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3680. LovDMC12(AT)aol.com          Calling all South Carolina DeLoreans
3681. mdeluca(AT)comtechpst.com    Re: Production Chronology/ Owners Directory
3682. Stian Birkeland           How many DeLoreans are left in the world?
3683. Stian Birkeland           Alan Parsons DeLorean Music Video?
3684. Jesse D. Sightler         Re: trunk struts
3685. Nick Ryan                 Re: DMC drawings and digital models
3686. Lee                       Re: fuel smell
3687. Iznodmad(AT)aol.com          Re: fuel smell
3688. DMC83in99(AT)aol.com         Re: trunk struts
3689. Iznodmad(AT)aol.com          Dealer Information
3690. DMC Joe                   Re: How many DeLoreans are left in the world?
3691. DMC Joe                   Re: fuel smell
3692. Police6627(AT)aol.com        Re: Production Chronology/ Owners Directory
3693. Michael Babb              Re: trunk struts
3694. dmcvegas(AT)worldnet.att.net Re: DeLorean Commercial
3695. WtrResQ(AT)aol.com           Re: fuel smell
3696. Michael Babb              PJ Grady
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 17:04:36 EDT
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There is going to be a car show at Orangeburg-Calhoun Technical College on 
Saturday, November 6.  The show is in its fourth year and offers many awards 
and door prizes.  I think it would be a great opportunity for those of us in 
South Carolina and neighboring states with DMC's to get together.  There are 
several motels and restuarants located near the campus.  Perhaps we could all 
go out after the show and get to know our fellow DMC owners from our own 
backyard.  
For more info on the show and to get a registration form, call Don Gaskins at 
1-803-536-0311  ext. 1304.
I hope to see lots of DeLorean owners and enthusiasts at the show.  If you 
have any questions about accomidations, please email me privately.
Brian
VIN 1597
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The originals floor mats were all black as far as I know. PJ Gradys has
some nice gray ones for about $130 (that I have in my car) also
available in black, they are reproductions that actually fit better
then the originals.
DMC Houston also has both colors but I don't remember the price. If you
want the original mats there is a brand new set of original black floor
mats for sale on ebay this week that are sure to sell for more then the
reproductions would cost you. 
Mike D.
Vin 3113
NY Lic. DLORIANN  
.also can anyone tell me the 
> color of the floor mats that were in the original delorean, with a
grey 
> interior. dmc houston has only black with the dmc logo for a large 
> price..thanks 
> 
> 
> mike leising
> sugarland tx
> 11288-vin

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From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway(AT)hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 12:04:40 PDT
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Hello,
Does anyone know exactly how many DeLoreans are left in the world?
Would it be possible to make a survey among the insurance companies?
Or in a database of registered vehicles?
I guess the major parts suppliers will have nearly all that info. How about 
making this info available? In Norway we have lots of carclubs that publish 
registry info on special car. The important thing is that such a registry 
only contains info on the special cars,and  NOT the owners or whereabouts.
The way I see it, if the goal is to boost the DeLoreans' value, then this 
info is of major importance.
Stian Birkeland
NORWAY
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Hello,
Has anyone seen any of the music videos from AP's new album?
MAYBE the DeLorean is featured.... Keep your eyes open...
Stian Birkeland
NORWAY
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>Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 20:35:51 EDT
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>Fellow DMCer's,
>As posted the other day the new Alan Parsons album (The Time Machine) does
>have a Delorean on it (in the wings up position). It is a small photo but
>clearly a Delorean. Looks to be a European model as the lic on the front is
>white with black lettering. Hard to read but looks like DGS 803X. If the
>owner is lurking out there, how about the "rest of the story". Martin G. 
>this
>maybe one of your mates (as album was recorded in England). Also if anyone
>with better eyes can read it clearer, please post the number. (a sure sign
>I'm getting older).  For a look at the cover ( I bought one, as I like Alan
>Parsons) go to http://www.interlog.com/~avenue. Click on the new album link
>and see it for yourself.
>Bruce Battles
>Vin 06569
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I've sort of wondered this myself, as the struts for my trunk perform
similarly.  I have found, however, that if I pull and release the latch
normally, the hood will be repositioned such that I can then pull up the
trunk without having to hold the pull handle.  Perhaps your situation is
similar?
Either that, or I guess you can just use this as a good excuse for you
to drive the car.  :-)
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Dale Schaub wrote:
> 
> I bought new trunk struts from one of the distributors recommended by this
> list (on this list). With the new trunk struts does a person still have to
> lift the trunk lid for the first two feet to get to started on its way up or
> did I get a bad set of struts?
> 
> I'm getting the D ready for my wife to drive  and I don't think she can pull
> the trunk handle and lift the trunk lid at the same time.
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 Viewpoint Datalabs have various resolution (polygon Resolution) models of =
the Delorean. Most 3D packages (Softimage, Alias Maya, 3DSMAX) ship with a =
complimentary set of these 3D models, which include heads, buildings, =
aircraft etc and the obligatory 911, 57 chevy and the Delorean. The one =
they ship for free is a pretty lo-res model but if you are any good you =
should be able to modify it up to a decent one. At least it's not a Back =
to the Future conversion job...
Cheers
Nick

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At 03:52 AM 10/8/99 EDT, you wrote:
>ok, hear is another probem ive been working on.  i have been getting a fuel 
>smell in the car (throught the a/c vent).  i replaced the fuel pump rubber 
>boots (both) and both of the fuel lines going to and from the fuel pump
area. 
> i still seem to get the smell, only after i fill the tank.  i havnt noted 
>any overflow and im now at a loss.  oh, i also replaced the fuel cap.  any 
>advise would be great....
>
>james
Hi James,
	The fuel smell is a chronic problem that is often much easier to correct
than might be expected. Although you smell it in the AC it is most likely
in the fill tube or over flow connections.
	You might try some of these possibilities:
	1. Don't top off or over fill, don't fill the fill neck with fuel.
	2. Wipe up any spilt fuel after a fill up....even a few stray drops will
cause an odor.
	3. Check the clamps on the main fill hose and the over flow hose, over
time these can leak ever so slightly. You can just tighten them a turn or
remove and clean the hose and the connection then re install and clamp with
new stainless clamps.
Good Luck
support(AT)radiance.com
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James,
     I used to have the same problem that you describe and also replaced 
everything you mentioned as well.  The source of your smell may be coming 
from the fuel sending unit.  It should have a rubber gasket to seal the area. 
 If someone has accessed this area before, the gasket may not be aligned 
correctly.  It has a notch in it that must be seated correctly to seal 
properly.  Since it's fix, I have not noticed the fuel smell (credit to the 
repair person Starling 1999).  Take a look, hope this helps.  
Darren Decker
#5000 
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no, once you pull the release, it should push the lid up about 4 inches and 
release it from the latch.  Then you pull it open.
Scott
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Dear DML,
      I have been researching the history of my D this week.  I have traced 
the history of the car back to the owner in 1984, though she doesn't know if 
she was the original owner!  She says she bought it from a dealer in Cary, NC 
which is just outside Raleigh, NC.  Can any of you with dealer information 
books look to see if there were any dealers in either of those two cities?  
Thank you,
Darren Decker
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Stian,
. The concept of Insurance companies and DeLorean parts suppliers supplying
information wont work for the following reasons.
Many, and I mean many, Deloreans are in storage with a high percentage not
insured or registered. Additionally insurance companies are not very
willing to release any database information. 
The DeLorean parts suppliers will not insure a great deal of accuracy
because many owners purchase parts through hundreds of service facilities
aroun the world.
Lastly the high number of purchase and sales of DeLoreans makes it
difficult to track all the Vin's. 
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>
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> From: Stian Birkeland <dmc_norway(AT)hotmail.com>
> 
> Hello,
> Does anyone know exactly how many DeLoreans are left in the world?
> Would it be possible to make a survey among the insurance companies?
> Or in a database of registered vehicles?
> 
> I guess the major parts suppliers will have nearly all that info. How
about 
> making this info available? In Norway we have lots of carclubs that
publish 
> registry info on special car. The important thing is that such a registry
> only contains info on the special cars,and  NOT the owners or
whereabouts.
> 
> The way I see it, if the goal is to boost the DeLoreans' value, then this
> info is of major importance.
> 
> 
> Stian Birkeland
> NORWAY

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Have you pulled the fuel pump cover seal to see if there is any fuel on top
of the fuel pump.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>
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> From: Lee <Lee(AT)radiance.com>
> 
> At 03:52 AM 10/8/99 EDT, you wrote:
> >ok, hear is another probem ive been working on.  i have been getting a
fuel 
> >smell in the car (throught the a/c vent).  i replaced the fuel pump
rubber 
> >boots (both) and both of the fuel lines going to and from the fuel pump
> area. 
> > i still seem to get the smell, only after i fill the tank.  i havnt
noted 
> >any overflow and im now at a loss.  oh, i also replaced the fuel cap. 
any 
> >advise would be great....
> >
> >james
> Hi James,

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Can someone tell me if there is an email address for pj gradys  or an order 
number. What is pj gradys? i would like to order some floor mats. 
mike leising
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This, I think, I typically caused by the weak springs that are installed in=
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acements that whould offer a better upwards boost to the hood.   (I myself =
currently have a "two hand" opening trunk....same with the engine cover....=
.just in the case of the engine cover it's "one hand....one piece of string=
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Michael Babb
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I've researched the commercial a little bit, but not fully. I called
KNBC-TV in Los Angeles asking them about their archives for both the
"Live the Dream" commercial, and the episode of "Donahue" with JZD as
the guest. The man on the phone (program director I think) said that
after a period of time (specified by the producers of the
show/advertisement) all tapes are destroyed. For copies you have to
contact the producers. I don't have any books with me right now, but
the name of the Ad Company is listed in either "De Lorean", or "Hard
Driving". In "Stainless Steel Illusion", it mentions that JZD, C.R.
"Dick" Brown, and Muar Dubin keept clashing on which ad(s) to run, so
many ad campaigns were cancelled. Because of this it is very possible
that many more newspaper/magazine/T.V. ads were created that we don't
know about. There is of course a chance that the master tapes and
templets still exist somewhere, but I doubt it.
-Robert

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Have you pulled the fuel pump cover seal to see if there is any fuel on top
of the fuel pump.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>
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***********
nope, i havnt checked that, buut i did replace the old one and i didnt note 
anything out of the ordinary, although it was at the half tank mark.  ill 
check it the next time i fill up.  thx joe

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PJ Grady is located on the web at: www.pjgrady.com
You might also want to try DMC-Houston at: www.usadmc.com
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Mike,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>PJ Grady is located on the web at: <A =
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<DIV>You might also want to try DMC-Houston at: <A =
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<DIV>Michael Babb</DIV>
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      <TD><PRE>Can someone tell me if there is an email address for pj grad=
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mike leising
vin 11288
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