Friday, October 23 1998 Volume 03 : Number 432
In this issue:
Re: DML: Re: leaking fuel lines?
Re: DML: Delorean at Blackhawk?
Re: DML: New startup car company ... sorta
DML: Stuck Plugs
DML: Re: wiring nightmare
DML: Re: workshop manual question
DML: Re: Front end vibration
Re: DML: Re: speaker boxes
DML: Re: PRV V6 was a V8 / Thanks for the plug advice
DML: Re: What is a torsion bar? (was my t-bar tweaked)
DML: DMC & A&E
DML: Re: wiring nightmare
Re: DML: Re: Speaker Boxes
DML: Alternator??
Re: DML: New startup car company ... sorta
Re: DML: Delorean at Blackhawk?
Re: DML: Re: PRV V6 was a V8 / Thanks for the plug advice
DML: dmc atari
DML: Re: DeLorean prototype owned by Blackhawk
DML: Re: coil covers
Re:DML: dmc atari
DML: A missing De
DML: Re: My torsion bar spontaniously tweaked. Where is it?
Re: DML: New startup car company ... sorta
DML: accident
DML: Re: Alternator??
DML: Re: DMC & A&E
DML: Re: DirectHits follow-up
DML: Delorean Dealer
re DML: Delorean self bleeder (again)
DML: Thank you
DML: Brake fluid?
DML: steering column bushings
Re: DML: Delorean at Blackhawk?
Re: DML: Commercial postings (was: steering column bushings)
Re: DML: Delorean at Blackhawk?
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 00:47:45 -0400 From: tundra@stratos.net Subject: Re: DML: Re: leaking fuel lines?
> Tip from my airplane mechanic.
Take those copper washers used on the fuel system and place them on a piece of heavy wire (coat hanger), heat till red hot ( blow torch) and drop in water. Like new.
Mike
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Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:30:11 -0700 From: Ben Krasnow <kraz@wco.com> Subject: Re: DML: Delorean at Blackhawk?
Is there currently a DeLorean at the Blackhawk Car Museum in Northern California? I went there less than a year ago specifically looking for one, but they mostly had older cars. If you know of one that is there right now, I will probably be taking as trip shortly. Thanks
> on the last meeting of the Nor Cal DMC where we went to the Blackhawk > Museum(as described by So Cal member Mr Breer, thx for the post) i met > "RadDad" and looked at his turbo "D". WOW! well, he had a self bleeder
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Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:39:44 +0000 From: ausmith@pdx.oneworld.com Subject: Re: DML: New startup car company ... sorta
> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:11:40 -0400 (EDT) > From: Bill Wilson <fluffy@snurgle.org> > To: dmcnews@world.std.com > Subject: Re: DML: New startup car company ... sorta > Reply-to: dmcnews@world.std.com
> On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 ausmith@pdx.oneworld.com wrote: > > > Cobra, and with great success. JZD should have taken a lesson from > > him and started small, but then our cars would cost much more and > > most of us wouldn't be able to afford them. > > I don't think starting small was an option.
???????
I must disagree. Everyone associated with this car except JZD was into small run production. Colin Chapman, Lotus, never produced anything on a GM scale in his life. Giorgetto Giugiro did most of his design work, at the time, for Ferrari. If DeLorean had followed these examples and expanded as demand justified it, he might still be in business.
Chris #6301
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 02:26:38 EDT From: WtrResQ@aol.com Subject: DML: Stuck Plugs
nk 897 wrote snip>
dry ice shaped like a spark plug boot :-) and the damage it will do your fingers is obvious. If you get desperate you may want to try liquid nitrogen. It is readily available, can be poured on the plugs but make sure you use an insulated container to pour from and/or wear gloves.
snip>
plz dont put liquid nitrogen on your delorean. i worked in a lab for over 3 yrs and worked w/ it. it freezes soooo cold that the frosen item will be so brittle it will shatter. very bad! plz, plz plz,....dont try this at home. i hope NK was joking.
james 10470
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 01:43:40 -0400 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: wiring nightmare
Brian, The silver box your talking about is part of the fuel/emissions system far as the rest of your wiring nightmares here is what I suggest. Remove any and all wiring that is not original to the car, I know this is difficult but unused extra wiring will make all future trouble shooting and servicing much more difficult. If you have any further questions on wiring email me directly. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 02:17:47 -0400 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: workshop manual question
Doug, Item # 1 RH door lights are the three lamp symbols at the lower right side of the page. Item # 2 are the three lamps at the lower left of the page. Item # 3, 5, and 6, are the four diodes in the center of the picture. The upper right is the interior light diode, the lower left is for the left door switch the lower right one is for the right door switch. Item # 4 are the lamp switches at the upper right of the page. Item # 7 is the dash "lock doors" warning lamp it is at the left center of the picture and is connected to fuse # 5. Item # 8 is at the right center of the page. Items # 9 and 10 are the switches located directly above the door lights, left and right respectfully. All the diodes in the car should be connected, this could be the cause of your problem. The last time I order a connector/coil cover there were readily available. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 02:32:46 -0400 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Front end vibration
Nick, We have some times encountered persistent problems with balancing and in all cases it was eventually remedied by our alignment shop. Some cars can be aligned in 15 minutes, some may take 90 minutes. Not knowing how your alignment shop handles such problems here is how our Guys do it. All four tires are static balanced, machine balanced, and than checked for "roundness'. The tires are re-mounted and two technicians proceed to do an "on the car balance". One to spin the tires the other to feel the car for vibration. When that is completed they take the car for a road test and drive it at speed. They repeat this process until the car is vibration free. Hope the is helpful information. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services
- ---------- > From: Kemp, Nick (MN10) <nick.kemp@HBC.honeywell.com> > To: 'Delorean Newsletter' <dmcnews@world.std.com> > Subject: DML: Front end vibration > Date: Wednesday, October 21, 1998 12:14 PM > > I have front end vibration around 55 MPH, any ideas what is causing it? > > Background: > - New AVS tires > - When mounted they did an on car balance > - Car is aligned to spec > - Very noticeable front end vibration > - A month goes by without any driving > - Took it back and had them balanced again. This time off car since the > on > car balancing guy is missing (literally) > - less vibration but still noticeable > - Mechanic says everything up front is tight > > Do you think it is still the balance or do things like bearings come into > suspicion? > > Thanks, > > NK
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:13:44 EDT From: WtrResQ@aol.com Subject: Re: DML: Re: speaker boxes
ok, im gonna have to say that i dont agree w/ Kayo(entirely) in his last post. my wife is a composer and sound designer. she has been in the music business for the past 23 yrs, as a profesional. i just installed a new sound system in my "D" and she says that it sounds "great".
i feel that the shape and design of most cars makes for a very good listening area, although once the car is turned on and then driven, one looses this great listening room due to the outside noise.
i upgraded the indash and rear speakers w/ high end speakers able to reproduce nice highs and mids. these are run off an indash Bloupunkt(sp) deck w/ cd. to take care of the bass issue, i installed an 8 in. bazooka tube which has its own crossover and gain control, and is powered by an onboard amp. i chose the 8 in. tube after listening to both the 6 and the 10. now the 6 was tight, but was not able to reproduce enough of the lows in modern R & B/ or jazz. the 10 was just way to much....it just vibrated too much. the 8 was, to quote a famous little bear, "was just right".
now Kayo was right in theory regarding the proper listening distance to be from a speaker for the "best" bass, great bass can still be heard from the distance found inside a car. not only is bass heard but it is felt by the body and the little hairs inside the ear. i invite anyone to listen to my system and tell me that it does not sound good.
just my 2 cents,
james 10470
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:19:28 -0700 From: "Dave Price" <davep2@clipper.net> Subject: DML: Re: PRV V6 was a V8 / Thanks for the plug advice
>length on the Swedishbrick mailing list years ago. Also it is explained >why the V is at the angle of a V8 even if it's a V6, and Peugeot added the >balancer on the 505 to make it work smoother. It's also mentioned in the >Haynes Volvo 260 book.=20
I had read something about the balancer on a Peugeot mailing list.... Does anyone have information on this little gem? If this would work on our cars, it seems like added "smoothness" would be a major advantage.. my engine has always seemed a tad on the rough side... Not like there was something wrong, just that it wasn't "right" ...
BTW: I wanted to thank everyone on the list for offering advice on my spark plug delimma. I warmed it up, cooled it down, drenched it in WD-40, and used all sorts of "snapping" movements with my hand and my hammer.. all to no avail. Then I just figured I'd brute force it, I got a $3.50 torque wrench with a 2-foot handle, and after about 120 ft/lbs of torque, they came off. Even the "Nasty, behind the driver" plug didn't take me too long to change. I'm still collecting data on the DirectHits that I installed, and I'll let you all know the results in my D.
Thanks again!
- - Dave
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:40:35 -0700 From: "Dave Price" <davep2@clipper.net> Subject: DML: Re: What is a torsion bar? (was my t-bar tweaked)
>I just replaced the door lift/support struts on my D. this week. > I have >seen several messages on the exchange about this "torsion bar". What is >it? >Where is it? And how do you inspect it? And do I need to do anything to >it >since I put the new door struts on? > The torsion bar is what actually opens the door. The struts just assist the t-bar. Without the struts the door would droop, but would still open (somewhat) .. The t-bar is located at the top of the door opening. It is inserted into the front door hinge, passes in front of the rear hinge, through the body and into a bracket that you can see in the crack between the roof and the rear louvers.
If you've replaced your struts and the door opens normally (i.e. not too fast/springy, not too droopy) the t-bars can be left alone. There doesn't seem to be any "maintenance" for them persay, however, make sure you don't score or scuff them with a sharp object, as that will cause a fracture that will eventually lead to my little episode. I think that my bar was rubbing against the rear hinge.. it looked like it was pretty close to it.
Eventually your t-bars may need to be adjusted, which involves one person holding the door and another person applying opposing torque on the t-bar while bolting on the support bracket. I've heard this can be very dangerous, and require some skill and special tools.. Of which I'll probably have to get right quick.. No way I'm climbing over the console to get out of my car!
- -Dave
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:39:04 -0700 From: "lseiler@radiance.com" <lseiler@radiance.com> Subject: DML: DMC & A&E
To all DML members:
To any one interested in the encouragement of an A&E TV show featuring the DeLorean or it's history can propose such a show at any time.
If this is something you might like to do, there are three possible programs to send you suggestions to. 1. American Justice 2. Biography 3. Investigative Reports
All the information from the A&E channel suggest that they have programs booked so far into the future that sending in program ideas is pointless, however don't believe this. The program directors are always vulnerable to a good idea. The trick is not mass mailings, nor long detailed manuscripts. The best possible approach is a one page letter format with the key points in addition to one well written paragraph that outlines why the subject would make a good program. My guess is that if A&E gets any significant number of well read suggestions, that they are more likely to do a program than if they receive nothing.
For what it's worth I would not couch a letter being from a DeLorean fan or perhaps even owner, I would imagine that A&E gets gobs of trite mail from every nut group wanting to promote everything from speciality cars to animal sacrifice.
Each of these shows are quite different so I would suggest that if you choose to contact more than one you offer different approaches for each program pointing your suggestion on the main theme of each program venue.
any one wanting to add to this thread Points that might be worth mentioning in a possible program are certainly welcome by me.
Here are the address to use in sending in your program ideas.
AMERICAN JUSTICE should be sent to:
235 East 45th street
New York, NY 10017.
ATTN.: AMERICAN JUSTICE.
note: schedule is filled well into the foreseeable future.
INVESTIGATIVE REPORTS should be sent to:
235 East 45th street
New York, NY 10017.
ATTN.: INVESTIGATIVE REPORTS.
note: schedule is filled well into the foreseeable future.
BIOGRAPHY should be submitted to Biography suggestions through feedback form - Please do not submit unsolicited manuscripts to A&E.BIOGRAPHY. A&E.BIOGRAPHY is designed to showcase the most fascinating figures of all time.
Just some thoughts!
Lee
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:48:20 -0700 From: "Dave Price" <davep2@clipper.net> Subject: DML: Re: wiring nightmare
>2. The module for the alarm is located in the "box" behind driver's seat. >Dumb question: right next to it is a silver box that says "Jetronic." Is >this box part of the car's electrical system or part of the alarm?
Sorry I can't help with your other questions (although I would suggest getting those systems working, they sound cool) but the Jetronic box is part of the "Bosch K-Jetronic" fuel injection system that lets your car drink the mighty-mighty go-juice. If you take it out, it'll be much harder to drive. :)
Have fun with all your Cal Custom goodies!
- - Dave
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:45:52 -0400 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: DML: Re: Speaker Boxes
Marc, Your right, the TW10X2 is too long, that means the TW8X2 is the unit that would fit comfortably on the shelf. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:12:08 -0400 From: "yugoman" <mdrig@email.msn.com> Subject: DML: Alternator??
OK, my D is having the dreaded electrical problems. Last couple times it's been started, reqired a jump-off. When it's running the amp meter is still on 0. And there's an awful burning smell, could the alternator be just "burned up"? And if this is the problem, anybody have an alternator for sale to fit? Mine's #2423, August 81 build. Thanks.
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:49:57 -0400 From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM@cesmtp.ccf.org> Subject: Re: DML: New startup car company ... sorta
Chris said:
> . . . Colin Chapman, Lotus, never produced anything on a GM > scale in his life. Giorgetto Giugiro did most of his design work, > at the time, for Ferrari. If DeLorean had followed these examples > and expanded as demand justified it, he might still be in business.
I don't think DeLorean had the option of starting small. The British government had contributed a lot of money and expected to get a lot of jobs in return. The moment he decided to build the plant in Ireland, DeLorean took on a whole new set of political constraints that had nothing to do with building cars or conducting a business.
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:09:30 -0700 From: "Ryan Bennett" <rpbennet@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: DML: Delorean at Blackhawk?
>Is there currently a DeLorean at the Blackhawk Car Museum in Northern >California? I went there less than a year ago specifically looking for >one, but they mostly had older cars. If you know of one that is there >right now, I will probably be taking as trip shortly. Thanks >
It's my understanding that a prototype D was at the Blackhawk Museum, but has recently been relocated.
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:05:16 -0700 From: raddad@cmn.net Subject: Re: DML: Re: PRV V6 was a V8 / Thanks for the plug advice
>change. I'm still collecting data on the DirectHits that I installed, and >I'll let you all know the results in my D. - ----------------------
Dave
Yes, please do keep us informed of your experiences. There are so many wonderfully sounding aftermarket products, but few seem to live up to their manufacturers' claims. Some people won't even tell the truth if they've been burned for fear of looking like fools. Since many people think we D owners are foolish anyway, we aren't bothered by that. Your impartial opinion will be valuable.
Dick Ryan VIN 16867
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:57:36 EDT From: ATMorgan1@aol.com Subject: DML: dmc atari
I have searched for the dmc atari on the search engine but did not find any description of pictures. Could somebody please describe this to me or tell me where to see a picture of it. Thanks ATM
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 98 13:06:52 -0000 From: James Espey <espey@dmcnews.com> Subject: DML: Re: DeLorean prototype owned by Blackhawk
On 10/22/98 7:10 PM, Ryan Bennett shared these fine thoughts...
>It's my understanding that a prototype D was at the Blackhawk Museum, but >has recently been relocated. >
This is the same car that was at the barrett-Jackson auction here in Arizona this past January. Photos of this car are at the DMC-News website.
Stricylt speaking, it was not a "prototype", but actually a pre-production car. Most people consider the "prototypes"to be the cars built and engineered by Bill Collins (anyone know his whereabouts now?) This pre-production car has sliding windows, a slightly different interior and a few other minor differences. Most noticeably, the fascias and other pieces of the car were fiberglass (very heavy!).
James
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:08:11 -0400 From: Mike Griese <magriese@us.ibm.com> Subject: DML: Re: coil covers
Doug - I think DeLorean One is remanufacturing the coil covers.
Michael A. Griese IBM Storage Systems Division Rochester, MN 55901 Internet: magriese@us.ibm.com voice: (507)253-1853 fax: (507)253-2880
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 98 14:03:33 -0000 From: James Espey <espey@dmcnews.com> Subject: Re:DML: dmc atari
>I have searched for the dmc atari on the search engine but did not find any >description of pictures. Could somebody please describe this to me or >tell me where to see a picture of it.
I don't believe any pictures were ever made available.
While I do not know *for sure*, I believe this product was a scam by the seller "paraversal@aol.com". There was some discusion on this in "rec.games.video.classic", You can see the discussion for yourself at dejanews...
http://x9.dejanews.com/dnquery.xp?search=next&DBS=1&LNG=ALL&IS=delorean%20A
ND%20atari&svcclass=dnold&ST=QS&offsets=&svcclass=dnold&CONTEXT=909089181.1
397948458
Or, if the thought of copying and pasting that URL is intimidating, you can search for yourself. Search for "past" messages under the terms "atari AND delorean".
The seller had them advertised on the list once and then on eBay. I would love to hear from someone who actually bought one of these and what you ended yup getting for your money.
James
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:12:44 EDT From: Elgocho@aol.com Subject: DML: A missing De
I've only seen two Deloreans in real life. Those two have been the BTTF De at Universal Studios, FL and one that was parked in gasoline station near my house. I guessed that the owner of the station/garage owned the car. Any time I passed by the gas station, whether it was in a car or on the bus, I ran toward the window closest to the station and hoped I saw this great car again. I would go by the station every so often, but this year my bus passes by the station every day, unfortunately the De isn't there any more. I was wondering if anybody knew what happened to it? Did the owner sell it, and if he did, did any of you buy it? The station is on the corner of University Drive and Southgate Blvd. in Tamarac (but very near to Coral Springs) Florida. Thank you. BOSCH<=====
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:19:47 -0400 From: Mike Griese <magriese@us.ibm.com> Subject: DML: Re: My torsion bar spontaniously tweaked. Where is it?
There is a torsion bar for each door. It's that grey round bar at the top of the door. The bar provides the torque required to start opening the door. The gas struts provide the rest of the force required to lift the door.
The torsion bars are pretty high-tech. They were manufactured by Grumman and are cryogenically "set" torsion springs. As others have mentioned, don't scratch the bar. The scratch affects the torsional rigidity of the bar and they have been known to shatter.
Michael A. Griese IBM Storage Systems Division Rochester, MN 55901 Internet: magriese@us.ibm.com voice: (507)253-1853 fax: (507)253-2880
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:19:16 -0500 From: Bill Marcussen <billmarcussen@sprintmail.com> Subject: Re: DML: New startup car company ... sorta
Mike Substelny wrote: > > I don't think DeLorean had the option of starting small. The British > government had contributed a lot of money and expected to get a lot of > jobs in return.
JZD was a big thinker and approached the whole concept very expansively. He sold his project as a big one, thus created big expectations from the British government, among others. I believe the project could have started on a small scale and then grown into a big success, but JZD couldn't have done it. He thinks on too large a scale!
My .02 worth!
Bill
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:21:01 -0400 (EDT) From: brian metz <metz.50@osu.edu> Subject: DML: accident
For the poor guy whose car was hit. Not to say that what anyone else posted may be incorrect (because I do not know where they are e-mailing from), but be aware that insurance laws vary from state to state. There are no federal guidelines, it is purely a matter of state law. I am in Ohio. Here, as with most states, insurance is mandatory and there are set minimums on the amount of liability one must carry. Unfortunately, that minimum is very low, and the amount of coverage can easily be eaten up in repairing the car or medical bills alone. This leaves you out in the cold as far as shipping the car or paying for a rental. Don't get me wrong, the guy that hit you may have great coverage, but not a sure fact. Many times the best thing to do (If they give you any hassles about anything) is to contact your insurance company and let them handle it. I don't mean let them pay for it, I mean they know the laws, how the coverages work, have the attorneys on staff, and want to make sure that it doesn't end up as a claim that they have to pay. Besides, that's what you have been paying them money for all of this time.
Brian #16584
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:35:23 -0400 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Alternator??
Yugoman, Sounds like, I mean smells like your alternator is dead, you have probably burnt up the diodes. Replacement alternators are available from all of the major DeLorean parts suppliers. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:23:16 -0400 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: DMC & A&E
Lee, TV programs are produced not by viewer demand but by sponsorship support. Cable networks like A&E, Discovery, TNN, etc. are only carriers of programs that fit their target audience. The only way to influence the creation and production of a television program is to convince an advertiser why it would be beneficial for them to support the program you have in mind. Your best bet is to find a program that is similar to the type of show your looking to create, a classic auto show would be a good candidate, than check out who the advertisers are. Who ever the show "is bought to you by" is the best candidate. Remember, they are the ones that put up the mega bucks to produce the show. If they think your idea has merit they will produce a pilot and in turn show the pilot to the TV or cable network. If the network thinks the show fits their format and would pull a lot of viewers they would than contract the producer to do a series. Your heart is certainly in the right place but as much as you, I, and all of our friends love DeLoreans it is not "series" materiel. A one hour special might fit the bill. In the early days of TV viewer demand could influence program choices, that is; no more! It all boils down to the "mighty dollar". The sponsor is your target not the carrier. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:42:48 -0700 From: "Dave Price" <davep2@clipper.net> Subject: DML: Re: DirectHits follow-up
>Yes, please do keep us informed of your experiences. There are so many >wonderfully sounding aftermarket products, but few seem to live up to >their >manufacturers' claims. Some people won't even tell the truth if they've >been burned for fear of looking like fools. Since many people think we D >owners are foolish anyway, we aren't bothered by that. Your impartial >opinion will be valuable.
Well, I don't keep you all in suspense about these little beauties, so I'll tell you what I've found thus far..
They claim to offer:
* Improved starting...
I experienced no change, it always takes me a couple tries.
* Smooth engine operation...
This was immediately noticable, idles smoother, accelerates smoother,
and much quieter. I had to catch myself yelling at the passenger a
couple times, because I was used to much more engine noise.
* Reduced emissions...
Ok, you're all going to think I'm crazy, but I hollowed out my CAT,
and
afterwards, the exhaust burned my lungs.. After the DirectHits were in
there, it's back to tollerable. (Not that I'm sucking on my exhaust
pipes
or anything.) <g>
* Reduced carbon build up...
?? Who knows.
* Improved throttle response / horsepower...
Well, I don't know much about horsepower, but I did notice that I no
longer get a "lag" followed by a "surge" when accelerating, it's a
more
constant, smooth power curve. And I do seem to have more "pep".
(I'm diriving an Automatic)
* Improved fuel economy (up to 30%)
I haven't gone through a tank of gas yet, so I'll post the MPG
improvement (if any) as soon as I fix my door and burn up some gas.
This was my main reason for the purchase, so I'm anxious to see the
results...
Overall, I'm very pleased with this product. Total cost was $88 which included 6 DirectHits, 6 non-resistor Bosch plugs, and shipping. They arrived via priority mail in a couple days. They guy that runs Cumbustive Tech. is very friendly, and very helpful.
I had to hack up the ends of my spark plug wires because of the way DirectHits are installed. They screw on to the top of your spark plug, and that adds some extra height. I wanted to keep the well sealed, so I cut a hole out of the rubber grommet on the wire ends (big enough to fit around the DirectHits) pushed it on to seal the well, and used the "grommetless" rubber boot as a regular wire end.
For more info on these guys, go to www.directhits.com
I'll give you the skinny on my MPG as soon as I can!
- - Dave
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:14:30 -0400 From: Joe Palatinus <jpalatinus@earthlink.net> Subject: DML: Delorean Dealer
I just got my Beautiful 1981 Delorean ( vin 006808) and I was wondering if any one knows of a place in east Tennessee where I could get it repaired. Thanks Joe P.
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 98 20:17:06 -0000 From: David Swingle <dswingle@enteract.com> Subject: re DML: Delorean self bleeder (again)
On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 03:34:18 EDT WtrResQ@aol.com Wrote:
>Subject: DML: Delorean self bleeder > WOW! well, he had a self bleeder >attached to the bleeder valve that tapped into the upper/return hose on >the rear of the coolant bottle. my first question to the list is...i have not >been able to find a water hose to attach to the bleeder valve that has a >inner diameter of 1/4 inch. i have found lots of fuel line of this size, which >would take higher pressure than a water line, but ive heard that fuel >line can not be used w/ coolant. ive heard that the rubber will >breakdown......anyone?
I sure wouldn't use fuel line on a heater hose. It's not rated for the temperature. Actually I thought the hose was the easy part, I used NAPA M08282 5/16" (8 mm) hose. You'll need a 5/16 (8mm) brass tee for the upper end. To me the hard part was the fitting that screws into the water pump housing, it is a 1.0 metric thread, and it's about impossible to find in a hose barb without traveling to Europe. It looks a lot like 1/4 NPT thread BUT IT ISN'T. The trick is to get a metric brake bleeder fitting of the proper size, and drill out the end. You can also get a metric brake line fitting, and a flare-to-hosebarb adapter. You'll have to visit and industrial hose place for that one. If you just put the hose on the existing bleeder, it will leak around the threads, and the hose will probably fall off anyway.
Difficulty in finding the parts is why it's worth buying the kit from Arnie for 17 bucks.
Dave Swingle 81 VIN 5429 DOA, DMC, DMC(Midwest)
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 21:39:37 EDT From: eurojet@juno.com Subject: DML: Thank you
I just wanted to thank all of you who have responded to my various questions on the DML. I currently have an appointment with Don at the DeLorean Motor Center for a 62 point check up. That should aleviate all of my new owner concerns. I also enjoyed the light hearted answers to my question about the D in a parade! If any of you are ever in the San Diego area on vacation or work related business and need a DeLorean fix, please let me know and I'll share mine with you. I'd love to show it off to another appreciative owner. On a side note, last weekend there was a Concours de Elegance held here in La Jolla. I only went as far as driving my DeLorean around the outside of the venue to admire all of the publics vehicles. Lots of new BMWs, Porsches, Mercedes, Ferraris, etc. but not one D in sight! These really are rare automobiles. Christie's also held an auction and a 1955 Mercedes Gullwing Coupe sold for $272,000!!! Perhaps our cars are headed in that direction. By then I'll need the money for a rest home... Fil.
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:10:56 -0400 From: Gerald Deutsch <Jerry1@eclipse.net> Subject: DML: Brake fluid?
A member of this list told me about a certain type of brake fluid that I = should use in my D, but somehow that info got deleted. I remember they = said to use a Castrol product b/c it doesn't react with the rubber seals = in the calipers. Whoever sent that to me, would you please resend that = info? Thank you. ---Dan # 5493
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:28:13 +0000 From: "darryl@techline.com" <darryl@techline.com> Subject: DML: steering column bushings
RE: "steering wheel creep" - I manufacture and sell replacement column bushings machined from Delrin (sp?) plastic for $9.95 plus postage. Darryl @ Specialty Automotive 360-495-4640 or darryl@techline.com.
James - can I say that? Or is that being "commercial"? Just trying to help.
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:51:07 -0700 From: "lseiler@radiance.com" <lseiler@radiance.com> Subject: Re: DML: Delorean at Blackhawk?
At 12:09 PM 10/22/98 -0700, you wrote: >>Is there currently a DeLorean at the Blackhawk Car Museum in Northern >>California? I went there less than a year ago specifically looking for >>one, but they mostly had older cars. If you know of one that is there >>right now, I will probably be taking as trip shortly. Thanks >> > >It's my understanding that a prototype D was at the Blackhawk Museum, but >has recently been relocated. > > Send postings to "dmcnews@world.std.com" > Before posting, search the archives! www.dmcnews.com/search.html > Thank you! > > reply:
For clarification, the Prototype is part of a collection that was loaned out 3 days before we got there, and will be back after the loan is over.
Lee Seiler - Charter member NCDMC
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 23:27:58 -0000 From: James Espey <espey@dmcnews.com> Subject: Re: DML: Commercial postings (was: steering column bushings)
On 10/22/98 10:28 PM, darryl@techline.com shared these fine thoughts...
>RE: "steering wheel creep" - I manufacture and sell replacement column >bushings machined from Delrin (sp?) plastic for $9.95 plus postage. >Darryl >@ Specialty Automotive 360-495-4640 or darryl@techline.com. > >James - can I say that? Or is that being "commercial"? Just trying to >help.
Commercial postings have not necessarily been a problem on the DML. I did have a problem with a certain international DeLorean club that wanted to post their products for sale, but wouldn't let me advertise the DML in their publication. They are a good-sized organization with a large budget, why should I let them advertise for free when they won't even let me PAY to advertise the DML?
Darryl has contributed several articles to the 'zine, two of which I have published and the rest will appear in future issues. Joe at DeLorean Services is a welcome contributor to the DML and I would not have a problem if he ever wanted to advertise his services every so often.
DeLorean Motor Company (Houston) and PJ Grady are assisting in the distribution of "DeLorean Owners Directory" registration forms (inserting one in outgoing parts orders), so I would not have a problem if they ever wanted to use the DML - you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours.
However, I won't let the DML turn into a huge commercial - rest assured.
James Espey Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List http://www.dmcnews.com
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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 03:06:12 EDT From: CBL302@aol.com Subject: Re: DML: Delorean at Blackhawk?
I was just wondering,does anybody know the VIN number of the pre-production prototype that was at the Blackhawk Museum,and build date?
Claude Vin#00570
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