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4111. Sean Mullally             Re: dent removal
4112. mdeluca(AT)comtechpst.com    Re: Door Key Blank
4113. delorean502(AT)excite.com    Re: Door Key Blank
4114. saintern                  adhesive?
4115. saintern                  rear louver restoration
4116. LovDMC12(AT)aol.com          Re: adhesive?
4117. Phil                      Re: The DeLorean's Gullwing doors
4118. CatfishEd(AT)aol.com         Re: rear louver restoration
4119. DMC Joe                   Re: Starting problem at in-between temps
4120. CBL302(AT)aol.com            Re: The DeLorean's Gullwing doors
4121. DMC3309(AT)aol.com           Re: adhesive?
4122. Stian Birkeland           DeLorean in BBC's "Watchdog" programme
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4124. Comet42483(AT)aol.com        Re: The DeLorean's Gullwing doors
4125. Ann & Ed Thompson         Re: The DeLorean's Gullwing doors
4126. Lee                       Re: Door Key Blank
4127. Deloreanernst(AT)aol.com     Re: rear louver restoration
4128. Kevin Rawlings            Re: The DeLorean's Gullwing doors
4129. WINGD2(AT)aol.com            Re: The DeLorean's Gullwing doors
4130. Carson Clark              Motor Idle question
4131. Martin Gutkowski          Re: DMC (Houston) in England Nov 6-7
4132. raddad(AT)cmn.net            Gullwings
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4135. DMC83in99(AT)aol.com         Re: rear louver restoration
4136. DMC Joe                   Re: Motor Idle question
4137. efren hicks               Re: The DeLorean's Gullwing doors
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From: "Sean Mullally" <sean333(AT)email.com>
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Depending on where the dent is, and if you can't find anyone else to do it.
Maybe it would be possible to remove that body panel and ship it either DMC
or Grady. Just a thought.

-Sean Mullally

>I know the "big boys" like DMC houston and Grady remove small dents on
>deloreans, but I don't live near either.  I've been looking around and
>can't find anybody, so I thought I would turn to the list.  Has anybody
>in Michigan ever had small dings taken out of their delorean by someone
>located in michigan?  and if so, where?  thanks a lot for you help.

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the Ilco x9 is the std blank as I understand it but my lock smith found
that an X55 blank (mfg unknown) was a closer match.
 

Mike D.
Vin 3113
NY Lic DLORIANN

delorean3-(AT)aol.com wrote: 
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> I was able to get my ignition key copied with no problem at my local 
> locksmith's today.  I have a two key system on my DeLorean.  However
they 
> werent able to find a key blank for my door key which is the factory
lighted 
> key.  Does anyone have a key blank code for this?
> 
> Gary

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The key blank that I use for both door and ignition is made by COLE #
VL5.  

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Does anyone know what adhesive is used to bond together the
weatherstripping on the D. The black strips that are on the sides of my
hood are always coming loose and I want to get something to make them
stick.
-Don

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Does anyone know of a page or other source outlining the procedure of
restoring the rear louvers on the D. Mine are faded from age and I'd
like to get it back in shape.
Thanks,
Don

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Don,

I had the same problem.  I used 3M Plastic and emblem adhesive.  It works 
pretty well.

Brian
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The 300SL stands for Super Light, Not Sport Light.

-Phil
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> > As many of you know, the DeLorean wasn't the only car to have gullwing
doors.
> > I have seen a lot of e-mails saying it was, but it wasn't.
>
> Who are these people John?  I would like to help set them straight.
>
> > Mercedes-Benz 300 SL Gullwing also has gullwing doors, as specified in
the
> > name. There is a 1956, 1957 and I think more
>
> The original Mercedes gullwing coupe (introduced March 1952) was not
designated
> "300SL Gullwing".  It was simply the "Mercedes-Benz 300SL Coupe" the "SL"
meaning
> Sport-Light.  Of course it did have gullwing doors and was to become
affectionately
> know as "The Gullwing Coupe" by automobile enthusiasts.  Later the
Mercedes C111
> with gullwing doors was developed primarily for speed and endurance
trials.
>
> In the early seventies, under the watchful eye of JZD (as General Manager
at
> Chevrolet), the Corvette group designed and built a gullwing Corvette
coupe that was
> supposed to be powered by the 4-rotor Wankle.  It never made it into
production but
> was no doubt the single most influential project that led JZD to
incorporating
> gullwing doors into the design of the DMC-12.  The Corvette doors were
remarkably
> similar to those on the DMC-12, except the lower half of the door had a
second hinge.
> (BTW, JZD unsuccessfully tried to buy the Wankle from GM for the DMC-12.)
>
> Later the Bricklin SV-1 gullwing coupe was introduced.  The Bricklin went
into
> production in 1974, the same year JZD formed the De Lorean Motor Company.
>
> Incidentally, the fact that the DMC-12 design was remarkably similar to
the Lotus
> Esprit was no accident.  Lotus had no small part in bringing the DMC-12 to
fruition,
> but the Esprit did not have gullwing doors.
>
> Regards,
> Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982)
> Midlothian, VA
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I used a compound or liquid called Back to Black and it worked beautifully

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This is another one of those items who's failure rate is directly related
to age & use. We have changed very few units the second time around. Most
failures are in cars that sit for long periods of time.  Because failure of
this item is just an inconvenience I don't believe it needs to be replaced
until it fails. On the other hand if its an original it is 18 years old, so
replacement would be a wise choice.

DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>
Web Site:  <http://www.deloreanservices.com>

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> From: Kemp, Nick (MN10) <nick.kemp(AT)HBC.honeywell.com>
> 
> Joe,
> 
> Does the replacement fuel accumulator have a lower failure rate?  Should
> this be a standard upgrade item?
> 
> Nick Kemp
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In a message dated 10/29/99 9:01:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
BondAtomic(AT)aol.com writes:

<<  have seen a lot of e-mails saying it was, but it wasn't. For example, the 
 Mercedes-Benz 300 SL Gullwing also has gullwing doors, as specified in the 
 name. There is a 1956, 1957 and I think more of the year >>
Don't forget the 1974-1976 Bricklins were the first gullwings made by a 
American
for the American market.

Claude
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Use 3m super weatherstrip adheasive.   You wont find nothing better

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From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway(AT)hotmail.com>
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Hello all!
Go and take a look at the video. It's really great!
This reporter makes the DeLorean look real good (in comparison to the 
Quentin Willson's comments). Notice the (unknown) reporter's use of 
well-spoken language. He creates a suspense, some pauses along with the 
panning of the camera and suddenly the DeLorean is there! Imagine what this 
will do to the DeLorean enthusiasts out there. The DeLorean was 
well-presented as the "time-machine"...or as the reporter put it "...days of 
week don't matter with this car - it's a DeLorean!

Enthusiastic speech!
Then we get a glimpse of Simon Lees-Milne's DeLorean from the inside with 
Simon dressed up as the Doc. From what I can see, the timepad is actually a 
calculator (!) and the digital display that suddenly pops out inside the 
glovebox is a computer-generated image (thanks Martin Gutkowski) 
superimposed on the back of what seems to be the black pouch of the original 
DeLorean manual. What is interesting, however, is the "dummy switch" nearest 
the driver on the centerconsole. It has a red switch in the middle, and 
according to Martin Gutkowski this is the ONLY FACTORY INSTALLED SWITCH FOR 
FOGLIGHTS ON THE DELOREAN!

Ah, finally a DeLorean movie that creates excitement for our fine 
automobile. Great free advertising those few seconds it lasted.

Best wishes
Stian Birkeland
NORWAY

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>Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 21:26:43 +0100
>
>Dear All,
>
>The DOC site Download Page now includes a new 3-page article with some
>excellent photographs, scanned in from "Popular Classics" magazine,
>Sept. 1993 (thanks Tris). There's also a new video capture of Simon's
>DeLorean from BBCTV's Watchdog program, screened last week.
>
>Best Wishes,
>
>Martin
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It depends on the year of your car
the Illco X29 is the best fit for later cars and the WB2 blank is for earlier 
cars although it has to be shortened by 4mm

Ken

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JZD liked the doors on his Mercedes so much he demanded that his car have 
them, besides the difficulties faced in mounting and sealing the doors.

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> Phil wrote:
> 
> The 300SL stands for Super Light, Not Sport Light.

You are quite correct Phil.  I was quoting a passage from "De Lorean Stainless 
Steel Illusion" which is obviously incorrect.  A whack on John Lamm's knuckles
for that!  After further research I discovered that the SL designation does indeed
stand for "Super Leicht" or "Super Light".

The term "Gullwing" was not an official designation, but rather a nickname.  Research
reveals that there were only 1400 300SL gullwing coupes produced from 1953 to 1957.  
That's an average production of less than 300 units per model year.  In 1957 the 
gullwing coupes were discontinued in favor of the 300SL Roadster, of which 1858 were
built for model years 1957 to 1963.

As an aside, the sills on the 300SL coupe's gullwing doors were quite high and
rather cumbersome to negotiate.  Unlike the DeLorean sills, they were only about 
10 or 12 inches below the bottom of the window.  With the introduction of the Roaster
in 1957 the gullwing doors disappeared, never again to return to a production Mercedes.

Regards,
Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982)
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At 10:25 PM 10/28/99 EDT, you wrote:
>I was able to get my ignition key copied with no problem at my local 
>locksmith's today.  I have a two key system on my DeLorean.  However they 
>werent able to find a key blank for my door key which is the factory lighted 
>key.  Does anyone have a key blank code for this?
>
>Gary
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reply:

Here is the information you need!

DeLorean Key blank numbers

IGN Key: ilco  X170 NE48
Door key: ilco  WB3 X169

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Would "Back to Black" also work on the black "shoulders" on either side of 
the louver, visible from the side through the rear window?  - Wayne

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Dear Ed,

Although Lotus did have a big part in the design of the DMC-12, this has no 
connection to how the DeLorean looks like the Esprit.  The reason is that 
John DeLorean went to Mr. Guigiaro (ItalDesign) to style his car, 
incidentally, this is the same company that did (does?) all the design work 
for Lotus.  If you look at other cars styled by Guigiaro, they all look very 
much the same as the DeLorean and Esprit.

Just thought I'd let you know,
Kevin

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>Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 09:53:54 -0400
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> > As many of you know, the DeLorean wasn't the only car to have gullwing 
>doors.
> > I have seen a lot of e-mails saying it was, but it wasn't.
>
>Who are these people John?  I would like to help set them straight.
>
> > Mercedes-Benz 300 SL Gullwing also has gullwing doors, as specified in 
>the
> > name. There is a 1956, 1957 and I think more
>
>The original Mercedes gullwing coupe (introduced March 1952) was not 
>designated
>"300SL Gullwing".  It was simply the "Mercedes-Benz 300SL Coupe" the "SL" 
>meaning
>Sport-Light.  Of course it did have gullwing doors and was to become 
>affectionately
>know as "The Gullwing Coupe" by automobile enthusiasts.  Later the Mercedes 
>C111
>with gullwing doors was developed primarily for speed and endurance trials.
>
>In the early seventies, under the watchful eye of JZD (as General Manager 
>at
>Chevrolet), the Corvette group designed and built a gullwing Corvette coupe 
>that was
>supposed to be powered by the 4-rotor Wankle.  It never made it into 
>production but
>was no doubt the single most influential project that led JZD to 
>incorporating
>gullwing doors into the design of the DMC-12.  The Corvette doors were 
>remarkably
>similar to those on the DMC-12, except the lower half of the door had a 
>second hinge.
>(BTW, JZD unsuccessfully tried to buy the Wankle from GM for the DMC-12.)
>
>Later the Bricklin SV-1 gullwing coupe was introduced.  The Bricklin went 
>into
>production in 1974, the same year JZD formed the De Lorean Motor Company.
>
>Incidentally, the fact that the DMC-12 design was remarkably similar to the 
>Lotus
>Esprit was no accident.  Lotus had no small part in bringing the DMC-12 to 
>fruition,
>but the Esprit did not have gullwing doors.
>
>Regards,
>Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982)
>Midlothian, VA

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In a message dated 10/29/99 8:01:29 AM Central Daylight Time, 
BondAtomic(AT)aol.com writes:

<< Who knows, maybe John got his idea from it, but I doubt it.
  >>

If I remember correctly, John Delorean used to own a Mercedes 300 SL 
Gullwing. Matter of fact, even before he designed / developed the DMC12.

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Hi all,

I just purchased my '83 DMC two weeks ago, and have enjoyed driving it
almost everyday...it only has 36k miles on it.  It has also been
impeccably maintained thru delorean Motor Center, as I have all of the
service records.

My problem just started today:  when the car is at idle the engine
vibrates very much shaking the car. :-(  It goes away once you give it
some gas and I do not notice it.  Once the RPM's increase the vibration
goes away, it is like the timing is off or something...I am no Mr.
Goodwrench so any help would be appreciated.

Thanks alot,

C

VIN 16367

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Actually there will be more like 6, but with an underbody and chassis also on
display. There will be a "barn" display showing off one of Chris Parnham's
cars done up to look like the BTTF car by students at Derby university, and
also his newly acquired Euro-spec prototype Right-Hander with 4 MILES ON THE
CLOCK!!! It was discovered in a barn, and will be on display in the state it
was discovered (your guess is as good as mine!)

BTW, a BIG thanks to everyone who regularly visits the DOC website, as a
recognition of the hit-counter hitting 5000 yesterday, I have registered
http://www.delorean.co.uk which should be active round about the time you read
this!

Best Wishes,

Martin

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http://www.delorean.co.uk

James Espey wrote:

> The DeLorean Owenrs Club will have a spectacular display, with about 10
> cars on display.

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I think we have flapped our gullwings enough for now.  The thread is closed
except for the unlikely possibility that something really unique is posted.

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Purchase two cans of Krylon semi-flat black paint and follow the directions
on the can to restore your sun shade (louvers) to their original factory
look. This product can also be used on the vents between the door glass and
quarter panel glass and the rear license plate trim.

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> Subject: [DML] rear louver restoration
> Date: Friday, October 29, 1999 3:22 PM
> 
> Does anyone know of a page or other source outlining the procedure of
> restoring the rear louvers on the D. Mine are faded from age and I'd
> like to get it back in shape.
> Thanks,
> Don
> 
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The blank for the lighted key is an Illco WB2 but you have to shorten it by 
4mm
you can leave it longer but it doesn't sit quite right in the ignition 
although it will work.

Ken

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That's exactly what I was going to say Joe, but let me add, just in case, 
about removing the vents as it can cause some severe trauma.  Also, today, my 
whole car began shaking violently when it drives, idling is fine.  It feels 
as if it's going across and endless road of speedbumps.  Now, I know most 
people are going to say it's probalby flat spots in the tires, or possibly 
the belt separating, but I just wanted to get any other ideas before I went 
and yanked the tires off.  So, any ideas?

Thanks in advance
Scott 
#16738

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What is the RPM reading on your tach at idle ?

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Web Site:  <http://www.deloreanservices.com>

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> From: Carson Clark <cnsandog(AT)yahoo.com>
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I just purchased my '83 DMC two weeks ago, and have enjoyed driving it
> almost everyday...it only has 36k miles on it.  It has also been
> impeccably maintained thru delorean Motor Center, as I have all of the
> service records.
> 
> My problem just started today:  when the car is at idle the engine
> vibrates very much shaking the car. :-(  It goes away once you give it
> some gas and I do not notice it.  Once the RPM's increase the vibration
> goes away, it is like the timing is off or something...I am no Mr.
> Goodwrench so any help would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks alot,
> 
> C
> 
> VIN 16367

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does some one have the link to the page of mr guigiaro
i remeber seeing one that had all his cars  

efren

--- Kevin Rawlings <blast59(AT)hotmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Ed,
> 
> Although Lotus did have a big part in the design of
> the DMC-12, this has no 
> connection to how the DeLorean looks like the
> Esprit.  The reason is that 
> John DeLorean went to Mr. Guigiaro (ItalDesign) to
> style his car, 
> incidentally, this is the same company that did
> (does?) all the design work 
> for Lotus.  If you look at other cars styled by
> Guigiaro, they all look very 
> much the same as the DeLorean and Esprit.
> 
> Just thought I'd let you know,
> Kevin
> 
> 
> >From: Ann & Ed Thompson <RappaRivaRat(AT)erols.com>
> >Reply-To: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com
> >To: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com
> >Subject: [DML] Re: The DeLorean's Gullwing doors
> >Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 09:53:54 -0400
> >
> > > As many of you know, the DeLorean wasn't the
> only car to have gullwing 
> >doors.
> > > I have seen a lot of e-mails saying it was, but
> it wasn't.
> >
> >Who are these people John?  I would like to help
> set them straight.
> >
> > > Mercedes-Benz 300 SL Gullwing also has gullwing
> doors, as specified in 
> >the
> > > name. There is a 1956, 1957 and I think more
> >
> >The original Mercedes gullwing coupe (introduced
> March 1952) was not 
> >designated
> >"300SL Gullwing".  It was simply the "Mercedes-Benz
> 300SL Coupe" the "SL" 
> >meaning
> >Sport-Light.  Of course it did have gullwing doors
> and was to become 
> >affectionately
> >know as "The Gullwing Coupe" by automobile
> enthusiasts.  Later the Mercedes 
> >C111
> >with gullwing doors was developed primarily for
> speed and endurance trials.
> >
> >In the early seventies, under the watchful eye of
> JZD (as General Manager 
> >at
> >Chevrolet), the Corvette group designed and built a
> gullwing Corvette coupe 
> >that was
> >supposed to be powered by the 4-rotor Wankle.  It
> never made it into 
> >production but
> >was no doubt the single most influential project
> that led JZD to 
> >incorporating
> >gullwing doors into the design of the DMC-12.  The
> Corvette doors were 
> >remarkably
> >similar to those on the DMC-12, except the lower
> half of the door had a 
> >second hinge.
> >(BTW, JZD unsuccessfully tried to buy the Wankle
> from GM for the DMC-12.)
> >
> >Later the Bricklin SV-1 gullwing coupe was
> introduced.  The Bricklin went 
> >into
> >production in 1974, the same year JZD formed the De
> Lorean Motor Company.
> >
> >Incidentally, the fact that the DMC-12 design was
> remarkably similar to the 
> >Lotus
> >Esprit was no accident.  Lotus had no small part in
> bringing the DMC-12 to 
> >fruition,
> >but the Esprit did not have gullwing doors.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982)
> >Midlothian, VA
> 
>
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