DeLorean Mailing List - 08/02/96

Friday, 2 August 1996       Volume 02 : Number 149

       In this issue:
        DeLorean for Sale
        More Clutch
        Re: electrical leaks
        Re: electrical leaks
        Flushing the radiator
        Re: flushing radiator
        Re: Flushing the radiator
        Custom Plates
        DOA Expo Reminder


From: Don_Gowler-CFPO01(AT)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 09:39:32 -0400 (EDT)

James, an excellent job of putting the DOA Concours rules on the web.  I 
certainly appreciate the fine effort and will put the new rules to use at 
British Car Union show here in Chicago on Sept 8th where we will hold our 
annual DeLorean Concours.

Thanks and best regards,        The Silver Fox


From: Arlin M.Pennington, arlin(AT)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 13:39:48 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: DeLorean for Sale

If anyone is serious about the purchase of a DeLorean please contact 
me.  I am the original owner of a 1981 Delorean, 5-spd., all upgrades, 
never dinged, only 37600 miles.  Runs and looks like new (stainless 
steel).  I am the only driver - ever.  I am too old for the car. I have 
lost the use of my right arm which prevents me from driving a stick 
shift.  One rear tire has just come apart (dry-rotted) from lack of 
use.  Passenger window has jumped the track.  Windshield washer moter 
has rusted up. No other problems.  Interior is grey and in excellent 

Steven Wynn at DeLorean One in Houston knows the car.

Arlin Pennington (505) 286-1765, e-mail: Arlin(AT) 


Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 14:10:48 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: More Clutch

With all the recent talk about clutches on the car I figure that now is a 
good time to ask a question.  My clutch is very slowly leaking a thick 
I assume it to be the hydrolic fluid, out of the dust cover surrounding 
where the clutch enters the master cylinder.  From what I can tell I am 
guessing that the o-ring on the piston has deteriorated. Does anyone know
if the ring is a standard generic part, or am I going to have to have one
of the Delorean shops do a rebuild.  Which is my second question: do the 
shops do rebuilds and has anyone had this done? ANy information is 

Also, The dashboards of the cars seem to crack very easily and 
Mine had two massive forking cracks which ruined the appearence of the 
interior.Though, who can afford a $700 new dash just for vanities sake.  
What I ended up doing was buying a tub of contact cement and a bunch of 
matching vinyl and recovered the dash myself.  It is a simple, cheap fix 
really improves the look of the interior. Just my experience.


From: Mike Substelny, SUBSTEM(AT)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 15:29:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: electrical leaks

Eric said:
>I have begun the process of trying to locate the electrical
>leak  in my system that causes my battery to die after only
>a couple of days.

A James Thurber character once described electrical leaks. 
She said, "If you don't put light bulbs in all your sockets, the
electricity leaks out onto the ground!"   :-)

Seriously, I'd love to help you but I can't.  Sometimes my
battery drains, sometimes it doesn't drain.  I really can't get a
good reading because my "at rest" load is so variable.  But
that unfused 0.002 mA load bothers me.  How could they
install a device that draws while the ignition is off without
giving it a fuse?  Yikes!

Could there be an inline fuse somewhere, like a radar
detector, cruise control, or other non-standard device?  Or
maybe someone knows of a standard device that is fused
outside the fusebox?

Good luck,

- -Mike Substelny


From: mikasa(AT)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 15:49:33 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: electrical leaks

>Could there be an inline fuse somewhere, like a radar
>detector, cruise control, or other non-standard device?  Or
>maybe someone knows of a standard device that is fused
>outside the fusebox?

Well, I've never professed to be much of electrical wizard, but wouldn't 
inline fuse in the radio wiring (clock, station preset memory, etc) draw 



From: Bdofprey(AT)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 23:38:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Flushing the radiator

I will be draining the radiator water\fluid soon.  Is there anythin 
to the delroean that I should know?  Is it like most other cars?  What 
the mixture be?


Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 09:29:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: flushing radiator

Make sure you use an antifreeze that protects aluminum.  I
believe one aluminum engine is like another, so use the
concentration specified on the antifreeze jug for your driving
climate.  Demineralized or distilled water is probably a good
idea.  If you can get a pressure tester it would be nice to
pressurize your system with the engine cold.  This way you
can bleed the system, if needed, and check for leaks.  Our
cars are at the age when hoses are degenerating.
I hope this information is helpful (I also hope it's correct!)
                   -Mike Substelny


From: HBreer(AT)
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 09:29:45 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Flushing the radiator

Bdofprey(AT) wrote:
> I will be draining the radiator water\fluid soon.  Is there anythin
> specifc
> to the delroean that I should know?  Is it like most other cars?  What
> should
> the mixture be?

The cooling system on a DeLorean is a vacuum system and is prone to 
something a'kin to vapor lock and will cause overheating if the air is 
not bled properly.  Here is the procedure I use.

Run a piece of vacuum hose (about 3 feet) from the air bleed screw 
located on the thermostat housing at the back of the engine into a bucket 
full of water.  Run water from a garden hose into the header bottle.  
Start the engine.  Open the bleed screw.  Turn on the car's heater.

As the engine runs, you should get bubbles from the end of the vacuum 
hose.  Keep running the engine until the fans have cycled on and off 
twice.  (This ensures that the thermostat has opened and any air trapped 
in the heater core has had a chance to circulate).

When you get no more bubbles, shut the engine off, but leave the bleed 
screw open.  Slowly pour one gallon of anti-freeze into the header 
bottle.  This will force a gallon of water out through the bleed screw 
and into the bucket, but it is so far downstream in the cooling system, 
you will not loose any anti-freeze.

Note:  The cooling system holds 2.9 gallons.  The above mixture is 
about 35% anti-freeze and 65% water and works fine here in Southern 
California, but if you want to use the recommended 50/50 mixture, you 
should add about 1 1/2 gallons of anti-freeze instead.

BUCKET!  Then you can pull the hose off of the bleed screw and put the 
cap back on the header bottle.

Hope this works as well for you as it has for me.

Hank Breer
DOA #4637


From: Mike Substelny, SUBSTEM(AT)
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 11:09:57 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Custom Plates

If you live in OHIO today is the day to get a custom plate!

Today, 8-2-96, is the day Ohio goes from a six digit plate to
a seven digit plate.  When I learned this, I decided to get a
custom plate immediately.  I was the first one there at the
crack of dawn, they told me I could be the first to order a
seven digit custom plate SO I COULD GET ANYTHING I
WANTED!  Seven characters, with one short space
anywhere if I wanted it.

My new plate says: TIMELES.

It's a triple entendre about the classic beauty of the
DeLorean, its incredible durability, and its reputation as a
time traveller.  Other selections I would suggest today are:

Anything is available if you hurry.  Drop what you're doing,
run out and get new Ohio plates today!

For those of you still looking for six digit plates in states
where all the good ones are taken, may I suggest:
A BARE 1       BARE SS       DMC XII         1 FAST D
0 PAINT         BKNTYM        NOT GMC      2 WINGS
MC FLYR       IT FLYS          I M BARE      I PAST U

- -Mike Substelny


From: mikasa(AT)
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 11:49:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: DOA Expo Reminder

Just a reminder, the cutoff for registration to this year's DeLorean 
Owners Assocation Expo, August 29 - September 1 at Opryland Hotel in 
Nashville, Tennessee is AUGUST 8TH. More information on expo can be found 
at the DOA web page ( If you have any 
questions regarding expo, registration, etc., PLEASE EMAIL 
"expo(AT)" or to myself directly at "mikasa(AT)"

James Espey
Man of many hats


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