DML: Another radio radio problem story.
I see comments re radios not working and possible solutions.
I had one that I bet has not been seen before. I have had VIN 5962
six months today...I don't remember our anniversary but DO
remember I bought the car on the 5th of April!!
I purchased it from the original owner with 3443 miles on it. He told
me when I picked it up that the radio had never worked on it. He did
not use a radio and had other cars and just never got around to getting
it fixed. Due to a severe hearing loss mainly, I do not run radios in a
car either.
I decided I would like to have EVERYTHING on the car working properly so
checked
out the main fuse in the fuse panel....all were okay. I read where the
radio also has two inline fuses under the dash....Hot and ground lines.
As I don't bend so well anymore (at age 76) I went to a shop that repairs
and installs auto radios and audio systems. The young man stood on
his head under the right side of the dash and found that both lines did
not
HAVE a fuse. The fuse holders were intact but no fuse in them! He
thought that possibly none were put in at the factory and somehow that
never got checked!! New fuses brought it back to life probably for the
first time since it left Ireland.
I doubt if this will help anyone, but thought it was an interesting story.
Murray
VIN 5962
DOA
DMC
PNW DeLorean Club
Oregon DeLorean Club
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Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 19:02:38 -0700
From: bpayne@macnet.com (Brandon J. Payne)
Subject: Re: DML: Weight differences
I've heard that the factory weight was 2,838 lbs, but that could be
incorrect. I read some other weights, they are all smalar to that figure.
Brandon J. Payne
bpayne@macnet.com
- ---------------Sock Monkeys have invaded your computer!---------------
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Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 22:21:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: NJP548@aol.com
Subject: DML: DeLorean Dealers??
Hey all:
Does anyone know who the DeLorean dealer was on long Island in New York?
Thanks,
Nick
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Date: Sun, 5 Oct 97 20:49:31 -0700
From: James Espey
Subject: Re: DML: door struts
On 10/5/97 12:42 AM, Magicshow@aol.com shared these fine thoughts...
>door struts can be purchased from DeLorean One
>1-800-DMC-HELP
New struts can be obtained from all the major parts suppliers. I actually
bought mine from PJ Grady and found that they appeared to match the
original struts the best appearance-wise. Call around, prices vary.
James
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Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 22:58:23 -0700
From: Tom Cores
Subject: DML: twin turbos
I was talking to someone about twin turbos on a DMC. They told me to
have someone install it and the purchase the parts is around $3600
U.S. Although he didn't mention where or specifics. I would
appreciate some info on anyone who had twin turbos put on, or knows
prices, or even where I might get turbos for one. I would like to know
how well they are working if anyone has them. Chgo,IL
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Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 02:01:15 -0700
From: "Marvin S. Sterling"
Subject: Re: DML: DeLorean Dealers??
NJP548@aol.com wrote:
>
> Hey all:
>
> Does anyone know who the DeLorean dealer was on long Island in New York?
>
> Thanks,
> Nick
- ------------------------------------------------
Yup!
P.J. Grady Chevrolet/ DeLorean - West Sayville, N.Y. and Gold Cadillac
in Jamaica, Queens, N.Y. I think that Gold had to give up either the
Cadillac or the DeLorean at GM's insistance.
Regards,
Marv Sterling
vin 16000
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Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1986 00:13:24 -0700
From: "lseiler@radiance.com"
Subject: Re: DML: The nasty *I* word >> Insurance!
At 05:54 PM 10/3/97 -0800, you wrote:
> Greetings.
>
> I have found an 83 DMC that's been in storage for a long time that I
>MAY buy from its owner. After I last talked to him he went and
>started it up -*ARGH*- just to make sure it still runs -- I have
>already read that one should first flush out all the old gas,
>etc. but he did it anyway.. Anyway.. that's WAY off subject.
>
> I have already had a talk with the bank and they'll loan me the $$
>against the car, as long as they get a qualified appraisal plus
>they'll need FULL insurance. AAA says they'll insure the car but they
>can't say how much it'll cost until I give them the VIN #. I have yet
>to see the car, which I will do as soon as I can, and then I'll get
>the VIN #, but does anyone have an idea what I'm looking at $$ wise?
>AAA is going to know you can't just get the body parts at the local
>dealer, so I expect they'll charge me a huge amount for collision,
>fire, theft, etc. if I can even get those covered during the druation
>of my loan. My other otpion is to take out a personal loan at a
>higher % and just get the basic requirements covered so that the
>great state of California will allow me to drive it.
> Any Ideas?
>
> Ken Montgomery
>
Hello Ken,
Sound to me like you got a great deal going there! If the DMC is in good
condition, I would take the bank deal. I happen to have paid cash for
mine,
which was in mint condition, and was stored/driven. It still had many of
the "usual" DMC problems. Most I have fixed with a few of the harder jobs
done bt a local shop I am training to be a DMC repair place.
About your insurance.... it's different for every one, each in his/her
own
location, driving record, age etc. you will get lots of different prices
from my DMC pals here on the list. I happen to be in a very high cost area
as far as auto insurance goes, plus I have full coverage with a an
unrealistic de-duck-table of $200. I pay about $600 a year with 20th
Century. todate we have had one claim on a rental last year. They took
care
of the whole deal and did not even mark us down from Good Driver discount
status.
Try Delorean One or PJ Grady for an appraisal. I got a video tape
appraisal of my DMC befor I got it.
Good luck!
Lee
VIN#5729
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Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1986 01:18:58 -0700
From: "lseiler@radiance.com"
Subject: Re: DML: Key blanks
At 09:16 PM 9/28/97 -0700, you wrote:
>The Volvo key blanks work. I have done it numerous times. Just a plain
>key, but they work. Only 79 cents here in LA.
>
>Robin McNeill
>DMC #1
>
Hello Robin and all,
Speaking of DMC Key-blanks and the story of some guy with a sack full for
which he wants $75 each or he will destroy them....What crap!
I have a mold from an original DMC key. If there were enough people
interested I might make custom sets for list members. They would be
identicle to the originals.
About the only way I can see that this would work would be for members to
send in a working key to have the black plastic part added.
The keys can be any color but as I recall they were all Black.
If I got say 25 to 50 list members interested I think the codt would be
about $20 a set of two, not counting the cost of the Keys.
Just a thought....if you are interested just comment here on the list.
Any ideas are also welcome.
Lee
VIN#5729
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 08:23:35 +0000
From: "Steve"
Subject: DML: Re: CAP- Better Description
***RE: What is a "CAP"
Sorry guys, Let me explain a little better.
If u have the Delorean schematic and look in the alternator area it
shows a 3uF capacitor connected to the regulated output terminal of
the alternator to ground.
the "SHOP MANUAL" shows one for the motorola alternator in section
M:05:01
they all show a small capacitor connected to the external lug of the
alternator, its MAIN function is to prevent NOISE in the electrical
system and Radio, THIS NOISE -sometimes- is in the form of VOLTAGE
SPIKES and the "CAP" supresses them. and absorbs the spike. So if
your "CAP" is bad or missing u usually get a lot of radio "buzz" and
noise and a LOT-O-SPIKES, this can cause the clock to go weird or
reset itself, blow fuses, stick relays etc. which was my case.
However with the new 144Amp alternator I put in, the "CAP" is built
in "inside the alternator housing". So I thought if anyone was having
"these types of problems" they should "CHECK THAT CAP"
Thanks
( Steve VIN 10734)
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Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 07:33:46 -0500
From: Jameel Ahed
Subject: DML: wires????
Dear DML,
I got a smaller pulley and my Alternator works great now... I did
solder the GM plug onto my wires. Brown with yellow strip goes to pin1
or white. The left over wire goes to pin 2 and it is red. This is
what I have done on my car. It works great... I don't want to be held
responsible for any problems this information may cause. Thank you..
Jameel
- --------------------------------------------------
Jameel Ahed CEO of CyberTECH Industries
Consultant for VOITECH Computer Solutions
HOMEPAGE: http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~ahed/
VOITECH: http://www.voitech.com
EMAIL: mailto:ahed@uiuc.edu
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 8:04:26 -0500
From: Don Gowler-CFPO01
Subject: DML: Door struts - Chicago
Please call me direct at (847) 435-3733
or at cfpo01@e-mail.mot.com
Regards, The Silver Fox
Don Gowler
DeLorean Midwest Connection
>----------
>From: tomc@megsinet.net%INTERNET
>Reply To: dmcnews@world.std.com%INTERNET
>Sent: Sunday, October 5, 1997 12:26 AM
>To: dmcnews@world.std.com%INTERNET
>Subject: DML: door struts
>
>I was wondering how much door struts cost, and how hard are they to
>install. Also where can I get them from. Thank you -Chicago,Il
>
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 07:09:33 -0600 (MDT)To: dmcnews@world.std.com
From: raddad@cmn.net
Subject: Re: DML: DeLorean Dealers??
>Hey all:
>
>Does anyone know who the DeLorean dealer was on long Island in New York?
>
>Thanks,
>Nick
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
- --
It was P.J. Grady a long time GM (Pontiac) dealer. He is the father of
Rob
Grady who has carried on the DMC effort. He is located in West Sayville.
Local phone is 516-589-6224 (or, 1-800-350-7429)-- located on Montauk
Highway.
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 09:59:06 -0400
From: "Geoffroy Birtz"
Subject: Re: DML: Key blanks
> From: lseiler@radiance.com
> Just a thought....if you are interested just comment here on the list.
>
> Lee
> VIN#5729
count me in ! gbirtz@qtrdk.com
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Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 09:08:45 -0500
From: Jameel Ahed
Subject: Re: DML: Key blanks
Dear DML,
I would love to go in on this one. Please... If any of you are
interested lets get some type of list started. I hope we can get
atleast 25... I have a two key system. Would this mean I count for 2
of the 25???? Will Both the new keys have working flash lights!!! I
was successfull with making duplicate keys with
Ignition- VO73 X29
Door- ilco WB3 X169
Both of these keys work perfectly in my July '81 DeLorean...
Thank you!
seiler@radiance.com wrote:
>
> I have a mold from an original DMC key. If there were enough
> people
> interested I might make custom sets for list members. They would be
> identicle to the originals.
>
> Just a thought....if you are interested just comment here on
> the list.
>
- --------------------------------------------------
Jameel Ahed CEO of CyberTECH Industries
Consultant for VOITECH Computer Solutions
HOMEPAGE: http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~ahed/
VOITECH: http://www.voitech.com
EMAIL: mailto:ahed@uiuc.edu
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 09:15:06 -0500
From: "Steven W. Gilseth"
Subject: RE: DML: DeLorean Dealer In Maine
I would be interested in knowing the dealer in Minnesota.
Maybe it would be possible to post all the dealers at one time
or put it on a Web page somewhere.
Steven Gilseth
sgilseth@minn.net
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 07:43:03 -0700
From: raddad@cmn.net
Subject: Re: DML: twin turbos
I have had the twin turbo set-up on both my D's and I have been very
satisfied with them. Since I live at 7000' altitude, the already weak
(HP-wise) D engine needs the extra horsepower. I have not experienced any
engine problems as a reult of the turbos. Keep the boost to a reasonable
level (generally agreed to be the the 6lb range) and you should be fine.
Keep in mind that the turbos will not make you "quick off the line", but
at
midrange speeds, they provide sweet performance.
I have friends who have installed single turbos and they have acheived
very
similar results with somewhat less expense.
In the Chicago area you might wish to contact Guy Avellon who has twins on
his D. You can reach him at "gtroadracer@juno.com".
Dick Ryan - The Rad Dad
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 10:51:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: Starman
Subject: DML: Gasket for thermostat cap?
Hi all,
A few months ago I replaced the water pump. There was no gasket on
the thermostat cover. Lately, antifreeze has been leaking out from there.
I was wondering if there was a common replacement part for it, and if not,
can I just use gasket sealant to seal that up?
Mike
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 08:22:22 +0000
From: ausmith@pdx.oneworld.com
Subject: Re: DML: twin turbos
Tom wrote,
> I was talking to someone about twin turbos on a DMC. They told me to
> have someone install it and the purchase the parts is around $3600
> U.S. Although he didn't mention where or specifics. I would
> appreciate some info on anyone who had twin turbos put on, or knows
> prices, or even where I might get turbos for one. I would like to know
> how well they are working if anyone has them. Chgo,IL
Tom,
Contact Eleanor Rogers @ Turbo Manifold Co., 207 Ridge Rd.,Wheatly
Hts. NY 11798.
I have her units on my car and am quite happy with them. Some of the
castings ( tubing ) leave a lot to be desired but the performance is
quite good.
I believe current prices, kit only, to be around $5,000.00.
Installation extra and she only sells the kit, she doesn't do
installation.
Chris
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 97 09:00:54 -0000
From: James Espey
Subject: DML: DeLorean Dealer List
With all the requests for original dealer locations, I've started to
re-create the dealer list that came with the cars when they were new as a
PDF file. Look for it on the DMC-News home page later this week.
James
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 10:42:38 -0500
From: "John P. Chandler II"
Subject: DML: Dye for seats
The seats on my DMC are fine, no tears or cracks, but the gray dye has
worn
off on part of the driver's seat. Does anyone know of a dye which can be
used to renew this. I had a similar problem years ago on a Jaguar that I
owned and, at that time, found a red dye which worked for that
application.
John P. Chandler II
Hayward, WI. 54843
Voice: 715-462-9337
Fax: 715-462-3682
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 13:17:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: Magicshow@aol.com
Subject: Re: DML: Key blanks
I'll take a dozen key blanks with the molded DMC plastic head.
Brian Gilbertson
5275 Oxford St.
Shoreview, MN 55126
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:48:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: dmcnews-approval@world.std.com
Subject: [none]
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Some thoughts on galvanizing the frame:
1) There are fears that the heat of galvanizing the frame will stress
relieve the frame and could cause warping ... not good
2) Any place there is a hole for a bolt or fitting will fill with zinc.
You'll need to drill and tap these holes if you don't block them off.
3) If you block them off it must be able to withstand the high temps.
If
you use metal, such as screws, you'll find that they'll be "welded" in
the
hole by the zinc.
At least one person has galvanized their frame without issue. When I
refinished/repaired my frame I elected to not take a chance with warpage.
I
Stripped, patched(uses SS in some places), zinc-chromated, and powder
coated
(1st coat was a zinc rich primer the second was the color coat). I did
galvanize the trailing arms since they take a lot of abuse.
NOTE: I caused myself a problem for alignment when I repaired the bottom
of
the engine crossover. I cut out the bad parts and had a piece of SS
welded
to the bottom of the crossover. Turns out that you use the bottom of the
crossover as a datum point for alignment (it needs to be 5.5 Inched of
the
floor). I need to recalculate that height with the plate in place. I'm
sure it is not much, but ....
NK
Measure it with a micrometer, mark it with chalk and cut it with a torch.
:-)
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 14:40:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Sean P Mullally"
Subject: Re: DML: Resetting Lambda Counter
>The Lambda counter is located under the dashboard
>next to the steering column. The speedometer cable
>passes through the counter (that's why there are
>upper and lower speedometer cables). The counter
>measures percent of use of the oxygen sensor, and the
>sensor has a predicted 30,000 mile life. That means
>that a Lambda counter showing 020 has travelled about
>6000 miles since the last reset (20% of 30,000). The
>counter should never vary more than about 250 miles
>from the odometer. If it does, your odometer has been
>tampered with or your car has had a rare upper
>speedometer cable failure.
>
Pardon my ignorance, but what is the purpose of the lambda/oxygen sensor;
is
this related in some way to the emission control system? And why have I
seen no
other cars with this warning system.
- -Sean Mullally
vin #3868
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:36:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: TVRUS@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: DML: Key blanks
add me to the new key club.... I could use the flashlight blank...
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:38:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: TVRUS@aol.com
Subject: Re: RE: DML: DeLorean Dealer In Minnesota
In Edina... It was Key Cadillac.... In Two Harbors it was Sonju Motors....
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 97 13:45:17 -0000
From: James Espey
Subject: DML: Another DeLorean needed for video shoot
Got another call today from a different company wanting to use a DeLorean
in a video shoot, this time in Provo, Utah. Email me if you are
interested and I will put you in touch with the company.
James
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 14:11:50 -0700
From: raddad@cmn.net
Subject: Re: DML: Resetting Lambda Counter
Sean
You've seen it and just not realized it. For example on my 89 Jeep
Cherokee it was one of those invisible backlit items that you never saw
until the counter reached the magic number; then, voila, a piece of the
dash lit up and said "emission maintenance". Most europeans cars referred
to the "lambda" while US cars say emission or some variation thereof.
Dick Ryan
The Rad Dad
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>Pardon my ignorance, but what is the purpose of the lambda/oxygen sensor;
>is
>this related in some way to the emission control system? And why have I
>seen no
>other cars with this warning system.
>
>
>-Sean Mullally
>vin #3868
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 14:14:05 -0700
From: raddad@cmn.net
Subject: Re: Re: DML: Key blanks
I have two key blanks. Both my D's were one key cars. Neither had a
flashlight. Thus, though I don't need a key blank, if there is to be a
"flashlight model" I would be interested. (I didn't think that was what
Lee was offering.)
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Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 16:10:22 -0500
From: Jameel Ahed
Subject: DML: Lee and the keys...
Dear Lee and DML,
Lee... Once you think you have enough people that want the keys
can you notify us on how you want us to make the transaction... How
much will they be and do we send a set of keys to you at what
address....... I appreciate this very much. Thank you.
Jameel
- --------------------------------------------------
Jameel Ahed CEO of CyberTECH Industries
Consultant for VOITECH Computer Solutions
HOMEPAGE: http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~ahed/
VOITECH: http://www.voitech.com
EMAIL: mailto:ahed@uiuc.edu
- --------------------------------------------------
- ----------------- End Forwarded Message -----------------
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Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 14:55:07 -0600
From: reynolds@dtlnet.com
Subject: Re: DML: Resetting Lambda Counter
Sean P Mullally wrote:
> Pardon my ignorance, but what is the purpose of the lambda/oxygen
> sensor; is
> this related in some way to the emission control system? And why have
> I seen no other cars with this warning system.
>
> -Sean Mullally
> vin #3868
You have! Every car has an Engine light, or a Sensor light. They
simply count the mileage and then light up, you then have to take it to
the dealer and pay some amount (in Nissan's case it's 45usd) for them to
check the oxygen sensor and turn off the light. On most cars though,
they stop going off after 90,000.
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 11:19:43 +0000
From: ausmith@pdx.oneworld.com
Subject: Re: DML: Dye for seats
John wrote,
> The seats on my DMC are fine, no tears or cracks, but the gray dye has
> worn
> off on part of the driver's seat. Does anyone know of a dye which can be
> used to renew this. I had a similar problem years ago on a Jaguar that I
> owned and, at that time, found a red dye which worked for that
> application.
Nu-Life Color Spray #614 Grey. It's a Laquer base dye that duplicates
the color and finish very well. Used it on my last car, not this one.
Should be available at a leather shop, otherwise the address on the
can is Magid Corp, Central Islip, NY 11722
Chris
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 13:17:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: Magicshow@aol.com
Subject: Re: DML: Key blanks
I'll take a dozen key blanks with the molded DMC plastic head.
Brian Gilbertson
5275 Oxford St.
Shoreview, MN 55126
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Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 16:37:46 -0500
From: Bill Marcussen
Subject: Re: DML: Key blanks
I would also be interested in repro key blanks, but am not familiar with
the flashlight key head. My '82 has a single key system and the
original key has only an enlarged, black head with "DMC" molded into it
- -- no flashlight. Perhaps the two hey system had a different head?
Bill
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:02:33 -0700
From: "Bob Medina"
Subject: Re: Re: DML: Key blanks
i would like buy two blanks e-me off the list=thanks bob
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 16:23:38 -0700
From: Dan Berglund
Subject: RE: DML: Key blanks
I'd be interested in the key blanks... just let us know when you figure
out cost, etc...
Thanks,
Dan Berglund
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 19:28:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: DMC81sle@aol.com
Subject: DML: Re: Starting Problem (solved)
Earlier this summer I posted a plea for help regarding a frustrating
problem
with my D which continued to get worse as time went on, namely the car
would
start, run well, but after a period of time (which continued to get
shorter)
the car would quit. After a period of time, aprox 2 hours, the car would
restart. I should mention here that the problem was not fuel related,
rather
ignition as at one point after a flame out, I pulled an ignition cable and
inserted a spare plug on hand for this purpose, turned the engine over and
observed there was no spark.
This weekend I replaced the impulse coil in the distributor (which I
determined to be bad by way of performing a resitance check as outlined in
the service manual) and PRESTO !! my car is once again a reliable
vehicle.
Prior to replacing this component I had done all the recomended electrical
maintainance tasks (cleaning connections, fuse holders, etc)
I had received several E mail requests to post the solution if I found
one as
they were experiencing a similar problem. Hopefully this info proves to be
useful to someone.
Scott Engelhart
81 D #1604
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 19:53:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dragnfly44@aol.com
Subject: Re: DML: S-10 DMC
Boy, it would almost be worth picking it up just to have some spare
stainless
steel panels! Were they in good shape?
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Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 20:23:12 -0500
From: Daniel McGauley
Subject: Re: Re: DML: Key blanks
two keys for me please..
*************************************************************************
"If you're going to build a time machine out of a car, why not do it
with some style?"
Daniel McGauley (VIN #2903)
Home: hawkeye@creativeworlds.com
Motorola: mcgauley@cig.mot.com
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Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 20:39:18 -0500
From: Daniel McGauley
Subject: DML: Bought My First DeLorean..
Well, I finally purchase my first DeLorean. 1981 #2903 is now mine!
I wanted to thank everyone on the list for all the valuable information.
It proved quite helpful!
I had a few problems during my first weekend with it.
1) My key wouldn't turn in the ignition even after turning the wheel a
bit.
I finally (after several frustrating hours) got this fixed by slight
tapping on the end of the key about three times. Very weird. Anyone
every
experience this unusual problem?
2) My car won't start in the mornings until about the 10th crank. I
assume
this is a sign of bad gas? Is there a quick fix to this so I can start
driving it right away? Ed at D1 scared me to death and said I need to get
it fixed before moving it, but my mechanical skills would only go as far
as
to allow me to drain the tank and replace the pump and filter. Will this
save my engine, or should I ship it off to DMC Houston or D1? I really
don't want to be without my new baby for 6-10 months though.
3) Call me stupid, but what is the Fascia? Is that the piece of plastic
that hangs down under the car?
fascia?
4) What are the main sources for battery drain? I put a new battery in,
but when I turn they key to number II position, the meter only reads 8
volts. I assume something is sucking my battery dry each night? After
the
car gets going and the alternator starts its job, it reads 12-13 volts so
I
guess the meter works OK. I busted my hand so I couldn't remove my
battery
cables so I just removed the main fuses from the box, and this seemed to
work. Is it hard to install a battery kill switch?
5) Is the binnacle hard to replace?
I called DeLorean One, PJ Grady and DMC Houston, and I must admit, my
first
experience with all of them was very good. They all seemed generally
excited about my purchase and went out of their way to tell me what I need
to do first. Ed was pretty intense though! He loves DeLoreans and
doesn't
want anyone messing them up. Are DeLorean's really going to appreciate as
much as his company advertises? If Ed, Rob, or Steve are on this list,
thanks for the advice today.
P.S. I reread all the old mailing list archives and I had three questions.
1) There was going to be a DeLorean CD-ROM. Did that ever get off the
ground? 2) Someone was compiling a FAQ of common problems/fixes from the
mailing list. Did this ever get made? 3) Somebody (I believe Rob Hook)
was in touch with a young man who was going to build a DeLorean model kit.
Is this something everyone has already received?
Thanks again.
*************************************************************************
"If you're going to build a time machine out of a car, why not do it
with some style?"
Daniel McGauley (VIN #2903)
Home: hawkeye@creativeworlds.com
Motorola: mcgauley@cig.mot.com
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Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 21:48:23 -0400
From: The Lees
Subject: Re: DML: Fwd: delorean 556
James Espey wrote:
>
> This was sent to me, maybe someone on the list has an answer for this guy.
>
> James
>
> ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ----------------
> Date: 10/05 7:04 PM
> Received: 10/05 8:26 PM
> From: Jan Neste, neste@online.no
> To: moderator@dmcnews.com
>
> Hello!
> Car number 556 from 1981 (one of the last test-cars) has been offered me
> for sale. Is it possible than anyone could tell me what kind of tests
> this spesific car has gone thru?
>
> kindly regards
> Jan Neste, Norway
>
> ----------------- End Forwarded Message -----------------
According to my records, among others, we had #558 at Legend Industries
as part of the Twin Turbo development program. #556 was not one of our
cars.
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Date: Tue, 07 Oct 97 06:41:38 PDT
From: "Brandon S. Moody"
Subject: DML: columbus
So, who plans on going to the Columbus thing ? I know
I am. Anyone bringing their cars ? I think I"m going in
a truck, I plan on going shopping while I'm there. I need
a driver door and rear panel. Anyone have these for sale ?
If so, bring them. I don't really need them but my door is kinda
scratched up on the latch section and it doesn't look good.
- -Brandon
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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:43:12 -0500
From: "Jim"
Subject: DML: DeLorean Headliners
Does anyone know where I can get the cloth for a grey interior that is
used
for the headliner panels. Also if anyone has any advice to share on how
to
install it would be apprecitated. Thanks Jim
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Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 03:57:36 -0700
From: "lseiler@radiance.com"
Subject: Re: DML: Lee and the keys...
At 04:10 PM 10/6/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Dear Lee and DML,
> Lee... Once you think you have enough people that want the keys
>can you notify us on how you want us to make the transaction... How
>much will they be and do we send a set of keys to you at what
>address....... I appreciate this very much. Thank you.
>Jameel
>
>--------------------------------------------------
>Jameel Ahed CEO of CyberTECH Industries
>Consultant for VOITECH Computer Solutions
>HOMEPAGE: http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~ahed/
>VOITECH: http://www.voitech.com
>EMAIL: mailto:ahed@uiuc.edu
>--------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>----------------- End Forwarded Message -----------------
>
reply:
Jameel and DML,
Some time ago, a long time ago, in another life...I was one of the half
dozen certified Hydrodynamic Towing Tank ship model builders in the USA.
In
those days we were expected to use many exotic materials in building both
surface and submersible tank models. A good deal of this work included
molding techniques. requiring millionth of an inch accuracy. we did
polaris
subs, boeing 727 "T" tails, lifting bodies and more.
These days I am CEO of a software company dealing with 3D modeling/VRML
and all that stuff, part of this includes the business infrastructure
needed to take orders and process credit cards, checks and track
customers,
orders.
When I saw the comments and the re-dic-u-las comment suggesting $75 for a
key it occured to me that "we" of the DML could make our own "Duplicate"
DMC keys, why not use the molds we have, I have the means to both make the
molded end of the key and keep track of the business end. The cost I
suggested is what I guess would cover the actual cost of materials and
shipping.
There are several ways that we could do the key thing. one would be to
find a key pattern that matched the existing DMC original keys. Just make
several hundred and sell them on a first come first serve basis. The
problem I see in this is that every one may not have the original key
patterns or may have replaced the door or ignition Key with a non-matching
type, may have a gas cap key. I don't really want to get in to the general
DMC Key manufacturing business.
Another possible solution might be to have each person wanting DMC-molded
Keys to simply get a copy of their existing key made, and send that copy/s
to our company. no matter what the style or make of this "copy", we could
recut the molded end and re-mold it using the DMC tooling. This approach
would allow DMC owners who wanted the "DMC" key to get a duplicat of their
original key with out having to risk the actual key they use every day
with
their DMC, allow us to do the molded ends with out risking anyone's
original key and keep the cost down. Plus Our company would be covered by
day to day business insurance, which would provide coverage in the event
of
a problem with keys.
I was thinking of doing most of the molding my self, I need some time
away
from my regular office duties and I know the work would be done right. I
can keep cost down by limiting the "fee" to materials and shipping. My
company can do the tracking, receiving and handel the money part. Sence I
have a little pull around the office I can get a DMC-Key account setup to
ensure that the money part stays strigh, and all the tracking, shipping
documents ect and so on are handeled as SOP.
My intention is not to make the DMC-Key a commerical venture, I have no
access to DMC-Key blanks and won't be selling key-blanks. If I do this it
will be a "labor of love" as they say and only for DMC owners and then
just
two keys per owner. I am keeping a list of every one who wants duplicate
DMC-Keys, from the DML.
Again if you are interested, say so......
If you have any ideas on the best way to do this.....say so!
Lee
VIN#5729
BTW there is no set minimum, I am thinking of $20 a set of two keys.
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