DeLorean Mailing List - 08/19/96


Monday, 19 August 1996       Volume 02 : Number 156

       In this issue:
        Things you hear when you drive your DeLorean
        Burnt DeLorean - worth it?
        Re: Burnt DeLorean - worth it?
        Help needed in Roanoke
        Re: DMC-News, One Year Later...
        Re: DMC-News, One Year Later...
        Matchbox size DeLoreans!
        Questions about looking at a D for sale
        Re: Matchbox size DeLoreans!
        Plate
        Re: Burnt DeLorean
        Going to be in Phoenix?
        Re: looking at a D for sale
        Re: Questions about looking at a D for sale

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From: mcaction(AT)usa.pipeline.com
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 21:21:10 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Things you hear when you drive your DeLorean

You hear a lot of nice word when you drive your DeLorean everyday. 
Most people remeber 'Back to the future'. Three very nice things  
that happened: 
- - at a gas station: the guy JUMPED on the street an said "Nonono, 
  you can't fill your car here! We ran out of plutonium" 
- - Police on freeway: "... at least you weren't faster than 88mph" 
  (no ticket!) 
- - Valet parking, I open the door, the guy says: "Hello, this 
  is 1996. What century are you from?" 
 
Matt.

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From: LAGNAF4352(AT)aol.com
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 23:28:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Burnt DeLorean - worth it?

i know about a delorean for sale that has its insides burnt, and it needs 
a
whole new rear.
the front on it is perfect though, for 3000.
would this be a good investment, or will it put me in the hole? 

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From: marv930(AT)ix.netcom.com
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 10:20:45 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Burnt DeLorean - worth it?

LAGNAF4352(AT)aol.com wrote:
> 
> i know about a delorean for sale that has its insides burnt, and it needs
> a whole new rear. the front on it is perfect though, for 3000.
> would this be a good investment, or will it put me in the hole?
- -------------reply
Since the left front fender/qtr panel is worth in the vicinity of $3,500 
you would probably stand a nice profit simply by parting what's left of 
the car. As I recall the doors go for close to $5,000 each. The grill is 
$350 ( I know because I had to buy one about a year ago ) bye the way, on 
that note, to all owners ... make sure those two screws are tight, mine 
just upped and awayed over the top on a highway and was trashed by the 
cars behind me.  Best regards,
Marv Sterling...

PS - glad I don't live in CA - prices on 81's are running about 15M in 
the NY area and '83's, when available, are running 20-30M ... in fact 
mine is insured for a fixed 20M.

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From: RSRodgers(AT)aol.com
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 10:58:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Help needed in Roanoke

I received the following Email.  Can anyone help this person?  I gave them
the Newslist info.

>Subj:	'81 Delorean
>Date:	96-08-15 19:23:03 EDT
>From:	karlaf(AT)jwburress.com (Karla Flannagan)
>To:	RSRodgers(AT)aol.com
>
>Hello, I am in Roanoke, VA and my friend has recently purchased an '81
>Delorean.  He is having trouble with the windows.  He thinks that the
>motor or gears are bad.  Do you have any info as who we contact to ask
>how to fix it or where to get parts?  
>I would appreciate if you reply to our request.
>
>:)
>
>Karla

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From: Ray Haug, Raymond_Haug(AT)lamg.com
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 16:17:27 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: DMC-News, One Year Later...

CONGRATULATIONS --- JAMES  !!!!!

Simply Outstanding Efforts both in the Mailing List and the Delorean 
Owners
Association Home Page.  Both are Real Winners in the Internet World.

For you SURFERS that have not yet seen the Association Home Page - do 
check
it out at:

www.delorean-owners.org

See you in Nashville!

Ray Haug
Chapter 12 Coordinator
DeLorean Owners Association

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From: Marvin S.Sterling, marv930(AT)ix.netcom.com
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 16:17:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: DMC-News, One Year Later...

At 09:31 PM 8/15/96 -0400, you wrote:
>August 16th marks the first anniversary of the DeLorean Mailing List. The 
>first issue (http://www.goodnet.com/~mikasa/dml001.html) went out to just 
>10 subscribers. One year and 154 issueslater  we have 277 subscribers to
>both the "live" and "digest" versions of the list.
>
<> snip - snip - snip
>Thanks to all of you for the fun (and the occasional frustration) that 
>this list has given me. I hope that each of you, in some way, gets 
>something useful out of it also.
>
>James Espey, Moderator
>DMC-News, The DeLorean Mailing List
>
NO! NO!   THANK YOU !
Best regards,
Marv Sterling

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From: Dave Price, davep(AT)humanmachine.com
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 16:22:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Matchbox size DeLoreans!

I have a few MOC (brand new), match box size DeLoreans made by Zylmex, 
these sweet babies have front and rear wheel spring suspension, free 
rolling wheels, a die-cast metal body and chassis, and the gullwing 
doors open and close!
I only have a few of these, so I'm selling them for $25 bucks each. If 
your interested please, email me at: "davep(AT)humanmachine.com". Digital 
image available upon request.  All offers considered.

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From: starman(AT)cnj.digex.net
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 09:29:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Questions about looking at a D for sale

Hi all,
	There's a De that I'll be looking at this weekend and I just want
to know what to look for. The car has about 8k on it, but the gastank as
cleaned; I just don't know how to check if the rest of the system was
contaminated.
	The door struts are supposedly weak. How do they get fixed?
	Where do I check for frame rust?
	What else is there to check?
	Where has Elvis been sighted?

	Thanks. I'm coming out of lurker mode! :)

Mike


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From: marv930(AT)ix.netcom.com
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 09:30:15 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Matchbox size DeLoreans!

Dave, Price(AT)facteur.std.com, davep(AT)humanmachine.com wrote:
> 
> I have a few MOC (brand new), match box size DeLoreans made by Zylmex,
> these sweet babies have front and rear wheel spring suspension, free
> rolling wheels, a die-cast metal body and chassis, and the gullwing
> doors open and close!
> I only have a few of these, so I'm selling them for $25 bucks each. If
> your interested please, email me at: "davep(AT)humanmachine.com". Digital
> image available upon request.  All offers considered.
- -------------------divider
Is this the "real DeLorean or the BTTF version ?
Marv Sterling

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From: ausmith(AT)pdx.oneworld.com
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 10:31:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Plate

 Does anyone know who owns the Oregon plate D LORAN? Saw it yesterday 
as it drove through town and they didn't stop and say hello. Must not 
be members of the list.

Chris

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From: SUBSTEM(AT)cesmtp.ccf.org
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 11:09:45 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Burnt DeLorean

If the car is an '81 with a good windshield antenna, please
drop me a line!

- -Mike Substelny

substem(AT)cesmtp.ccf.org


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From: mikasa(AT)goodnet.com
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 11:10:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Going to be in Phoenix?

This past weekend a list member from Minnesota, R.W. Brown, was in 
Phoenix on business and we were able to get together and meet. It was a 
real neat opportunity to finally talk to someone in person after just 
conversing via the list and email. We went to a local car show where we 
met up with another local DeLorean owner, Chris Rabalais (also a list 
member). 

If anyone else on the list is ever in or near Phoenix, even if it's just 
a layover at the airport (my office is 1/2 mile from airport), let me 
know! I'd love to meet to you and buy you your drink of choice!

James Espey
Moderator, DMC-News

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From: SUBSTEM(AT)cesmtp.ccf.org
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 11:11:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: looking at a D for sale

Mike asked:
>The door struts are supposedly weak. How do they get
>fixed?
>Where do I check for frame rust?
>What else is there to check?

Door struts are incredibly easy to repair.  Call any DeLorean
parts supplier (there is a nice list in the survey section of
James' page) and order a pair of new struts.  The swap takes
minimal tools and no skill to accomplish.

Check the shock towers and all welds and joints for rust. 
Even a small spot of frame rust is a pain in the neck to
repair, but anyone can do it if they try.  Also check the
condition of the rear trailing arms and the bolts that hold the
to the frame.

Almost anything is repairable, frame rust and fuel system
damage are just two of the most expensive ones.  Do not be
surprised to find a few minor electrical bugs.  Look in the
relay compartment behind the passenger seat and in the
junction box in the engine compartment.  Look for corrosion /
damage to the wiring.  Do not be surprised if one or two of
the relays have been bypassed by jumpers  (fan control
module, center consol light relay).

Items below are common faults repairable for a few hundred
dollars or less.  Be aware of them when negotiating price:

Check all electrical accessories, including the power locks,
door marker lights and driving lights.

Often the fuel gauge will read improperly due to a bad sender
unit (under the spare tire in the trunk).  If you smell gasoline
this may also be the sender unit (rather than a bad fuel line).

Listen for a ticking sound from the speedometer.  Does the
speedo read accurately?  Speedo angle drives and cables
are *notoriously* fragile.  Thus, there are many DeLoreans
out there with more miles on them than their odometers
show!

Feel for loose steering.  Steering naturally loosens up as the
car is driven, but it should be very tight on a low mileage car!

Do the brakes pull to one side?  Inactivity may have allowed
part of a calliper to freeze up.

Put a tape in the tape player.  Listen to all four speakers
individually.

Sorry for rambling on and on.  I haven't had time to look at
any sale DeLoreans yet this year, and I'm living vicariously
through you!

- -Mike Substelny


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From: mikasa(AT)goodnet.com
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 12:18:14 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Questions about looking at a D for sale

>	There's a De that I'll be looking at this weekend and I just want
>to know what to look for. The car has about 8k on it, but the gastank as
>cleaned; I just don't know how to check if the rest of the system was
>contaminated.

I agree with everything Mike said in his reply on this subject, plus I 
have this to add:

Certain pieces that have become scarce (read: expensive) and other things 
that I would look for include the cargo netting behind the seats, the 
binnacle surrounding the instrument cluster (look for crack), check the 
condition of the louvres for cracking in stress areas, cracking of the 
leather on the seats, condition of the headliners (waters stains, "rub" 
marks from the weatherstripping), original radio (Craig on '81's), 
condition of carpets (passenger side, behind seat may be damaged if the 
battery has ever leaked), jack and toolkit in storage area behind grille 
in luggage compartment, front and rear domelights work, DMC logo on all 
glass (if not it has been replaced), rear defrost switch works (REAR DEF 
on center console lights up), trip odometer reset shaft NOT broken off 
and in good operating condition, fusebox covers are expensive to replace 
(this falls in the "nice to have" category, rather than "have to have")  
- - those are the things that immediately come to mind for me.

James

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