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----------------------------------------------------------------- 3864. John Hanley Re: No Subject 3865. Ralf Philipp Re: Chassis number and VIN 3866. John van der Werff timing DeLorean engine and replacing sensors 3867. Martin Gutkowski Re: DeLoreans on Chris' car site 3868. ROBLAMROCK(AT)aol.com Re: DeLoreans originally shipped to Middle East 3869. Martin Gutkowski Re: Louvers 3870. Jim Shaughnessy Re: Key 3871. jan(AT)vdwouw.demon.nl Re: luggage rack 3872. DMC Joe Re: Look at your car. Chassis number and VIN 3873. DMC Joe Re: timing DeLorean engine and replacing sensors 3874. DMC Joe Re: DeLoreans on Chris' car site 3875. BRUCE BENSON Re: timing DeLorean engine and replacing sensors 3876. Dave Swingle Chassis Number thread 3877. DMC Joe Cleveland 3878. Jake Re: DMC-12 3879. Danrc30 Broke my mirror... please help... 3880. Watkins Family JZD on E! 3881. PaulF52093(AT)aol.com Re: 81, 82, 83 3882. James Espey Re: Concour Manual 3883. Yocom, Shannon BTTF Soundtrack 3884. DMC Joe Cleveland Update 3885. IVe099(AT)aol.com Re: DMC-12 3886. Mike03062(AT)aol.com Re: DeLoreans on Chris' car site 3887. NJP548(AT)aol.com Re: DMC-12 3888. William T Wilson Re: 81, 82, 83 3889. Duke Air/Fuel mixture adjustment 3890. Mike03062(AT)aol.com Re: DMC-12 3891. Cecil Longwisch Window sticker 3892. Michael Babb Stainless Steel Illusion 3893. Jim Brake Shims Question? 3894. AFPrep88(AT)aol.com Re: JZD on E! 3895. Danrc30 Re: Here's the answer! 81, 82, 83 3896. NJP548(AT)aol.com Re: DeLoreans on Chris' car site 3897. Sean Howley Re: Broke my mirror... please help... 3898. BRUCE BENSON Re: Concour Manual 3899. Sean Howley Wrenchead.com 3900. Peter Lucas mystery connectors in engine compartment 3901. raddad(AT)cmn.net Re: Stainless Steel Illusion 3902. Tamir Ardon DMC-12 3903. eurojet(AT)sdcoe.k12.ca.us Parts Origin 3904. Dale Schaub Re: Broke my mirror... please help... 3905. Murray Fisher Re: mystery connectors in engine compartment -----------------------------------------------------------------
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I think its more like the Lotus Europa folks, if you were to fill the rea= r windows with stainless ( above engine cover ) the rear becomes very simil= ar to the D. The Louvers are important tho they do cool the engine / engine compartment
John Hanley Vin 16369 considering a Lotus Europa
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Ralf Philipp" <philipp(AT)mindless.com> References: <7uad2d$umr2(AT)eGroups.com> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 22:55:32 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re:Chassis number and VIN Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Numbers are big. Almost an inch tall on mine. > There are 6 of them. If they are the same as the > numbers on the tail end of your VIN, please let me know. > If not, please let me know along with the numbers here > and your corresponding VIN. > > -bob
Numbers on my D: VIN ...10284 007769 on the frame (plate in the motor-compartment)
10281 hand-written on the bar directly behind the bumper
Ralf.
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "John van der Werff" <j.vanderwerff(AT)hetnet.nl> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 22:57:44 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] timing DeLorean engine and replacing sensors Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hy,
I checked the timing of the ignition of our D (with a strobe-light) and found it is set to late, about 8 deg. instead of 13 deg. as is should be according to the manual. Now I am puzzeld; to adjust the timing one has to reposition the distributor, to get acces to the distributor I have to remove the air-manifold and the k-jetronic valve. So how do I know what position the distributor should be in ? Also i found a posting in the archives that said never to adjust the timing of a D. Should I leave the timing as it is until I have checked all the other systems ? The engine is running almost OK, just sometimes a little rough.
I am replacing all the sensors, relays and switches at this time. I found that some of them have been replaced by a previous owner with not original types. I have found the original type nrs. of most of the sensors on the internet, yet I do not have the correct type and manufacturer for two devices:
a) lambda thermo-switch (probably Bosch) b) themparature sending unit for temp-gauge on dashboard
Does anybody know the original types and any replacement parts ?
John VIN 1095
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 22:14:28 +0100 From: Martin Gutkowski <martin.is(AT)connect-2.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0.b0a4be3d.253a1f54(AT)aol.com> <3808F2E4.5A77432(AT)erols.com> <3809D254.96DF681C(AT)connect-2.co.uk> <380A0191.AF22F88F(AT)erols.com> Subject: [DML] Re: DeLoreans on Chris' car site Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Remember the first 500 or so cars were crash-tested, and also the car in question (which I am convinced is a "normal" production year) is a mis-nomer becasue it has a personalised plate and therefore one cannot tell the year from it (the plate was sold seperately from the car). Rob Lamrock has some details on this particular car.
For everyone's info, a UK number plate as standard is in the form of a letter grouped with three numbers, and three letters.The letter with the three numbers designates the year (recently this has been changed to every 6 months), and the three letters designates location of registration (to some bizarre code).
Add to this the fact that the numbers cycled over from XXX 111Y to A111 XXX from 1983 to 84. For Example Ian Titley's '83 D has the plate UOA 596Y, My car (Citroen), registered in 1989 is F244 XCV.
Irish plates, which many D's carry, are in the form of 3 letters, 4 numbers.
Martin
Ann & Ed Thompson wrote:
> > Martin Gutkowski wrote: > > > > In the UK a new car will be dated from the day it is REGISTERED > > with DVLA (Driver and Vehicle Licensing Association). > > If that is the case, any 1981 DeLorean that was built and sold before January > 1, 1981 in the UK (remember here that the 1981 model began production in > December of 1980), AND was registered with the UK DVLA in before January 1, 1981 > would, in fact, have been titled and registered as a 1980 model!
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In a message dated 10/16/1999 2:18:48 AM GMT Daylight Time, james(AT)usadmc.com writes:
> Does anyone know anything about DeLoreans that were originally shipped to > the Middle East from the factory in early 1982?
After the Gulf war, Captain Steve Carrington "rescued" one of the Kuwaiti cars. Built Dec '81 and VIN # CD010447. There were also dealerships in Jeddah and Riyadh in Saudi Arabia. Most of these cars were purchased by oil workers out there.
Robert Lamrock Belfast
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 22:16:15 +0100 From: Martin Gutkowski <martin.is(AT)connect-2.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <06b101bf18c4$3d7ca9e0$4500a8c0(AT)ANAHEIM> <380A2839.2F955E00(AT)eng.umd.edu> Subject: [DML] Re: Louvers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I heard somewhere the louvers were originally meant as a "GTi" trim option, but they reduced drag and also helped cool the engine, drawing air up through the engine compartment. Thus they were added as standard.
Martin
Rendy Cheng wrote:
> Hi Phil, > I think it is called _louver_ (spelling?) Initially, there is no > louver. The rear vertical window is always there since the > prototype. I think the louver it is just an add on. > > rendy
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 18:01:09 -0400 From: Jim Shaughnessy <jjs(AT)nadn.navy.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7ucrom$d4nb(AT)eGroups.com> Subject: [DML] Re:Key Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I just had one made there last week. Our Home Depot didn't have the Ilco blank, but they cross referenced it to a Cole VL5. I haven't had any problems with it.
Jim #11544
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 15:05:21 -0700 From: jan(AT)vdwouw.demon.nl In-Reply-To: <7u93m7$sv3e(AT)eGroups.com> Subject: [DML] Re: luggage rack Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> I've heard of this luggage rack but have never seen pictures of one on > the Delorean. Does anybody have one on their D right now that could > put the picture in the vault? I'm really interested to see what it > looks like....and where it goes. thanks > > Erik Geerdink
Erik,
On page 16 of "DMC-News, the Zine" #3 made by James Espey there's a complete description on how to fit such a luggagerack yourself...
you can find the zine at ftp://dmcnews.com/pub/zine003.pdf
at http://www.dmcnews.com/Biblio/zine.html you'll find links for downloading the other two editions.
Good Luck,
JAN van de Wouw The Netherlands
Think Different... Use a Mac... Live the Dream... Drive a DeLorean...
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)att.net> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 20:22:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Look at your car. Chassis number and VIN Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
To all, Thought I would jump in here to help the moderators. Before everyone crawls under their D's to look at their chassis numbers and in turn start an avalanche of posts that there chassis and Vin numbers don't match; there not supposed to.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: LHEMB(AT)aol.com > > Re: the chasis/vin correlation. First off, I never realized that there was a > separate chassis #. This morning I crawled under for a look and found the
> plate as described. The numbers on this plate are punched from the back (as > on a license plate) and are about 1" tall. The chassis number on my car is > 004721; my D is an OCT 1981 car and my VIN ends 005830. Obviously, this is > not a match! I have had my D for almost ten years, and to the best of my > knowledge, it is unmolested. I am eager to hear the results of other > inspections. > Brian in Florida; VIN: 5830
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)att.net> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 20:24:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: timing DeLorean engine and replacing sensors Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
No ! No! No!, You do not have to remove the intake manifold to adjust the timing. The distributor lock nut is adjacent to intake tube # 4 and spark plug # 4.You will need a long open end wrench to loosen the nut.
BTW: Are you sure you are referencing the correct plug and pulley notch when taking your reading. Eight degrees is almost outside of the operational range of the engine. As a matter of fact the DeLorean ignition timing is so precise that the factory setting can virtually be left unchanged for the life of the car.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: John van der Werff <j.vanderwerff(AT)hetnet.nl> > > Hy, > > I checked the timing of the ignition of our D (with a strobe-light) and > found it is set to late, about 8 deg. instead of 13 deg. as is should be > according to the manual. Now I am puzzeld; to adjust the timing one has to > reposition the distributor, to get acces to the distributor I have to remove > the air-manifold and the k-jetronic valve. So how do I know what position > the distributor should be in ? > Also i found a posting in the archives that said never to adjust the timing > of a D. Should I leave the timing as it is until I have checked all the > other systems ? The engine is running almost OK, just sometimes a little > rough. > > I am replacing all the sensors, relays and switches at this time. I found > that some of them have been replaced by a previous owner with not original > types. I have found the original type nrs. of most of the sensors on the > internet, yet I do not have the correct type and manufacturer for two > devices: > > a) lambda thermo-switch (probably Bosch) > b) themparature sending unit for temp-gauge on dashboard > > Does anybody know the original types and any replacement parts ? > > John > VIN 1095
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)att.net> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 20:24:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: DeLoreans on Chris' car site Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
The fist 500 "black cars" were used for training and factory systems testing, not crash tests.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: Martin Gutkowski <martin.is(AT)connect-2.co.uk> > > Remember the first 500 or so cars were crash-tested, and also the car in question > (which I am convinced is a "normal" production year) is a mis-nomer becasue it has a > personalised plate and therefore one cannot tell the year from it (the plate was sold > seperately from the car). Rob Lamrock has some details on this particular car. > > > Martin
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut(AT)worldnet.att.net> References: <000701bf18e2$43e4b200$f39c79c3(AT)750dvd> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 20:27:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: timing DeLorean engine and replacing sensors Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
The timing can be adjusted without removing anything. With a good flashlight look at the base of the distributor. It can be seen ( barely ) at the drivers side of the engine near the fire wall. There is a nut there locking the distributor in place. I belive it takes an11mm wrench but I'm relying on my memory. Loosen the nut and with the timing light connected, rotate the distributor until you see 13 degrees before top dead center. There are two notches on the crankshaft pulley so you can use cyl number one or cyl number six. Number one is at the right front of the engine and number 6 is at the left rear. Line the notch on the pully up with the 13 degree line on the timing cover.
Bruce Benson
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle(AT)enteract.com> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 21:01:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Chassis Number thread Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I'm killing it off. We've seen enough to establish that the factory did not tie the frame to a particular VIN.
dave
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)att.net> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 21:16:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Cleveland Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Just a reminder to let all DeLorean owners know that we will be in the area next Saturday and Sunday to perform inspections, servicing and a tech session. Everyone is invited, even if you don't have your DeLorean stop on by and introduce yourself. Go to our web-site for complete details.
If the moderators would be so kind, several list members have reported to me that they were unable to access our web-site therefore I was hoping that I could have our press release re-printed here.
PRESS RELEASE 10/08/99 DeLorean Services of Atlanta Georgia announces its House Call Tour to Cleveland Ohio. DeLorean Services, the nations only “on location” repair service, continuous it’s unique maintenance service by visiting Cleveland Ohio on the last weekend of the month. Joe LoRe' , owner operator of DeLorean Services, will travel to Cleveland with his son Alan to conduct a technical clinic for DeLorean owners in that part of the country. Better known as “DMC Joe” by DeLorean lover’s worldwide, he made the following comments: “We are really looking forward to this trip for two main reasons. First, we have lots of fans in the Cleveland area, many of which we regularly converse with via e-mail and by phone. This will be an opportunity to meet them and their cars in person. Secondly we will be rolling back the clock to experience the excitement and relaxation of the train. When we planned this trip we weren’t aware that Amtrak was about to roll out there “Companion Special”. This very limited special allows two people who are traveling identical schedules to pay just one rail fair. This saving will allow us to take advantage of first class accomedidations. This includes a private room that sleeps two with meals included. I travel this way whenever time and budget permit; it will be Alan’s first “real train” experience. We are very fortunate that we are being provided a fully equipped service facility with lifts to inspect, and service many DeLoreans during our three-day stay. While we are there we will visit the DMC warehouse in Columbus courtesy of Stephen Wynne. In addition to inspections and service we will also conduct a Tech Session on Sunday the 24th from 3 to 4 PM. Pizza and hot dogs will be provided. We invite everyone to come visit us during our three day stay, even if you don’t bring your DeLorean come on by and say hello”. The event will begin on Saturday October 23 9:00 AM to 6:00 PM resume at 11:00 AM Sunday October 24th with a Tech Session at 3:00 PM to 4 PM. There is no cover or admission to attend. Owners reserving time for a complete 50-point inspection and service, if requested or required. A fee is imposed to lock in a reservation. Reservations confirmed prior to midnight Monday October 18 will receive a “Air Bleed By-Pass Kit” at 50% off the regular price including installation. Vehicles may be dropped off for later pick up. For complete details visit their web-site at www.deloreanservices.com or you can e-mail DMC Joe at dmcjoe(AT)att.net. Reservations can also be made by phone at 770 631-4800
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Phil,
Some one else will need to verify this, but I think the '12' in 'DMC-12' ca= me from the original estimated cost for the car: $12,000.00. I believe I = read that somewhere. =
...Any other takers?
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What does the "12" mean in DeLorean DMC-12?
-Phil philf(AT)ssesco.com
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I broke my rear view mirror. The glass is fine, but the pivot point of the = angling mechanism is popping in and out of place. Sometimes it works, and o= ther times it pops out and wobbles around. Can it be fixed? If not, are the= se mirrors still available? Is there a cross reference? Are they easy to re= place since they are stuck on the windshield? Please help. Thanks. ---Dan
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:06:17 -0400 From: Watkins Family <watbmv(AT)megalink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] JZD on E! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I've tried writing to the E! channel regarding any future airings of the "True Hollywood Story" episode. If I can't get an air date does anyone have a copy of the show that would be willing to copy it for me and send (I'll pay, of course)
Thanks
Tom #5732
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: PaulF52093(AT)aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:20:42 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: 81, 82, 83 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
There were many variations within "model years" for the DeLorean. My '82 has no gas flap and no relief lines on the luggage compartment "hood," but does have the DeLorean name (small) on the hood toward the front. It's tough to categorize model years by cosmetic details, which tended to change on a constant basis. A good example is the original in-windshield radio antenna, which was supplanted early on by the rear retractable mast.
Paul Feine #10944
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ In-Reply-To: <7uavfl$h30k(AT)eGroups.com> References: <l03130300b42d468f0c7d(AT)[207.221.84.69]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 11:25:43 -0500 From: James Espey <james(AT)usadmc.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Concour Manual Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> "DMC Quality Assured" label on driver side fixed glass acceptable on > DDXXXXX VINs only. > >...but, I have an 82(CD)build with that sticker in place (and at a >horrible angle too), see > >http://labwww.csv.cmich.edu/luke/auto/delorean/garage/17.jpg > >So, why would earlier builds be excluded?
It comes down to documentation. What can be documented as original and what can't be. I have a copy of a DMC memorandum that says these labels were put on the 83's, primarily to differentiate them from the 82's at a glance. Unfortunately, you don't mention what your VIN is, but this wouldn't be the first time that the "documentation" contradicted what was seen, or contradicted other documents.
James Espey DeLorean Motor Company Houston, Texas
281/568-9573 800/USA-DMC1 http://www.usadmc.com
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Yocom, Shannon" <syocom(AT)mitchellco.com> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:48:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] BTTF Soundtrack Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BF1988.B04559C0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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I have the origional BTTF Soundtrack on Vinyl I'd like to get rid of. Perfect condition - No scratches - make offer Anyone interested? Reply direct to me and not to the list.
Shannon VIN# Not Yet! Proceeds go to my DMC savings account!
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<P><FONT FACE="Arial">I have the origional BTTF Soundtrack on Vinyl I'd like to get rid of.</FONT> <BR><FONT FACE="Arial">Perfect condition - No scratches - make offer</FONT> <BR><FONT FACE="Arial">Anyone interested? Reply direct to me and not to the list.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT FACE="Arial">Shannon</FONT> <BR><FONT FACE="Arial">VIN# Not Yet!</FONT> <BR><FONT FACE="Arial">Proceeds go to my DMC savings account!</FONT> </P>
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)att.net> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:38:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Cleveland Update Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Somehow in the copy and paste procedures to load our press release on to the list some typo's were made and other important information omitted, here is an update.
Delete: DMC warehouse visit.
Insert: Address of service facility and Sunday Tech Session, Deluxe Auto Lease 23632 Mercantile Road, Beachwood, OH 44122, 216-831-9455. You can call for directions.
For anyone who wishes to leave their car and or trailer, there is room on the property. Call David Levey at the above number for details.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: DMC Joe <DMCJOE(AT)att.net> > To: DML LIST <dmcnews(AT)egroups.com> > Subject: [DML] Cleveland > Date: Sunday, October 17, 1999 9:16 PM > > Just a reminder to let all DeLorean owners know that we will be in the area > next Saturday and Sunday to perform inspections, servicing and a tech > session. Everyone is invited, even if you don't have your DeLorean stop on > by and introduce yourself. Go to our web-site for complete details. > > If the moderators would be so kind, several list members have reported to > me that they were unable to access our web-site therefore I was hoping that > I could have our press release re-printed here. > > > PRESS RELEASE 10/08/99 > DeLorean Services of Atlanta Georgia announces its House Call Tour to > Cleveland Ohio. DeLorean Services, the nations only “on location” repair > service, continuous it’s unique maintenance service by visiting Cleveland > Ohio on the last weekend of the month. > Joe LoRe' , owner operator of DeLorean Services, will travel to Cleveland > with his son Alan to conduct a technical clinic for DeLorean owners in that > part of the country. Better known as “DMC Joe” by DeLorean lover’s > worldwide, he made the following comments: > “We are really looking forward to this trip for two main reasons. First, we > have lots of fans in the Cleveland area, many of which we regularly > converse with via e-mail and by phone. This will be an opportunity to meet > them and their cars in person. Secondly we will be rolling back the clock > to experience the excitement and relaxation of the train. When we planned > this trip we weren’t aware that Amtrak was about to roll out there > “Companion Special”. This very limited special allows two people who are > traveling identical schedules to pay just one rail fair. This saving will > allow us to take advantage of first class accomedidations. This includes a > private room that sleeps two with meals included. I travel this way > whenever time and budget permit; it will be Alan’s first “real train” > experience. > We are very fortunate that we are being provided a fully equipped service > facility with lifts to inspect, and service many DeLoreans during our > three-day stay. While we are there we will visit the DMC warehouse in > Columbus courtesy of Stephen Wynne. In addition to inspections and service > we will also conduct a Tech Session on Sunday the 24th from 3 to 4 PM. > Pizza and hot dogs will be provided. > We invite everyone to come visit us during our three day stay, even if you > don’t bring your DeLorean come on by and say hello”. The event will begin > on Saturday October 23 9:00 AM to 6:00 PM resume at 11:00 AM Sunday October > 24th with a Tech Session at 3:00 PM to 4 PM. There is no cover or admission > to attend. Owners reserving time for a complete 50-point inspection and > service, if requested or required. A fee is imposed to lock in a > reservation. Reservations confirmed prior to midnight Monday October 18 > will receive a “Air Bleed By-Pass Kit” at 50% off the regular price > including installation. Vehicles may be dropped off for later pick up. > For complete details visit their web-site at www.deloreanservices.com or > you can e-mail DMC Joe at dmcjoe(AT)att.net. Reservations can also be made by > phone at 770 631-4800 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: > www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator(AT)dmcnews.com >
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: IVe099(AT)aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:12:46 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: DMC-12 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
The 12 in DMC-12 stands for what was supposedly going to be the base price of the DeLorean, which was $12,000. Unfortunately JZD didn't come close to his original goal and the base price started near $26,000. So therfore the model could have been the DMC-26.
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Mike03062(AT)aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:23:50 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: DeLoreans on Chris' car site Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Why were the first 500 "D"'s called "Black" cars??????
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: NJP548(AT)aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:27:02 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: DMC-12 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
<< Some one else will need to verify this, but I think the '12' in 'DMC-12' came from the original estimated cost for the car: $12,000.00. I believe I read that somewhere. >> If you go onto Tamir's web page (can't remember the URL) you will see a questionaire that Mr. DeLorean himself filled out and the very first question was that and it is in fact the price the DeLorean was supposed to be sold for but because the price of the British pound went up from 1.40 to 2.40 the price of the car almost doubled.
Later, Nick VIN#1852....still for sale e-mail for info
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:27:16 -0400 (EDT) From: William T Wilson <fluffy(AT)snurgle.org> In-Reply-To: <0.24d1df9a.253ca2da(AT)aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: 81, 82, 83 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 PaulF52093(AT)aol.com wrote:
> There were many variations within "model years" for the DeLorean. My
The DeLorean doesn't *really* have model years. The factory made all changes (not just cosmetic ones) whenever they became available. Part of JZD's "ethical car" concept was that model years were just invented by the car makers to make people buy more new cars. So, as far as DMC was concerned, there were no model years. There had to be a model year to print on the title, so there were, officially, model years, but the factory didn't pay any attention to them.
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Duke" <at88mph(AT)mobis.com> References: <0.deb0ef26.253cbd1e(AT)aol.com> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:21:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Air/Fuel mixture adjustment Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I'm trying to get the air/fuel adjustment set, however, NO ONE in my area will touch the D. (Volvo dealer, Volvo shops, ect) All the other local shops won't touch it either. Since I can't get someone with a gas analizer to touch my car, can someone give me some advice on getting the mixture right (or atleast close!) Any help would be greatly apprecitated!!
Thanks in advance,
Duke
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Mike03062(AT)aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:53:07 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: DMC-12 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Phil,
The early 81 DeLoreans had the gas flap & lines on the bonnet. Early in '81 they discontinued the flap due to stamping problems. ( I believe the small radiused corners cracked) Later that year, they decided the lines added nothing but more stamping problems and cost to the vehicle and they were discontinued. Also early models had "In the windscreen" radio antennas, a bad GM idea, that caused poor reception. DeLorean went to a series of manual front and rear antennas (some with keys) and finally a power rear antenna. The DMC "12" I don't believe anyone really knows where this number 12 came from, the JZD theory to sell his car for $12K is widely held but in my opinion nonsense, I prefer the 12th sketch from the Italian designer or someone grabbed the # 12 "Out of the air" theories.
Mike in NH
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Cecil Longwisch" <dmc1982(AT)compaq.net> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:53:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Window sticker Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
James,
I too have the window sticker on the drivers side. Although I am the third owner, I know the second owner did not put it on and the original owner did not seem the type to care about something like this.
Cecil Longwisch #10663
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Michael Babb" <michael.babb(AT)mindspring.com> References: <069b01bf18b7$f6222d60$4500a8c0(AT)ANAHEIM> <005801bf192a$5ae2d840$5b0aa392(AT)jake> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:07:19 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Stainless Steel Illusion Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF1993.9E83FC00" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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Just wanted to pass this one to everyone. I requested a copy of Stainles= s Steel Illusion from Amazon.com. Here is what they found for me (note the= price
Michael Babb
Greetings from Harvest Booksearch!
We've located a copy of the book you requested, DELOREAN: STAINLESS STEEL ILLUSI by LAMM MICHAEL. The copy we found is a Hardback. Condition: Very Good. The price for this copy is $525.00.
Shipping in North America: $3.95 for priority mail
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:18:18 -0700 From: Jim <starbuck(AT)gate.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Brake Shims Question? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
How do brake shims help your brakes from not squeeking? I don't quite get how that works?
Thanks Jim
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: AFPrep88(AT)aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:22:28 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: JZD on E! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I would also be willing to pay for any taped copy of E! True Hollywood Stories about JZD. Please mail me if you have it!
AFPrep88
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Danrc30" <Danrc30(AT)hotmail.com> References: <0.24d1df9a.253ca2da(AT)aol.com> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:25:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Here's the answer! 81, 82, 83 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I can put the hood line thing to rest right now. I saw the last 1981 and the first 1982 produced side by side. The differences are as follows: 1981 had hood lines and the 1982 did not. Off the top of my head I cannot remember if the 82 had the hood badge or not, but when I get the pictures I took of the two developed, I will let you know. One other BIG difference between the two was the grain of the stainless steel. The 81 was a very smooth, silky grain. The 82 had a more rough, and jaggedy grain to it. The difference is VERY subtle. It isn't noticible unless the cars are side by side and you are looking very closely at them and looking for a difference. I spoke with Rob Grady about this, and he confirmed to me that the factory did indeed change the brushing techniques for the 82 model year. I know for a fact that neither one of these cars was ever re-brushed, because they have never been titled and have been in storage since they were built and shipped. I saw them myself. These observations are not 2nd hand. These cars are brand new and untouched. (Please don't e-mail me for more info about these cars. I just want to answer this question.) I hope this helps. ---Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: <PaulF52093(AT)aol.com> To: <dmcnews(AT)egroups.com> Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 12:20 PM Subject: [DML] Re: 81, 82, 83
> There were many variations within "model years" for the DeLorean. My '82 has > no gas flap and no relief lines on the luggage compartment "hood," but does > have the DeLorean name (small) on the hood toward the front. It's tough to > categorize model years by cosmetic details, which tended to change on a > constant basis. A good example is the original in-windshield radio antenna, > which was supplanted early on by the rear retractable mast. > > Paul Feine > #10944 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: > www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator(AT)dmcnews.com > > > >
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: NJP548(AT)aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 21:08:13 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: DeLoreans on Chris' car site Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In a message dated 10/18/99 8:52:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Mike03062(AT)aol.com writes:
<< Why were the first 500 "D"'s called "Black" cars?????? >> because they didn't have the stainless steel panels put on them(besides the doors of course), they were just the "black" fiberglass underbodies
later, Nick VIN#1852...still for sale if interesed e-mail for info
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Sean Howley" <tsuyoi(AT)mindspring.com> References: <19991018145729.60669.qmail(AT)hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 21:22:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Broke my mirror... please help... Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007B_01BF19AE.DB267DC0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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When I bought my DeLorean 1 1/2 years ago, it had a cracked rear view mirro= r. I just called one of the suppliers and ordered a new one (about $50 I t= hink). In most circumstances, you can get most any part you need from the = suppliers.
Sean Howley VIN#2345
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut(AT)worldnet.att.net> References: <l03130300b42d468f0c7d(AT)[207.221.84.69]> <l03130301b430f9188613(AT)[207.221.84.234]> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:38:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Concour Manual Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I bought my late '81 ( Nov '81 ) new with the Quality Assured sticker on the window. I discover several things about my car that told me my car had gone through the East Coast Quality Assurance Center. I don't think the sticker was unique to the "83 model.
Bruce Benson
> > "DMC Quality Assured" label on driver side fixed glass acceptable on > > DDXXXXX VINs only.
>I have a copy of a DMC memorandum that says these labels were >put > on the 83's, primarily to differentiate them from the 82's at a glance.
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