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----------------------------------------------------------------- 3774. Reggie_Knowlton(AT)vapower.com Re: I failed inspection! 3775. MARK DAVIDSON rear ground clearance 3776. ajl521(AT)aol.com Re: I failed inspection! 3777. William T Wilson Re: I failed inspection! 3778. James Senft Re: I failed inspection! 3779. DMC Joe Re: Fuel problem I think! 3780. Mike Substelny Re: Outstanding Concours at Expo in St. Louis 3781. DMC Joe Re: I failed inspection! 3782. Martin Gutkowski Re: Euro-spec DeLoreans! 3783. Martin Gutkowski Car's the Star UPDATE 3784. LovDMC12(AT)aol.com Re: DeLorean Bad Publicity 3785. DeLorean31(AT)aol.com DeLorean Mid Atlantic Social Oct 17th 3786. CBL302(AT)aol.com Re: Wheel Bearings. 3787. DMC Joe Re: Wheel Bearings. 3788. Gary Hull DeLorean Needed for Event in San Clemente Califor 3789. fred50fred(AT)email.msn.com 50 Plastic model DeLoreans 3790. delorean502(AT)excite.com wheels 3791. BurkePhoto(AT)aol.com Re: rear ground clearance 3792. DMC Joe Cleveland Tech Session Up-date 3793. DMC Joe Re: rear ground clearance 3794. Marc A Levy Re: I failed inspection! 3795. saintern depreciation 3796. delorean502(AT)excite.com Re: depreciation 3797. Mike Substelny Re: depreciation 3798. ABatt10347(AT)aol.com DuPont Registry Top 100 Cars of the Century 3799. Sean Howley Windshield washer fluid reservoir 3800. Michael Babb Re: wheels 3801. David Sontos Virginia Car Show 3802. Phil Re: depreciation 3803. yugoman Re: depreciation 3804. Robert Greenhaw Can a DeLorean be Keyed? 3805. Robert Greenhaw Is it safe to use this on DeLoreans? 3806. rickaye(AT)webtv.net battery problem 3807. Lee Re: depreciation 3808. mnoeltne(AT)ezl.com Re: Windshield washer fluid reservoir 3809. Marc A Levy Re: wheels 3810. delorean502(AT)excite.com ignition 3811. jtrealty(AT)webspan.net SO.N.J. CAR SHOW 10/18 3812. James Espey Concours Handbook & Judging Sheets 3813. Mike Substelny Re: Can a DeLorean be Keyed? 3814. Mike Substelny Re: wheels 3815. Michael Reinemuth Stainless Steel Illusion 3816. Mrgolf77(AT)aol.com DeLorean glass 3817. yugoman Re: Stainless Steel Illusion 3818. Brian J McCool Re: Stainless Steel Illusion 3819. Lee New Torsion bars 3820. James Espey Re: Stainless Steel Illusion 3821. Michael Babb Re: Can a DeLorean be Keyed? 3822. James Espey DeLoreans originally shipped to Middle East 3823. DMC Joe Re: Is it safe to use this on DeLoreans? 3824. DMC Joe Re: battery problem 3825. dick ross D for $1500 3826. DMC Joe Re: Stainless Steel Illusion 3827. Jesse D. Sightler Re: DeLorean glass 3828. delorean502(AT)excite.com luggage rack 3829. Doc Re: Can a DeLorean be Keyed? 3830. DMC83in99(AT)aol.com Re: luggage rack 3831. DeLorean31(AT)aol.com Re: SO.N.J.CAR SHOW 10/18 (Correction) 3832. Ann & Ed Thompson Re: Stainless Steel Illusion 3833. CBL302(AT)aol.com Re: Stainless Steel Illusion 3834. BondAtomic(AT)aol.com Re: DeLoreans on Chris' car site 3835. wb4mnf(AT)atl.org Look at your car. Chassis number and VIN 3836. Michael Babb Re: Is it safe to use this on DeLoreans? 3837. Josh Haldeman Re: Stainless Steel Illusion 3838. Ann & Ed Thompson Re: DeLoreans on Chris' car site 3839. William T Wilson Re: DeLoreans on Chris' car site 3840. WINGD2(AT)aol.com Delorean Give-Away 3841. luke.sandel(AT)cmich.edu Re: Concours Handbook & Judging Sheets 3842. Michael Babb Re: DeLoreans on Chris' car site 3843. CBL302(AT)aol.com Re: DeLoreans on Chris' car site 3844. Lee Re: Stainless Steel Illusion 3845. NickSeiler(AT)aol.com I need info!!! 3846. Dave Swingle DMC-News T-shirts and Stuff -----------------------------------------------------------------
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Reggie_Knowlton(AT)vapower.com Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:49:05 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: I failed inspection! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Marc, does your car have the original catalytic converter on it? If so, replace it, you'll be amazed at the difference in the hydrocarbon readings after you do. Disconnecting equipment will cause you more grief than it's worth, they were put in there for a reason. You don't say which state you live in but having lived in and around Stone Mountain, Georgia for ten years I've had the go around of getting cars to pass the emmisions test, Good Ruck!
Reggie
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "MARK DAVIDSON" <WMARKDAVIDSON(AT)email.msn.com> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:47:36 -0000 Subject: [DML] rear ground clearance Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Can you tell me the correct ground clearance for the front and rear of the car? I have read that the rear is 6.1 inches and 6.87 inches. I had new tires put on the car and was told by the installer that the car was an inch low in the rear (5.8 inches). When you set in the drivers seat and look at the rear view mirror you see more of the headlinner than the read window. As this is my first D and I have not been around any before so I do not know if this is "normal" From the outside the car looks like it is setting correctly. I have head stories about cutting the rear springs and moving them to the front etc. Any help would be appreciated.
mark
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 07:01:54 -0700 From: ajl521(AT)aol.com In-Reply-To: <38047FD8.EBE73B03(AT)dnrc.bell-labs.com> Subject: [DML] Re: I failed inspection! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> I went through inspection yesterday, and failed. The guy that put the > red sticker on my car said "The HC was a bit high". > So, Is there a quick fix to get it to pass? If I disconnect the PVC > hose? disconnect the idle switch? Remove air filter? Maybe some fuel > additive?
I personally am a strong beleaver in "Guarenteed to Pass Emissions" fuel additive. Since it burns cleaner then gas, the HC and CO are both lower. I have an old Buick that I use it in every year, and that spits out blue smoke! But it passes the test with flying colors. I have not gotten the notice on my Delorean yet, but I will use the same product again. Andrew
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:00:56 -0400 (EDT) From: William T Wilson <fluffy(AT)snurgle.org> In-Reply-To: <38047FD8.EBE73B03(AT)dnrc.bell-labs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: I failed inspection! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Marc A Levy wrote:
> I would prefer not to mess with the mixture because this car is > Turbocharged (Island Twin). If its not broke, don't fix it.
Good idea. Do you have the muffler-equipped version or the catalytic converter-equipped version?
> So, Is there a quick fix to get it to pass? If I disconnect the PVC > hose? disconnect the idle switch? Remove air filter? Maybe some fuel > additive?
Don't remove your air filter. Depending on how high your HC is (what is the limit and the amount that you produced?) you could probably get away with changing the spark plugs, setting the timing, and putting some of that "guarantee to pass emissions" stuff in your fuel.
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:51:01 -0400 From: James Senft <jpsenft(AT)erols.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <38047FD8.EBE73B03(AT)dnrc.bell-labs.com> Subject: [DML] Re: I failed inspection! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
My D also failed the emissions inspection for several years in a row (high HC). A local Volvo specialist tweaked as best he could, including new plugs, air filter and his instruments showed acceptable levels of HC. But Maryland vehicle emissions inspection still failed it. But this year it finally passed! Tried a bottle of "guaranteed to pass" stuff from local auto store mixed with AMOCO premium, drive it for 250 miles, and combined with a 40 minute wait in line idling on a 98 degree day (engine was HOT!), it passed ! Reading was 218, failure was 220. Good luck on yours! Jim
Marc A Levy wrote:
> I was sure I would find a answer to this in the back issues, but no > luck. > > I went through inspection yesterday, and failed. The guy that put the > red sticker on my car said "The HC was a bit high". > > I would prefer not to mess with the mixture because this car is > Turbocharged (Island Twin). If its not broke, don't fix it. > > I have passed inspection with this setup for the past few years, since > PJGrady replaced the O2 sensor, and a few other items that were removed > when the turbos were installed. > > I recently replaced the air filter (if you read my post of a week ago, > it became oil drenched when oil was sucked in through the PVC). > > So, Is there a quick fix to get it to pass? If I disconnect the PVC > hose? disconnect the idle switch? Remove air filter? Maybe some fuel > additive? > > This weekend is the Fall event for De Lorean Mid Atlantic, and I would > be embarrassed to show up with a big red sticker :) > > Thanks, > Marc > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: > www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator(AT)dmcnews.com
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)att.net> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:20:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Fuel problem I think! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
There are three possible causes of no power to the fuel pump. Fuse # 7 is open, the RPM (fuel pump) relay is defective or the inertia (impact) switch is open.
Wiring diagrams for all systems can be found in the DeLorean Workshop Manual available from DMC Houston and PG Grady.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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The D will not start and the fuel pump does not work. If I apply 12 volts to it then it runs and if I take the line loose I get gas flow. We can’t find the fuse for the gas pump but even with the pump running it still does not start. Any help will be appreciated and where can I get a manual or diagram for the wiring.
Thanks Steve
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:51:38 -0400 From: Mike Substelny <msubstel(AT)lorainccc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4148FEAAD879D311AC5700A0C969E8901680D1(AT)orsmsx35.jf.intel.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Outstanding Concours at Expo in St. Louis Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
My wife, Patti, and I also had the pleasure of judging the Concours at the the DOA's Saint Louis Expo. We found it to be challenging and fun at the same time, an experience we hope to repeat in the future.
The quality of all eight Concours cars was excellent, making them a pleasure to examine. It was obvious that the contestants took the competition very seriously, and I hope that our judging was up to their expectations.
DMC Houston did an excellent job of preparing us to judge the cars. Before we left home they provided us with meticulously prepared judging books, complete with color pictures and VIN breakdowns, as well as detailed scoring sheets. The morning of the Concours they hosted a breakfast where they gave us a final briefing and answered our questions.
During the judging, DMC Houston gave us excellent support. They supplied us with two-way radios so we could easily call on their expertise when needed. Stephen and James were available to answer questions about small details, some of them very picky.
Concours judging was set up such that each judge was responsible for one particular area on all eight cars. I judged undercarriages while Patti judged exteriors. This helped to keep the scoring as balanced as possible; an important factor when so much personal judgement is involved.
Perhaps the greatest benefit of my judging experience was educational. Even after years of owning a DeLorean and reading the DML, Concours judging taught me a *lot* about DeLoreans. There is no better way to learn the subtle differences introduced by the factory, the QACs, and dealers while the cars were being sold.
Even though I spent 2.5 hours stooped over and crawling on the floor under these gorgeous cars, I did not become as sore and stiff as Knut did. However, I think I had dreams about fan cowls and epoxy-coated frames all night long.
TO ALL DMLers: If you are ever fortunate enough to be asked to judge a DeLorean Concours, I highly recommend that you accept the offer. You will be glad you did.
Patti and I want to thank DMC Houston for offering us this opportunity. We also want to thank the DOA for arranging such a nice, enjoyable Expo.
- Mike Substelny
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)att.net> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:37:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: I failed inspection! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Try pulling the CO mixture plug out of the hole have it tested again. With the plug removed the mixture will go lean and reduce the HC's. Be aware that this will probably cause hesitation until the engine reaches operating temperature.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: Marc A Levy <malevy(AT)dnrc.bell-labs.com> > > I was sure I would find a answer to this in the back issues, but no > luck. > > I went through inspection yesterday, and failed. The guy that put the > red sticker on my car said "The HC was a bit high". > > I would prefer not to mess with the mixture because this car is > Turbocharged (Island Twin). If its not broke, don't fix it. > > I have passed inspection with this setup for the past few years, since > PJGrady replaced the O2 sensor, and a few other items that were removed > when the turbos were installed. > > I recently replaced the air filter (if you read my post of a week ago, > it became oil drenched when oil was sucked in through the PVC). > > So, Is there a quick fix to get it to pass? If I disconnect the PVC > hose? disconnect the idle switch? Remove air filter? Maybe some fuel > additive? > > This weekend is the Fall event for De Lorean Mid Atlantic, and I would > be embarrassed to show up with a big red sticker :) > > Thanks, > Marc
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 20:58:28 +0100 From: Martin Gutkowski <martin.is(AT)connect-2.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <19991012193125.42541.qmail(AT)hotmail.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Euro-spec DeLoreans! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Stian Birkeland wrote:
> Hello, > Does anyone have the infolisting of the few Euro-spec DeLoreans?
What do you want to know?
> > How many were right-hand drive?
All of them bar one, owned by Simon Lees-Milne
> > How many were left-hand drive?
One
> > Interior colors?
All Black AFAIK
> > Transmissions?
All manual bar one, owned by Chris Parnham
Any more specific and I'll have to spend time typing it all out - you'll see much of them on the club website,
Best Wishes,
Martin DeLorean Owners Club UK http://delorean.connect-2.co.uk
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 20:55:05 +0100 From: Martin Gutkowski <martin.is(AT)connect-2.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Car's the Star UPDATE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Dear all,
Download video captures of the show, and see screen grabs and responses I've received as a result of the show (the printable ones!!!). Find your way to the Report page and the download page. The videos are quite large, but well worth the wait. When all's said and done, there was a lot of great footage of our beloved cars on the program.
Best Wishes,
Martin http://delorean.connect-2.co.uk
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: LovDMC12(AT)aol.com Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 17:06:40 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean Bad Publicity Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I think Stian may be on to something here about positive publicity. I don't know if you get the History Channel in Europe, but they have a show called "Automobiles" that covers a particular vehicle or marque in a one hour episode. They do a very good job of cutting through the rumors and getting to the facts as they did with their episode on Preston Tucker.
During the episode on the Pontiac Firebird, which was created during John DeLorean's tenure as general manager of the division, Bunkie Knudson was interviewed and said that "John DeLorean is the finest engineer I've ever known." This came from a man who is highly respected in the automotive community and has a long list of accomplishments.
Perhaps the members of this list could each take the small amount of time it would require to write a letter to the History Channel and suggest that they dedicate an episode of "Automobiles" to the DeLorean. At least our voices would be heard, and we might just get some of the attention both the car and its creator deserve.
You can write the History Channel at:
A&E/ History Channel Viewer Relations 235 E. 45th Street New York, New York 10017
Just think how many people were set straight about the DeLorean cocaine sting thanks to the "E! True Hollywood Story" episode that aired earlier this year. Perhaps now more people are aware that JZD wasn't a drug trafficker and is not currently in prison. The more information we can get out on television that tells the truth about the man and the car the better it will be for all involved with the DeLorean automobile.
Brian VIN 1597
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: DeLorean31(AT)aol.com Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 17:45:43 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] DeLorean Mid Atlantic Social Oct 17th Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Our Fall Social is this Sunday Oct 17th. It will be held at the Chatsworth Cranberry Festival in the Pine Barrens in NJ. The festival has a car show on Sunday. We should have a good turnout of DeLoreans there. Any DeLorean owner or enthusiast in the area is welcome to attend. Those bringing their cars must be on the show field by 11am. Below is the web site address to the Festival for more information. Looking forward to another nice DeLortean get together after the very enjoyable and memorable time we had in St Louis last weekend.
Chatsworth Festival Site: http://www.cranfest.org/html/festival.shtml
Gary Gore Activities Director DeLorean Mid Atlantic
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: CBL302(AT)aol.com Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 18:01:49 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Wheel Bearings. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In a message dated 10/13/99 9:18:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Sjaeger01(AT)aol.com writes:
<< While checking a few things on my Delorean the other day, I noticed that the front left wheel has some play in it from top to bottom. About 1/2" movement. There is no play in the right wheel. Does this mean its time for new wheel bearings? >> Balljoints worn.
Claude Vin #003234 & 005520 DOA (Junk)
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)att.net> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:28:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Wheel Bearings. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Yes; replace the wheel bearing.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: Sjaeger01(AT)aol.com > > While checking a few things on my Delorean the other day, I noticed that the > front left wheel has some play in it from top to bottom. About 1/2" movement. > There is no play in the right wheel. Does this mean its time for new wheel > bearings? > > Thanks in advance, Steve.
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Gary Hull" <ghull(AT)xynext.com> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 19:29:55 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] DeLorean Needed for Event in San Clemente California Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Would you like to make a few bucks displaying your DeLorean and providing short rides? The event is a private school graduation in San Clemente California in June of 2000? The theme will be BTTF, but a stock DeLorean would be fine. Please feel free to forward this request to other SoCal DeLorean or BTTF connections you may have.
Contact Einstein(AT)IN2TIME.com for details if available for this event.
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 20:24:33 -0700 From: fred50fred(AT)email.msn.com Subject: [DML] 50 Plastic model DeLoreans Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
About ten years ago I bought 50 plastic BTTF model kits and 50 kits used to convert the BTTF model into the stock DeLorean. Each combined set includes all the parts needed to assemble one stock, doors closed, plastic DMC-12. Included are a stock body, stock center console, rear louvers and stock rear deck.These kits are first rate and still shrink-wrapped in their original boxes. Are these things worth anything? I'm tired of storing them under my bed! I'm also wondering if anyone would know an artist who would be willing to assemble them and paint them. Would anyone want finished models - either BTTF or stock? What would these be worth?
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 11:51:15 -0700 From: delorean502(AT)excite.com Subject: [DML] wheels Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
ok, are the wheels powder coated? the reason I ask...this guy came up to me the other day and looked at my wheels and said "Ya know, you can make your wheels look brand new if you just used a product called 'Quick Silver' by Armoral" My wheels have seen there better days. The "coating" has chipped off in places. Now my question is...is this guy right? I don't think he is,, but I'd still like to know for sure
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: BurkePhoto(AT)aol.com Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:28:00 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: rear ground clearance Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In a message dated 10/13/99 10:09:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, WMARKDAVIDSON(AT)email.msn.com writes:
<< When you set in the drivers seat and look at the rear view mirror you see more of the headlinner than the read window. As this is my first D and I have not been around any before so I do not know if this is "normal" >>
Mark,
The view in the rear view mirror is totally unaffected by the height of the front or back of the car relative to the ground.
Burke
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)att.net> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 10:35:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Cleveland Tech Session Up-date Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
To All,
The Tech Session portion of our Cleveland service visit is scheduled for Sunday October 24 at 3:00 PM. Our hosts will provide pizza and hot dogs. Go to our web-site for complete details.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)att.net> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 10:04:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: rear ground clearance Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
All factory DeLoreans have elevated front ends due to a last minute production change. Forget about cutting springs, simply purchase the re-calibrated lower springs from PJ Grady or DMC Houston.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: MARK DAVIDSON <WMARKDAVIDSON(AT)email.msn.com> > > Can you tell me the correct ground clearance for the front and rear of the > car? I have read that the rear is 6.1 inches and 6.87 inches. I had new > tires put on the car and was told by the installer that the car was an inch > low in the rear (5.8 inches). When you set in the drivers seat and look at > the rear view mirror you see more of the headlinner than the read window. As > this is my first D and I have not been around any before so I do not know if > this is "normal" From the outside the car looks like it is setting > correctly. I have head stories about cutting the rear springs and moving > them to the front etc. Any help would be appreciated. > > mark
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Update: I removed the PCV hose from the air box, and passed with no problem.
Thanks for the info on the fuel additive. Maybe I will use that in 2001.
Marc A Levy wrote: <SNIP> > I went through inspection yesterday, and failed. The guy that put the > red sticker on my car said "The HC was a bit high". <SNIP>
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 14:39:58 -0400 From: saintern <saintern(AT)peri.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] depreciation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello, Just wondering if you guys(and girls) could shed some light on the depreciation factor of the D as it gets older, and also how hard it is to sell one once you decide too. I ask this because I'm on the verge of buying one and was wondering if you can indeed alsmost drive it for "free", buy selling it for the same price if not for more than you bought it for minus of course regular matience and insurance. Any onfo would be helpful -Donald Kazmark
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Hi Donald, I think it is possible to drive the delorean for "free" but you have to realize that the cost for parts and installation over time may be what you paid for the car originaly. It's not hard to drop a couple thousand on a major fix. Many people have said this to me before, and I'll say it to you. "Drive and own a Delorean because you love the car, the people, and everything else that comes with it. Don't own a Delorean if you plan on making money."
Erik Geerdink 4512 EGGS D
> Hello, > Just wondering if you guys(and girls) could shed some light on the > depreciation factor of the D as it gets older, and also how hard it is > to sell one once you decide too. I ask this because I'm on the verge of > buying one and was wondering if you can indeed alsmost drive it for > "free", buy selling it for the same price if not for more than you > bought it for minus of course regular matience and insurance. Any onfo > would be helpful > -Donald Kazmark >
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:30:31 -0400 From: Mike Substelny <msubstel(AT)lorainccc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3806237E.16AB7F7(AT)peri.com> Subject: [DML] Re: depreciation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
saintern wrote:
> [SNIP] I . . . was wondering if you can indeed alsmost drive it for > "free", buy selling it for the same price if not for more than you > bought it for minus of course regular matience and insurance.
I don't think you can drive any car for "free," although a DeLorean may be about as close as you can get. In today's market, even a rock solid car with very reasonable maintenance costs (e.g. Toyota Camry) has a pretty steep depreciation cost.
There are no guarantees with depreciation, but you can make some good guesses. Imagine that you buy two $15,000 used cars today, an 18 year old DeLorean and a 3 year old Camry, then drive them both for one year. The Camry would probably depreciate by $1,500 and require $100 in maintenance, while the DeLorean required $1,500 in maintenance but depreciated by only $100.
Of course this doesn't account for insurance and fuel; the Camry would come out a bit cheaper on both (much insurance information is in the DML Back Issues). If you are a teenager, insuring any $15,000 car could cost you a quite a bit. And remember, expect the DeLorean to occasionally be out of commission while you perform that $1,500 in maintanance. This is a non-dollar cost to you.
Personally, I like to consider how much the DeLorean improves my quality of life. A year of DeLorean driving is a lot more fun than a year of Camry driving. The way I see it, that fun is worth at least $5,000 a year to me. So my DeLorean has already paid for itself!
- Mike Substelny
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: ABatt10347(AT)aol.com Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:48:26 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] DuPont Registry Top 100 Cars of the Century Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Fellow DMCer's, The new issue of the DuPont Registry Top 100 Cars of the Century lists the Delorean at # 63. It has a small paragraph about the car and a photo. There is also a second photo on page 22. While this may not sound impressive, here is a small list of cars that were rated lower (high #) than the Delorean. 70. Cord, 67.Dodge Charger, 74. Tucker, 76. Chevy Chevelle, 82. Ferrari 308, 89. De Tomaso Pantera, 92. Jaguar XK120, 95 Pontiaco GTO, and 96. Rolls Royce Corniche. With the other cars rated below the Delorean, we all should feel proud! Seems like the world is finally starting to see our cars as we have for years!!! Bruce Battles Vin # 06569
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Sean Howley" <tsuyoi(AT)mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 19:01:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Windshield washer fluid reservoir Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF1676.7466A820" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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I have a little problem with my windshield washer fluid reservoir. If I tr= y to screw the cap onto the reservoir, it freespins (threads striped). I h= ave screwed other DeLorean caps on and they also freespin. When I have scr= ewed my cap onto another DeLorean, the cap screws on tight. Therefore, the= threads of the reservoir are where the damage exists. I have temporarily = placed a gasket in-between the cap and the reservoir which has helped a lit= tle, but it still leaks when I take turns and the fluid sloshes around.
The question is: Is there another cap that I can maybe use that might seal= better that the original. Maybe a cap that has more thread engagement or = something. I really dread having to replace the entire reservoir for such = a stupid "little" problem, but when I take trips, I am tired of ringing was= her fluid out of my clothes.
Thanks!
Sean Howley VIN#2345
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I know that quick silver does wonders for "Cleaning" rims. This especially= works great in all of the little holes in the DeLorean wheels. This stuff= appears to be fairly (of not very) caustic.....One breath of the stuff, an= d you can feel your lungs complaining.
However, this stuff will not fix damaged wheels...it is mearly a cleaning s= olution.
Hope this helps!
Michael Babb DMC VIN 3472 ----- Original Message ----- =
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ok, are the wheels powder coated? the reason I ask...this guy came up to me the other day and looked at my wheels and said "Ya know, you can make your wheels look brand new if you just used a product called 'Quick Silver' by Armoral" My wheels have seen there better days. The "coating" has chipped off in places. Now my question is...is this guy right? I don't think he is,, but I'd still like to know for sure
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 19:58:14 -0400 From: David Sontos <dsontos(AT)sybercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Virginia Car Show Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I realize this is late notice but......
Car & Craft show at Ware Acadamy, Gloucester County, Virginia, Saturday October 16, 10:00AM to 4:30PM.
Fifty categories of cars, 1st, 2nd, & 3rd place prizes.
$15 dollar registration
Directions: Take rt17 to Gloucester, take Business Rt 17 to Gloucester Village, in village take Rt 14 at traffic light 2 miles to Ware Academy, look for signs.
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Phil" <delorean(AT)usfamily.net> References: <3806237E.16AB7F7(AT)peri.com> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:39:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: depreciation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I heard somewhere that the "D" depreciated mostly a year or 2 after it was made, now in the year 2000 (If you don't believe in Y2K) the DeLorean should be worth $50,000.00 -Phil philf(AT)ssesco.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "saintern" <saintern(AT)peri.com> To: <dmcnews(AT)egroups.com> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 1:39 PM Subject: [DML] depreciation
> Hello, > Just wondering if you guys(and girls) could shed some light on the > depreciation factor of the D as it gets older, and also how hard it is > to sell one once you decide too. I ask this because I'm on the verge of > buying one and was wondering if you can indeed alsmost drive it for > "free", buy selling it for the same price if not for more than you > bought it for minus of course regular matience and insurance. Any onfo > would be helpful > -Donald Kazmark > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: > www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator(AT)dmcnews.com > >
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "yugoman" <mdrig(AT)email.msn.com> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 21:35:21 -0400 Subject: [DML] Re: depreciation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
JZD built these babies to last a lifetime. I would think that with decent care and maintenence, the car would not go down in value whatsoever, and in fact should increase in value as time goes by. After all, they're one of the more unique cars in the world and they were low production.
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Is it possible for the stainless to get damaged by someone keying or knifing? Just how much damage would it cause?
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I was at school; the othrer day when I saw a "heavy-duty, all-purpose" cleaner called Versatle. It appears to be an industrial or commercial cleaner, but one of the many things it cleans is stainless steel. I was just curious if it may be possible if ine could use it to polish the stainless on a DeLorean?
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 20:10:21 -0700 From: rickaye(AT)webtv.net Subject: [DML] battery problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
i i went out to my delorean for a short trip to the store, i learned that my battery was dead. since i have had the car, this has not happened. i quickly jumped off the car and was on m way. for saftey sake, i parked on a hill, in case there was a need to jump start the car. well the trip to the store was find, so the altnator must be fine. i was right though, i had to jump start the car . the trip home was agian fine. i even cut the car off and then re started it. i think that i may have accidently turned on the defroster button the other day. is this what could have caused the drain on the battery? also the battery is agian dead today. is this because i didn't put a charger on the battery ? i thought that the trip to the store would have allowed the altinator to have charged it enough. also does the right side passanger door need the post extentions that shut off the aviator lights on the doors? or maby is it that i just need a new battery ? any help would be great.
p.s. - does anyone know where to purchase the ultima battery.
thanks officer rick
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 22:27:39 -0700 From: Lee <Lee(AT)radiance.com> In-Reply-To: <000801bf168c$8d86afb0$4500a8c0(AT)ANAHEIM> References: <3806237E.16AB7F7(AT)peri.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: depreciation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
At 04:39 PM 10/14/99 -0500, you wrote: >I heard somewhere that the "D" depreciated mostly a year or 2 after it was >made, now in the year 2000 (If you don't believe in Y2K) the DeLorean should >be worth $50,000.00 >-Phil >philf(AT)ssesco.com > reply:
Phill,
There is another way to look at the value of your "D".
Take the total number of D's produced and put to the road and divide that number in the total cost of producing it....that is all the money from every source.
I think you will find that getting one these days at $15K +/- is a great bargain, not to mention that in the next few years the price will steadily climb.
Lee
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 06:53:48 -0700 From: mnoeltne(AT)ezl.com In-Reply-To: <000a01bf1697$fc8c7740$853d45cf(AT)tccomtrade> Subject: [DML] Re: Windshield washer fluid reservoir Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Here is a trick that should work on this. Wipe off any fluid that may have spilled on the threads and any inside the cap, then put a bead of silicone sealant inside the cap. Screw it down to just where it starts to free spin, then leave it over night before driving the car. This should stop the leak. Since silicone sealant will release easily when you unscrew the cap, you can just pull out the old sealant and re-do it it each time you fill the washer fluid. Since that is probably only every 2 or three months, it shouldn't be that much of a hassle since it only takes an extra 4 or 5 minutes each time. It will require a little planning so that you can leave the car sit at least overnight to allow the sealant to cure.
Just a thought.
Mark N VIN 6820
"sean howley" <tsuyo-(AT)mindspring.com> wrote: original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=3799 > I have a little problem with my windshield washer fluid reservoir. If I try to screw the cap onto the reservoir, it freespins (threads striped <snip> > > Thanks! > > Sean Howley > VIN#2345 >
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 10:08:05 -0400 From: Marc A Levy <malevy(AT)dnrc.bell-labs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7u556j$qp6b(AT)eGroups.com> <001001bf1696$6580ab60$fbe0aec7(AT)gandalf> Subject: [DML] Re: wheels Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I have been using a variety of caustic wheel cleaners for a few years now, along with many brushes, and hours of kneeling next to the car and scrubbing. I dont know if it has to do with my brake pads in particular, but I find the wheels very hard to keep clean.
I have found that the stronger stuff has started to peel the paint off the two "original" rims. My other 2 rims were repainted 4 years ago, and they look OK. The chemicals have also removed the "DMC" from the center plastic cap on all 4. I dont think this would be too hard to fix with a small brush and some paint.
Just a warning. If I had to do it again, I would.. I hate dirty wheels.
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 09:22:04 -0700 From: delorean502(AT)excite.com In-Reply-To: <38073545.CB8F31FB(AT)dnrc.bell-labs.com> Subject: [DML] ignition Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Does anybody know how to make my ignition spring back when I turn the key? Is there a kit I can get from Houston that willhelp, or do I need a whole new ignition.
Erik Geerdink
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 08:42:44 -0700 From: jtrealty(AT)webspan.net Subject: [DML] SO.N.J. CAR SHOW 10/18 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
This sunday there will be a car show in Chatsworth, n.j. it is exit 67 off of the gsp. We will have at least 6 deloreans. If you need further info call 201-573-8229 evenings
DAVID TEITELBAUM VIN 10757
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 16:10:27 -0500 From: James Espey <james(AT)usadmc.com> Subject: [DML] Concours Handbook & Judging Sheets Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
As Knut mentioned, a copy of the current Concours Judging Handbook and Judging Sheets is available at the De Lorean Motor Company website:
http://www.usadmc.com/handbook.pdf
James Espey DeLorean Motor Company Houston, Texas
281/568-9573 800/USA-DMC1 http://www.usadmc.com
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 14:19:18 -0400 From: Mike Substelny <msubstel(AT)lorainccc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <19991014.221128.-160295.1.DeloreanDude(AT)juno.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Can a DeLorean be Keyed? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Robert Greenhaw wrote:
> Is it possible for the stainless to get damaged by someone > keying or knifing? Just how much damage would it cause?
Keys are made of various soft metals. These metals are much harder than the paint on ordinary cars but softer than the stainless on a DeLorean. You could rub out a light scratch with a Scotchbright pad. A determined vandal *might* scrape a key against your DeLorean hard enough to make a serious scratch. But if he did so, take consolation in the thought that his key was probably ruined by your much harder stainless. That vandal is walking home!
The DeLorean's 304 stainless is "kitchen grade," the same as a typical knife blade. This could probably put a nasty sctrach in a DeLorean and damage the knife blade at the same time.
Stainless is also relatively impervious to the ordinary spray paint a vandal might use, since it is much easier to clean than a painted car.
If someone *really* wanted to vandalize a DeLorean, they should use a hammer. Big dents and broken glass are bad news for DeLoreans, even worse than they are for most ordinary cars.
(I sure hope I don't have any enemies lurking out there . . .)
- Mike Substelny
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 14:26:01 -0400 From: Mike Substelny <msubstel(AT)lorainccc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7u556j$qp6b(AT)eGroups.com> <001001bf1696$6580ab60$fbe0aec7(AT)gandalf> <38073545.CB8F31FB(AT)dnrc.bell-labs.com> Subject: [DML] Re: wheels Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Marc A Levy wrote:
> I have been using a variety of caustic wheel cleaners for a few years > now, along with many brushes, and hours of kneeling next to the car and > scrubbing. I dont know if it has to do with my brake pads in > particular, but I find the wheels very hard to keep clean.
Do you have the earlier, dark wheels? I do, and I have a difficult time keeping mine clean, too. In my experience, a pressure washer works better than chemicals.
> I have found that the stronger stuff has started to peel the paint off > the two "original" rims.
I *might* have an explanation. I think someone warned me just before I did the same thing. The warning label on those stronger chemicals should say "do not apply when wheels are hot!" I almost did not notice it, but a friend pointed it out.
Apparently your car must sit undriven for up to an hour for the wheels to cool before you apply the harsher chemicals. If the wheels are hot the chemicals are more corrosive, and they WILL strip paint!
- Mike Substelny
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Did anybody know the original sales price, publishing year, and printed copies of "stainless steel illusion"?
-- Gruss
Michael Reinemuth ------------------------------------------------------- eMail: micha(AT)delorean.de - Heidelberg, Germany http://www.delorean.de - DeLorean Site Deutschland -------------------------------------------------------
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Mrgolf77(AT)aol.com Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 18:20:31 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] DeLorean glass Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello list,
I am looking into a DeLorean project car to work on this winter. All the
windows are cracked or broken out. Is the glass expensive? the car itself
is in decent shape and has low mileage except the right door will probably
need to be replaced. A U-haul truck backed into it and pushed it up out of
place. A brand new door is to much for me, does anyone out there have a
parts car they would sell me one off? please email me directly if you do. I
really need the door! the interior looks pretty ratty too, is a complete
upholstery kit available? if so, how much do you think I shoud expect to pay
for one.
Thanks
Phelps "not yet"
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My book still has the invoice from Classic Motorbooks, dated 5/11/84, price was $17.95 plus $2.95 shipping. Ah, for the good old days. Wish I'd bought a dozen copies :^) -----Original Message----- From: Michael Reinemuth <micha(AT)delorean.de> To: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com <dmcnews(AT)egroups.com> Date: Friday, October 15, 1999 5:50 PM Subject: [DML] Stainless Steel Illusion
> Did anybody know the original sales price, publishing year, and printed copies >of "stainless steel illusion"? > >-- >Gruss > >Michael Reinemuth >------------------------------------------------------- >eMail: micha(AT)delorean.de - Heidelberg, Germany >http://www.delorean.de - DeLorean Site Deutschland >------------------------------------------------------- > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: >www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > >To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: >moderator(AT)dmcnews.com > >
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Brian J McCool" <brian.mccool(AT)gte.net> References: <38079699.A6BFEC73(AT)delorean.de> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 18:08:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Stainless Steel Illusion Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I got my copy in 1987, if I remember correctly, from Classic Motorbooks. Price was $24.95, as for how many copies were printed, I have no idea. Best $24.95 I ever spent.
Brian McCool ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Reinemuth <micha(AT)delorean.de> To: <dmcnews(AT)egroups.com> Sent: Friday, October 15, 1999 4:03 PM Subject: [DML] Stainless Steel Illusion
> Did anybody know the original sales price, publishing year, and printed copies > of "stainless steel illusion"? > > -- > Gruss > > Michael Reinemuth > ------------------------------------------------------- > eMail: micha(AT)delorean.de - Heidelberg, Germany > http://www.delorean.de - DeLorean Site Deutschland > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: > www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator(AT)dmcnews.com > >
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Just a quick heads up for 81DMC edition owners:
There is a brief update dealing with 1/24th scale torsion bars on the DMC Bulletin Board.
http://www.totalimmersion.com/dmcboard/index.html
Lee
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A few years back I investigated the prospect of re-printing the book - I worked in the printing industry at the time - and located the original films used to create the plates that printed the book. The original year of publication was 1983, and it sold for $17.95. I was told by the original publishers that they printed 10,000 copies.
I estimated it would take about $20,000 to reprint 1,300 books (1,000 softcover and 300 hardcover) using the original films. I had commitments for a little more than half that amount from various DML'ers before interest died out.
James
At 4:03 PM -0500 10/15/99, Michael Reinemuth wrote: > Did anybody know the original sales price, publishing year, and printed >copies >of "stainless steel illusion"? > >-- >Gruss > >Michael Reinemuth
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The only "keying" I have had happen to my DeLorean is people running there= fingers across the stainless when the car is dirty. I came out one night = to find a nice smiley face on the hood of my car (didn't take too much work= to get this out) and on another occasion, I had KISS (I would guess the gr= oup) written on the tops of the doors on both sides (the car was at that t= ime living on a very dusty car port). I can still see these scratches when= I clean and polish the car (but haven't yet tried to buff them out).
Michael Babb VIN 3472
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Robert Greenhaw wrote:
> Is it possible for the stainless to get damaged by someone > keying or knifing? Just how much damage would it cause?
Keys are made of various soft metals. These metals are much harder than th= e paint on ordinary cars but softer than the stainless on a DeLorean. You could rub out a light scratch with a Scotchbright pad. A determined vandal *might* scrape a key against your DeLorean hard enough to make a serious scratch. But if he did so, take consolation in the thought that his key wa= s probably ruined by your much harder stainless. That vandal is walking home= !
The DeLorean's 304 stainless is "kitchen grade," the same as a typical knif= e blade. This could probably put a nasty sctrach in a DeLorean and damage th= e knife blade at the same time.
Stainless is also relatively impervious to the ordinary spray paint a vanda= l might use, since it is much easier to clean than a painted car.
If someone *really* wanted to vandalize a DeLorean, they should use a hammer. Big dents and broken glass are bad news for DeLoreans, even worse than they are for most ordinary cars.
(I sure hope I don't have any enemies lurking out there . . .)
- Mike Substelny
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> Is it possible for the stainless to get damaged by someone > keying or knifing? Just how much damage would it cause?
Keys are made of various soft metals. These metals are much harder than th= e paint on ordinary cars but softer than the stainless on a DeLorean. You could rub out a light scratch with a Scotchbright pad. A determined vandal *might* scrape a key against your DeLorean hard enough to make a serious scratch. But if he did so, take consolation in the thought that his key wa= s probably ruined by your much harder stainless. That vandal is walking home= !
The DeLorean's 304 stainless is "kitchen grade," the same as a typical knif= e blade. This could probably put a nasty sctrach in a DeLorean and damage th= e knife blade at the same time.
Stainless is also relatively impervious to the ordinary spray paint a vanda= l might use, since it is much easier to clean than a painted car.
If someone *really* wanted to vandalize a DeLorean, they should use a hammer. Big dents and broken glass are bad news for DeLoreans, even worse than they are for most ordinary cars.
(I sure hope I don't have any enemies lurking out there . . .)
- Mike Substelny
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Does anyone know anything about DeLoreans that were originally shipped to the Middle East from the factory in early 1982?
I have some documentation that lists a quantity of spare parts that were shipped to:
Abdulaziz Ali Mutawa P.O. Box 164 Kuwait
This was in March of 1982. I have beentold that these parts were still around as late as the Gulf War, at which time they were bombed and destroyed.
I also have a factory service bulletin from eaarly 1982 that says it covers "all areas except middle east".
As I am keenly interested in the production chronology and VINs in general, I 'd be interested in knowing more about these cars/parts.
James
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The stainless steel is impervious to damage from virtually all cleaning products. You could even use gasoline on the stainless without any harm. If the product states that it is recommended for stainless it should work fine.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: Robert Greenhaw <deloreandude(AT)juno.com> > > I was at school; the othrer day when I saw a "heavy-duty, all-purpose" > cleaner called Versatle. It appears to be an industrial or commercial > cleaner, > but one of the many things it cleans is stainless steel. I was just > curious if > it may be possible if ine could use it to polish the stainless on a > DeLorean? > > Later, > Robert
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)att.net> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 16:09:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: battery problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Either something is draining your battery or you have a bad battery. The most common cause of battery drain is a problem in the courtesy light circuit. Here is a simple test: remove fuse # 12 and see if the problem goes away.
PS: The defroster circuit only works with the ignition turned on.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: rickaye(AT)webtv.net > > i i went out to my delorean for a short trip to the store, i learned > that my battery was dead. since i have had the car, this has not > happened. i quickly jumped off the car and was on m way. for saftey > sake, i parked on a hill, in case there was a need to jump start the > car. well the trip to the store was find, so the altnator must be > fine. i was right though, i had to jump start the car . the trip home > was agian fine. i even cut the car off and then re started it. i > think that i may have accidently turned on the defroster button the > other day. is this what could have caused the drain on the battery? > also the battery is agian dead today. is this because i didn't put a > charger on the battery ? i thought that the trip to the store would > have allowed the altinator to have charged it enough. also does the > right side passanger door need the post extentions that shut off the > aviator lights on the doors? or maby is it that i just need a new > battery ? any help would be great. > > p.s. - does anyone know where to purchase the ultima battery. > > thanks > officer rick
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Totaled 1981 D in a salvage yard in Colorado Springs, Colorado. I haven't seen it but I talked to them. It's been rolled but almost everything is there. Has sold the Alt. and 2 wheel caps. Wants $1500 for the whole car. Is an 81 5-speed with gray interior. Sounds pretty beat up, the drivers door is inside the car, broken wind shield, bent panels etc. Good title. It's at: Best Foreign Used Parts, phone 719-633-5658. Colorado Springs is about 70 miles south of Denver.
I did ask what he wants for the wheels and it's $75 each.
I'll add the Vin to the registry as being totaled (for now).
Dick Ross Vin 3000
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)att.net> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 21:35:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Stainless Steel Illusion Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I have my copy in front of me but to my surprise there is no date of publication. I believe it was published in 86 or 87, the price was $17.95.
As you probably know, hard cover originals are now worth between $250 and $300.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: Michael Reinemuth <micha(AT)delorean.de> > > Did anybody know the original sales price, publishing year, and printed copies > of "stainless steel illusion"? > > -- > Gruss > > Michael Reinemuth
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I can't really give you firm answers to these questions, but I would HIGHLY recommend that you search for these products at the http://www.usadmc.com/ online store. Their parts ordering catalog has prices for all of the relevant glass portions, and as I recall, they were quite reasonable. They will also have prices for complete replacements for many of the interior components.
You may also find the parts manual that is available from the http://www.dmcnews.com/ site valuable for figuring out exactly which parts you will need.
'Hope that helps,
Jess http://www.biddin.com/delorean/ VIN#5220
Mrgolf77(AT)aol.com wrote: > > Hello list, > I am looking into a DeLorean project car to work on this winter. All the > windows are cracked or broken out. Is the glass expensive? the car itself > is in decent shape and has low mileage except the right door will probably > need to be replaced. A U-haul truck backed into it and pushed it up out of > place. A brand new door is to much for me, does anyone out there have a > parts car they would sell me one off? please email me directly if you do. I > really need the door! the interior looks pretty ratty too, is a complete > upholstery kit available? if so, how much do you think I shoud expect to pay > for one. > > Thanks > > Phelps > "not yet" > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: > www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator(AT)dmcnews.com
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I've heard of this luggage rack but have never seen pictures of one on the Delorean. Does anybody have one on their D right now that could put the picture in the vault? I'm really interested to see what it looks like....and where it goes. thanks
Erik Geerdink
p.s still wondering about that ignition question.....
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Robert Greenhaw wrote:
> Is it possible for the stainless to get damaged by someone > keying or knifing? Just how much damage would it cause?
This has occurred to my Delorean, all the down the driver's side. I was ups= et when I saw it, but the scratch was light and with a scotch brite pad it = came very easily.
Robert Starling Vin#5252
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: DMC83in99(AT)aol.com Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 09:20:28 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: luggage rack Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
there's a picture in the back of the DeLorean one catalog, and it seems as if I've seen one on one of these websites. Just look around for one that has shots from the original dealers brochure, I believe it's in there.
Scott 16738
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: DeLorean31(AT)aol.com Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 10:56:52 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: SO.N.J.CAR SHOW 10/18 (Correction) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
This is the same show I posted to the list the other day. It is our Fall Social for DeLorean Mid Atlantic. The correct date is Oct. 17th. For all the information again, got to the URL listed below
http://www.cranfest.org/html/festival.shtml
Gary Gore Activities Director DeLorean Mid Atlantic
In a message dated 10/15/99 12:22:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jtrealty(AT)webspan.net writes:
<< This sunday there will be a car show in Chatsworth, n.j. it is exit 67 off of the gsp. We will have at least 6 deloreans. If you need further info call 201-573-8229 evenings
DAVID TEITELBAUM VIN 10757
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> Michael Reinemuth wrote: > > Did anybody know the original sales price, publishing year, and printed copies > of "stainless steel illusion"?
I assume you are referring to the hardback 1st edition by John Lamm, then senior editor of "Road & Track", with commentary by Mike Knepper, former DMC executive.
The book is titled "De Lorean" and subtitled "Stainless Steel Illusion". (Note the space between "De" and "Lorean". That is correct. Throughout the book that is how the name of the man and the car is printed.)
It was published by The Newport Press of Santa Ana, CA in 1983, printed in Singapore, and distributed by Motorbooks International of Osceola, Wisconsin. The book was published while De Lorean was waiting trial for the cocaine deal and before he was acquitted.
According to Lamm, the book originally "....was to be the story of a dream car come true, an adventure in advanced engineering and skillful marketing, an inspiration for those who believe they have a better idea....."
Newport Press ISBN: 0-930880-09-9
Library of Congress card number: 83-60220
If you really want to know how many copies were printed I'm sure either The Newport Press or Motorbooks International would be happy to look up that figure for you. Give 'em a call!
If you are interested, Barnes and Nobel's online network of out-of-print dealers lists one for sale at $325.
Regards, Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982)
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In a message dated 10/16/99 9:09:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time, DMCJOE(AT)att.net writes:
<< As you probably know, hard cover originals are now worth between $250 and $300. >> There is one book on EBAY as of 10/16/99 at $120.00,ends on 10/19/99.
Claude
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No, I believe that was either a typo or maybe they got their facts wrong. Am I right or wrong by saying DeLoreans were in production from 1981-1983? I thought that's when they were in production.
John Feldman
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 11:36:13 -0700 From: wb4mnf(AT)atl.org Subject: [DML] Look at your car. Chassis number and VIN Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I am trying to come up with some correlation between chassis number and VIN in order to have some extra ammunition when I try to exchange my theft title and bill of sale from the insurance company for a 'rebuilt' title.
I need to show that there is a strong correlation (hopefull 1:1) between VIN and Chassis number on the 1981 cars. Ga DMV is a PITA!
So for all who have 81 cars and do not mind taking a peek underneath on the drivers side rear chassis/frame (hopefully your frame is not so rusty that the plate is gone.
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Numbers are big. Almost an inch tall on mine. There are 6 of them. If they are the same as the numbers on the tail end of your VIN, please let me know. If not, please let me know along with the numbers here and your corresponding VIN.
Thanks.
-bob
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The only addition I would make to this is that although the Stainless is pr= etty hard to damage, the same does not go for trim, tires, etc. If you use= a caustic substance to clean the car, It could do damage to painted areas = (such as the facia)
Michael Babb VIN 3472 ----- Original Message ----- =
From: DMC Joe =
To: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com =
Sent: Friday, October 15, 1999 1:59 PM Subject: [DML] Re: Is it safe to use this on DeLoreans?
The stainless steel is impervious to damage from virtually all cleaning products. You could even use gasoline on the stainless without any harm. If the product states that it is recommended for stainless it should work fine. =
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: Robert Greenhaw <deloreandude(AT)juno.com> > =
> I was at school; the othrer day when I saw a "heavy-duty, all-purpose" > cleaner called Versatle. It appears to be an industrial or commercial > cleaner, > but one of the many things it cleans is stainless steel. I was just > curious if > it may be possible if ine could use it to polish the stainless on a > DeLorean? > =
> Later, > Robert
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> I was at school; the othrer day when I saw a "heavy-duty, all-purpose" > cleaner called Versatle. It appears to be an industrial or commercial > cleaner, > but one of the many things it cleans is stainless steel. I was just > curious if > it may be possible if ine could use it to polish the stainless on a > DeLorean? > =
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 16:31:34 -0400 From: Josh Haldeman <haldeman.4(AT)osu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0.793e0083.253a110a(AT)aol.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Stainless Steel Illusion Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
At the rate that this book is increasing in value, it's going price should
exceed that of our cars someday soon! (hehe)
Josh
VIN 5102
CBL302(AT)aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 10/16/99 9:09:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time, DMCJOE(AT)att.net > writes:
> As you probably know, hard cover originals are now worth between $250 and > $300.
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 17:49:24 -0400 From: Ann & Ed Thompson <RappaRivaRat(AT)erols.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0.b0a4be3d.253a1f54(AT)aol.com> Subject: [DML] Re: DeLoreans on Chris' car site Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> BondAtomic(AT)aol.com wrote: > > No, I believe that was either a typo or maybe they got their facts wrong. Am > I right or wrong by saying DeLoreans were in production from 1981-1983?
Yes and no. Standard production at the factory started in December of 1980 and ended in October of 1982 (or was that July?). This does not include the unknown exact number that were assembled after the factory closed, assembled by supervision and management, and were designated 1983's. The British government mandated that all 1982's be sold before DMCL could start building 1983 models. That never happened. In reality almost all 1983's are nothing more than left over late model 82's. A few of the very latest 83's were 82 models that were actually retrofitted with planned changes for the 1983 models that were never built. The last DeLorean was assembled at the DMCL in Dunmurry on December 24th, 1982. A true, honest-to-god 1983 production line never operated so there were no 1983 regular production models ever built, only 82's that were designated 83's.
So now that we know there were no actual 1980 or 1983 production models, this could get interesting. The DeLorean I saw on Chris' site was clearly a right-hand-drive setup. It had the toll booth windows rather than the slide-bys which indicates that it is not likely a prototype. So, I assume this was a British version. Now then, 1981 DeLoreans began production in December of 1980. Perhaps Great Britain has a regulation that says an automobile must be titled in the year it was built. Actually, as I understand it, all early right-hand versions were converted in after-market shops.
So, could it be that a converted early 1981 DeLorean that was built and sold in Great Britain in December of 1980, was actually titled as a 1980?
BTW, has anyone bothered to ask Chris?
Regards, Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982)
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 17:50:34 -0400 (EDT) From: William T Wilson <fluffy(AT)snurgle.org> In-Reply-To: <0.b0a4be3d.253a1f54(AT)aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: DeLoreans on Chris' car site Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 BondAtomic(AT)aol.com wrote:
> No, I believe that was either a typo or maybe they got their facts > wrong. Am I right or wrong by saying DeLoreans were in production from > 1981-1983? I thought that's when they were in production.
Those are the model years, however the cars were actually only produced during 1981 and 1982. There was a pause in production during 1982; those produced before the pause are 1982 models and those produced after are 1983 models (most, if not all of which were sold while the company was in receivership).
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Check out "http://win.autotrader.com/aol.cfm?AD=AOL_STATIC" They are having a contest called "Wheels and Reels" to match different auto's with different movies. The grand prize for winning the contest is a 1981 Delorean. Neat !!!
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 15:50:29 -0700 From: luke.sandel(AT)cmich.edu In-Reply-To: <l03130300b42d468f0c7d(AT)[207.221.84.69]> Subject: [DML] Re: Concours Handbook & Judging Sheets Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
"DMC Quality Assured" label on driver side fixed glass acceptable on DDXXXXX VINs only.
...but, I have an 82(CD)build with that sticker in place (and at a horrible angle too), see
http://labwww.csv.cmich.edu/luke/auto/delorean/garage/17.jpg
So, why would earlier builds be excluded?
Just curious, Luke
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I sent a message to Chris about a week ago (when the first thread was poste= d) but have not heard any response...... ----- Original Message ----- =
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Sent: Saturday, October 16, 1999 3:49 PM Subject: [DML] Re: DeLoreans on Chris' car site
So, could it be that a converted early 1981 DeLorean that was built and sol= d in Great Britain in December of 1980, was actually titled as a 1980?
BTW, has anyone bothered to ask Chris?
Regards, Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982)
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In a message dated 10/16/99 6:45:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, RappaRivaRat(AT)erols.com writes:
<< Actually, as I understand it, all early right-hand versions were converted in after-market shops. >> No,that is not true,if you look in the black cover, Delorean Dealer brochure you will see a picture of a early right hand black body riding on a tellis carrier. Claude Vin000570
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 19:26:23 -0700 From: Lee <Lee(AT)radiance.com> In-Reply-To: <3808E0A6.5DF13829(AT)osu.edu> References: <0.793e0083.253a110a(AT)aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Stainless Steel Illusion Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
At 04:31 PM 10/16/99 -0400, you wrote: >At the rate that this book is increasing in value, it's going price should >exceed that of our cars someday soon! (hehe) > Josh > VIN 5102 > > reply:
Hi Josh5102,
Well not for a while, although I have heard that some copies have sold for $1856.43 with the DeLorean thrown in as a premium!
Lee
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Hey, all. I'm a non-owner (hopefully a future owner!! hehehe), but I'm doing a English essay on the Delorean and I need some info. I've got the basic specs for the car, but basically I need to know how far off the ground the car is. From ground to the top of the roof. If anyone happens to know, I'd appreciate it if you'd pass the info on to me. Thanks!!!
Nick
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle(AT)enteract.com> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 22:12:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] DMC-News T-shirts and Stuff Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
The DMC-News "store" is temporarily back open! There are official DMC-News T-shirts that I had made just before the DOA convention, and several other items left from James' prior stock. Also featured are DeLorean Holiday Greeting Cards, and the DeLorean poster. The T-shirts look very nice, my old Apple digital camera does not do it justice.
Some of the items are exclusive to the DML. Some are in very limited (read "one") quantity. This will be for a limited time only, I intend to cease this effort and close the store back up by the end of the year. Orders will be taken and items reserved in the order I get your emails. Instructions are on the web site.
Any profits (so far there aren't any) from this go back into the DMC-News effort, paying to keep eGroups commercial-free, for the printing of the owner's directory and paying for the web-server.
Please check it out at http://www.dmcnews.com/Merchandise/supporttemp.html
Dave
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