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----------------------------------------------------------------- 3619. Danrc30 Bruce....why didn't you post this? It's about fib 3620. Watkins Family Horns 3621. Watkins Family Steering wheel bolt size 3622. Montgomery, Ken Re: Production Chronology/ Owners Directory 3623. ToniLFHS98(AT)aol.com Re: Radio Question 3624. CBL302(AT)aol.com Re: Those darn hoses. 3625. Michael Babb Re: Service question 3626. CBL302(AT)aol.com Mysterious Findings in warehouse 3627. Reggie_Knowlton(AT)vapower.com Re: body panels 3628. delorean502(AT)excite.com frame 3629. Martin Gutkowski Re: rear fog lights 3630. Kelvin Re: Service question 3631. magriese(AT)us.ibm.com Re: body panels 3632. mdeluca(AT)comtechpst.com Re: body panels 3633. robert parker Re: Electrical system, ventilation, and radio que 3634. eGroups.com Poll Results Voting Results: How many people own more than 1 d 3635. Josh S. Re: Wrecked DeLoreans (or: How Well the Fiberglas 3636. doctor280 Re: Service Questions... 3637. delorean502(AT)excite.com Buzzing noise 3638. NBeatson(AT)aol.com Re: rear fog lights 3639. Marc A Levy Re: The dies were sunk because... 3640. Mike Substelny Re: Fiberglass panels (was body panels) 3641. william menelli Delorean for sale 3642. BRUCE BENSON Re: body panels 3643. BRUCE BENSON Bricklin Parts 3644. mnoeltne(AT)ezl.com Reminder: Autocross in St. Louis! 3645. DMC Joe Re: Steering wheel bolt size 3646. DMC Joe Re: Service question 3647. DMC Joe Re: Horns 3648. David Sontos DeLoreans and car shows 3649. Jim Rear Fascia bumper flaking 3650. Steve Pattison Follow up to frustrating Starting Problem 3651. doctor280 Re: Radio Question 3652. doctor280 Re: Follow up to frustrating Starting Problem 3653. doctor280 Re: frame -----------------------------------------------------------------
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Danrc30" <Danrc30(AT)hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 20:51:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Bruce....why didn't you post this? It's about fiberglass panels... Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01DA_01BF0F73.65647000" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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Yes, mold's could be made rather easily for the D. It wouldn't be cheap, bu= t not too bad I presume. But what would you do about the doors? They would b= e extremely difficult to replicate out of fiberflass. And the doors are a structural member of the chassis. Would fiberglass doors be safe in an accident or even safe to drive with? Probably not. They would cause a lot o= f chassis flex and probably end up cracking. So you are stuck with painting your stainless doors to match the fiberglass body. How many would be willin= g to do that? Probably not enough to offset the cost of making the fiberglass body panels. So, what's the answer? Well, I don't know. I do know that you need a serious chunk of material to make a mold to stamp SS panels. Maybe they aren't in as bad condition as everyone thinks they are. If they are damaged, maybe they can be repaired if they were resurrected. Something to think about.
Anyone have the phone number to that fishing company?
---Dan #5493
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about the doors? They would be<BR>extremely difficult to replicate out of =
fiberflass. And the doors are a<BR>structural member of the chassis. Would =
fiberglass doors be safe in an<BR>accident or even safe to drive with? Prob= ably =
not. They would cause a lot of<BR>chassis flex and probably end up =
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 17:41:13 -0400 From: Watkins Family <watbmv(AT)megalink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Horns Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
No argument here, Joe. Sorry if my post seemed to belittle our OEM horns. My horns were 18 years old, very tired and have surely seen too much of the "elements". I'm sure the OEM's sound great new. I was just happy to find an adequate replacement set at a good price at a Nationally known car parts store.
As for the Horn relay, Do our cars have a horn relay? and do you think the replacement that came with the new horns is worth keeping?
Tom
#5732
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In defense of the OEM horns and just for the record you should know that
they sound great when they are new. After 18 years of being exposed to the elements they gradually loose sound quality and volume.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 17:39:53 -0400 From: Watkins Family <watbmv(AT)megalink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Steering wheel bolt size Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
What is the correct size socket for the nut holding the steering wheel in place underneath the removeable padding on the center of the wheel?? I don't seem to have the right size or the correct length socket.
Tom
#5732
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Montgomery, Ken" <kenm(AT)csus.edu> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 17:06:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Production Chronology/ Owners Directory Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Well fellow Delorean Owners is almost October, the month that > the Production Chronology is suppose to be updated. I posted > my vehicle almost a year ago and have been patiently waiting > for the update. It will be interesting to see how > many Deloreans are accounted for. > Ken what's the word????????
Hi everyone. Well, the list is still a go for October. I will have my first printed list (about 100 copies) available in St. Louis at the product fair this coming Saturday. To get a copy you have to be an owner and already be on the list or fill out a form to get added to the list. In St. Louis, the DML people will discuss the future of the DML and as part of that, how to disseminate copies of the Owners Directory. That's as far as we've managed to get. Please be patient. After all, we're doing this for free (Actually, free to you. Some of us are picking up the tab to pay for the DML operations).
================================================================ Ken Montgomery Sacramento, CA VIN #10911 'OUTTIME' http://www.jps.net/arkham/delorean01.htm mailto:kenm(AT)csus.edu Northern California DeLorean Motor Club http://members.tripod.com/ncdmc/ Keeper of the DeLorean Owners Directory http://www.dmcnews.com mailto:directory(AT)dmcnews.com ================================================================
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: ToniLFHS98(AT)aol.com Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 18:54:19 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: re: Radio Question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In a message dated 10/5/99 6:11:51 AM Central Daylight Time, dswingle(AT)enteract.com writes:
> New Craig radios are still available from the DMC suppliers at about $250. > Crutchfield sells a Kenwood that fits without cutting the dash for $99. Many > aftermarket radios will fit if you cut the dash.
Who is Crutchfield? Can someone supply the contact info.?
Bill VIN# 2157
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: CBL302(AT)aol.com Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 18:40:08 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Those darn hoses. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In a message dated 10/5/99 6:23:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jtrealty(AT)webspan.net writes:
<< although it is true the engine does not need to be removed tou will need to disassemble the top of it to get to the hoses behind the water pump.Also check the "o" rings under the water distribution pipe. Before you reassemble the engine pressure test to 10-12 psiat least for 15 min >>
Also when you replace the hoses under the Intake manifold be sure to put on two hose clamps on each end as insurance that the hoses will not leak.(they are real hard to get at if they should come loose or leak)
Claude Vin#000570
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Michael Babb" <michael.babb(AT)mindspring.com> References: <7td66h$1bod(AT)eGroups.com> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 16:46:44 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Service question Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0022_01BF0F51.351CA2E0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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Erik,
I have run into the same problems, but have also been lucky to find people = fairly close that were adept at working on the DeLorean. I would suggest c= alling DMC-Houston and see if they have any suggestions for shops. When I = moved back to Colorado, Warren informed me of a place that had ordered part= s from them in the past, and BINGO, I had found someone not just willing to= work on the car, but actually knew what they were doing. (currently havin= g the engine rebuilt by them).
good luck in your quest
Michael Babb VIN 3472 ----- Original Message ----- =
From: delorean502(AT)excite.com =
To: dmcnews(AT)eGroups.com =
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 9:41 AM Subject: [DML] Service question
Is it just me, or do a lot of other people have problems finding a service place for the Delorean? Nobody in Holland Michigan wants to work on my Delorean, except "Ma and Pa" shops. I wanted to get my transmission (correct spelling??) looked at by a place called Holland Transmission. My dad recommended me going there since we went to church with the owner and he was a really nice guy and cared about his customers. I got reamed for having a Delorean when I called him. "I wouldn't come 10 miles from that car" "I don't even want to see that thing" this is what the guy told me. that nice guy that my dad goes to church with. anyway, does anybody else have any good stories about service people and your Deloreans? I have about 20 of them! =
Erik Geerdink 4512 EGGS D
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fairly close that were adept at working on the DeLorean. I would sugg= est =
calling DMC-Houston and see if they have any suggestions for shops. W= hen I =
moved back to Colorado, Warren informed me of a place that had ordered part= s =
from them in the past, and BINGO, I had found someone not just willing to w= ork =
on the car, but actually knew what they were doing. (currently having= the =
engine rebuilt by them).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>good luck in your quest</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Michael Babb</DIV> <DIV>VIN 3472</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE =
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service place for the Delorean? Nobody in Holland Michigan wants to
work on my Delorean, except "Ma and Pa" shops. I wanted to get my
transmission (correct spelling??) looked at by a place called Holland
Transmission. My dad recommended me going there since we went to
church with the owner and he was a really nice guy and cared about his
customers. I got reamed for having a Delorean when I called him. "I
wouldn't come 10 miles from that car" "I don't even want to see that
thing" this is what the guy told me. that nice guy that my dad goes
to church with. anyway, does anybody else have any good stories about
service people and your Deloreans? I have about 20 of them! =
Erik Geerdink 4512 EGGS D
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: CBL302(AT)aol.com Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 18:28:36 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Mysterious Findings in warehouse Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
As I have read in the past DML about finding undiscovered (Delorean) treasures at the old Kapac warehouse,does anybody know if any past Bricklin parts (or Cars)in secret or blocked off rooms were discovered in there also,being that all the Bricklin cars and parts wound up in the same warehouse,as they also bought out the factory equipment and all the Bricklin parts and whatever cars were at the factory when that was shut down also back in late 1975.
Claude Vin#000570
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Reggie_Knowlton(AT)vapower.com Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:35:44 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: body panels Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
You're comparing a limited edition automobile to one that was birthed during the early days of rock & roll, can't be done! Here's why: DeLoreans' are rare and if you start putting glass panels on them it can and will destroy the image, sorry, just be a careful driver or a really good metalworker in stainless
Donald Kazmark <donald.kazmark(AT)peri.com> on 10/05/99 02:36:11 PM
Please respond to dmcnews(AT)egroups.com
To: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com cc: (bcc: Reggie Knowlton/IT/VANCPOWER)
Subject: [DML] body panels
Here's a question....... We all know that Corvette owners can easily get remake fiberglass panels for their cars, and I was wondering if their was a possiblity of creating fiberglass panels for the D. Well, I was flipping through my copy of Stainless Stell I llusion and saw a picture of a yellow D on a lift at Lotus during development. The caption goes on to say that the car was an early prototype with fiberglass panels, so here goes, Would it be difficult to create a mold from existing stainless panels , and manufacture fiberglass panels for the D that could be painted, without sacrificing the supply of stainless panels? Maybe other materials coulf be used also (i.e. saturns?)
-Donald Kazmark No Vin yet.......
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 11:30:33 -0700 From: delorean502(AT)excite.com Subject: [DML] frame Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
what is the best way to recoat some of the frame? the area that holds the engine has some rust and some chipping. since I don't have money for a framedown restoration right now OR the stainless steel frame, I need to know what kind of epoxy to use and what I have to do before I apply it. is there a lot of sanding involved and rewelding? thanks for the help
Erik Geerdink 4512 EGGS D
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 18:38:10 +0100 From: Martin Gutkowski <martin.is(AT)connect-2.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <85256801.0042AB63.00(AT)smtpmta.vapower.com> Subject: [DML] Re: rear fog lights Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
FYI all UK cars must have REAR fog lights which are simply bright red lights. Most UK D's use two of the brake lights as the fogs
Martin
Reggie_Knowlton(AT)vapower.com wrote:
> Sorry guys but if you put hi-intensity lamps in place of the regular lamps the > circuit may not handle the added amperage and you'll surelly destroy the lens in > front of the lamp, these lamps get "VERY HOT".
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 99 13:42:22 -0500 From: Kelvin <mason_k(AT)wvwc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Service question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
These service posts got me curious about what the local mechanics would say about servicing a D. So, I called up the certified Volvo mechanic in my town thinking that he would have experience working on this type of engine. As soon as I mentioned the "D" word I was immediately met with a wall of nasty and negative comments that lasted a full two minutes without a word from me edgewise. He was commenting strictly on the engine, not the car in general. Apparently, he was quite familiar with the engine in question and hated working on them. He invited me down to the auto shop he owned to see this engine and the mess it was making out of a Volvo he had on the lot. I quietly declined. Then he ended with: "Delorean's a nice lookin' car though..."
One thing for sure, this guy was adamant.
Lets hear a cheery rebuttal that would this guy in his place... ??
Kelvin
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: magriese(AT)us.ibm.com Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:20:11 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: body panels Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
It wouldn't be hard at all to pull molds from the DeLorean body panels. The problem is making panels that would fit. The hood wouldn't be much of a problem because you can replace the whole thing. The rest of the stainless skin on a DeLorean is very thin - fibreglass panels the same thickness would be too fragile. The first bump would fracture them. If you made them thick enough they wouldn't fit properly.
Plus - you still have to have stainless doors.
Mike Griese Storage Software Development Manager IBM Storage Systems Division Rochester, MN 55901 Internet: magriese(AT)us.ibm.com voice: (507)253-1853 fax: (507)253-2880
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 10:16:46 -0700 From: mdeluca(AT)comtechpst.com In-Reply-To: <19991006034833.IMO20426(AT)delorean> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: body panels Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I would think that the first problem with fiberglass body panels would be that they would have to be much thicker then SS and would not fit, the second problem is that you would now have to paint the car because you could never match the original look of stainless. I'm also under the impression that there is sufficient body panels in existence at Delorean Motor Company and from parts cars at PJ Grady and the like that would be a more cost effective solution then the fabrication of special non conforming body panel that some would probably argue would ruin the car. I'm also under the impression that the actual demand for such panels is not all that great in comparison to the existing supply of OEM parts both new and used.
Mike D. Vin 3113 NY Lic. DLORIANN
I'M STILL IN PROCCES OF TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER A NORTHEAST/LONG ISLAND DELOREAN ASSOCIATION NY, NJ, CT, RI=85??? ANYONE INTERESTED, please email me privately Mdeluca(AT)comtechpst.com
"dmc joe" <dmcjo-(AT)att.net> wrote: original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=3D3616 > I don't have an answer but that is a very good question. > > DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> > Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com> > > > From: Donald Kazmark <donald.kazmark(AT)peri.com> > > > > Here's a question....... > > We all know that Corvette owners can easily get remake fiberglass panels > > for their cars, and I was wondering if their was a possiblity of > > creating fiberglass panels for the D. Well, I was flipping through my > > copy of Stainless Stell I llusion and saw a picture of a yellow D on a > > lift at Lotus during development. The caption goes on to say that the > > car was an early prototype with fiberglass panels, so here goes, Would > > it be difficult to create a mold from existing stainless panels , and > > manufacture fiberglass panels for the D that could be painted, without > > sacrificing the supply of stainless panels? Maybe other materials coulf > > be used also (i.e. saturns?) > > > > -Donald Kazmark > > No Vin yet....... >
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "robert parker" <roberthparker(AT)hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 09:33:55 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Electrical system, ventilation, and radio questions from a newbie. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In Re: LCD problem in Craig radios. Indeed there is a fix for this! My little brother (Elect. Eng. & gadgeteer) replaced the power ribbon with a heavier duty one. The tape door closes a bit slower, but ALL the LCD's work. Minimal effort, & no expense for me. Drive Stainless Robert VIN 6924 (See you in St. Louis)
>From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)att.net> >Reply-To: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com >To: <dmcnews(AT)egroups.com> >Subject: [DML] Re: Electrical system, ventilation, and radio questions from >a newbie. >Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:52:21 -0400 > >The loss of ventilation through the upper vents is due to a defective AC >Mode Control Switch (Parts Manual 7 / 3 / 0 fig# 7). The intermittent >interior fan operation is caused by a defective circuit breaker (Parts >Manual 3 / 7 / 0 fig# 22). Both items are available from DMC Houston & PJ >Grady. > >The radio LCD problem is common to all cars with the Craig radio, there is >no fix for this . OEM replacement radios are available from both suppliers >named above. > >DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> >Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com> > >---------- > > From: Jesse D. Sightler <jsight(AT)mindspring.com> > > > Since bringing it into SC, however, the fan still seems to run > > strongly, and feeling the intake on the front of the car (in front of > > the windshield) it seems to pull strongly. However, the vents > > themselves produce very little airflow. > > > > Also, earlier today while driving the car at night with the lighting on, > > the fan temporarily switched off. At first, I thought that it was a > > fuse failure, but a few minutes later I turned the fan back on and > > everything was fine again. It's like it just temporarily overloaded. > > But I also noticed that the one vent which was working earlier in the > > day failed after this "trip". Any ideas as to the cause of these two > > problems? > > > > Finally, I ran into a problem because the radio seems to work, but the > > little LCD display doesn't. Has anyone else experienced this before, > > and if so what was the problem (loose/broken connection somewhere, > > etc). It is the original Delorean Craig radio. > > > > Thanks, > > > > --------------- > > Jesse D. Sightler > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address >moderator(AT)dmcnews.com > >
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 02:08:47 -0700 From: "eGroups.com Poll Results" <dswingle(AT)enteract.com> Subject: [DML] Voting Results: How many people own more than 1 delorean.Or other Gullwinged cars Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Here are the results of the vote:
1. 1 and a Project 1 2. 2 Deloreans 2 3. Deloreans and a Bricklin 2 4. Still dreaming about owning 1 17
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Robert asked: >I know this is a pretty dark and dismal subject, but I was wondering >if anyone had any pictures of wrecked DeLoreans? This will put to >rest my suspicions of whether or not the fiberglass/ERM (whatever, I >can't think right now) frame holds up diuring a collision. I have >already seen the Mich. riots D, and a few D's in junkyards-type pics, but not one >of a DeLorean that has suffered an impact of some sort.
The DeLorean frame is actually an epoxy covered steel, which has been known to have problems with rust. There was one(?) composite frame that was used in one of the prototypes, but that didn't make it into production. Even though at least one of the original brochures had the exotic frame listed as a component.
If frame concerns are a major issue, due to rust on an otherwise marvelous DeLorean, check out Bryan Pearce's Permaframe WWW page at:
http://www.pearce-design.com/html/permaframe.html
A complete frame replacment made out of stainless steel.
As a minor side note, at least one of the Safety Program release notes if I remember correctly dealt specifically with strengthening front end impact resistance (someone correct me if I am not remembering correctly ... ), but I don't have the Technical notes with me right now to look it up ...
I wish you the best with whatever car you finally decide on :-)
Josh Seely now.here(AT)mindless.com Vin: Pending
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Great point! Also you might want to attempt to locate a Volvo mechanic. The= mechanic that I use on the big things, that I dont wont to tackle, calls m= y car a Volvo with the engine in backwards. He charges $35.00 and hour and = gets the time for the repairs from the Volvo book.
Robert Starling Vin#5252 =
> My first DeLorean (God rest it's tender chassis) was a nightmare. It spe= nt more time in the shop then it did on the road. However, ANY mechanic wo= rth his/her salt who does work on foreign cars should be able to tackle a p= roblem with little or no trouble. And if you get your parts from Ed, Steve= or Rob, they will usually help your mechanic out over the phone. > =
> Colby Knight > vin: 15596 (1983) > =
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book.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Robert Starling</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Vin#5252 </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV><FONT size=3D2>> My first DeLorean (God rest it's tende= r =
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 06:39:25 -0700 From: delorean502(AT)excite.com Subject: [DML] Buzzing noise Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I posted this a while back, but no posts on the subject. When ever I go into 5th gear I hear a buzzing noise behind me and to the left. I could be going the exact same speed in 4th gear and not hear it, but as soon as I go into 5th, I hear it. It gets a higher pitch the faster I go. Does anybody have any suggestions on the subject? The tranny was rebuilt a couple years back (two I think). Thanks for the help.
Erik Geerdink 4512 EGGS D
p.s On October 5, the coolest Chihuahua to ever live,who loved to ride in my Deloreans, past away. I bought her for $2 when I was 4yrs. She loved sitting in the Delorean and watching me work on it. She was 14.
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: NBeatson(AT)aol.com Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 09:36:56 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: rear fog lights Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Thanks for everyone's input regards rear fog lights.
I checked with the vehicle inspectorate as to when rear fogs become a legal requirement and they've told me that any vehicle registered or first used after June 1980 has to have at least one fog light.
My guess is that some MOT stations take a very liberal attitude as to this regulation, some stations don't. I suppose I'll have to have my car MOT'd at a place thats flexible.
Nigel
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 09:27:15 -0400 From: Marc A Levy <malevy(AT)dnrc.bell-labs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2bfe2b7a.252bb3dc(AT)aol.com> Subject: [DML] Re: The dies were sunk because... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Anyone run dive trps out there? I am a diver and would find that to be a interesting dive.
Maybe we can lobby the Discovery channel to do a dive trip show, so we can see them now.. I am sick of seeing the shows on the Titanic!
ROBLAMROCK(AT)aol.com wrote:
> fisheries bought the "scrap" metal dies and used them as anchors for the fish > farm's salmon rearing cages. They now rest as anchors in 100 feet of > seawater off Carna in Connemarra.
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 08:56:10 -0400 From: Mike Substelny <msubstel(AT)lorainccc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <19991006034833.IMO20426(AT)delorean> Subject: [DML] Re: Fiberglass panels (was body panels) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> and I was wondering if their was a possiblity of > creating fiberglass panels for the D. [SNIP] > Would it be difficult to create a mold from existing > stainless panels , and manufacture fiberglass panels > for the D that could be painted, without sacrificing > the supply of stainless panels?
I believe my limited experience in the plastics industry is just enough to answer this question. In short, it should be possible to make a mold to manufacture fiberglass body panels for *much* less money than a die to stamp stainless steel panels.
This mold would probably be created from scratch, not an impression from an existing stainless panel. But for a few thousand dollars a good pattern maker should be able to make an adequate mold for a limited run of fiberglass lay-up of one body panel.
Hypothetically, if you put fiberglass left front fenders on DeLoreans it will have an unknown detrimental effect on safety. It will cause the left front to be lighter weight than the right front and reduce crash energy absorption at the same time.
- Mike Substelny
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 05:55:55 -0700 (PDT) From: william menelli <wmenelli(AT)yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Delorean for sale Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Dear Group,To the right buyer,DMC12,S/N7148,MFD:Nov.81. I have owned this D for 15yrs(very important),I'm the second owner.5 speed,gray interior,28.0k miles.Everything works!As a member of the Delorean Midwest Connection,I've had the privlege of caring for this D thru myself,fellow club members and Don Steger on his annual tech sessions.A solid runner with an outstanding record for reliability.Can be made stock with very little effort.Stored winters.Extras include:car cover,manuals,luggage rack etc.General condition/update info.to serious inquiries. Best offer over $17,000. Bill Menelli (630)543-4558 Chicago west suburbs.
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut(AT)worldnet.att.net> References: <19991006034833.IMO20426(AT)delorean> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 17:26:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: body panels Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
There doesn't seem to much more to be said about fiberglass body panels so unless something Earth shaking shows up I'm ending the thread.
Bruce Benson, this week's moderator
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut(AT)worldnet.att.net> References: <19991006034833.IMO20426(AT)delorean> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 17:36:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Bricklin Parts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
There seems to be some confusion over the roles of Consolidated International and Kapac regarding the liquidation of the DeLorean factory Consolidated liquidated both DeLorean and Bricklin. Kapac's owner, Marvin Kantz, was a friend of someone at Consolidated and was approached about buying the remaining stock of parts. While Consolidated sold the remaining DeLoreans, Kapac ended up with the parts. Marvin said he spent $40,000 having divers look over the sunken body dies. The estimated cost of buying the salvage rights to them and the actual salvage process exceeded the expected return on making and selling those panels. Interestingly, Marvin told James Espey and I that he had the divers check the dies but I also heard John DeLorean say in a T.V. interview that it was he who did that. I guess we can take our choice as to who did what.
Bruce Benson
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 19:34:30 -0700 From: mnoeltne(AT)ezl.com Subject: [DML] Reminder: Autocross in St. Louis! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Just a reminder that you are all invited to the SCCA autocross in St. Louis this Sunday, October 10th. They will have a special class for DeLoreans at this event only.
I've had a number of responses to this and I'm estimating that we may have as many as a dozen DeLoreans out there running around the course that day. If you're going to be in St. Louis with your D for the DOA Expo then come on out and have some fun! This is the safest thing you can do in an automobile yet it's also a lot of fun.
Visit: http://www.buffalochips.org/stlautox/ for more information or e-mail me at mnoeltne(AT)ezl.com
Thanks!
Mark Noeltner VIN 6820
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)att.net> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 20:33:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Steering wheel bolt size Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
The steering wheel nut is 22mm. If you want to remove the steering wheel you will need a steering wheel puller.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: Watkins Family <watbmv(AT)megalink.net> > Date: Monday, October 04, 1999 5:39 PM
What is the correct size socket for the nut holding the steering wheel > in place underneath the removeable padding on the center of the wheel?? > I don't seem to have the right size or the correct length socket. > > Tom > > #5732
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)att.net> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 21:13:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Service question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Kelvin, If he is really knowledge about the PRV he would know that this engine had a bad reputation due to ill-fated "soft cams" in the pre 1981 models. Fortunately an up-dated hardened cam was fitted to all PRV's just prior to the DeLorean application. Additionally the PRV has some design and configuration elements that are somewhat different from other engines, it is these unique elements that make the PRV a work horses that should provide your DeLorean with 200K mile plus non-stop reliable performance.
As far as his comments, if he really knew these engines he would love them like we do.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
> From: Kelvin <mason_k(AT)wvwc.edu> > > These service posts got me curious about what the local mechanics would > say about servicing a D. So, I called up the certified Volvo mechanic in > my town thinking that he would have experience working on this type of > engine. As soon as I mentioned the "D" word I was immediately met with a > wall of nasty and negative comments that lasted a full two minutes > without a word from me edgewise. He was commenting strictly on the > engine, not the car in general. Apparently, he was quite familiar with > the engine in question and hated working on them. He invited me down to > the auto shop he owned to see this engine and the mess it was making out > of a Volvo he had on the lot. I quietly declined. Then he ended with: > "Delorean's a nice lookin' car though..." > > One thing for sure, this guy was adamant. > > > Lets hear a cheery rebuttal that would this guy in his place... ?? > > > Kelvin
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)att.net> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 20:27:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Horns Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Tom,
The DeLoren horn circuit does not need a relay. The relay that you got with your horns is a generic relay used for accessories such as driving and fog lights so you may want to hold on to it for use.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
> From: Watkins Family <watbmv(AT)megalink.net> > > No argument here, Joe. Sorry if my post seemed to belittle our OEM > horns. My horns were 18 years old, very tired and have surely seen too > much of the "elements". I'm sure the OEM's sound great new. I was > just happy to find an adequate replacement set at a good price at a > Nationally known car parts store. > > As for the Horn relay, Do our cars have a horn relay? and do you think > the replacement that came with the new horns is worth keeping? > > Tom > > #5732
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 20:34:36 -0400 From: David Sontos <dsontos(AT)sybercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] DeLoreans and car shows Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I've been to three car shows in the past four weeks and there was only one show that had more than one DeLorean to present. Unfortunately this usually puts you into an "Other" or "Open" group of cars and one Rolls Royce in the group usually takes the prize. I know of at least five other DeLoreans in my area but not one of them was at any of the three shows. Whats the point of having a beautiful car like a DeLorean and not show it off. Besides, I'd like some compitition. My car is not without its flaws. The last show we went to was over 300 miles away. The car never ran better. And its true the more you drive them the better they get. Thanks for putting up with my venting.
Dave Sontos VIN 02573
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 22:44:03 -0400 From: Jim <starbuck(AT)gate.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Rear Fascia bumper flaking Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
My rear fascia looks great but the black part of the bumper's paint is flaking. Is there any thing I can use to remove the rest of faking black paint to make it look more uniform?
Thanks Jim
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Steve Pattison" <stevep1(AT)home.com> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 20:32:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Follow up to frustrating Starting Problem Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00CC_01BF1039.F4C38DA0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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A couple of months ago I posted the following problem and got a couple of r= esponses and I wanted to let you know the final outcome in case anyone else= came across a similar problem:
(snip) The story is the car rarely starts what I'll call normally - like every other car I've owned. I used to own another Delorean and don't remember ever having a problem. I typically have to turn the key and then let go and hope the engine starts. I don't "hear" it start as the starter is turning like any other car. Sometimes it just won't start no matter what I do short of pushing the car. I can wait sometime a short time, sometime longer, then it starts like it usually does (when I let go of the key). Never any pressure on the gas pedal.
I replaced the fuel accumulator & the fuel pump a couple of months ago (about 1000 miles ago). The car has always started since then until recently. The fuel gauge was at about 1/4 tank both times ?? (not sure if that's an issue)
Another puzzling part is that although the starter turns very strong the car won't start but when I do push the car there is no hesitation in it starting. It starts without any effort at all. (end)
The problem turned out to be in the ignition switch on the steering column,= diagnosed an repaired (replaced) by Don Steger !! Don says he's never see= n it happen before.
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every<BR>other car I've owned. I used to own another Delorean and don= 't =
remember<BR>ever having a problem. I typically have to turn the key a= nd =
then let go<BR>and hope the engine starts. I don't "hear" it start as= the =
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matter what I<BR>do short of pushing the car. I can wait sometime a s= hort =
time, sometime<BR>longer, then it starts like it usually does (when I let g= o of =
the key).<BR>Never any pressure on the gas pedal.<BR><BR>I replaced the fue= l =
accumulator & the fuel pump a couple of months ago<BR>(about 1000 miles= =
ago). The car has always started since then until<BR>recently. = The =
fuel gauge was at about 1/4 tank both times ?? (not sure if<BR>that's an =
issue)<BR><BR>Another puzzling part is that although the starter turns very= =
strong the<BR>car won't start but when I do push the car there is no hesita= tion =
in it<BR>starting. It starts without any effort at all.</DIV> <DIV>(end)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The problem turned out to be in the ignition switch on the steering co= lumn, =
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "doctor280" <doctor280(AT)email.msn.com> References: <851e452f.252bdb9b(AT)aol.com> Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 01:15:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: re: Radio Question Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0039_01BF1061.6B557CE0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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Crutchfield is a business that has been selling complete car stereo and hom= e audio equipment for years. I have used their services in the past with gr= eat results.
In their latest catalog (which came today) they only list one radio that wi= ll fit without the mods. Kenwood KRC-2007 price $99.00
You can contact them at 1-800-955-3000 or from their website: www.crutchfie= ld.com.
Sitting back and taken the credit, Robert Starling Vin#5252
> Many > > aftermarket radios will fit if you cut the dash. > =
> Who is Crutchfield? Can someone supply the contact info.? > =
> Bill > VIN# 2157 > =
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complete car stereo and home audio equipment for years. I have used th= eir =
services in the past with great results.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>In their latest catalog (which came tod= ay) they =
only list one radio that will fit without the mods. Kenwood KRC-2007 price =
$99.00</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>You can contact them at 1-800-955-3000 = or from =
their website: <A =
href=3D"http://www.crutchfield.com">www.crutchfield.com</A>.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Sitting back and taken the credit,</FON= T></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Robert Starling</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Vin#5252</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR>> Many<BR>> > aftermarket radios wil= l fit =
if you cut the dash.<BR>> <BR>> Who is Crutchfield? Can someone= =
supply the contact info.?<BR>> <BR>> Bill<BR>> VIN# 2157<BR>> =
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "doctor280" <doctor280(AT)email.msn.com> References: <00cf01bf1074$a1871ae0$085b0418(AT)fed1.sdca.home.com> Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 00:54:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Follow up to frustrating Starting Problem Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01BF105E.7F7E0A00" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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The car has always started since then until recently. The fuel gauge was at about 1/4 tank both times ?? (not sure if that's an issue)
This could be an issue........The pick-up hose in a Delorean is about $90.0= 0+ Some will either replace this hose with one that does not have the corre= ct bends or cut the bad section out of the hose, to keep from paying this p= rice. Either way the pick-up hose may not reach the bottom of the tank ther= e for not picking up the gas when the tank is low.
Not saying that this has been done to your car, but something that you migh= t want to look into.
Sitting back and taking the credit, Robert Starling Vin#5252 =
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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dwindows-1252" http-equiv=3DContent-Ty= pe> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>The car has always started since then until<BR>recently= . =
The fuel gauge was at about 1/4 tank both times ?? (not sure if<BR>that's a= n =
issue)<BR><BR><FONT color=3D#0000ff>This could be an issue........The pick-= up hose =
in a Delorean is about $90.00+ Some will either replace this hose with one = that =
does not have the correct bends or cut the bad section out of the hose, to = keep =
from paying this price. Either way the pick-up hose may not reach the botto= m of =
the tank there for not picking up the gas when the tank is =
low.</FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT color=3D#0000ff></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Not saying that this has been done to y= our car, =
but something that you might want to look into.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Sitting back and taking the credit,</FO= NT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Robert Starling</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Vin#5252</FONT> </DIV>
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "doctor280" <doctor280(AT)email.msn.com> References: <7tg4g9$6010(AT)eGroups.com> Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 00:57:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: frame Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0021_01BF105E.E3CD0E20" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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Epoxy is sold by our friendly Delorean part suppliers.
Sitting back and taking the credit, Robert Starling Vin#5252 ----- Original Message ----- =
From: <delorean502(AT)excite.com> To: <dmcnews(AT)eGroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 2:30 PM Subject: [DML] frame
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> what is the best way to recoat some of the frame? the area that holds > the engine has some rust and some chipping. since I don't have money > for a framedown restoration right now OR the stainless steel frame, I > need to know what kind of epoxy to use and what I have to do before I > apply it. is there a lot of sanding involved and rewelding? thanks > for the help > =
> Erik Geerdink > 4512 > EGGS D > =
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suppliers.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Sitting back and taking the credit,</FO= NT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Robert Starling</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Vin#5252</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>From: <<A =
href=3D"mailto:delorean502(AT)excite.com">delorean502(AT)excite.com</A>></FONT= ></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>To: <<A =
href=3D"mailto:dmcnews(AT)eGroups.com">dmcnews(AT)eGroups.com</A>></FONT></DIV= > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 2:30 PM</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Subject: [DML] frame</FONT></DIV></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=3D2>> <BR>> what is the best way to recoat = some of =
the frame? the area that holds<BR>> the engine has some rust and s= ome =
chipping. since I don't have money<BR>> for a framedown restoratio= n =
right now OR the stainless steel frame, I<BR>> need to know what kind of= =
epoxy to use and what I have to do before I<BR>> apply it. is ther= e a =
lot of sanding involved and rewelding? thanks<BR>> for the help<BR= >> =
<BR>> Erik Geerdink<BR>> 4512<BR>> EGGS D<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>= ; =
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