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----------------------------------------------------------------- 4018. Stian Birkeland DeLorean Service EUROPE 4019. Stian Birkeland LIFT-O-MAT GAS STRUTS STILL EXIST! 4020. Mike Substelny Re: One More Concours Comment 4021. magriese(AT)us.ibm.com Concours, etc. 4022. James Espey Re: One More Concours Comment 4023. Lee Re: Overheating? 4024. Lee Re: Regarding the concourse thread and common mi 4025. Jesse D. Sightler Re: Stainless Steel Illusion 4026. Dick Ryan Concours Thread 4027. saintern New Delorean Site 4028. Murray Fisher Re: Stainless Steel Illusion 4029. NJP548(AT)aol.com Missing Descriptions on wiring diagram 4030. James Espey Functions of the QAC's 4031. Carson Clark Re: Stainless Steel Illusion 4032. Jason Jones Re: Win a DeLorean 4033. dcsj(AT)excite.com Re: LIFT-O-MAT GAS STRUTS STILL EXIST! 4034. Michael Babb Guess The Mystery Part; Win a DeLorean....brochur 4035. Jesse D. Sightler Re: Functions of the QAC's 4036. BondAtomic(AT)aol.com Re: LIFT-O-MAT GAS STRUTS STILL EXIST! 4037. Michael Reinemuth Re: LIFT-O-MAT STILL EXIST and European Parts War 4038. dcsj(AT)excite.com Re: transmission problems! 4039. DMC83in99(AT)aol.com More problems with 16738 4040. dcsj(AT)excite.com Re: Yellow "D" and mysterious fuel problem 4041. James Espey DeLorean in Year 2000 Calendar 4042. J.D. Robbins door lift pistons 4043. J.D. Robbins PJ Grady -----------------------------------------------------------------
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway(AT)hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 06:32:43 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] DeLorean Service EUROPE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello Dirk!
I just wanted to welcome you as a major player for all European DeLorean owners. Your services are welcomed along with Christoph Wirz'of Switzerland.
I believe I speak for all European DeLorean owners when I say that we have been waiting for a service like this. Obviously you know the inside-out of the DeLorean, and from what I can see on your website you really love the DeLorean auto!
Note: This is no critisism of US suppliers, your services are also excellent. But Europe could sure need European branches of PJ Grady's. DeLorean One and DMC Houston. I hope you all are aware that there are hundreds of DeLoreans in Europe.
Why not set up a DeLorean service center in our part of the world?
DMC Houston has an associate in England, Wingray Autos in Liverpool, but I haven't seen any advertisement...Anyone want to elaborate this?
Parts can be ordered easily world-wide but major service is better left to the DeLorean experts. It is easier also to send a body panel to a country in Europe than to the US.
Let us care for our DeLoreans and the DeLoreans will care for us!
Best wishes Stian Birkeland NORWAY
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway(AT)hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 06:45:53 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] LIFT-O-MAT GAS STRUTS STILL EXIST! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Today I saw a Toyota combi-car with gas struts. I passed by as the owner opened the hatch.
Instantly I noticed the white lettering LIFT-O-MAT!!!!
I asked him where he had gotten these particular struts, (the car was a 1993 model) and he told me that his brother worked for a major importer of car parts and was able to get a set of struts.
The struts were "Made in Germany". I asked him when he had changed the struts from the original Toyota struts to the new LIFT-O-MATS... He answered since about 2 months...
At that point I knew that the original DeLorean struts are still being produced and that the brand is still alive!!
Of course he asked me why the "#%Ī& I was interested in gas struts!!! I told him about the DeLorean, and he had of course heard of the car because of the Back to the Future movies.
My point is: 1) I have heard from several that original LIFT-O-MAT gas struts are no longer available. THIS IS NOT TRUE! The interesting part here is whether they produce gas struts with the right pressure for the DeLorean.
2) Where can you get LIFT-O-MAT gas struts?
PLEASE can the GERMAN DeLorean Owners help out here for the benefit of all those who would like original DeLorean gas struts.
Best wishes Stian Birkeland NORWAY
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 10:03:54 -0400 From: Mike Substelny <msubstel(AT)lorainccc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4148FEAAD879D311AC5700A0C969E890168135(AT)orsmsx35.jf.intel.com> <38131BC9.1B1FEA4F(AT)dnrc.bell-labs.com> <003c01bf1ea1$597263a0$66e0aec7(AT)gandalf> Subject: [DML] Re: One More Concours Comment Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Michael Babb wrote: > I thought that a Concours competition was supposed
> to be not for "original" cars. But should highlight the > way the cars "should" have come from the factory. > In our case, I would think a stronger alternator, etc > would be a good thing.
I agree that a stronger alternator would be a good thing (although my VIN 1280 has gotten over 60k miles of good performance from the original Ducey alternator). But remember that it is possible to set the original alternator aside and reinstall it for competition. The same goes for parts that were downright defective, like the fan-fail realy.
Imagine two beautiful DeLoreans competing side-by side. The only difference is that the first owner has preserved the blue fan-fail relay in perfect condition, then gone to the extra work of removing his bypass (or Fanzilla) and snapping the original relay back into place. The second owner tossed the blue relay in the trash in 1981. The judges have to give credit to the first owner for going the extra mile. With some items, like the braided clutch line, it may be alright to simply keep the original line for display during competition. If two competitors both show up with braided clutch lines, but one has kept the original polymer line stored in a box while the other tossed it in the trash, it would be unfair to award them the same points. The owner who made the greater effort and kept the original part should get credit.
As a Concours judge I must add that a competitor who went to the extra trouble of putting the original polymer clutch line back into his DeLorean just for competition would sure impress the Hell out of me!
It's fun to make jokes about the air in the tires and the gas in the tank, but consider this: yesterday DMC Joe's son flushed all the green coolant from my DeLorean and replaced it with the new high-tech orange coolant. The orange stuff is much better at preserving aluminum engines and radiators, but it was not available in 1981.
If I were to judge my own car as it is, I would deduct a point because it does not have old fashioned green coolant. If I were to compete in a Concours today I would drain the high-tech orange coolant and replace it with the green stuff for judging, then tomorrow I would put the orange coolant back in my system.
- Mike Substelny
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: magriese(AT)us.ibm.com Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 08:10:45 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Concours, etc. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Bloomington Gold is perhaps the wrong comparison to make. Bloomington rewards as close to exact delivery state as is possible with appropriate attention to detail. This means that if the assembly process leads to overspray on the hood hinges, you must have overspray on the hood hinges. You can clean off glue strings, etc. You must reproduce inspection marks, paint daubs on springs, prop shafts, and any other suspension components that had them. All accessories must have date codes that are reasonable for the assembly date for the car - if the build date was March 5, none of you accessories could have date codes after February 19th or so because of delivery times, inventory, etc. Serial numbers are important because of changes introduced during the build process.
A concours like Pebble Beach is primarily interested in presentation and historical significance. A Bloomington Gold car would not fare well against a car that has been "overrestored" for an event like Pebble.
Mike Griese Storage Software Development Manager IBM Storage Systems Division Rochester, MN 55901 Internet: magriese(AT)us.ibm.com voice: (507)253-1853 fax: (507)253-2880
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ In-Reply-To: <003c01bf1ea1$597263a0$66e0aec7(AT)gandalf> References: <4148FEAAD879D311AC5700A0C969E890168135(AT)orsmsx35.jf.intel.com> <38131BC9.1B1FEA4F(AT)dnrc.bell-labs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 09:48:30 -0500 From: James Espey <james(AT)usadmc.com> Subject: [DML] Re: One More Concours Comment Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
At 11:28 PM -0500 10/24/99, Michael Babb wrote: > Sorry, After all the discussion I couldn't help but add this: I >thought that a Concours competition was supposed to be not for "original" >cars. But should highlight the way the cars "should" have come from the >factory. In our case, I would think a stronger alternator, etc would be >a good thing Michael >
As I think I mentioned earlier, we set up the DeLorean concours to highlight cars as the factory intended. This means on a "perfect" workday (no hungover workers) using all "perfect" components.
James Espey DeLorean Motor Company Houston, Texas
281/568-9573 800/USA-DMC1 http://www.usadmc.com
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 08:14:27 -0700 From: Lee <Lee(AT)radiance.com> In-Reply-To: <0.481d6469.25447322(AT)aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Overheating? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
At 10:35 AM 10/24/99 EDT, you wrote: >Is my car overheating??? >Quite often when I crank the car, the cooling fans up front come right on. They whirl for a bit then stop, then eventually start again. Recently I was having my car tested for emissions and it had to idle for about 10 to 15 minutes. The fans came on again and this time coolant from the overflow bottle hit the ground. The temperature gauge shows no sign of overheating. It never even touches the 220 mark. This always happens while my car is idling. The car is in Nevada, but the temperature is very cool now so I'd like to dismiss hot weather as a factor. > >If you have any suggestions or comments or thoughts on the subject, please email me at 'VegasDMC(AT)aol.com" rather than reply to the moderator. > reply:
Hi Foot rest,
Well having had every coolant problem in the book I think I might have some insight that could be of help.
1. If your temp gauge is accurate and it never gets to 220 then your D is not over heating. 2. Assuming this to be true, if your fans are coming on at strange times then the cut in sensor is not working right. You might think about replacing it. 3. the only thing that results in coolant on the ground is: a, over full expansion taken or a week filler cap spring. The expansion tank should never be more than 1/3 full when cold. The final and most likely general problem you might have is air in the coolant system. This can be cleared up by proper burping of the system and or an auto air purging system, which is out lined in a DMC world magazine. I think one of the DML list members also sells a kit for this as well. You might also check with the NCDMC in California, one of their members has crested a number of kits for it's members.
Lee
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 08:32:35 -0700 From: Lee <Lee(AT)radiance.com> In-Reply-To: <38131BC9.1B1FEA4F(AT)dnrc.bell-labs.com> References: <4148FEAAD879D311AC5700A0C969E890168135(AT)orsmsx35.jf.intel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Regarding the concourse thread and common misconceptions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
At 10:46 AM 10/24/99 -0400, you wrote: >My point was that in the context of a De Lorean concours competition, a >car is considered "better" if it is more original. This is a concept >that I (and I think others) disagree with. > >It discourages the community from developing modifications to the De >Lorean. As a owner always looking for improvements, this is a situation >I am not happy about. > >"Grimsrud, Knut S" wrote: [Snip......... .....snip] reply:
I have to disagree in part with this view on the one hand and agree on the other.
If a DeLorean Concourse Competition is to be taken seriously and have any meaning at all it must be based on an accepted standard that encompass show categories. Otherwise the whole approach is no better than amateurish self interest on the part of a few.
The DeLorean Concourse Competition (DCC) must take into account at least the general car shoe categories. It's simply unfair to ask owners of driven D's to compete with trailered pampered non driven counter parts.
I was the victim of the lack of judging standards in a show, which I resented quite a bit. I would be the first to admit that my D is by no means a classic show item. Although 99% original it does have the after market stainless braided hydraulic lines, Oil filter and battery, Generator and it is Zillazized (spl). So not taking first or even second against D's like Ken M. is quite understandable, but when you lose to a D with Auto mart tail lights covered with Plexiglass and other shade tree improvements, as I did, well I will never enter my car in a show again.
There are as a practical matter a number of general types of D's today and it seams to me that any legitimate DCC must abominate this real world fact if it is to be supported. I have had a look at the latest Judging standards and I think that it should be expanded to cover the 4 basic D's found to day.
Well thats my opinion any way.
Lee
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 11:48:44 -0700 From: "Jesse D. Sightler" <jsight(AT)mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <199910190229.UAA10193(AT)cmn.net> <008a01bf1ea7$736a9600$66e0aec7(AT)gandalf> Subject: [DML] Re: Stainless Steel Illusion Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Thanks to Rad Dad! Using www.bibliofind.com I found several coppies of Stainless Steel Illusion. I found a copy in Pensylvania for $250 (more than I would > typically pay, but....) the book is in excellent condition inside and out (including the dust jacket). > > Check this site out (if anyone has other "used book search sites" please let the rest of us know) it may well be worth your while. Much better than $500+ from > Amazon
Definately try out http://www.bookfinder.com/
They are quite solid and capable, and the last I checked found several copies of SSI for about $200-250.
-- --------------- Jesse D. Sightler http://www.biddin.com/delorean/ VIN# 5220
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 11:19:20 -0700 From: raddad(AT)cmn.net (Dick Ryan) Subject: [DML] Concours Thread Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Concours judging and standards obviously elicit some very stong points of view and widely different opionions as to how these events should be run. However, I believe we have heard just about every point and counterpoint we need to hear, at least for the time being. Therefore, I have closed this thread.
Thanks to all for your input.
Dick Ryan Moderator of the Week
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 17:29:06 -0400 From: saintern <saintern(AT)peri.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] New Delorean Site Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I've made a new Delorean site that is geared more towards the younger people on the list (especially all the teenagers like me) I just quickly put it together now but it will get a lot better. Hopefully it will answer alot of the questions like "Is the Delorean a good car for a teenager to buy" ect , as it will cronicle my experience with my car as I get it ready for driving in the next couple months. Hopefully it will give maybe a little insight on what it's like to own one at a young age(I'm 18). Plus there's a little movie you can check out that will play on any windows computer of the car.
well , check it out: http://www.geocities.com/dkazmark/
ps- all you teenager lurkers on the list , e-mail what you think would be a good idea for the page as it's realy for all you who want to know if you yourself can pull off owning a Delorean.
_Thanks, Don Kazmark
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Murray Fisher" <murrayf(AT)hscis.net> References: <199910190229.UAA10193(AT)cmn.net> <008a01bf1ea7$736a9600$66e0aec7(AT)gandalf> <3814A60C.2CBDC4E1(AT)mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:32:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Stainless Steel Illusion Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Just a couple thoughts on getting hold of a Stainless Steel Illusion book. I wanted to see and read it badly and our little local library did not have it, but did they DID put in a request and got it for me from another smallish town library. I saw it looked like it had never been opened and as it was quite old wrote the library to see if they might sell it, as they DO sell books from time to time. I was able to purchase it for a SONG. I forget exactly how much, but it was under $50.00 !! This was about three years ago and they may have been apprised of the actually value by now!
Another person who shall remain nameless for obvious reasons......A friend but not in this state.....got a copy from a library and promptly photocopied every page....he said he used 99 brightness paper and of course in color on both sides of the sheet. I tried one myself for kicks...I have a top brand printer and it came out as good as the original. I am NOT soliciting business...that would not be legal of course and also would take a lot of time and paper. He put it in a looseleaf notebook.
FWIW Dept
Murray Vin: 05962 Lic: DMC-XII Washington State
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: NJP548(AT)aol.com Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:14:41 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Missing Descriptions on wiring diagram Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hey List,
I just got a quick question that has been bothering me for a while. I purchased the large wiring diagram from the DOA and for some reason on the paper that is the Legend to the wiring diagram, it shows 3 parts of the system that does have a description. The #'s are 42,43, and 190. And they also don't show where they are located on the wiring diagram. Would anyone per chance know what the names to these three items are called and where exactly they are located?
Thanks Nick VIN#1852...maybe closing on sale soon...speak up or forever hold your peace if u want to purchase.
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Just a got a box of more factory paperwork from the warehouse in Columbus today. One of the first little bits to catch my eye is the QAC Checklist for VIN 2841. Twelve (12) pages of criteria to be checked before the car can be shipped to the dealer.
It's far too lengthy to list it all here, from the range of items is pretty broad. For example:
Page 11 - Place extra keys and owners manual in glovebox.
Page 11 - Remove and Replace door pull straps with upgraded straps (place D ring to the the inside).
Page 11 - Record Spare Tire Serial Number.
(If I ever run across the list of these numbers, the concours rules WILL change - HA!)
Page 10 - Paint Door Striker Pins
Page 9 - Install pad to cover hole at rear of gas tank.
Page 5 - One entire page on just the fueltank baffle checklist procedure.
This list is really amazing when you think that almost ALL the 8500+ cars produced went through this. Incidentally, the work start on this car on Oct 9, 1981, and finished on Oct 13, 1981. I dont know if there was a weekend in there or not, but that's still a lot of time to spend on a car.
Andrew talked about labels on his windshield, and this sheet mentions a red dot to show the mechanical portion was completed.
Interesting reading...
James Espey DeLorean Motor Company Houston, Texas
281/568-9573 800/USA-DMC1 http://www.usadmc.com
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 10:15:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Carson Clark <cnsandog(AT)yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Stainless Steel Illusion Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
First post to the group,
I just recently purchased my DMC from the original owner, did I understand you correctly: that book Stainless Steel illusion sells for hundreds of dollars?
Thanks,
C
--- "Jesse D. Sightler" <jsight(AT)mindspring.com> wrote: > > Thanks to Rad Dad! Using www.bibliofind.com I found several > coppies of Stainless Steel Illusion. I found a copy in Pensylvania > for $250 (more than I would > > typically pay, but....) the book is in excellent condition inside > and out (including the dust jacket). > > > > Check this site out (if anyone has other "used book search sites" > please let the rest of us know) it may well be worth your while. > Much better than $500+ from > > Amazon > > Definately try out http://www.bookfinder.com/ > > They are quite solid and capable, and the last I checked found > several > copies of SSI for about $200-250. > > > -- > --------------- > Jesse D. Sightler > http://www.biddin.com/delorean/ > VIN# 5220 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: > www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator(AT)dmcnews.com > > >
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Jason Jones" <jhall(AT)bnin.net> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:11:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Win a DeLorean Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
How many has anyone got sofar. Does anyone know who is in first place right now? -----Original Message----- From: rdh(AT)hozt.com <rdh(AT)hozt.com> To: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com <dmcnews(AT)egroups.com> Date: Sunday, October 24, 1999 11:09 PM Subject: [DML] Win a DeLorean
>AutoTrader.com and Reel.com have a free drawing that includes a 1981 >DeLorean as the Grand prize. > >PRIZES: One (1) Grand Prize Winner and two (2) First Prize Winners >will be selected in a random drawing from among all eligible entries to >be held on or about November 29, 1999. Grand Prize: One (1) Grand >Prize Winner will receive a 1981 DeLorean automobile (approximate >retail value $ 15,000). First Prizes: Two (2) First Prize Winners >will each receive a Digital Video Disc player and thirty-five (35) DVD >movies relating to the "Wheels and Reels" theme (approximate retail >value $ 1,275). > >Check it out at: > >http://win.autotrader.com/ > >Ray Haug > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: >www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > >To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: >moderator(AT)dmcnews.com >
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: dcsj(AT)excite.com Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:54:44 PDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: LIFT-O-MAT GAS STRUTS STILL EXIST! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> 1) I have heard from several that original LIFT-O-MAT gas struts are no > longer available. THIS IS NOT TRUE! The interesting part here is whether > they produce gas struts with the right pressure for the DeLorean. > > 2) Where can you get LIFT-O-MAT gas struts? > > PLEASE can the GERMAN DeLorean Owners help out here for the benefit of all
> those who would like original DeLorean gas struts. > > Best wishes > Stian Birkeland > NORWAY > > > ______________________________________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: > www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator(AT)dmcnews.com > >
Hi Stan
Yes ,the LIFT-O-MAT struts are still availiably as new manufactured units. I saw all 6 struts at the St louis expo . Don Steger of Delorean Motor Center in California sells the NEW units.
Basicly the same price as all the other vendors. Btw: the manufacturer is Stabilus, Its in small print on the side of the strut housing
Don told me he is also trying to get the manufacturer to make a set of door struts that dampen the last 25% of the opening stroke, to help ease the strain from the more abrupt opening shock,
Hope this helps, Dennis VIn 5180
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Michael Babb" <michael.babb(AT)mindspring.com> References: <v01540b04b43a4e6d7a88(AT)[206.168.145.194]> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:05:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Guess The Mystery Part; Win a DeLorean....brochure Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001C_01BF1F13.83F870C0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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Funny that you said this today James. I have just had my DeLorean in for= some work, and the mechanic found something kind of interesting in the car= . Check out the link below, and I will send whoever comes closest to guess= ing what it is, and where it was in the car a DeLorean brochure. Guess my = car was not built on a "perfect day" If you have any ideas as to what/whe= re, send me an e-mail at michael(AT)babbtechnology.com. The closest guess to = be received by midnight this Friday, will be sent an 8 1/2 by 11 DeLorean t= rifild brochure as an award! .....then I will post more information, as wel= l as something else interesting I now have.
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Good Luck, and keep the dream alive!
Michael C. Babb VIN 3472
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1981 20:25:24 -0800 From: "Jesse D. Sightler" <jsight(AT)mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <l03130306b43a836e6a47(AT)[192.0.0.100]> Subject: [DML] Re: Functions of the QAC's Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
James Espey wrote: <snip> >Incidentally, the work start on this car on Oct > 9, 1981, and finished on Oct 13, 1981. I dont know if there was a weekend > in there or not, but that's still a lot of time to spend on a car. <snip>
That would be Friday thru Tuesday, so there is a weekend in there. It's still along time for a pre-delivery quality checkup, though. :)
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: BondAtomic(AT)aol.com Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 21:23:46 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: LIFT-O-MAT GAS STRUTS STILL EXIST! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Of course the LIFT-O-MATs are still being produced! I work on a farm my father owns and the tractor doors (the most recent models) use LIFT-O-MAT to open them. Pretty much every brand uses them, including John Deere, Case International, etc... All you do is open the latch, and give it a little push, and the LIFT-O-MAT will take it up. I suppose you could check out www.johndeere.com for it, but I would be surprised to see something about it.
John Feldman
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 02:11:14 +0200 From: Michael Reinemuth <micha(AT)delorean.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <19991025134554.48320.qmail(AT)hotmail.com> Subject: [DML] re: LIFT-O-MAT STILL EXIST and European Parts Warehouse Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Stian Birkeland writes:
> My point is: > 1) I have heard from several that original LIFT-O-MAT gas struts are no > longer available. THIS IS NOT TRUE! The interesting part here is whether > they produce gas struts with the right pressure for the DeLorean. > > 2) Where can you get LIFT-O-MAT gas struts? > > PLEASE can the GERMAN DeLorean Owners help out here for the benefit of all > those who would like original DeLorean gas struts. > > Best wishes > Stian Birkeland > NORWAY
Please no speculations like this!
Sure LIFT-O-MAT is still in business! The company is located in Koblenz/Germany and there business are gas struts. They produce hundreds of different types for cars, printers, furniture and so on. I visited them some years ago. They told me the struts originally used on the DeLorean were produced for DMC only and the production went out as the Dunmurry plant shut down.
But if you are looking for gaststruts for your Dī here in europe, you can order them from the DeLorean Club of Germany. You had to pay 90 EURO ($96) for the door struts and 100 EURO ($112) for the Hood/Louvere struts.
The DeLorean Club of Germany owns the biggest parts inventory here in europe. There are a thousand DeLorean parts in her Warehouse including some really rare items. If you are looking for factory original left front fenders(!), doors, quarter panels, frames(!), fiberglass bodies, fuel sending units, metric instrument clusters, transmissions, lower link, setīs of upgraded brake discs (incl. crossdrilled), upgraded callipers and many many more (to name only a small amount of items) they had all of them on stock.
In the spring issue of "stainless" (German Dīmag) will be a complete article about the club and itīs warehouse including photos, so you can have a look for youself.
If you are interested in "european" parts please email to deloreanstore(AT)delorean.de or contact Adrian Roth directly at adriandmc(AT)aol.com
If you had any further questions please email adrian or me directly.
Best wishes
Michael Reinemuth ------------------------------------------------------- eMail: micha(AT)delorean.de - Heidelberg, Germany http://www.delorean.de - DeLorean Site Deutschland -------------------------------------------------------
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: dcsj(AT)excite.com Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:43:59 PDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: re: transmission problems! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 17:38:48 -0500, Dave Swingle wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Oct 1999, Sean Spurlock wrote: > > This is a very peculiar problem. A friends DeLorean will not shift > > into first unless the shifter is brought down into second and then > > slammed back into first. Thsi is all accompanied by a slight grinding > WTW wrote: > ...But I have heard that you're not supposed to change > the transmission oil on the DeLorean. > > I'm not sure why this would be. I would change the oil. Regarding the > original problem I'd guess bad syncros as well, usually caused by leaving > the original plastic clutch line in the car too long. Bad part is, at least > in my case, was that the syncronizers (the brass part) were fine but the > sliding gear (the expensive part) was bad.
This is the exact same problem that I had. The fix was challanging but and quite time consuming but the end result was perfection with smooth shifting.
I had to open the transmission anyway because of the sheared second gear rollpin syndrome ,so I decided to replace the first gear syncromesh ring . Yes. the sliding gear was damaged from the effects of grinding gears, but after I priced out a new one through a renault dealer in england (AT) over $600.00 , I grit my teeth and decided to reuse the old one. I replaced the rollpin with a doubled rollpin as recommended by Steve Wynne. Since I had the trans out I also replaced the rear main crankshaft seal my old seal had actually been turning in its housing and was leaking . while I was at it I replaced the clutch with a new centerforce unit. ( btw: the centerforce clutch is nothing more than a oem velao unit with fly weights added to the diaphragm spring fingers) a new throwout bearing and pilot bearing I lubricated the clutch fork with a 50/50 mix of anti-seize compound and grease ( a tip from Rob Grady) I also replaced the slave cylinder and the clutch line. The net result was shifting perfection . As a note I do plan too replace the clutch master cylinder this winter because it does show signs of weeping.
Hope You don't get to discouraged by all this, but if you want the car too shift right, there really isn,t a cheap quick fix for the long run. I n some cases just replacing the clutch line may work but just remember how much gear damaged has probably occured for quite some time because of neglect in fixing it as soon as it developed. btw; I baught my car with 31K mi. and it still had the old clutch line . As a side note when I examined my old clutch disc I found a year of mfg date stamped in it 1988 which tells me that the clutch had been replaced before probably due to the premature wear caused by the old clutch line that they didn't replace.
Dennis Vin 5180
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: DMC83in99(AT)aol.com Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 22:03:44 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] More problems with 16738 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Ok, it's time for my weekly batch of questions. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
#1-It's running very rich. I haven't had it hooked up to a diagnostic machine (most people I've talked to wanted to run and hide from it) but I can tell by the smell of the exhaust. I've recently replaced the cold start valve, thermo time switch, and the warm up regulator because of a horrid cold start problem. How can I tell how far out of adjustment it is, and how can I fix it?
#2.-Torsion bar is out of adjustment. yes, I know it's a two man job and I know the possible consequences, but how do I readjust it?
That's all I can come up with for the time being. Any help would make that person my hero for the week!!
Scott #16738
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: dcsj(AT)excite.com Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 21:03:27 PDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Yellow "D" and mysterious fuel problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 19:26:35 PDT, dcsj(AT)excite.com wrote:
> George > This unfortunatly sounds like fuel system contamination which can only be > cured by cleaning every component that has fuel in it. Don Steger of > Delorean motor center in Cal. Just gave a very nice seminar on this subject > at the doa expo in St louis If you give him a call he has a set of > instructions on how he cleans a system I am sure he would fax them to you > and asist you over the phone. He uses a product called Berrimans B-12 > CHEM-TOOL I just happened to find it at my local Wal-Mart in fuel additives > section $2.50 per can he recommendeds using 3 cans. Caution DO NOT push down > on the fuel regulator arm as it can drive the regulating piston up into the > housing making it almost impossible to remove for cleaning and could cost > you nearly $1000.00 to replace the regulator unit. > > Dennis Vin 5180
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 21:36:32 -0700 (PDT) From: James Espey <jv_espey(AT)yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] DeLorean in Year 2000 Calendar Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I have just received confirmation that my 1982 DeLorean will be featured as one of 12 cars in the CSK Auto 2000 Calendar. The photo shoot for the calendar was one of the last things I did before I moved from Phoenix to Houston this past June
CSK stands for Checker-Schucks-Kragen, an auto parts chain that has stores all across the country. They print one million (!) of these calendars every year featuring vehicles that belong to their customers and employees.
The calendar is a fund-raiser for the Boys and Girls Clubs, and the calendars cost just $1.00! They are usually filled with coupons for various deals at their stores.
I have been told that the calendars will be in stores the third week of November - keep your eyes peeled!
James Espey
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 04:24:23 -0400 From: "J.D. Robbins" <jrobbins(AT)brit.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] door lift pistons Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Let me tell you a tale of woe. In recent months, my doors have been rather saggy on my DMC. Being a novice at repairing my Delorean, I took note from many experts who have said "do not try to adjust your torsion bars yourself".
So instead, I decided I would replace my door lift pistons, as everyone recommends this procedure first.
Taking the pins out of the pistons is all too easy... but let me tell you, snapping the pistons out from their nipples takes a bit of force.
I certainly found out the hard way exactly how freakin' heavy those doors really are. I'm not a small guy, and I near crushed my head in when I was standing under the door at the moment I pulled out a piston.
Anyways, I thought I'd share with the group that although the pistons look like the keep the door from going up too fast, they actually do the exact opposite :>
Anyone: how much does that door weigh minus a lift piston?
J -- J.D. Robbins Project Lead, BRIT Inc. http://www.brit.ca BBCanada Inc. http://www.bbcanada.com - Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today -
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 04:31:07 -0400 From: "J.D. Robbins" <jrobbins(AT)brit.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] PJ Grady Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Does anyone have info on PJ Grady's Lockzilla product? My door lock control module fires at random sometimes, which is probably going to end up in a costly repair if I don't act soon.
I have 'fanzilla' and love it; can't believe I didn't buy one sooner. I've heard a rumour that Lockzilla will soon have a door opening actuator and a remote control?
I took it upon myself to install door opening actuators (I bought heavy duty ones that have 75 lbs of pulling force) and they work great. It is hooked up to my 4 button remote control on my alarm. Doors can pop independently or together.
Comments on Lockzilla?, and the rumour about door actuators? Certainly if there is a door opening module, I highly recommend you run out and get one. The 'cool' factor of being able to open your doors independently and from 20 feet away certain warrants the cost. One of my favourite features of door openers is that I can open my passenger's door for someone getting in or trying to get out (how many times have you had a passenger not know how to get out?) from inside the car, while in the driver's seat. Tres cool.
Anyways, Lockzilla comments?
Thanks Brother Delorean Owners.
J -- J.D. Robbins Project Lead, BRIT Inc. http://www.brit.ca BBCanada Inc. http://www.bbcanada.com - Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today -
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