Friday, September 25 1998 Volume 03 : Number 419
In this issue:
Re: DML: Disassembled D - An update
DML: Need a radio
DML: [admin] Re: [Fwd: messages...]
DML: German? French? What?
Re: DML: Need a radio
Re: DML: Re: Dash lights
Re: DML: Need a radio
DML: Re: turbo.... again..
DML: Stalling Engine
DML: looking for louvers
Re: DML: Oil Pan
Re: DML: Need a radio
DML: Re: Stalling Engine
DML: Re: Oil Pan
Re: DML: Need a radio
DML:Miami club
Re: DML: German? French? What?
Re: DML: Need a radio
Re: DML: Re: turbo.... again..
Re: DML: Need a radio
DML: Re: A/C drain pipe
Fw: DML: Need a radio
DML: New John Z. DeLorean Related Web Links & Book
Re: DML:Miami club
DML: Another Interesting Web Link: Did JZD Kill Colin Chapman?
DML: Coolant bottle needed
DML: Re: Re: A/C drain pipe
DML:hurricane
DML:hurricane
DML: Mobile Car Show Update #4
DML: NCDMC Gatherings
DML: MY CLASSIC CAR AUTOFEST
Re: DML: Re: A/C drain pipe
DML: Original NCT Tires
Re: DML: Original NCT Tires
DML: Re: parts and mags.
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 11:03:38 PDT From: "De Miller" <demillerkansas(AT)hotmail.com> Subject: Re: DML: Disassembled D - An update
Mike: I'm not trying to belabor the point, but you missed my point. I am assuming Dave is new to Deloreans...certainly not a Delorean mechanic... and he wants to end up with a daily driver. He intimated that he was relying on the seller's word that all the parts strewn around the seller's garage were, in fact, ALL of the parts. My point is if he would be willing to spend just $1,000 more, he could get a car that IS all together and then he would only have to put together...or restore...those parts that were needed. I disagree that you have to completely take a car apart before it is "counted" as completely restored. Sorry to be so touchy, but repairing or replacing anything on a Delorean is no picnic and undertaking the complete rebuilding of one would be a nightmare to all but the most able mechanics. De Miller, Kansas City.
>From dmcnews(AT)world.std.com Tue Sep 22 10:20:02 1998 >Received: by europe.std.com (8.7.6/BZS-8-1.0) > id NAA15288; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 13:02:56 -0400 (EDT) >Message-Id: <199809221702.NAA15288(AT)europe.std.com> >Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 09:39:51 -0400 >From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM(AT)cesmtp.ccf.org> >To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com >Subject: Re: DML: Disassembled D - An update >Sender: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com >Precedence: list >Reply-To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com > >Dave Stragand is looking at a totally disassembled DeLorean. De Miller >told him: > >> Check out the classified on DMCnews.com. There are at least >> two listings for cars (all in one piece) for $6,000. I would venture >> to guess that buying a D like the one you're looking at, you will end >> up spending thousands of hours and many more thousands of >> dollars putting it back together. Spend $10 to 12,000 right off the >> bat and you'll be better. > >I do not agree with De Miller. There are advantages to buying a >disassembled car, especially if you plan on doing a frame-off restoration. >If Dave wanted to turn a $6,000 DeLorean into a prime specemin he >would end up disassembling it anyway. > >Assuming there are no other missing parts and everything is in good >shape (those are big assumptions!) $5,000 might be a good price for this >car. The main factors that Dave needs to consider are how much time >and skill he can devote to the project and what he wants to end up with. >If he wants to know his DeLorean is cherry right down to the epoxy on >the frame, then he probably wants a project car like this. But if he just >wants a DeLorean as a daily driver then he should probably look for one >of those $10,000 - $12,000 cars. > >- Mike Substelny
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 11:08:07 PDT From: "De Miller" <demillerkansas(AT)hotmail.com> Subject: DML: Need a radio
Hi everyone: I'll be replacing my radio soon (hopefully this weekend) and would like to know if anyone has a make, model, brand etc., that they have used with little or no trouble. Of course, I'd like to pull the old one out and drop a new on in, if possible. I'm not necessarily looking for one for sale from list members (but, if you've got one, email me and we'll see), just some help in pointing me toward ones available at Best Buy etc., that have worked well for some of you is what I'm looking for. Thanks in advance. De Miller, Kansas City.
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 98 12:10:58 -0000 From: James Espey <espey(AT)dmcnews.com> Subject: DML: [admin] Re: [Fwd: messages...]
On 9/22/98 6:19 PM, Mats Karlsson shared these fine thoughts...
>How do you do this moderator thingie? Do you accept every individual >email that is posted to the list, or are all emails sent to the list >email adress automatically entered?
All messages sent to the list are screened by me, and if on-topic and appropriate, I forward them to the subscribers (over 1200, now). I "bounce" perhaps one or two per day. Most are messages that are personal in nature and should be sent via private email rather than through the list. Messages that have embedded HTML or other encoded text are also rejected as they are a waste of bandwidth. Some are out and out misinformation, others offer the same information as a recently previous posting.
The idea is to keep the signal-to-noise ratio as high as possible. A few years back i turned off the moderation for two weeks while I was on vacation and someone posted their Trans Am for sale (among other abuses). The majority of list members who have let me know their preference far and away prefer moderation over "free-flowing".
James Espey Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List http://www.dmcnews.com
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 15:26:43 -0400 From: Marc A Levy <malevy(AT)dnrc.bell-labs.com> Subject: DML: German? French? What?
There is a long thread of Delorean looking information on "no.bil" news group. (I found it on Dejanews)..
Can anyone translate, and pass along any interesting information?
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 15:20:28 -0400 From: Marc A Levy <malevy(AT)dnrc.bell-labs.com> Subject: Re: DML: Need a radio
I have not used it myself, but Kenwood offers some decent looking (from the specifications) "Shaft Mount" units. One of them you can even hook a CD changer to it.
De Miller wrote: > > Hi everyone: > I'll be replacing my radio soon (hopefully this weekend) and would > like to know if anyone has a make, model, brand etc., that they have > used with little or no trouble. Of course, I'd like to pull the old one > out and drop a new on in, if possible. I'm not necessarily looking for > one for sale from list members (but, if you've got one, email me and > we'll see), just some help in pointing me toward ones available at Best > Buy etc., that have worked well for some of you is what I'm looking for. > Thanks in advance. De Miller, Kansas City.
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 13:03:37 -0800 From: "Ken Montgomery" <kenm(AT)compctr.ccs.csus.edu> Subject: Re: DML: Re: Dash lights
> At 12:57 AM 9/21/98 -0700, you wrote: > >I have found out that the AC lights go on when I remove the wire bypass at > >the relay and replace it with the relay that was originally in that spot. > >The problem is the AC lights always stay on. How come the AC lights don't > >go on with the rest of the lights at night. I thought the bypass would > >allow the AC lights to go on with the headlights? > > > >Sandy
> Lee wrote: > > I don't know how your AC relay was jumped, but I made a jumper and removed > my relay (now in lock box behind driver as spare) and installed just as > Joe > described yesterday, and my AC lights are off except when the Head lights > are turned on, so they are off when the head lights are off and on when > the > heard lights are off. The jumpers do work from what every one I know > tells me.
Use a 10 ohm, 10 watt resistor (available from radio shack in a 2 pack) as the jumper. That will dim the lights to match the dash lights at night. The resistor only gets a little warm. The AC lights are normally supplied by a completly different circuit than the dash lights, that's why they still work while your dash lights are dead. Fix the dash lights, make up the jumper, and then the AC lights will come on with the dash lights.
- -------------------------------------------------- Ken Montgomery My DeLorean VIN #10911 'OUTTIME' Sacramento, CA kenm(AT)csus.edu Operating Systems Analyst W(916) 278-7646 H(916) 944-3252 Please visit my website at: http://www.jps.net/arkham/delorean01.htm - --------------------------------------------------
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 19:01:11 EDT From: Jimbo0946(AT)aol.com Subject: Re: DML: Need a radio
The radio I have in my DeLorean is the original radio (which works great) that came with the car. I did however want to put a CD player in the car. I purchased a CD changer and had it installed, which was very easy. The only hard part was locating the constant power and stand by power. However the CD changer and tape deck works great and I did not have to cut the dash. I mounted the changer behind the netting behind the driver's seat. I did this to try to keep everything original. I am not sure if this helped any.
JimmyC
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 16:38:54 -0500 From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut(AT)postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: turbo.... again..
> So does anyone know where a person without any major competence when it > comes to engines, can learn the plumbing needed to install a turbo? > Does anyone know of a book which deals with engine mechanics, and turbo > configuration, that is understandable to a non mechanic... I want to > learn MORE ;) > > /Matt
Matt,
The soft cover book TURBOCHARGERS by Hugh Macinnes is one of the better books on turbocharging. I used it when I did my own turbo system. It's available from Classic Motor Books, phone # 1-800-826-6600 or fax # 1-715-294-4448. The book is catalog # 107788a and it sell for $16.95.
Bruce Benson
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 16:56:15 -0400 From: "Watkins Family watbmv(AT)megalink.net" <watbmv(AT)megalink.net> Subject: DML: Stalling Engine
My car has started to stall when I approach a traffic light or stop sign. It does not do it all the time however. It happens when the engine is hot or cold. I will come to a stop light and depress the clutch and BAM, the RPMs drop like a rock and the engine cuts off. There is no problem restarting the engine and taking off again. It tends to not happen if I keep the RPM's up and dowshift to a stop. Could this be an idle thing or some type of relay cutting out.
Any suggestions.
Thanks
Tom Watkins #5732
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 22:24:02 -0400 From: "DOUG T VENNER" <DMC12(AT)prodigy.net> Subject: DML: looking for louvers
My friend is looking for a set of used louvers for his D. If anyone has a set they want to sell, let me know Thanx Doug Venner DMC12(AT)prodigy.net
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 22:28:53 -0500 From: Steve Brodsky <impact.auto(AT)airmail.net> Subject: Re: DML: Oil Pan
JCox4001(AT)aol.com wrote: > > It looks as though I am going to have to change out the oil pan gasket. > I was > hoping that I was looking at the "Traditional" oil leak on the driver > side, > however, I cleaned up the underside of the pan and motor, went for a > drive, > and immediately inspected to see where the oil leak was coming from. Oil > was > dripping off several of the lugs that hold the pan in place, especially > on the > driver side. > > My question is this. Most of the lugs look like they are reachable on > the oil > pan, but the back row look like they are impossible to reach. Are there > any > secrets that I need to know? I'm not a big guy by any means, but too > large to > get too far up under the car. Any suggestions? > Jeff if the oil is just leaking from the bolt holes, try a little rtv (blue). remove the bolts from one side at a time. clean the oil completely from the bolt - spray some brake cleaner in the bolt hole and blow it out with compressed air. apply a small dab of rtv to around the base of the bolt. DO NOT PUT RTV IN THE HOLES OR ON THE TREADS. (RTV, when dried, will not compress, therefore rtv in the bolt holes could cause the aluminum hole to split if it is torqued too tight (like putting oil on head bolts - a no-no). replace the bolts finger tight one at a time, then starting in the middle of the row, torque to the spec. If done properly, the rtv will be forced in the gasket around the bolt hole and stop oil seeping.
steve brodsky #10688
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 22:34:50 -0500 From: Steve Brodsky <impact.auto(AT)airmail.net> Subject: Re: DML: Need a radio
De Miller wrote: > > Hi everyone: > I'll be replacing my radio soon (hopefully this weekend) and would > like to know if anyone has a make, model, brand etc., that they have > used with little or no trouble. Of course, I'd like to pull the old one > out and drop a new on in, if possible. I'm not necessarily looking for > one for sale from list members (but, if you've got one, email me and > we'll see), just some help in pointing me toward ones available at Best > Buy etc., that have worked well for some of you is what I'm looking for. > Thanks in advance. De Miller, Kansas City.
talk to steve wynne at DMC Houston. i think he is putting a "kit" together to covert to a DIN type face. At least he has a drawing of a bracket that when mounted to the modified dash, it will provide plenty of support for the radio while holding the center ac registers in place. My Sony CD player looks and operates GREAT.
Steve Brodsky #10688
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Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 02:34:46 -0400 From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Stalling Engine
Tom, You problem may be related to the "idle speed circuit", this is a tough one to call because there are several other items that could cause this problem. Before checking the idle circuit be sure that your not having a fuel pump supply voltage problem. Start by changing the fuel pump fuse (# 7), even if it looks O.K.,. Next pull the fuel pump cover and make sure that the electrical wires and terminals are clean and solid. Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 02:02:20 -0400 From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Oil Pan
Jeff, Before you remove your oil pan have you eliminated the oil sender seal/switch as the possible cause of the leak? Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:11:39 +0000 From: Albert Siegel <siegel(AT)technologist.com> Subject: Re: DML: Need a radio
Try a Nakamichi CD Radio, they are the best around. I've had mine for about a year now and not a spot of trouble. I had a Sony before and that was total junk. The CD would skip for the smallest bumb. I returned it after just two weeks and got the Nakamichi. Anyway, the sony looked like a toy with those big buttons. It will cost you more though. the Sony was $250 and the Nakamichi cost me $600. A bit much but very worth it. Great sound quality!! If you are looking for something a little lower in price, try a Pioneer. They have that super tuner that works GREAT with the windshield antenna.
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Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:18:46 +0000 From: Albert Siegel <siegel(AT)technologist.com> Subject: DML:Miami club
Hello to everyone. The Miami DeLorean meeting will be moved to another date due to the Hurricaine. I would advise anyone in the South Florida Area to place their DeLorean in a safe place. Thank you all and take care.
Albert Siegel
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Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 18:24:50 +0200 From: Mats Karlsson <ford.prefect(AT)hehe.com> Subject: Re: DML: German? French? What?
Sure, Its in Norwegian, And there is some guy who saw a DeLorean for sale in some remote norwegian town, and was asking if anyone in the area could inspect it for him..
And thats about it... Some nerds who nknow nothing about the D, wondered why he wasnt curious about the colour etc.. ;)heheh
And then there is another strand about some poor D owner wanting to have a minor DMC meet in Norway, and he was ridiculed by lots of other people on the channel for having a car that was so "ugly"... They apparently don't know what they are talking about....
I don't want to translate it in any more detail as the strand was made up of about 43 messages... But thats about the general content...
/Matt
Marc A Levy wrote: > > There is a long thread of Delorean looking information on "no.bil" news > group. (I found it on Dejanews).. > > Can anyone translate, and pass along any interesting information?
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Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 09:33:20 -0800 From: "Ken Montgomery" <kenm(AT)compctr.ccs.csus.edu> Subject: Re: DML: Need a radio
De Miller wrote: > > Hi everyone: > I'll be replacing my radio soon (hopefully this weekend) and > would like to know if anyone has a make, model, brand etc., that they > have used with little or no trouble. Of course, I'd like to pull the > old one out and drop a new on in, if possible. I'm not necessarily looking > for one for sale from list members (but, if you've got one, email me > and we'll see), just some help in pointing me toward ones available at > Best Buy etc., that have worked well for some of you is what I'm > looking for. > Thanks in advance. De Miller, Kansas City.
I installed the latest Sony cassette unit in my car. I used a cutoff wheel on a moto-tool and to the opening. This leaves a thin area between the vents and the radio cutout. You have to work slowly to keep from melting the coating on the metal plate. The Sony comes with a DIN bracket that has tabs that can be bent out to grab onto the opening. The stock rear mounting support matches up to the Sony without modification. Some advantages to the Sony: Mounting is easy, the power antenna will only go up when the radio is playing, not when the cassette or the CD is in use, and if you enter your car in Concours events they can only nick you at most 1 point for not having a stock radio. The Sony has a clock built in so it replaces that function in the ASI radios, The cassette will work, so they shouldn't take off for that. And if you run new Monster cable speaker wires and put in new speakers you get really great sound. The CD changer is an option you can remove for the shows.
Kits are available to put an older radio into a DIN opening, so if you want to put the stock radio back in you can do so without anything showing.
- -------------------------------------------------- Ken Montgomery My DeLorean VIN #10911 'OUTTIME' Sacramento, CA kenm(AT)csus.edu Operating Systems Analyst W(916) 278-7646 H(916) 944-3252 Please visit my website at: http://www.jps.net/arkham/delorean01.htm - --------------------------------------------------
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Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 21:03:31 +0200 From: Mats Karlsson <ford.prefect(AT)hehe.com> Subject: Re: DML: Re: turbo.... again..
BRUCE BENSON wrote: > > > So does anyone know where a person without any major competence when it > > comes to engines, can learn the plumbing needed to install a turbo? > > Does anyone know of a book which deals with engine mechanics, and turbo > > configuration, that is understandable to a non mechanic... I want to > > learn MORE ;) > > > > /Matt > > Matt, > > The soft cover book TURBOCHARGERS by Hugh Macinnes is one of the better > books on turbocharging. I used it when I did my own turbo system. It's > available from Classic Motor Books, phone # 1-800-826-6600 or fax # > 1-715-294-4448. The book is catalog # 107788a and it sell for $16.95. > > Bruce Benson
Thanks,
Just curious, How much of a mechanic were you before you attempted this operation? Do I as an "average guy" stand a chance of actually doing it alone?
/Matt
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Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 15:10:05 -0700 From: "lseiler(AT)radiance.com" <lseiler(AT)radiance.com> Subject: Re: DML: Need a radio
At 09:33 AM 9/23/98 -0800, you wrote: >De Miller wrote: >> >> Hi everyone: >> I'll be replacing my radio soon (hopefully this weekend) and >> would like to know if anyone has a make, model, brand etc., <Snip....
and Ken said
>I installed the latest Sony cassette unit in my car. I used a cutoff >wheel on a moto-tool and to the opening. <Snip< reply:
I did the same thing but removed the AC panel first and installed the Adaptor before replacing the panel. This made re installing the AC boots and air ducts very easy, It also allowed me to clean up the rats net of wires and vacuum lines.
There is also a conversion kit available that allows the reinstallation of the original radio.
Lee
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Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 16:49:42 -0400 From: Michael Pack <mpack1(AT)tiger.towson.edu> Subject: DML: Re: A/C drain pipe
Hi DeLorean friends
I have my DeLorean with me at film school. It has been very hot and I've been running with the A/C on. My question is when the A/C comp. kicks in is it supposed to drain over top of the fuel tank area? My car did when I picked it up from P.J. Grady last month after $12,000 of work but now it seem like its not draing. Anyway to blow it out with air? I took it down to Lotus dealership this afternoon and they were helpful but my question was not answered.
Thank you very much and good luck with your cars Michael Pack "senator"
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Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:06:43 -0400 From: "Sean Howley" <tsuyoi(AT)mindspring.com> Subject: Fw: DML: Need a radio
I too wanted to use CDs in the DeLorean, but did not want to remove the original radio or modify the dask. I decided to install a Kenwood CD changer in the lock box (behind the driver seat) and it works great! It sounds at least as good as the in-dash CD player in my Acura.
Sean Howley VIN# 2345
>The radio I have in my DeLorean is the original radio (which works great) >that >came with the car. I did however want to put a CD player in the car. I >purchased a CD changer and had it installed, which was very easy. The >only >hard part was locating the constant power and stand by power. However >the CD >changer and tape deck works great and I did not have to cut the dash. I >mounted the changer behind the netting behind the driver's seat. I did >this >to try to keep everything original. I am not sure if this helped any. > >JimmyC
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Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:38:57 -0500 From: Daniel McGauley <hawkeye(AT)creativeworlds.com> Subject: DML: New John Z. DeLorean Related Web Links & Book
I. JOURNEY INTO DARKNESS:
Stephen L. Arrington's story:
Stephen Arrington's story begins on Hawaii's glistening sands and
ends in the mysterious deep of the great white shark. In between,
he
found himself trapped in the drug smuggling trade--unwittingly
becoming the "Fall Guy" in the highly publicized John Z. DeLorean
drug case. Naval career shattered, his youthful innocence stripped
from him, and friends and family put to the test of loyalty,
Arrington
locked on one hope during his savage stay in federal prison. He
endeavors to share that critical hope now.
Book Description: http://www.drugsbite.com/journey.htm
Book for Sale: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1563840030/qid%3D906597107/002-72650 1 4-8526464 (if that doesn't work search for ISBN: 1563840030 on amazon.com's site)
Video Description: http://www.drugsbite.com/journeyv.htm
Video Preview (first video has JZD footage): http://www.drugsbite.com/preview.htm
II. Frank Russo:
Attorney Russo was selected from among a staff of law clerks to
assist in
the prosecution of John Delorean...
http://www.acquittal.com/trivia.htm
III. Morganroth & Morganroth v. John Z. DeLorean and Ecclesiastes 9:10-11-12, Inc.
Electronic copy of Morganroth appeal decision
http://www.law.emory.edu/6circuit/aug97/97a0241p.06.html
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Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 21:04:56 -0400 From: Gabriel Figueroa <Gabe(AT)bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: DML:Miami club
Totally enjoyed the last meeting , I'am looking forward to the next one. gabriel
Albert Siegel wrote:
> Hello to everyone. The Miami DeLorean meeting will be moved to another > date due to the Hurricaine. I would advise anyone in the South Florida > Area to place their DeLorean in a safe place. Thank you all and take > care. > > Albert Siegel
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Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 21:29:13 -0500 From: Daniel McGauley <hawkeye(AT)creativeworlds.com> Subject: DML: Another Interesting Web Link: Did JZD Kill Colin Chapman?
I also found this on the Web today:
Complete Text at:
http://virtweb2.mis.net/grn/html/jukka_shivonnen_jukka_shivonnen.html
<SNIP> In 1982 founder of the highly successful Lotus marque, Colin Chapman, died unexpectedly of a reported heart attack. However, facts uncovered by a prominent British business publication dont seem to agree with the official cause of death. Jukka Shivonnen takes a look at the controversy and the events surrounding it. <SNIP>
The article is interesting but pretty over the top...
- -Daniel
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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 07:05:02 PDT From: "De Miller" <demillerkansas(AT)hotmail.com> Subject: DML: Coolant bottle needed
Hi everyone:
Thanks for the help on the radio. My next need is a coolant bottle.
Anyone got an extra (not the plastic one) that they need to get rid of?
Aluminum or stainless, either one. Thanks. De Miller, Kansas City.
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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:16:21 -0400 From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Re: A/C drain pipe
Michael, Yes, the A/C drain pipe is located between the right side frame rail and the gas tank. To gain access remove the panel located under the spare tire. The pipe is made of soft rubber and is easily cleaned out by hand, no air needed. Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 06:10:34 +0000 From: Albert Siegel <siegel(AT)technologist.com> Subject: DML:hurricane
It is now the day of the hurricane and this will be my last post for a week i would think. I am going to finish to move everything and take what i can in my De Lorean with me. I will move to higher ground to ride out the storm. I hope everything turns out well. Wish me luck everyone and good luck to all in south florida. take care
Albert Siegel
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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 06:10:34 +0000 From: Albert Siegel <siegel(AT)technologist.com> Subject: DML:hurricane
It is now the day of the hurricane and this will be my last post for a week i would think. I am going to finish to move everything and take what i can in my De Lorean with me. I will move to higher ground to ride out the storm. I hope everything turns out well. Wish me luck everyone and good luck to all in south florida. take care
Albert Siegel
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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 20:18:33 -0500 From: scottmueller(AT)zebra.net (Scott Mueller) Subject: DML: Mobile Car Show Update #4
Hooters Annual Car Show Update #4 Mobile, Alabama October 31, 1998
So far, eleven (11) DeLoreans and there owners are scheduled to attend the car show being held at Hooters in Mobile Alabama on October 31, 1998.
Steve Wynne of DeLorean Motor Company will present an informal tech seminar for the owners if we can get an even dozen (12) DeLoreans at the show.
I have found two brand new owners who have just purchased there DeLoreans, and one owner who may be traveling from Hong Kong to attend.
I will be hosting a BBQ at my home for the owners and there families/guests. At the show, I will give each owner a map to my home. If you have children who want to go trick or treat, they can join my son and make the rounds in my neighborhood. Its new and safe. We have plenty of parking, room for more than twenty cars and the area will be lite up like day light. So do not worry about your car.
I have had many people ask me if I was going to arrange for Motel/Hotel space. The short answer is no, but I will provide you with a list of places with there phone numbers which are within five miles of my home. They are all nice and clean. If you want this list, please email me directly so we do not waste bandwidth on the website.
Please send in your registration for the show itself as soon as possible, it makes it easier for the show organizers. The link for the form is below. Just mail it directly to the address shown on the form. Make sure that you sign up for "Class #40", we will have friendly competition between ourselves, and who knows, perhapes one of us will win best of show. Do not worry about the condition of your car, drive it, haul it, push it, but just be here. The point of this is for us to get together and have fun.
Show Registration Form http://www.zebra.net/~mgmarshall/hooters/hootersweb.html
If you have any questions, please email me directly.
Scott Mueller vin 002981 scottmueller(AT)zebra.net
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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:14:11 -0800 From: "Ken Montgomery" <kenm(AT)compctr.ccs.csus.edu> Subject: DML: NCDMC Gatherings
Last weekend marked the first meeting of the Northern California DeLorean Motor Club (NCDMC).
The meet took place at the Peppermill in Concord, CA. 5 owners brought their cars and also a couple of potential owners came to get a closer look at the cars and ask questions. After a big breakfast everyone went out to take pictures of the line of cars, swap stories and generally nose around each other's cars. Pictures will be posted to my web site by early next week.
Our October meeting will be held on Sunday October 18th, meeting for breakfast at the Marie Calendars off hwy. 680 at the Bollinger Canyon Rd. exit. We will meet at 9am to eat and chat. Following the breakfast (approx.10:45) we will caravan over to the Blackhawk Automotive Museum for a tour and photo opportunity. The staff will be expecting us, and depending on the group size, we may receive a group discount on admission (currently $8/person). The staff will allow us to park our cars in the front circular drive of the museum.
The tour will be about an hour and a half and for those wishing to stay for lunch. We will be contacting a nearby cafe (walking distance) to set up a group reservation.
The coordinator for this event is James Cooper. Please email James directly ASAP with your RSVP at:
WtrResQ(AT)aol.com
On the subject of the NCDMC, we discussed what we'd like to do in the future and how we would plan future meetings. We all agreed that we'd like to host a large DeLorean event some time in the future, perhaps in the Carmel/Monterey Bay area (We promise to keep it cheap and lots of fun!). Also look for an announcement about the NCDMC web site.
We're looking for input from the East Coast clubs as to some of the activities they do. We're not looking to become a 'proper' club with officers and a treasury. We simply want to make a way for all the owners in this area to get in contact and have fun!
Thanks again to everyone who came and we hope more N. Cal owners will be able to make it next time!
- -------------------------------------------------- Ken Montgomery My DeLorean VIN #10911 'OUTTIME' Sacramento, CA kenm(AT)csus.edu Operating Systems Analyst W(916) 278-7646 H(916) 944-3252 Please visit my website at: http://www.jps.net/arkham/delorean01.htm - --------------------------------------------------
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Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 22:39:22 -0500 From: "Micah Fryman" <nocoke2(AT)litchfieldil.com> Subject: DML: MY CLASSIC CAR AUTOFEST
Delorean Mailing List:
I wanted to remind everyone of the "My Classic Car 2nd Annual Autofest" which is being held in Evansville, IN on Oct 2-4. This is going to be a big show. Last year we had 8 Deloreans and received some Television coverage on the My Classic Car television show which airs on TNN. To make reservation Call 812-436-4592. Call me for more information at: 217-324-6558.
Micah Fryman
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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 22:59:49 EDT From: KayoOng(AT)aol.com Subject: Re: DML: Re: A/C drain pipe
Hi Mike,
This is Kayo. Glad to see you got your other "second" car on the road. About your A/C drain hose you can access it from the hood under the spare tire. Check it out to see what is obstructing it. After you clear it, try EXTENDING the hose by adding on an additional section to pass the chassis. This will prevent water dripping on to your chassis which will speed up rusting. Poor design to have water from the A/C dripping all over the front chassis area. RUST!!!
Have time? Give me a call.
Kayo Ong #05508 Lic 9D NY
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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 20:39:55 -0700 From: World Traveller <eurojet(AT)sdcoe.k12.ca.us> Subject: DML: Original NCT Tires
There's a good chance that I will be purchasing and driving home an 81 with 14K miles on it. It has the original tires and I will be driving about 400 miles home. Do you think that tires this old are still roadworthy or is it worth $400 to have the car trucked home? Mechanically it shouldn't be a problem as the current owner has replaced about all of the crucial components. How easy is it to fix a flat on one of these beasts? Looking forward to becoming part of the DeLorean
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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 23:50:52 -0500 From: Steve Brodsky <impact.auto(AT)airmail.net> Subject: Re: DML: Original NCT Tires
World Traveller wrote: > > There's a good chance that I will be purchasing and driving home an 81 > with 14K miles on it. It has the original tires and I will be driving > about 400 miles home. Do you think that tires this old are still > roadworthy or is it worth $400 to have the car trucked home? > Mechanically it shouldn't be a problem as the current owner has replaced > about all of the crucial components. How easy is it to fix a flat on one > of these beasts? Looking forward to becoming part of the DeLorean
re: tires, 17 year old NCT's need to be replaced, period. if you are intent on driving it, get new tires when you pick it up. the spares are notorious leakers and aren't meant for extended travel. besides, if you get a flat on the rear and you don't have a "luggage" carrier, you can count on having a "buddy" in the passenger seat as the rear tire won't fit in the spare wheel well. all things considered, i'd ship it until i knew the car
steve brodsky #10688
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Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:06:41 -0400 From: chip <chip(AT)koan.com> Subject: DML: Re: parts and mags.
just a few quick things. i was wondering if anybody had a few spare parts that they could sell me.
1.i need a rear, left parking light. i think thats what it is. its red. i just need the plastic cover thing. 2. i also am looking for new wiper blades. 3. (heres a long shot) a need the main dash peice. if nobody has that...anybody know how much they are new? 4. last one for now. the plastic thing that goes around the door latch, and mirror toggle. on the inside. know what im talking about?
i wish i knew the names for these but hey it's 1:00 in the morning!!
i also have some magizines i would consider selling. the first one is the November 8, 1982 issue of People. it says COCAINE in white letters on it and has a pic of JZD with Cristina and their kids on the front. the other is the November 1, 1982 issue of Time which has a headshot of JZD on the cover. i am unsure how much these are worth but i am open to offers. if any please send them to chip(AT)koan.com
thanx for everybodys help. love the list.
chip www.variousimages.com vin # 1230
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