DeLorean Mailing List - 08/26/96


Monday, 26 August 1996       Volume 02 : Number 159

       In this issue:
        MPH gauged by RPM
        Re: MPH gauged by RPM
        Delorean vs Fiero
        Re: MPH gauged by RPM
        Caravan from Boston to Nashville
        Towing
        manuals
        Re: MPH gauged by RPM
        ADMIN NOTE
        Fuel Pump Screens For Sale
        Using Purolator Oil Filters
        Dilemma: NJ front plate
        Noise in tank
        Crash Test...
        Re: Delorean vs Fiero
        Black Louver Hood
        I need the AC, my cdplayer does not...
        DMC heart transplant or double bypass?
        Re: Caravan
        Spark plugs
        stored DeLorean
        Re: Purolator filters

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From: Blarness(AT)aol.com
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 18:38:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: MPH gauged by RPM

Can anyone tell me how fast 
(in MPH) 4200 RPM is with the car
using the correct NCT 60's in 
5th gear?

As far as I can tell it's 85.  Honest officer.

Please?  and Thank You's in advance.

- -C2
# 3876

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From: mikasa(AT)goodnet.com
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 19:08:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: MPH gauged by RPM

>Can anyone tell me how fast 
>(in MPH) 4200 RPM is with the car
>using the correct NCT 60's in 
>5th gear?

Some documentation I received from the DOA says in fifth gear you get 
26.5 MPH per 1,000 RPM. Therefore, (4200/1000) x 26.5 = 111.3 MPH

James


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From: Bdofprey(AT)aol.com
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 13:38:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Delorean vs Fiero

Last night I attempted a water pump replacement on a friends Fiero GT.  I 
had
never seen one close up before and definately never  worked on one.  I
apprectiate the design and engineering that went into my D now more then
ever!

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From: Chase Clark, stormrider(AT)socketis.net
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 13:38:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: MPH gauged by RPM

By my own estimations, 55 MPH is slightly below 2000 RPM in fifth gear,
while 70 MPH is right around 2500 RPM. I can not actually confirm this
until I get my angle driver working consistently and accurately. Anyone 
care
to differ with my guesses?

~ Chase



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From: MGintis(AT)aol.com
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 13:38:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Caravan from Boston to Nashville

I will be driving my D from boston to Nashville on tue or wed. I anyone is
interested in forming a caravan form Boston, NY, Philla, Pittsburg or
Cincinnati Please contact me. See y'all at the Opray.

Murray

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From: CarlIanNew(AT)aol.com
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 11:48:23 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Towing

I have just received my Delorean (#1704).  It was shipped from NJ.  For 
those
of you on the East coast looking for a company to ship a vehicle.  I was
pleased with the performance of RCF Towing, Binghamton NY (607) 775-4052.

Carl Newman

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From: CarlIanNew(AT)aol.com
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 11:55:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: manuals

Well,

I have just mailed my DOA membership form and check.  No really, the 
check IS
in the mail :)  Does anyone know where I can find both (any/all) a 
hardcopy
or online version of both the Parts Manual and the Technical Manual?

Carl Newman #1704

P.S.  Anyone know how to best access the power antenna?  Mine fell into 
the
compartment?



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From: Marvin S.Sterling, marv930(AT)ix.netcom.com
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 11:55:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: MPH gauged by RPM

Blarness(AT)aol.com wrote:
> 
> Can anyone tell me how fast
> (in MPH) 4200 RPM is with the car
> using the correct NCT 60's in
> 5th gear?
> 
> As far as I can tell it's 85.  Honest officer.
> 
> Please?  and Thank You's in advance.
> 
> -C2
> # 3876-------------divider

I don''t know but 2500 rpms in 5th on a flataway = 65 mph on mine.
Regards,
Marv Sterling

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From: mikasa(AT)goodnet.com
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 12:32:21 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: ADMIN NOTE

Due to expo, list operation may be somewhat erratic from 8/27 through 
possibly as late as 9/9. I will be attempting to post "expo updates" to 
the list and the web pages so for those of you that aren't going, keep it 
here for the latest.

James Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List

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From: James Espey, mikasa(AT)goodnet.com
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 12:58:22 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Fuel Pump Screens For Sale

I have two (2) brand new fuel pump screens that I do not need and would 
like to sell. If you need a screen, or are planning a fuel tank cleanout, 
you know that these screens are next to impossible to get. Make me an 
offer on one or both, interesting trades considered.

James Espey

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From: crs(AT)houston.i-link.net
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 17:35:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Using Purolator Oil Filters

        I just changed my oil and filter and ran into the problem of the
filter hitting the oil pressure sender unit. I fixed this problem by 
moving
the oil pressure sender
unit.  The procedure is simple- takes 5 minutes tops- but as a caution do 
it
only after having drained the oil...  What to do is buy a 45-degree brass
elbow from an auto parts store. The store I went to(Hi/Lo) didn't have any
in metric thread but found that an 1/8 inch standard fits perfectly. Just
screw the elbow into the block and the sender unit into the other end. I
found that aiming the thing in a vertical position allowed for plenty of
clearence to then use the large oil filters.  The oil pressure sender 
still
works- which isn't saying much. Hope this helps.
Burton

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From: starman(AT)cnj.digex.net
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 11:51:02 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Dilemma: NJ front plate

Hi all,
	I'm THIS close to getting my D, and on insepcting it yesterday I
realized that there's no holder for a front NJ plate. Is there a plate
holder for the front of a DMC OR does NJ overlook this?

Mike


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From: 76153.3641(AT)compuserve.com
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 11:51:04 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Noise in tank

Every time a drive my Delorean for more than one and a half hour a sound 
in 
the gas tank start.Any help will be apreciate

                                                   joel
                                                   from Puerto Rico


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From: awolf(AT)pacific.telebyte.net
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 11:51:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Crash Test...

	Didn't I recall reading in...Road and Track, I believe, that the intent 
was to have at least 500 test vehicles, but that only 2 were ultimately 
produced?...And that one of these two slipped off a wet road and was 
destroyed...?
	I'm not sure about road and track's credibility, but I believe the 
article was written by one of Mr. DeLorean's executives...?
	Maybe I'm just not remembering correctly, don't mind me, I tend to 
babble...hehehe

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From: curtisb(AT)gr.hp.com
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 11:51:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Delorean vs Fiero

> 
> Last night I attempted a water pump replacement on a friends Fiero GT.  I had
> never seen one close up before and definately never  worked on one.  I
> apprectiate the design and engineering that went into my D now more then
> ever!
> 

Yea, but compare the luggage space!  I can't get my suitcase in the
Delorean, but it drops right in the Fiero.  I have to use a small suitcase
when I take the D.

- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Curtis C. Ballard                                            (970) 
350-4014
Hewlett Packard                                           
curtisb(AT)gr.hp.com
Storage Systems Operation R&D Lab                               Greeley, 
CO

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From: CarlIanNew(AT)aol.com
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 11:51:45 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Black Louver Hood

I am having problems with the black louver engine hood.  The end of the 
hood
brushes the end of the top of the car.  The holes on the Louver have been
elongated, and I have tried all positions to make the hood rise without
touching the edge of the top of the car with no luck (to the point where 
the
hood can't even latch because it is so far back).  

Can someone please desribe the position of a properly adjusted hood?  

for example.  (The top of the black louver rests just below of the SS 
which
jets out from the top of the car.  As the hood is raise the louver passes
around the SS to ultimately end up above the top of the car).

When the hood is fully raised, what is the top edge of the louver's 
position
with respect to the top of the car, is it above or below?

Thanks
Carl Newman #1704

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From: awolf(AT)pacific.telebyte.net
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 11:51:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: I need the AC, my cdplayer does not...

	A while back I had a cd-player installed in my DeLorean, immediately 
afterwards the driver side vent did not put out anything...
	It wasn't really much of a bother until the heat started up and I had to 
push the ac up on full to be comfortable...Funny thing though, the 
cd-player 
started skipping and upon removing the cd from it, I noticed it was 
extremely 
cold and condensation had started building on it...
	Eventually I removed the stereo to find that pretty little rubber boot, 
mashed up against the back of the stereo, thus air conditioning it...
	Being mashed there for so long, they were extremely out of shape, making 
it even harder to install them..., My solution was to slip it over the 
vent and 
heat it up enough, stretching it slightly as I went along.  Once on, it 
cooled, 
contracted and is on nice and tight...
	Hopefully I don't have to go through that again, those boots are a pain 
and a half....

	Wolfeeee

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From: Knut_S_Grimsrud(AT)ccm.jf.intel.com
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 11:52:33 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: DMC heart transplant or double bypass?

     After 100,000 miles on my DMC I am starting to find antifreeze in 
     my oil. Does anyone have advice/experience with major powerplant 
     surgery on the DMC? Am I better off with a transplant (putting in a 
     new engine entirely) or with a double bypass (attempting to 
     re-build the engine I have)? Does the B28F engine usually fail by 
     means of the head gasket or may my symptoms indicate failure of 
     cylinder liners or other gaskets/seals in the system?
     
     Symptom: At last oil change I got a cup of coolant out of the oil 
     drain before any oil started coming when the oil was being drained. 
     The oil was not emulsified like I had expected. I am also slowly 
     starting to loose coolant (for obvious reasons) although operating 
     temperature remains stable provided I don't run the level too low, 
     and the car runs great without any loss of power and without any 
     white smoke when starting (although it starts rougher when cold 
     than it used to). I add about 1 gallon of water per 2-3 weeks of 
     regular driving.
     
     Replacement engines can be obtained through KAPAC but prices are 
     fairly high. Would it be a waste to repair my current engine in 
     light of its 100,000 mileage? What is the expected life of various 
     components? Any insight/advise is appreciated.
     
                                        Knut Grimsrud
                                        DOA Chapter 41
     

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From: SUBSTEM(AT)cesmtp.ccf.org
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 11:59:46 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Caravan

We have a DeLorean caravan leaving Cleveland about 5:00
am Thursday that will be in Columbus around 7:00 and
Cincinatti about 8:00.  We should hit Louisville about 10:00
and Bowling Green or Berea for lunch (times assume leisurly
stops for breakfast, lunch, and fuel with no breakdowns).  We
will set a reasonable pace and leave about a four-hour margin
for breakdowns that still gets us to the Showboat in time for
the reception.  Anyone who wants to join the caravan along
the way please email me.

- -Mike Substelny


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From: SUBSTEM(AT)cesmtp.ccf.org
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 12:09:48 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Spark plugs

Does anyone have a good recommendation for spark plugs
for the DeLorean?

I would like to change my plugs before driving to Nashville,
and I was considering an upgrade.  There are all sorts of
high-tech plugs now (split fire, platinum, etc) that weren't
available in 1981.  Are these any better?  Should I just go
with the original Bosch plugs?

- -Mike Substelny


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From: LEDGEND2(AT)aol.com
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 12:09:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: stored DeLorean

    My DeLorean has been in the garage for a few years. When i recently 
tried
to start   it I couldn't open the drivers side door.  I got the car 
running
ok but the driver's door is still jammed.  Should i try to force the door
open?? Also the car is extremely sluggish. Around 16 seconds for 0-60.  
Could
there be something wrong with the engine or is the car always that way?   

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From: SUBSTEM(AT)cesmtp.ccf.org
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 12:10:46 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Purolator filters

Burton said: 
>I just changed my oil and filter and ran into the problem
>of the filter hitting the oil pressure sender unit. I fixed this
>problem by  moving the oil pressure sender unit . . .

I have considered the same fix myself, as it makes a host of
easy-to-get oil filters fit the car better.  That sender unit sure
is a pain in the butt for a gauge that is always maxed out
anyway!

I checked over the weekend, and PUROLATOR DOES
INDEED LIST A DELOREAN FILTER NOW.  It is number
10018.  However this filter fits no better than a filter for a
Volvo or Eagle Premier . . . the pressure sender is still in the
way!

The o-ring seal on the filter is *skimpy* compared to the
OEM filter, but the guts appear to be about the same. 
Purolator has a "filter hotline" number at 1-800-526-4250.  I
suggest that everyone call and complain that you tried their
so-called "DeLorean" oil filter and it doesn't work.  If enough
of us make noise about it maybe then they will make one
that fits!

In the mean time, I used an OEM filter from Kapac on my
DeLorean and installed that Purolator piece of #&*! on my
father's Premier.  Perhaps someday I will put the extender
nipple on my pressure sender, but I would feel better about it
if someone made a filter with a nice, meaty gasket like the
OEM filter has.

OEM WARNING: there was some *rust* on the business end
of my brand new Kapac filter, which I cleaned with naval jelly
before installation.  Since Kapac supplies some parts to ALL
DeLorean parts vendors, I suggest everyone look over their
OEM filters (which I believe is called a "Puraflux") before
installing them.

BTW the Purolator air filter is a A14275 and the fuel filter is a
F53191.  These appear to fit just fine, and any other brand
cross-referenced to them should also fit.

- -Mike Substelny


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