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----------------------------------------------------------------- 3566. DMC Joe Re: Electrical system, ventilation, and radio que 3567. Josh S. Re: (The refered to dies are ... ) was Where are 3568. DMC Joe Re: oil change 3569. Hank Breer Re: concourse 3570. Michael Babb Re: Electrical system, ventilation, and radio que 3571. Dingo added turbo light gauges-email 3572. Ann & Ed Thompson Re: concourse 3573. Charles Major DMC drawings 3574. Ann & Ed Thompson Re: Transmition ?? 3575. Marc A Levy Re: oil change 3576. Marc A Levy Re: Electrical system, ventilation, and radio que 3577. Marc A Levy Re: Original Window Lifts 3578. Marc A Levy Re: Where are the molding dies? 3579. Martin Gutkowski Re: rear fog lights 3580. Mr Copies Got a question for Bill Collins? I found him. 3581. Rendy Cheng Re: oil change 3582. Martin Gutkowski My Day at Dave's (v long) 3583. dcsj(AT)excite.com Re: oil change 3584. Robert Brandys Re: (The refered to dies are ... ) was Where are 3585. Martin Gutkowski Re: re-gassed struts 3586. Kelvin Re: DMC drawings and digital models 3587. TCRACIUN(AT)aol.com Re: Dealer Information 3588. Garrit Taylor Those darn hoses. 3589. mhc(AT)starshadow.com Re: DMC drawings and digital models 3590. Ian Foster Re: (The refered to dies are ... ) was Where are 3591. Michael Babb Re: DMC drawings and digital models 3592. Christopher Hawes Re: rear fog lights 3593. DMC Joe Re: oil change 3594. Montgomery, Ken DeLorean auto on new AP album cover 3595. Christopher Hawes Re: The dies were sunk because... 3596. MG36(AT)aol.com Re: (The refered to dies are ... ) was Where are 3597. Rob van der Veer Signal light conversion 3598. doctor280 Re: oil change 3599. doctor280 Re: Those darn hoses. 3600. Dave Swingle Re: Radio Question 3601. Sean Howley Re: Original Window Lifts 3602. Sean Howley Spelling corrections on the DML? -----------------------------------------------------------------
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)att.net> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:52:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Electrical system, ventilation, and radio questions from a newbie. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
The loss of ventilation through the upper vents is due to a defective AC Mode Control Switch (Parts Manual 7 / 3 / 0 fig# 7). The intermittent interior fan operation is caused by a defective circuit breaker (Parts Manual 3 / 7 / 0 fig# 22). Both items are available from DMC Houston & PJ Grady.
The radio LCD problem is common to all cars with the Craig radio, there is no fix for this . OEM replacement radios are available from both suppliers named above.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: Jesse D. Sightler <jsight(AT)mindspring.com> > Since bringing it into SC, however, the fan still seems to run > strongly, and feeling the intake on the front of the car (in front of > the windshield) it seems to pull strongly. However, the vents > themselves produce very little airflow. > > Also, earlier today while driving the car at night with the lighting on, > the fan temporarily switched off. At first, I thought that it was a > fuse failure, but a few minutes later I turned the fan back on and > everything was fine again. It's like it just temporarily overloaded. > But I also noticed that the one vent which was working earlier in the > day failed after this "trip". Any ideas as to the cause of these two > problems? > > Finally, I ran into a problem because the radio seems to work, but the > little LCD display doesn't. Has anyone else experienced this before, > and if so what was the problem (loose/broken connection somewhere, > etc). It is the original Delorean Craig radio. > > Thanks, > > --------------- > Jesse D. Sightler
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Steve <slevy007(AT)mindspring.com> asked: >why did they throw the dies in the ocean? What are the dies for?
re: the body panel dies, (pulled from the faq and also other postings on the list and the http://www.dmcnews.com site) there has never actually been any reasons given for the reasons they were thrown into the ocean. Apparently they are being used as underwater weights for somthing (I've never found any reference to what they're holding down ...), the problem is that, according to a friend of mine on the manufacturing business, the dies are basically useless after about 15- 20 minutes of contact with salt water, and the body dies have been underwater for oh ... quite a few years now.
As for the fiberglass floorpan dies, see the other extremely recient replies on the subject :-)
Josh S. (Lunatic at Small) now.here(AT)mindless.com VIN# Pending
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Any name brand 10-30 or 10-40 will do. Oil leaks from the oil pan are rare, the most common oil leak is from the oil sender switch/seal Parts Manual 1 / 2 / 0 fig# 3 & 4.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: rickaye(AT)webtv.net > To: dmcnews(AT)eGroups.com > Subject: [DML] oil change > Date: Monday, October 04, 1999 12:29 AM > > i'm now into two weeks of ownership of my delorean and it has been > great. since i haven't had the dcar long, i would like to do a little > maintance to ease my mind. what type of oil and oil filter would be > the best to use in an oil change. also i seem to have a small oil > leak. until i do the oil change, what would be that safest type of oil > to put in the enging until i do the change. the leak seems to be > comming from the bottom of the engine. excuse decription but it is > comming from the large bottom piece that has fins in it. what is this > called and what type of gasket should i ask for. > thanks for any help. > officer rick > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator(AT)dmcnews.com >
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A Concours d'Elegance is the top level of an automobile competition. Cars are judged with points being deducted for any deficiencies. A winning Concours car does not have to be completely original, but it should have only parts and accessories that were available when it was produced. The goal is to prepare your car to the peak of perfection. If the car appears to have just come from the factory, this may not be enough. The goal is to produce a car that looks the way it SHOULD have come from the factory, with perfect fit, finish, and functionality.
This leads to a problem. Many mixed marque car shows that advertise a Concours competition actually use the term to mean 'good-looking, clean cars'. They usually do not have a judge knowledgeable about DeLoreans, so originality may not be as much an issue as it should be. But if it is a concours, the cars are judged by a group of judges.
The alternative is a 'driver's choice' or 'people's choice' style of judging. Here, either the other entrants or the show attendees cast ballots. No rules on originality, just appearance.
In a true Concours d'Elegance, since you do not have the Goodyear NCT radial tires that came with the car, you would lose a point for tires. If a headlight has been replaced, you could lose another point if the replacement is not a Sylvania. However, your DeLorean may not have had the DMC luggage rack installed when it was first sold, but if you added one, it would still be perfectly correct, since it was available when the car was produced.
There is a Concours d'Elegance for DeLoreans at the DeLorean Owners Association Expo in St. Louis this coming weekend. The concours is sponsored by Stephen Wynne and DMC, Houston, so the quality of the judging should be very good.
Hank Breer
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I seam to remember some discussion about the LCD failure a while (probably = 2 years or so) back. You might want to search the archives...If memory ser= ves, there is a wire ribbon that gets pinched and can cause this failure. =
Can anyone else confirm this (again just going from a pretty shaky memory)
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Finally, I ran into a problem because the radio seems to work, but the little LCD display doesn't. Has anyone else experienced this before, and if so what was the problem (loose/broken connection somewhere, etc). It is the original Delorean Craig radio.
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 09:41:34 -0400 From: Ann & Ed Thompson <RappaRivaRat(AT)erols.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7t9aok$t7jb(AT)eGroups.com> Subject: [DML] Re: concourse Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> can anybody advise what a concorse compition is. > officer rick
Concorse: Not in dictionary. Compition: Not in dictionary. Concourse: 1: An act of coming together 2: An open space
It would be difficult if not impossible to determine how any or all of your words might relate to the DeLorean.
Perhaps you were referring to a "concors d'elegance competition". A concors d'elegance is a show of vehicles and accessories in which the entries are judged primarily on excellence of appearance and not necessarily on originality. Such a show is typically considered the best of the best. An exception to that is the annual best of the best Corvette judging show called "Bloomington Gold". A Bloomington Gold certified Corvette is a highly coveted and difficult to obtain award. I am not aware of an annual concors d'elegance competition exclusively for DeLoreans. Most concors d'elegance competitions involve much older vehicles where spare parts are nearly non existent and have to either be hand made or a replica part is used. Hence the vehicles are no longer "original" but nevertheless are "excellent of appearance".
Regards, Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982) Midlothian, VA
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Charles Major" <charlesmajor(AT)hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 06:18:38 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] DMC drawings Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Does anyone have engineering drawings of the DeLorean? I am looking for DXF or EPS format any ideas? Charles
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I was wondering what a DeLorean transmition is?
Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982)
> I was wondering, does the Delorean manual transmition spit out extra > tranny fluid when it is over filled? > Erik Geerdink
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The leak is most likely the oil sender. You can purchase both the oil sender, and filter (with new seal) from any of the De Lorean part suppliers. The type of oil you use would depend partly on the climate in your area, but 10W-30 should be fine for most cases.
You will also need the special tool for the oil drain plug. You can also purchase this from a De Lorean part supplier. You can also get it from a Snap-on truck, or make it yourself. Check you car before you order the tool. The previous owner may have changed the plug to a standard type.
rickaye(AT)webtv.net wrote: > > i'm now into two weeks of ownership of my delorean and it has been > great. since i haven't had the dcar long, i would like to do a little > maintance to ease my mind. what type of oil and oil filter would be > the best to use in an oil change. also i seem to have a small oil > leak. until i do the oil change, what would be that safest type of oil > to put in the enging until i do the change. the leak seems to be > comming from the bottom of the engine. excuse decription but it is > comming from the large bottom piece that has fins in it. what is this > called and what type of gasket should i ask for. > thanks for any help. > officer rick > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator(AT)dmcnews.com
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 08:31:54 -0400 From: Marc A Levy <malevy(AT)dnrc.bell-labs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <37F851B3.9741B7A7(AT)mindspring.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Electrical system, ventilation, and radio questions from a newbie. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
"Jesse D. Sightler" wrote: > First off, the ventilation system and electrical system seem to have a > problem which may or may not be related. When we test drove the car > earlier in California, the AC was not cold, but the ventilation was > quite good. The fan was strong and the airflow from the vents seemed > solid. Since bringing it into SC, however, the fan still seems to run > strongly, and feeling the intake on the front of the car (in front of > the windshield) it seems to pull strongly. However, the vents > themselves produce very little airflow.
No air flow from any of the vents? or just the center one... If it is just the center, it is possible someone removed the vent, and did not replace the rubber boots properly. You can check the back issues for the proper procedure for this.
I assume you have tried to open the vents with the small finger wheele next to each vent.
> Also, earlier today while driving the car at night with the lighting on, > the fan temporarily switched off. At first, I thought that it was a > fuse failure, but a few minutes later I turned the fan back on and > everything was fine again. It's like it just temporarily overloaded. > But I also noticed that the one vent which was working earlier in the > day failed after this "trip". Any ideas as to the cause of these two > problems?
Sounds like the circuit braker for the fans. Best bet is to replace the fan control relays with a Fanzilla from PJ Grady (www.pjgrady.com), and upgrade the brakers. I would do this ASAP. Those fans draw a lot of current, and generate a lot of heat in the electrical system (possibe fire hazzard). In addition, if the fans fail you could overheat the car. BTW, did the "Fan Fail" light come on? It is next to the headlight switch.
> Finally, I ran into a problem because the radio seems to work, but the > little LCD display doesn't. Has anyone else experienced this before, > and if so what was the problem (loose/broken connection somewhere, > etc). It is the original Delorean Craig radio.
This is a common problem on the craig radios. A while back, someone had said they were looking in to a replacement ribbon cable for the radio to fix the problem, but I have not heard anything about it in a while. The real fix is to replace the radio with something decent.
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Funny, I just replaced my original 3.5inch craig speakers with the Infinity co-axial speakers. I had to make a new fastener to hold them in because the studs in the dash were too short. I wonder how yours are held in? Or maybe you dont have the same model Infinity units.
Either way, why change them? The stock stereo was terrible even by 1981/82 standards.
Police6627(AT)aol.com wrote: > > can anyone tell me what type of speakers are on the front dash of the > delorean. the car has infinity speakers but i do no know if they are original.
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 08:05:37 -0400 From: Marc A Levy <malevy(AT)dnrc.bell-labs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <19991001172114.1240.qmail(AT)hotmail.com> <002701bf0d5a$3bfe4300$8228f7a5(AT)default> Subject: [DML] Re: Where are the molding dies? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
The story I heard, and I dont know if it is true or not, is that the large tools to make the body panels were sold to a fishing company, that used them to anchor fishing nets.
I also heard a rumor that some of the tools were later recovered..
I Dont know if any of this is true... It is all just talk.
S Levy wrote: > > why did they throw the dies in the ocean? What are the dies for? >
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All the factory fogs have a simple red rocker switch (50p from Maplin type switch) mounted in the blank switch to the right of the centre console. Spare blank switches are only a few dollars from DMC Houston if you're going to feel guilty :o)
Dave's right-hookers don't have fogs and get through the MOT with an "n/a" in that column. He and I agree that using the outer brake lights as fogs isn's aesthetically pleasing - I for one love the four stripes light up!
The mod I would do is replace the tail light bulbs with high-intensity (ie fog lights!) bulbs, then rig up a switch to power them either in series (each gets 6V) for tail lights, or Parallel (each gets 12V) for use as fogs. This has the added bonus that the bulbs'll last forever :o)
Martin
NBeatson(AT)aol.com wrote:
> A question for all UK D owners. > > We have to fit a high intensity rear fog light to meet current MOT standards. > Altering the rear lights is not a problem, but finding a switch to operate > the lights from the interior that doesn't look out of place is. > > What sort of switches have people used, have they been 'borrowed' from any > particular car? > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Nigel > Vin 2677 > Reg No. DOC 16V
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I'm running up next thursday to talk to Bill Collins (one of the guys respo= nsible for the Delorean Prototype).
If anyone is interested...email me privately with questions and I'll be hap= py to ask him.
Thanks mike(AT)mrcopies.com VIN #17089 Windsor, Ontario
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Last time I got the oil change Delorean service center in LA, Don gives me 6.5qt of 20w50.
> Any name brand 10-30 or 10-40 will do. Oil leaks from the oil pan are rare, > the most common oil leak is from the oil sender switch/seal Parts Manual 1 > / 2 / 0 fig# 3 & 4.
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Hi all,
There are posters on the wall in the London underground advertising the upcoming London Motor Show. They say "When was the last time you sat in a dream car?". I saw that today and was able to smile and say "I DROVE TWO yesterday!"
Okay, to be fair, they were both the same car.... here's the story. As usual there are accompanying photos on the website at http://delorean.connect-2.co.uk in both the Club Gallery and Members Cars pages.
I want to buy a DeLorean. I've found a way of financing the purchase and I'm starting to take a look at cars. Dave Howarth, the driving force behind DeLorean ownership in the UK, is thinking of selling his right-hand conversion (1982 grey interior, 12,000 miles on the clock) and has been kind enough to say he's in no rush and will wait for me to buy it.
Yesterday morning at 8am, I got into my car accompanied by fellow non-owner DeLorean freak Gareth Nunn and my flatmate and general car freak, James. We had agreed to meet up with fellow DML member Chris Hawes when we got to Manchester and then drive to Dave's. I won't bore you with the journey. It was boring. Stilll we made good time and arrived at Chris's at just gone midday.
Chris knew the way to Dave's and said "watch out for the covered DeLorean in the driveway". Dave lives in a Cul-de -Sac so he doesn't get many people driving past and his neighbours are all used to the cars on the driveway!
Dave has four cars on his drive - see the website - and we were able to drive two of them; the right-hand conversion I want to buy, and Chris Parham's factory right-hander. I will refer to these as the "grey" and "black" ones respectively (interiors).
Unfortunately the weather teased us mercifully all day (we drove through a downpour just south of Manchester on the way up) and the first task was to give the two cars on the drive a rub-down. Then Dave took the grey and black ones off the driveway and reversed the John Taylor car onto the driveway - pic on website. Dave then took Gareth off in the grey one to get some petrol, and just handed Chris and me the keys to the black one! "Take it out for a spin - whatever you like". We didn't need telling twice! Chris drove first and we took it out maybe a mile, then swapped over and I drove it back. I need not tell you all of the looks and double-takes we were treated to by other road users and pedestrians alike. It was the first time for me experiencing it first hand. The car was quick, but noisy (some work needs doing on the exhaust) - buy who cares? It was reponsive and cornered like it was on rails - I deliberately wanted to see how well it cornered and threw it round some tight bends without a squeak :o)
Poor James was left standing in the cold and I'd forgotten to leave him my car keys - so I sat in my car and turned the heaters on while he and Chris went out second time. I didn't have to wait long and Gareth and Dave were back in the grey one. Dave said he was having problems with second gear. We stood around and chatted for a bit while waiting for Chris and James to return, talking about the grey one and going over a few things - Dave likes to chat and we love to hear all the stories so we were perfectly contented until it started raining so we went into the garage to have look over the left hooker (Dave has been offered 50,000 pounds for that car but he says "that's my baby" and will never sell it). He agreed then that he'd start it up for us, but needed to pull the battery out of the grey one. Dave often swaps parts out of the other cars when he wants to drive one and a particular relay or whatever is missing or not working properly. Consequently all the relays have the registration number of the car it came from written on it!
Gareth was itching to have a drive so after James and Chris returned, he and I took the grey one out - Gareth took over quite soon and we drove the same route I took with Chris. Gareth soon discovered the visibility problem as we pulled out of a small side road, but ultimately cars stopped in both directions to let us out! Never happens in my Citroen :o) Verdict: much quieter, but Gareth and Chris both said later the brakes were "woody". Not that I noticed, my car has power assisted brakes so all others seem "woody"! Second gear worked fine, but there was no "clunk" when it engaged, so you were left wondering if it was in gear at all. Just a linkage adjustment Dave assured me.
On our return, Chris pulled out some of his models for us all to admire, and to cut a story already too long, Dave took a phone call and Chris wanted to drive the grey one so Gareth and I went out in the blackone, following James and Chris in the grey. Chris took us rather further than I'd expected - but including some dual-carriageway where we were able to pull up to 70mph together. Shame it started absolutely chucking at down at this point, but thats english weather for you...
We stopped and Gareth took the controls in the black one and James took them in the grey. We started back, but got separated on the carriageway and Gareth and I missed the turn-off. We decided to carry on a couple of miles to put some petrol in the black one as the light was coming on. I rang James' mobile and they came to meet us.
At the petrol station, I swapped to the grey one to drive with James and unfortunately after putting petrol in the black one, Gareth couldn't start it! We had pulled in to the far right of the petrol station and it started raining again... just as I experienced the joy of having people come over to look at the cars and ask questions! (most amusing was this guy's comment that he'd nuged his wife and said "get a good look at that car, you'll never see another one on the road again... and another one pulled up!") getting colder and wetter, I rang Dave and his friend came out to try and get it started. Gareth went a bit red because it started first time (he's a mechanic). [for all of you saying "hot start problem", it wasn't that].
On our return I plugged in the laptop I'd borrowed from work and dialled up to the internet so Dave could get a taste of "our" world. I think I'm winning him over, just showing him the vast amount of traffic through the back issues of the DML had him making noises in the direction of going on line. I jokingly commented that if he sold me the car for a discount, I'd sort him out with a computer and get him on line and show him how to use it. I don't know if he took me seriously, but I'll keep on at him!
I don't remember when Dave put the battery in the left-hander, but we rolled it out and he started it up. WOW! For all those who say the PRV-6 cannot sound like the BTTF car, you have to hear it! Not QUITE as throaty, but damn close!
Chris took video of that and much of us driving the cars - hopefully I can have some clips up on the site soon (Chris?)
Anyway, this is already too long - hope you've found it interesting!
Martin
DeLorean Owners Club UK http://delorean.connect-2.co.uk
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: dcsj(AT)excite.com Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 15:02:06 PDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: oil change Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On Sun, 03 Oct 1999 21:29:48 -0700, rickaye(AT)webtv.net wrote:
> i'm now into two weeks of ownership of my delorean and it has been > great. since i haven't had the dcar long, i would like to do a little > maintance to ease my mind. what type of oil and oil filter would be > the best to use in an oil change. also i seem to have a small oil > leak. until i do the oil change, what would be that safest type of oil > to put in the enging until i do the change. the leak seems to be > comming from the bottom of the engine. excuse decription but it is > comming from the large bottom piece that has fins in it. what is this > called and what type of gasket should i ask for. > thanks for any help. > officer ric > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator(AT)dmcnews.com
the metal thing with the fins on it is your oil pan. If it is coated in oil, I doubt very much that its the gasket for it that is leaking. most of the time it usually comes from a higher up source on the engine ie;rockercovers,oilpressure switch on drivers side of engine or most likely a crankshaft seal. One amazing thing about the D engine is that it has a very high capacity oil sump 6.8 qts so call it 7 qts. most cars have between 4 and 5 qts. It would be best to change the oil first before just adding anything too the existing oil. This way you know where your at to begin with. I personally use a fully synthetic oil but thats my choice. You don't have too. Any top grade oil will do, as long as you change it on a regular basis. the owners handbook recommends ever 7500 mi. if you use the original Purflux type oil filter. btw: thats the european standard for oil change intervals. typical US is every 3000mi. The purflux filter is recommended by all the delorean suppliers because it is made differently than your typical american brand name filters. I use a 5w-50 grade oil but the standard 10w-30 or 10w-40 is fine depending on the climate you drive in. Just remember that when you go to your local parts store for engine related items to tell them you have an 81 volvo 260 series with the B28F engine this will get you most things for your engine, but not all. Some items are delorean specific availiable only through your favorite delorean supplier.Btw; the use of a delorean parts supplier is highly remmended unless you enjoy trying to chase down parts for an obscure vehical like the delorean.IMO
Dennis vin 5180
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 17:06:29 +0000 From: Robert Brandys <oehcs(AT)flash.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <199910041915.PAA09249(AT)pop02.iname.net> Subject: [DML] Re: (The refered to dies are ... ) was Where are the molding dies? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
The reason the dies were removed from the DeLorean plant by the BRITISH ARMY was to insure DeLorean could make no more cars and stay in business.
What was the british army doing in a citizens business (this is illegal unless Marshlaw has been declared), unless the British government (Thacher-Reagan's girl friend) was in on the deal to get rid of DeLorean. Reagan of course was in also in bed with big business. GM etc.
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 22:52:20 +0100 From: Martin Gutkowski <martin.is(AT)connect-2.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <199910011020_MC2-872C-3BC1(AT)compuserve.com> Subject: [DML] Re: re-gassed struts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Dave says he has re-gassed struts still working fine after going on 4 years. Sorry, no details on the process, they're all sent off to a company in London.
Martin
John Hanley wrote:
> Message text written by INTERNET:dmcnews(AT)egroups.com > > > I can't speak for the lifespan (seeing Dave this weekend and will ask) but > I don't think > anyone over here has a bad word to say. > < > > Martin, > I can advise that I had one of mine, (Drivers door) replaced some two years > ago with a new one and that replacement is now failing.
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>Does anyone have engineering drawings of the DeLorean? I am looking for DXF >or EPS format any ideas? >Charles
Along these same lines, does anyone know of any good quality 3D digital models of the D? If the response is "no" then I too will be looking for engineering drawings of the D so I can build a high quality 3D model myself. DXF files would save me the trouble! Thanks!
Kelvin
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: TCRACIUN(AT)aol.com Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 18:38:48 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Dealer Information Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
San Francisco 94132 Don Lucas Cadillac, INC 3160-20 th Ave Cadillac 415-564-7400
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I recently became the proud owner of an 81 DeLorean, and some of the coolant hoses on it have become old and have started to rot(specifically the ones attached to the coolant tank). My question is, if I replace them, will I have to pull the engine to get to all of them, or is it possible to reach them all without that much effort?
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Kelvin,
Lightwave 5.0 comes with a .lwo of the back to the future DeLorean. I believe I have a copy of it if you're interested.
-Christian (no DMC yet)
On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Kelvin wrote:
> >Does anyone have engineering drawings of the DeLorean? I am looking for DXF > >or EPS format any ideas? > >Charles > > Along these same lines, does anyone know of any good quality 3D digital > models of the D? If the response is "no" then I too will be looking for > engineering drawings of the D so I can build a high quality 3D model > myself. DXF files would save me the trouble! Thanks! > > > Kelvin > > > > > __________________________ > > Kelvin Mason > Assistant Professor of Art > West Virginia Wesleyan College > 1-(304)-473-8588 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator(AT)dmcnews.com > >
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Robert,
Where did you hear this 'gem' of information ... sounds like B.S. to me! As far as I recall the dies were dumped in Galway Bay in the Republic of Ireland. I doubt very much if the 'Brits' took them there ... maybe it was "the Little Folk!"
Cheers, IAN ************************************* ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Brandys <oehcs(AT)flash.net> > The reason the dies were removed from the DeLorean plant by the BRITISH > ARMY was to insure DeLorean could make no more cars and stay in > business. > > What was the british army doing in a citizens business (this is illegal > unless Marshlaw has been declared), unless the British government > (Thacher-Reagan's girl friend) was in on the deal to get rid of > DeLorean. Reagan of course was in also in bed with big business. GM etc. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator(AT)dmcnews.com > >
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This is the only place that I have seen a 3D model of a DeLorean
http://www.future-primitive.com/gallery/vehicles/delorean.html
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Christopher Hawes" <cmhdevelopment(AT)hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 00:44:22 BST Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: rear fog lights Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
As far as I know cars manufactured before 1981 or 1983 (cannot remember which) in the UK do NOT legally have to have foglamps. Therefore 'not applicable' marked on the MOT form will still allow the car to pass.
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Dave's right-hookers don't have fogs and get through the MOT with an "n/a" in that column. He and I agree that using the outer brake lights as fogs isn's aesthetically pleasing - I for one love the four stripes light up!
The mod I would do is replace the tail light bulbs with high-intensity (ie fog lights!) bulbs, then rig up a switch to power them either in series (each gets 6V) for tail lights, or Parallel (each gets 12V) for use as fogs. This has the added bonus that the bulbs'll last forever :o)
Martin
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)att.net> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 18:51:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: oil change Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
That's fine.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: Rendy Cheng <rcheng(AT)eng.umd.edu> > > Last time I got the oil change Delorean service center in LA, Don gives me 6.5qt of 20w50.
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Montgomery, Ken" <kenm(AT)csus.edu> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:33:13 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] DeLorean auto on new AP album cover Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
A new CD has just come out by Alan Parsons called 'The Time Machine'. On the cover is a photo of a 'D' with the doors up. From the plate on the front of the car I'd say it's from Europe. There are also several other photos on the cover, like the TARDIS from Dr. WHO and a rabbit(?). It's NOT one of the BTTF cars, just a normal DeLorean. Does anyone know who's car this is?
For those of you not familiar with 'The Alan Parsons Project', Mr. Parsons albums have always been based around themes. Obviously the theme of this album is time. "The music and lyrics explore the relationship that time has with us both individually and collectively, how time and space are linked together, and how more things around us are "time machines" than they appear to be" (which must explain rabbit).
You can see the cover on Amazon at:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00001NFFB/o/qid=939078156/sr=8-1 /002-2845678-1036418
================================================================ Ken Montgomery Sacramento, CA VIN #10911 'OUTTIME' http://www.jps.net/arkham/delorean01.htm mailto:kenm(AT)csus.edu Northern California DeLorean Motor Club http://members.tripod.com/ncdmc/ Keeper of the DeLorean Owners Directory http://www.dmcnews.com mailto:directory(AT)dmcnews.com ================================================================
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Christopher Hawes" <cmhdevelopment(AT)hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 00:34:51 BST Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: The dies were sunk because... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
The dies were chucked into the sea so that no more cars could be made. The British Government were not very happy at the time (Delorean owed 70 million odd pounds) and wanted the venture to NEVER revive itself from certain oblivion...
Christopher M. Hawes DMD (Delorean Model Dealership)
----Original Message Follows---- >why did they throw the dies in the ocean? What are the dies for?
re: the body panel dies, (pulled from the faq and also other postings on the list and the http://www.dmcnews.com site) there has never actually been any reasons given for the reasons they were thrown into the ocean. Apparently they are being used as underwater weights for somthing (I've never found any reference to what they're holding down ...), the problem is that, according to a friend of mine on the manufacturing business, the dies are basically useless after about 15- 20 minutes of contact with salt water, and the body dies have been underwater for oh ... quite a few years now.
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The dies are holding down salmon nets. In those years they had just discovered the salmon 'runs'. Some nets are are miles across.
The British Government sold them for this purpose.
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Hi y'all, I was browsing around Delorean sites and stumbled across the page of the Uk owners club.Here I saw that some people had modified there front side lights in the way that they double the signal lights (for turning). For safety, I'd like to make the same conversion. Does anybody know how to do the wiring? Cya,
Rob van der Veer, NL. VIN 3695. BTW. My car had a lot of problems with acceleration - but since I changed the fuel filter everything is o.k. now (super is a better word). TIP: Check your fuel filter. I also found out that my car doesn't have a catalyc converter but have the free-flow exhaust modification installed!!! --------- Robinson Crusoe had everything done by friday..
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lot of problems with acceleration - but since I changed the fuel filter =
everything is o.k. now (super is a better word). TIP: Check your fuel filte= r. I =
also found out that my car doesn't have a catalyc converter but have the =
free-flow exhaust modification installed!!!</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>---------</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1>Robinson Crusoe had everything done by =
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Before the oil tread gets dumped again, I would like to point out something= that I discovered. =
The oil recommendations in the Owners Manual and the Work Shop Manual do no= t match. The Work Shop Manual does call for the thicker oil like 20W50 with= temps. above 14 degrees F. I prefer the 20W50 for the climate that I resid= e in, but it will ultimately be your decision to make.
Sitting back and taking the credit,
Robert Starling =
Vin#5252
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will ultimately be your decision to make.</P> <P><FONT face=3DArial>Sitting back and taking the credit,</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3DArial>Robert Starling</FONT><FONT face=3DArial> </FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3DArial>Vin#5252</FONT></P></FONT>
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the coolant =
> hoses on it have become old and have started to rot(specifically the ones= =
> attached to the coolant tank). My question is, if I replace them, will I= =
> have to pull the engine to get to all of them, or is it possible to reach= =
> them all without that much effort? =
Dont pull the engine !!! All the coolant hoses can be replaced without rem= oving the engine. Some of the hoses are more difficult to get to then other= s, but you can get to all of them. It is best to have a lift or put the car= on jack stands to get the ones under the car. There are 15 or 16 hoses on = the Delorean ( I loose count ). It will be best to replace all the hoses. T= he hoses are offered in a kit from your friendly Delorean part suppliers.
Sitting back and taking the credit, Robert Starling Vin#5252 =
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started to rot(specifically the ones <BR>> attached to the coolant =
tank). My question is, if I replace them, will I <BR>> have to pul= l the =
engine to get to all of them, or is it possible to reach <BR>> them all =
without that much effort?<BR> </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT color=3D#ff0000><STRONG>Dont pull the engine =
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replaced without removing the engine. Some of the hoses are more difficult = to =
get to then others, but you can get to all of them. It is best to have= a =
lift or put the car on jack stands to get the ones under the car. There are= 15 =
or 16 hoses on the Delorean ( I loose count ). It will be best to replace a= ll =
the hoses. The hoses are offered in a kit from your friendly Delorean = part =
suppliers.</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT color=3D#ff0000></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT color=3D#ff0000><FONT color=3D#0000ff>Sitting bac= k and =
taking the credit,</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT color=3D#ff0000><FONT color=3D#0000ff>Robert =
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle(AT)enteract.com> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 22:57:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] re: Radio Question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
The Craig radio has a crummy plastic flex circuit that feeds the LED that lights up the display on the tape door. If it still works, it means that no one ever used the tape deck. After opening and closing the door a few times (by playing tapes), the printed wiring breaks. There are a couple of archived write-ups on the www.dmcnews.com site, at http://www.dmcnews.com/Techsection/radiodisplay.html
You can either wire around the flex circuit (sacrificing the tape deck). attempt to fix the flex circuit, or buy a new radio. A list member once looked into reproducing the flex circuit, but it was not economically feasible.
New Craig radios are still available from the DMC suppliers at about $250. Crutchfield sells a Kenwood that fits without cutting the dash for $99. Many aftermarket radios will fit if you cut the dash.
dave
Jesse D Sightler wrote: >Finally, I ran into a problem because the radio seems to work, but the >little LCD display doesn't. Has anyone else experienced this before, >and if so what was the problem (loose/broken connection somewhere, >etc). It is the original Delorean Craig radio.
Thanks,
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I too used the Infinity speakers in the dash. I too ran into the fastener problem. Although, I had an additional problem. The additional tweeter (?) actually stuck up higher than the cardboard spacer ring on the front. When initially installed, the inner tweeter actually deformed the dash. I made an additional spacer to allow proper clearance of the inner tweeter and by using some threaded stand-offs, was able to mount the speakers. They sound GREAT!
Sean Howley VIN#2345
> Funny, I just replaced my original 3.5inch craig speakers with the > Infinity co-axial speakers. I had to make a new fastener to hold them > in because the studs in the dash were too short. I wonder how yours are > held in? Or maybe you dont have the same model Infinity units.
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Does anyone in the DML believe that this forum should be used for correcting a persons misspelling. I am by no means a good speller and if it weren't for a spell check, it is scary how many words would be misspelled. The DML should be used for talking about the DeLorean and not putting down our peers for their grammar and spelling.
Ed Thompson's post that is below should have not even gotten past the moderator and Ed, your "concors d'elegance competition" explanation could have begun a little better that your dictionary analysis - ridiculous!
Sean Howley VIN#2345
> I was wondering what a DeLorean transmition is? > > Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982) > > > I was wondering, does the DeLorean manual transmition spit out extra > > tranny fluid when it is over filled? > > Erik Geerdink
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