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4138. DeLorean31(AT)aol.com        Re: dent removal
4139. Stian Birkeland           ItalDesign/Giugiaro Web Site
4140. Ann & Ed Thompson         DeLorean's design
4141. Danrc30                   My cooling fans stayed on...
4142. DeLorean31(AT)aol.com        Door Key Blank ?
4143. DMC Joe                   Re: shaking
4144. DMC83in99(AT)aol.com         Re: Door Key Blank ?
4145. Ann & Ed Thompson         Re: shaking
4146. Lee                       Re: rear louver restoration
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4148. Aldo Buono                Tires
4149. Aldo Buono                Shift Boot with Frame
4150. Deloreanernst(AT)aol.com     Re: dent removal
4151. Dave Stragand             Upper Ball Joint Cross-Reference?
4152. BRUCE BENSON              Re: Motor Idle question
4153. DMC3309(AT)aol.com           Re: Door Key Blank ?
4154. Tom Niemczewski           Auto trans needed
4155. DMC83in99(AT)aol.com         Re: rear louver restoration
4156. Carson Clark              Re: Motor Idle question
4157. dstall(AT)gvi.net            Need some insight or guidance for locating proble
4158. raddad(AT)cmn.net            Goof
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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 17:31:05 EDT
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As mentioned on the list the major parts suppliers are very adept at this and 
you can ship it to them.  I know from experience PJ Grady's will be able to 
fix such a problem.  Although they are not on the list to respond, I am sure 
he will be happy to speak to you on the telephone about it if you call their 
shop.
Gary Gore
Activities Director
DeLorean Mid Atlantic
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From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway(AT)hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 08:14:56 PDT
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Yes, the address is www.italdesign.it
or the exact address for Ital Design's DeLorean'page go to: 
www.nes.it/italdesign/dmc.htm
What is really interesting is that the DeLorean goes under the name DMC-12! 
Apparantly, when Giugiaro was commisioned to make the car, DeLorean Motor 
Company hadn't decided a model name yet. The DMC-12 was the code for the 
car. It was supposed to cost only $12,000
For some reason Italdesign name the car "DMC/12" instead of "DMC-12"
Best wishes
Stian Birkeland
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>Subject: [DML] Re: The DeLorean's Gullwing doors
>Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 22:47:31 -0700 (PDT)
>
>does some one have the link to the page of mr guigiaro
>i remeber seeing one that had all his cars
>
>efren
>
>--- Kevin Rawlings <blast59(AT)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Dear Ed,
> >
> > Although Lotus did have a big part in the design of
> > the DMC-12, this has no
> > connection to how the DeLorean looks like the
> > Esprit.  The reason is that
> > John DeLorean went to Mr. Guigiaro (ItalDesign) to
> > style his car,
> > incidentally, this is the same company that did
> > (does?) all the design work
> > for Lotus.  If you look at other cars styled by
> > Guigiaro, they all look very
> > much the same as the DeLorean and Esprit.
> >
> > Just thought I'd let you know,
> > Kevin
> >
> >
> > >From: Ann & Ed Thompson <RappaRivaRat(AT)erols.com>
> > >Reply-To: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com
> > >To: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com
> > >Subject: [DML] Re: The DeLorean's Gullwing doors
> > >Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 09:53:54 -0400
> > >
> > > > As many of you know, the DeLorean wasn't the
> > only car to have gullwing
> > >doors.
> > > > I have seen a lot of e-mails saying it was, but
> > it wasn't.
> > >
> > >Who are these people John?  I would like to help
> > set them straight.
> > >
> > > > Mercedes-Benz 300 SL Gullwing also has gullwing
> > doors, as specified in
> > >the
> > > > name. There is a 1956, 1957 and I think more
> > >
> > >The original Mercedes gullwing coupe (introduced
> > March 1952) was not
> > >designated
> > >"300SL Gullwing".  It was simply the "Mercedes-Benz
> > 300SL Coupe" the "SL"
> > >meaning
> > >Sport-Light.  Of course it did have gullwing doors
> > and was to become
> > >affectionately
> > >know as "The Gullwing Coupe" by automobile
> > enthusiasts.  Later the Mercedes
> > >C111
> > >with gullwing doors was developed primarily for
> > speed and endurance trials.
> > >
> > >In the early seventies, under the watchful eye of
> > JZD (as General Manager
> > >at
> > >Chevrolet), the Corvette group designed and built a
> > gullwing Corvette coupe
> > >that was
> > >supposed to be powered by the 4-rotor Wankle.  It
> > never made it into
> > >production but
> > >was no doubt the single most influential project
> > that led JZD to
> > >incorporating
> > >gullwing doors into the design of the DMC-12.  The
> > Corvette doors were
> > >remarkably
> > >similar to those on the DMC-12, except the lower
> > half of the door had a
> > >second hinge.
> > >(BTW, JZD unsuccessfully tried to buy the Wankle
> > from GM for the DMC-12.)
> > >
> > >Later the Bricklin SV-1 gullwing coupe was
> > introduced.  The Bricklin went
> > >into
> > >production in 1974, the same year JZD formed the De
> > Lorean Motor Company.
> > >
> > >Incidentally, the fact that the DMC-12 design was
> > remarkably similar to the
> > >Lotus
> > >Esprit was no accident.  Lotus had no small part in
> > bringing the DMC-12 to
> > >fruition,
> > >but the Esprit did not have gullwing doors.
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982)
> > >Midlothian, VA
> >
> >
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> Kevin Rawlings wrote:
> 
> Although Lotus did have a big part in the design of the DMC-12, this has no
> connection to how the DeLorean looks like the Esprit.  The reason is that
> John DeLorean went to Mr. Guigiaro (ItalDesign) to style his car,
> incidentally, this is the same company that did (does?) all the design work
> for Lotus.  If you look at other cars styled by Guigiaro, they all look very
> much the same as the DeLorean and Esprit.
> 
> Just thought I'd let you know,
Kevin, that was my point exactly.  The fact that Giorgetto Giugiaro (not
"Guigiaro") of Ital Design did design the DeLorean (1975), and the Esprit, 
et al, is precisely why it remarkably resembles the Esprit and has EVERYTHING
to do with design of the Esprit.  
FYI, Lotus had very little or nothing to do with the design of the DMC-12.  The
initial design, for all practical purposes, was completed by Giugiaro in 1975
long before Lotus got involved in 1978.  The first two DeLorean prototypes were
built by the Pocobello Triad Group (Kar Kraft), 1975-76, and Creative Industries,
1977, both of Detroit, before Lotus got involved.  Lotus was an engineering firm
that JZD hired to engineer Giugiaro's design, and Bill Collins' prototypes for
production.  Lotus was hired in 1978 only after the decision was made to locate
the production facility in Northern Ireland instead of Puerto Rico.  BTW, after
Lotus got involved they wanted to scrap the gullwing door concept (design?).
JZD said absolutely NOT.
Regards,
Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982)
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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:17:43 -0400
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Yesterday when I went to start my car, I heard a loud CLICK from the engine=
, and the cooling fans came on. The engine was completely cold. The key was=
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as coming from the alternator. It seemed like it wanted to engage even when=
 the car was off. I then started the car and shut it back off to see if the=
 alternator was just stuck or something. But nothing changed. I unplugged o=
ne of the connections to the otterstat switch, but the fans stayed on. The =
only way I could shut them off was to pull the jumper wire in the relay are=
a. So, then I decided to drive the car anyway to see if it would fix itself=
. And, sure enough, it did. As soon as I pulled it out of the garage, the f=
ans went off and all was back to normal.
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ymptom that something really bad is about to happen to my car? Anyone else =
have this happen to them? Thanks in advance for any help.
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Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 13:24:27 EDT
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In a message dated 10/30/99 10:53:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
KKoncelik(AT)aol.com writes:
<< The blank for the lighted key is an Illco WB2 but you have to shorten it 
by 
 4mm
 you can leave it longer but it doesn't sit quite right in the ignition 
 although it will work.
 
 Ken >>
My ignition key is not the same as my door key though.  My ignition key 
doesnt fit into the door at all and my lighted door key is much shorter than 
the ignition key.  Would this be a seperate blank than a later model?  I know 
there are two variations but my keys are totally cut different.  My car is a 
Aug 1981 build Vin 3360
Gary
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Scott,
In order to help you out I need to know if the problem is engine or
suspension related. If the shaking changes between accelerating and
decelerating it is probably engine related. If vibration or shaking changes
with speed it maybe suspension related. Tell me more.
 
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>
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> 
> That's exactly what I was going to say Joe, but let me add, just in case,
> about removing the vents as it can cause some severe trauma.  Also,
today, my 
> whole car began shaking violently when it drives, idling is fine.  It
feels 
> as if it's going across and endless road of speedbumps.  Now, I know most
> people are going to say it's probably flat spots in the tires, or
possibly 
> the belt separating, but I just wanted to get any other ideas before I
went 
> and yanked the tires off.  So, any ideas?
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance
> Scott 
> #16738

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I just had a set of Ilco keys made for my 83.  It has separate door and 
ignition keys.  They turned out to be a match for mazda and land rover keys.
Scott
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> today, my whole car began shaking violently when it drives
> It feels as if it's going across and endless road of speedbumps. 
>
> Now, I know most people are going to say it's probably flat spots
> in the tires, or possibly the belt separating
>
> Scott
Scott, if you are describing the symptoms accurately, you have FAR
more serious problems than flat spots or a separating belt.  Sounds
more like a broken or loose wheel or a broken axle, and certainly
unsafe to drive.  (Did you check for a flat tire?)
Shaking "violently" and a feeling of "going across an endless road 
of speed bumps" to me would indicate a VERY serious problem that merits
IMMEDIATE attention.  Please do NOT drive the car until you can get it
checked out!  Don't even attempt to drive it to a repair shop.
Regards,
Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982)
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At 11:38 PM 10/29/99 EDT, you wrote:
>That's exactly what I was going to say Joe, but let me add, just in case, 
>about removing the vents as it can cause some severe trauma.  Also, today,
my 
>whole car began shaking violently when it drives, idling is fine.  It feels 
>as if it's going across and endless road of speedbumps.  Now, I know most 
>people are going to say it's probalby flat spots in the tires, or possibly 
>the belt separating, but I just wanted to get any other ideas before I went 
>and yanked the tires off.  So, any ideas?
>
>
>Thanks in advance
>Scott 
>#16738
>
reply:
Hello Scott,
	Here are a few things that you might want to consider.
	Check your body bolts, loose body can account for all sorts of apparent
road noise.
	Check to see if you have thrown a wheel weight.
	Check the trailing arm bolts, and the pad nuts that hold the bushing in
place.
	Check the castle nuts in the whole suspension system.
	Check the rubber suspension bumpers, are they there?
	Check your engine mounts, bolts.
	Check your radiator mounts and nuts.
	Do a walk around and see if you have a loose stainless body panel.
	Check your wheel bearings, are they loose. Check the trans axal knuckle
joints, are 	the loose?
	Are all the exhaust manifold bolts there? and tight, also check the
exhaust train 	bolts as well.
	There should be no loose nuts or bolts, or any parts what ever. Every
thing should 	be snuggly fastened.
Lee
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What a difference a new set of tires makes on the De Lorean.
Just had installed Dunlop G/T Qualifier:
Front -- 195/60R14
Rear --    255/60R15
Speed: T
Traction: A
Treadware: 440
Temperature: B
Even though the rears are wider than NOS, they are clearing all of the
suspension.
And the ride is like flying on a magic carpet.
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Just purchased a shift boot with frame from P. J. Grady.
As most of the manual transmission owners know, the problem with the boot
and frame is that when you shift into reverse, the metal shifter post has a
tendency to compress the leather boot against the inner edge of the metal
frame.  Consequently, the frame cuts the boot.  This damage becomes quite
unseemly after awhile.  And eventually, you have to replace the boot.
Well, this is my third boot.  The first was NOS.  The second was from Terri
Jennings.  This third one is from P. J. Grady.  They all have the same
design flaw.  The frame width is too wide in the middle area of the longest
sides.  And there is an acute metal edge there.
The solution is to file down the metal frame about one-eight of an inch in
the middle section of the frame on the long side.   In the case of the Grady
frame, file down flush against the  snap on bracket.  This will give you a
completely flat metal surface on the interior of the frame.
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Hi Gary-
Thanks for your response.  Actually, the reason I asked is because I'm 
looking at an Aug '81 D as a purchase, and it has a few dings.  The owner 
quoted Rob Grady, who does all his work, as having said that those two door 
dings, and the hood dings are not really something he could tackle.  I was 
surprised, so I asked Rob when I called him for background on the car (Vin 
2725, pretty close to yours.)  Sure enough, that's what Rob said to me too. 
He says quarter panels are pretty easy, but hoods are another matter.  He 
said some of the other (further away) shops might have someone able to take 
them out.  Nobody else has responded to my post though. Guess I should e-mail 
James Espey direct.     -Wayne (& Rick)
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From: "Dave Stragand" <dave.stragand(AT)ketchum.com>
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Anyone have a cross-ref on the upper ball joint?  The one that I have
(yes, just one) is brand new, and has "J29" stamped into it.  Three
different parts stores couldn't find the part number or a
cross-reference though...
-Dave
VIN 5127

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From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut(AT)worldnet.att.net>
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>when the car is at idle the engine
> vibrates very much shaking the car. :-(  It goes away once you >give it
> some gas and I do not notice it.  Once the RPM's increase the >vibration
> goes away, it is like the timing is off or something...I am no Mr.
> Goodwrench so any help would be appreciated.
Look at thr rear of the engine, just to the right of the distributor and
you'll see the vacuum solinoid with a vacuum line going to the distributor
and another going under the intake manifold. There is an electrical
connection that should be plugged into the solinoid and it's very easy to
bump it loose when you're messing with things in that part of the engine
compartment.  If it's unplugged the engine would act just as you've
discribed.
Bruce Benson


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Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 20:02:38 EDT
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Use the  lllco WB2  blank for the door.  My VIN is 3309 august build and  my 
extra key for the door is this WB2 blank.  It works fine in my door lock.  My 
ignition key is totally different than my door.
Robert 
VIN 3309 
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From:	"Tom Niemczewski" <tomciodmc(AT)friko4.onet.pl>
Date:	Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:58:45 +0200
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Hi All,
I am looking for an auto trans for my D. If anyone has one for sale please
let me know via private email (tomcio(AT)gtemail.net). I can't afford a new
one... and mine cannot be fixed. I am looking for one that is "cheap"...
some missing parts are OK (ie. no governor). This is the last major part
that I need to get my D back on the road. I already replaced an engine ;o).
Please help....
Thanx
Tom Niemczewski
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vin 6298

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Thanks Lee, but as embarrassing as it is, I found the problem; although the 
tires looked brand new, upon further inspection, they were quite dry rotted.  
And even more, upon removal of the rear tires, I found that the belts had 
separated, causing the tires to, well, the best word to describe it is wave, 
almost as if they had come out of a van gogh painting.  So a quick 
replacement of some rear tires, and it's fixed.   But thanks a lot for the 
info, I will keep it aside in case of future need!!!
Scott
#16738
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From: Carson Clark <cnsandog(AT)yahoo.com>
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I found the problem, it was one of my injectors.  As I looked around
the engine to see if something was loose, i noticed one of the
injectors was out about a 1/4" more than the rest.  I pushed the
injector back down and the engine ran fine.  There was a metal clip to
hold the injector tight but it is worn and not working correctly.  I
guess I will try to find another clip somewhere.  Lucky this was the
problem!
Thanks,
C
VIN 16367
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> What is the RPM reading on your tach at idle ?
> 
> DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>
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> > From: Carson Clark <cnsandog(AT)yahoo.com>
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I just purchased my '83 DMC two weeks ago, and have enjoyed driving
> it
> > almost everyday...it only has 36k miles on it.  It has also been
> > impeccably maintained thru delorean Motor Center, as I have all of
> the
> > service records.
> > 
> > My problem just started today:  when the car is at idle the engine
> > vibrates very much shaking the car. :-(  It goes away once you give
> it
> > some gas and I do not notice it.  Once the RPM's increase the
> vibration
> > goes away, it is like the timing is off or something...I am no Mr.
> > Goodwrench so any help would be appreciated.
> > 
> > Thanks alot,
> > 
> > C
> > 
> > VIN 16367
> 
> 
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Earlier I posted a note about State Farm insurance and also a problem
about my DMC-12 automatic lugging down as if there was a fuel problem.
The problem: I'm driving along and the car slows down as though it is
running out of gas; if you turn off the key and then turn it on again
the car accelerates back to the speed it was running at and all is well
for about 2-4 minutes and then it repeats the slowdown again; turn off
key and turn on and its ok for a short time again.
What I've done. Replaced fuel pump relay; replaced fuel pump, gas
pickup line and filter on fuel pump inlet. 
Diagnostic setup: 
1. put tap into fuel line at fuel inlet on fuel distributor with
pressure gage 2. put 12 v light on power line going to fuel pump in
fuel pump relay with other end of light grounded.  
Observations:
1. The fuel pressure is at 75-80 psi while engine is running and about
45-50 psi at rest.  
2. Light is off until car turns over to start and then it stays on and
doesn't go off when car slows or until key is turned off to quit
3.  fuel pressure doesn't waver at all while car is running or slowing
down.  
4. car has good acceleration and power except when it slow as if fuel
is starving; also I hear something that sound like preignition knock on
occassion when it is slowing down with throttle depressed. 
I'd like thoughts on what to check out next. Insight or suggestions
will be really appreciated.
DaveS
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To all:
As Moderator of the week, I goofed and want to apologize.  I inadvertantly
approved for posting the lengthy, emotional message from Lee.  I suspect he
had intended it for the moderators eyes only, but with several messages
awaiting to be approved, I acted too quickly and pushed the wrong button.
The posting of Lee's feelings would not be a problem if it were not for his
use of a term that is very inappropriate for this list.  Further, his
personal references are, in my opinion, uncalled for.  However, posting the
message is my fault and I apologize.
Dick Ryan
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